Is anyone else disgusted by God of War?

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#101 Dr_Corndog
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There are some people who don't understand a point, and some people who choose not to understand a point when it's made. I'd say the majority of people in this topic belong to the latter category.
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#102 Trinners
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[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

[QUOTE="cheese_it"]God of War is extremely shallow, repetitive, and pretentious. Yet, extremely popular. So yes, I am disgusted by it.cheese_it

There is soo much wrong with this I might have to write a dissertation on it.

Explain to me the depth, variety, and subtlety of the God of War franchise. Please.

Explain your argument first.

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#103 Marka1700
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They are video games, somewhere you can escape reality and im sick of the predictable hero saves the day endings that are in a lot of games.
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#104 lizzardman666
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This is why I love Kratos- He doesn't care about anyone, kills almost every person he meets and at the end everybody hates him for some reason.

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#105 PS2_ROCKS
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GTA disgusts me. I hate playing any game where I have to do things that I wouldn't do in real life.



God of War is the same way. The so called "Hero" is a totally evil jerk.

Some people would call him a typical Anti-Hero, but I'm not convinced that anything he does is good.

And yet this is one of the most talked about games on Sony's systems; Why do people like this crap? What happened to real heroes? You know, the ones you could look up to?

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#106 shawn7324
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Well I guess while everyone is enjoying God Of War III you could bake cookies or something.

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#107 SRTtoZ
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"The so called "Hero" is a totally evil jerk."

You totally just owned Kratos.

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#108 PannicAtack
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The only protagonist I've seen that I wished death upon more than Kratos was Michael Corleone.

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#109 MetroidPrimePwn
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Well I guess while everyone is enjoying God Of War III you could bake cookies or something.

shawn7324

Dude...

Don't insult baking cookies like that. Baking cookies is awesome. If I had all the flour and stuff in the world, I'd totally bake cookies instead of playing videogames. Infinite replay value.

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#110 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="shawn7324"]

Well I guess while everyone is enjoying God Of War III you could bake cookies or something.

MetroidPrimePwn

Dude...

Don't insult baking cookies like that. Baking cookies is awesome. If I had all the flour and stuff in the world, I'd totally bake cookies instead of playing videogames. Infinite replay value.

I'd rather make potato chips, personally.
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#111 ItsBriskBaby
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GTA disgusts me. I hate playing any game where I have to do things that I wouldn't do in real life.



God of War is the same way. The so called "Hero" is a totally evil jerk.

Some people would call him a typical Anti-Hero, but I'm not convinced that anything he does is good.

And yet this is one of the most talked about games on Sony's systems; Why do people like this crap? What happened to real heroes? You know, the ones you could look up to?

TheElfChild

Yeah! Hero's with no balls like PAC-MAN, with his big yellow round awsome self.....*Save me PAC-MAN!! Save me!!* LOL.

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#112 cainetao11
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LOL. GoW3 does not disgust me aand many others. Sure it has strong gore but if you been sheltered of course its going to disgust you. Anyway, the game was never about being a hero,but its about vengeance and wrath.

RadecSupreme
Well said. Being a hero is about the greater good of all, and sacrifice. Kratos is on a quest of vengance whish is admired mostly by the young but it is always a selfish pursuit, putting ones personal satisfaction before anything else, which is why it usually leads to downfall.
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#113 Sully28
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[QUOTE="glenn2709"]

[QUOTE="TheElfChild"]

GTA disgusts me. I hate playing any game where I have to do things that I wouldn't do in real life.



God of War is the same way. The so called "Hero" is a totally evil jerk.

Some people would call him a typical Anti-Hero, but I'm not convinced that anything he does is good.

And yet this is one of the most talked about games on Sony's systems; Why do people like this crap? What happened to real heroes? You know, the ones you could look up to?

TheElfChild

So what games do you play ? The Sims ?

and its God of War what do you expect ? creating rainbows in battlefield ?

Bioshock; Has a great ending if you're not a jerk. Metal Gear Solid; a respectable hero in a game that rewards you for avoiding violence. Resident Evil 5: A game with a hero written so poorly that you're laughing too much to be disgusted. Actually, in MGS4, you can't create rainbows in the battlefield, but you can create sunshine.

I love bioshock, but it has terrible endings, both are garbage. If you want to talk about cruel, your basically going through the whole game killing people who went insane, would be no different then going to a mental institute and taking everyone in there down. I am exagerating, but these are video games, in real life you wouldnt even be capable of doing 99% of the stuff kratos does because he is killing creatures, gods, and soilders from greek MYTHOLOGY, almost everything in the game is a made up enitity.Basically the only humans in the game are either the chicks that you pleasure, or the soilders that usually die before you can even reach them.

If you want to talk about disgusting games, how about postal? Its basically a murder simulator.

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#114 0rin
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I think a lot of people are mis judging Krato's character. **SPOILERS** When I think of Kratos, I think of him as a story character, not "That dude that goes around ripping evil zombie soldiers apart, and killing gods", I think of a very conflicted soldier/man, who unwittingly bit off more than he could chew, and went from trying to redeem himself and forget memories of himself slaughtering his family whilst under Aeries' control, to a broken man turned power-hungry god killer, hell bent on revenge for getting the cold shoulder by all the other gods. ***SUPER DOOPER SPOILER ALERT DO NOT READ IF YOU DID NOT PLAY GOW II***!!!! [spoiler] Including, and especially his own father, Zeus, which just adds more fuel to the fire. [/spoiler] now, I will admit that it's not the most unique story line out there, and Kratos is by no means a role model. But he wasn't designed to be that way. This is not a game for a 10 year old to play. It's an adult game that both appeals to fans of macabre, and those who like a bit of drama. It's not too much drama, but by no means is it shallow IMO. Also, I really love the way the developers have given Greek Mythology their own little "holywood" style twist. It's great! Not to mention it's pretty awesome to see other peoples renditions of all the gods, and other mythological beasts/creatures/figures. but whatever. Keep thinking of it as just a shallow blood and gore fest. Way to judge a book by its cover I guess. :/
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#115 PEELEDbanana
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umm dont play the game then. face people are evil and they like to know whats its like to be evil. the point of a game is to take you to a place and do things you couldnt do in real life. nothing beats banging a hooker in gta than running her down with the car and taking your money back, or killing gods, who doesnt want that... NO ONE THATS WHO!river_rat3117
I would totally kill a god. That would be freaking awesome!
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#116 lxlHIMlxl
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GTA disgusts me. I hate playing any game where I have to do things that I wouldn't do in real life.



God of War is the same way. The so called "Hero" is a totally evil jerk.

Some people would call him a typical Anti-Hero, but I'm not convinced that anything he does is good.

And yet this is one of the most talked about games on Sony's systems; Why do people like this crap? What happened to real heroes? You know, the ones you could look up to?

TheElfChild

The amazing gameplay and story surpasses the fact that the main character is a bit mean.

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#117 enterawesome
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ANTI-hero. Thats the whole point. Kratos isn't a hero. He's a guy who's really pissed off and wants revenge on the people who wronged him, and if you actually play the game, you see why, and actually feel bad for him. Same with GTA. Niko is actually a really sypmathetic guy, trying to make his way in a world he is not welcome in. Good stories don't have to be about good guys you know. GTA is a great series, because it's a hella' fun. And you know it. Same with GoW. As for not wanting to do things in video games you wouldn't do in real life... YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG. Video games are supposed to be an escape from reality, where you can have fun, experience an epic story, be a larger than life hero, or compete.
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#118 tylergamereview
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I think a lot of people are mis judging Krato's character. **SPOILERS** When I think of Kratos, I think of him as a story character, not "That dude that goes around ripping evil zombie soldiers apart, and killing gods", I think of a very conflicted soldier/man, who unwittingly bit off more than he could chew, and went from trying to redeem himself and forget memories of himself slaughtering his family whilst under Aeries' control, to a broken man turned power-hungry god killer, hell bent on revenge for getting the cold shoulder by all the other gods. ***SUPER DOOPER SPOILER ALERT DO NOT READ IF YOU DID NOT PLAY GOW II***!!!! [spoiler] Including, and especially his own father, Zeus, which just adds more fuel to the fire. [/spoiler] now, I will admit that it's not the most unique story line out there, and Kratos is by no means a role model. But he wasn't designed to be that way. This is not a game for a 10 year old to play. It's an adult game that both appeals to fans of macabre, and those who like a bit of drama. It's not too much drama, but by no means is it shallow IMO. Also, I really love the way the developers have given Greek Mythology their own little "holywood" style twist. It's great! Not to mention it's pretty awesome to see other peoples renditions of all the gods, and other mythological beasts/creatures/figures. but whatever. Keep thinking of it as just a shallow blood and gore fest. Way to judge a book by its cover I guess. :/0rin
Everyone whould read this (except for the spoiler and other story stuff) before playing Gow. Good job 0rin.
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#119 Rza_rectah
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Im disgusted that I have to wait to play it :P.

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#120 Espada12
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Kratos is a pretty imo guy considering he is the god of war.

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#121 Zerocrossings
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I hate playing any game where I have to do things that I wouldn't do in real life.

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#122 silky_smooth8
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I hate playing any game where I have to do things that I wouldn't do in real life.

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hahaha i dont think you know what the purpose of videogames are
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#123 StealthMonkey4
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Ignorant statement is ignorant. You must not like any Mario games, as you probably wouldn't wear overalls and jump on creatures and go through pipes in real life. :roll: Or any other games in tye world based on what you said. :I Videogames are meant to be used to escape reality not mimic it.
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#124 bearbones
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I'm not convinced that anything he does is good.

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He shagged 2 girls in a hot tub.

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#125 clone01
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[QUOTE="Zerocrossings"]

[QUOTE="TheElfChild"]

I hate playing any game where I have to do things that I wouldn't do in real life.

Wat

heh heh. i play a great sim every day called "try not to hate my job."
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#126 Cait__Sith
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so im guessing you didnt like the teletubby mod in L4DTheCoreGamer_
That mod is so epic I'm going to have to post a link so everyone can see. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-db9qgn99o
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#127 clone01
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[QUOTE="TheCoreGamer_"]so im guessing you didnt like the teletubby mod in L4DCait__Sith
That mod is so epic I'm going to have to post a link so everyone can see. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-db9qgn99o

'tis awesome. much credit to the mods.
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#128 Cicatraz_ESP
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I don't like Kratos either, but that doesn't mean the God of War franchise isn't great to play.

Also, while I did find Kratos to be completely overrated (particularly in the badass department), I wouldn't go so far as to say he was bad enough of warranting disgust. Now, Kane and Lynch were just repulsive.

Verge_6

Kratos not warranting disgust... are we talking about the same guy who killed his wife and kid and wears their ashes on his body?

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#129 muzik_mafia
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Kratos needs a chill pill

You know what would make an awesome fight? Kratos vs. Alex Mercer. The hate in that room would be colossal!

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#130 clone01
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[QUOTE="Cicatraz_ESP"]

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]

I don't like Kratos either, but that doesn't mean the God of War franchise isn't great to play.

Also, while I did find Kratos to be completely overrated (particularly in the badass department), I wouldn't go so far as to say he was bad enough of warranting disgust. Now, Kane and Lynch were just repulsive.

Kratos not warranting disgust... are we talking about the same guy who killed his wife and kid and wears their ashes on his body?

again, i think its liberties by devolopers. really, if games and game characters were like real life, they'd be incredibly boring.
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#131 Arctic_Grillz
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You should play Mini Ninjas then if you want to be a good hero.
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#133 bubbleboyii
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GTA disgusts me. I hate playing any game where I have to do things that I wouldn't do in real life.



God of War is the same way. The so called "Hero" is a totally evil jerk.

Some people would call him a typical Anti-Hero, but I'm not convinced that anything he does is good.

And yet this is one of the most talked about games on Sony's systems; Why do people like this crap? What happened to real heroes? You know, the ones you could look up to?

TheElfChild

Some games need to be played knowing that it's just going to be over-the-top. God of War is one of those games. It's based on freaking mythology, so you're bound to see some weird stuff. Plus, creative liberties aside, I think the developers set the right mood for the game.

Games now take a darker tone because of the stride toward realism. No one's perfect, and you're likely to see more and more choices in games that are in the gray of the moral spectrum. As for your so called "real heroes", there's still plenty of them. Master Chief, Ratchet and Clank, Link just to name a few.

Good games sell. God of War has solid gameplay and an interesting story to boot. That's reason enough, no?

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#134 cheese_it
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[QUOTE="cheese_it"][QUOTE="Zaibach"]

[QUOTE="cheese_it"]God of War is extremely shallow, repetitive, and pretentious. Yet, extremely popular. So yes, I am disgusted by it.Trinners

There is soo much wrong with this I might have to write a dissertation on it.

Explain to me the depth, variety, and subtlety of the God of War franchise. Please.

Explain your argument first.



  • The gameplay is primarily button-mashing combat spliced with quick time events and a few simple puzzles. There is little planning or reacting involved--you get away from the attack ranges of your foes and press Square as quickly as possible. It's not the shallowest gameplay I've experienced, but it's no Ninja Gaiden.
  • Bare-bones upgrades.
  • Only a handful of weapons and sub weapons.
  • Way too few attack combos and abilities (as indicated by the last 3 bullets, this game simply lacks depth and variety).
  • Complete seriousness at all times, resulting in unintentional humor and a tedious, nonstop "I will destroy you!" overtone.
  • Kratos has no depth as a character whatsoever. He was forced to kill his own family and has become an organic version of The Terminator. Every other character is essentially a hollow archetype.
  • Way too easy, even on the Titan difficulty.
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#135 krunkfu2
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I hate playing any game where I have to do things that I wouldn't do in real life.TheElfChild
go back to cooking mama you don't deserve to play god of war
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#136 Bubble_Man
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I agree to the extent that Kratos is a real dickhead. I've hated his character ever since he rescued the ship captain from falling down the hydra's throat just to take his key and intentionally throw him backdown into it.

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#137 PannicAtack
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Well, I don't think it's fair to complain about Kratos being less than a role model - the designers intended it that way.

But it needs to be said that if Kratos he was a Dungeons and Dragons character, he'd be Chaotic Evil. He barely even qualifies as "anti-hero" - he's practically a villain protagonist.

I would describe him as such: A whiny psychopath.

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#138 cheese_it
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I agree to the extent that Kratos is a real dickhead. I've hated his character ever since he rescued the ship captain from falling down the hydra's throat just to take his key and intentionally throw him backdown into it.

Bubble_Man
Not to mention spitting in Athena's face after she made him into a god, which was the direct cause of Kratos' downfall.
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#139 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="Bubble_Man"]

I agree to the extent that Kratos is a real dickhead. I've hated his character ever since he rescued the ship captain from falling down the hydra's throat just to take his key and intentionally throw him backdown into it.

cheese_it
Not to mention spitting in Athena's face after she made him into a god, which was the direct cause of Kratos' downfall.

And sending an army rampaging throughout Greece for no apparent reason. Multiple times. And gutting random people in the middle of Athens square. And killing the inhabitants of Hades. And killing his own family. And torching a defenseless soldier. And zapping another defenseless soldier. What else am I missing?
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#140 cheese_it
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[QUOTE="cheese_it"][QUOTE="Bubble_Man"]

I agree to the extent that Kratos is a real dickhead. I've hated his character ever since he rescued the ship captain from falling down the hydra's throat just to take his key and intentionally throw him backdown into it.

PannicAtack
Not to mention spitting in Athena's face after she made him into a god, which was the direct cause of Kratos' downfall.

And sending an army rampaging throughout Greece for no apparent reason. Multiple times. And gutting random people in the middle of Athens square. And killing the inhabitants of Hades. And killing his own family. And torching a defenseless soldier. And zapping another defenseless soldier. What else am I missing?

I don't think killing his family counts, but telling Zeus that he was going to slaughter him while Zeus was killing him was a big facepalm.
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#141 HumanoMexicano
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In all honestly no matter how good or bad A VIDEOGAME char is it is not a hero. I lol at All Time Greatest Hero...I lol hard. But then again who is looking for a videogame hero anyway? (some guy said it before me and it should have ended there!)

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#142 cheese_it
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In all honestly no matter how good or bad A VIDEOGAME char is it is not a hero. I lol at All Time Greatest Hero...I lol hard. But then again who is looking for a videogame hero anyway? (some guy said it before me and it should have ended there!)

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Fictional hero, lolboy.
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#143 HumanoMexicano
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Fictional Hero= Twilight sh@t.

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#144 cheese_it
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Fictional Hero= Twilight sh@t.

HumanoMexicano
Fictional heroes don't have the same status as genuine heroes. One can declare heroics in fiction without warmth.
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#145 HumanoMexicano
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[QUOTE="HumanoMexicano"]

Fictional Hero= Twilight sh@t.

cheese_it

Fictional heroes don't have the same status as genuine heroes. One can declare heroics in fiction without warmth.

You clearly haven't read these forums where these people fap over their fictional heroes/consoles WITH much warmth. Very sad.

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#146 cheese_it
Member since 2009 • 235 Posts

[QUOTE="cheese_it"][QUOTE="HumanoMexicano"]

Fictional Hero= Twilight sh@t.

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Fictional heroes don't have the same status as genuine heroes. One can declare heroics in fiction without warmth.

You clearly haven't read these forums where these people fap over their fictional heroes/consoles WITH much warmth. Very sad.

Your original argument was that there is no such thing as fictional heroism. The fact is that yes, heroism exists in fiction; yes, the sun is bright; and no, delusional fans do not change that.
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#147 HumanoMexicano
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[QUOTE="HumanoMexicano"]

[QUOTE="cheese_it"] Fictional heroes don't have the same status as genuine heroes. One can declare heroics in fiction without warmth. cheese_it

You clearly haven't read these forums where these people fap over their fictional heroes/consoles WITH much warmth. Very sad.

Your original argument was that there is no such thing as fictional heroism. The fact is that yes, heroism exists in fiction; yes, the sun is bright; and no, delusional fans do not change that.

1) Their is, but it doesn't mean jack.

2) No sh...

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#148 ethanradd
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I also really dislike kratos, ...to the point where I side with the other gods ...I dont know maybe Zeus might kill him in the end, hopefully, ...not certain though, coz, u know ...its Zeus, he can get a bit sloppy ....but if it was Kratos vs Odin! ....kratos would get owned so badly!

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Sorry if I went off topic, I tend to take fictional characters too seriously,

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#149 HumanoMexicano
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I also really dislike kratos, ...to the point where I side with the other gods ...I dont know maybe Zeus might kill him in the end, hopefully, ...not certain though, coz, u know ...its Zeus, he can get a bit sloppy ....but if it was Kratos vs Odin! ....kratos would get owned so badly!

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Sorry if I went off topic, I tend to take fictional characters too seriously,

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Ragnarok. He got owned for all eternity. Man all gods are lame in the final days eh? ??? Washu/Odin/Zeus/Jesus everytime the final battle becomes more anti-lulz.

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#150 silentkill62696
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TC, you seem to be forgetting something. You're interpreting the character with the personality of a normal person. Kratos, is the GOD OF WAR. It is therefore implied and shown why this title was bestowed upon him after killing the previous GOW aka Ares. Knowing this, i thought it was very ingenious of the developers to stick to this personality instead of making him more "humanistic" as you may call it. Kratos is the personfication of hate, anger, and violence,all that is WAR. Now imagine if they portrayed the GOD OF WAR with a more normal attitude. Can you really call that person the personification of war? I don't think so.