Is battlefield 3 really going to use the power of the PC like Dice says?

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#1 GD1551
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1LSRDTJryo

Judging from this video that doesn't seem to be the case. Dice has said the PC is lead platform in this game but after seeing this comparison the PS3 version looks too close for that to be true. Or am I mistaken here?

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#2 ChubbyGuy40
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1. Very small and compressed YouTube video.

2. There are a lot of differences, mainly textures, lighting, particle effects, and character models.

3. Why wouldn't it? You should look at the newer footage and leaked footage.

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#3 deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab
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When in doubt use a heavily compressed video of two heavily compressed videos side by side in small squares as your basis :? But even in that you can still see the huge difference in lighting, textures, shadowing, etc.
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#4 dream431ca
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Dude, go look at the leaked footage on Youtube of BF3 multiplayer. Most are in 720p or 1080p.

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#5 GD1551
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I don't have doubts it looks better than the console version, what I am wondering is if it it's taking advantage of the power of the PC, because the differences aren't anything huge so I am skeptical about that.

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#6 ChubbyGuy40
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I don't have doubts it looks better than the console version, what I am wondering is if it it's taking advantage of the power of the PC, because the differences aren't anything huge so I am skeptical about that.

GD1551

You can't tell by a such a small and compressed video.

Wait until the multiplayer betas come out.

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#7 HaloinventedFPS
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its Alpha

and no, BF3 will not use the power of the PC since its a console port

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#8 lulmont
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Well I read somewhere, all the multiplayer leaked videos are all Med-Low settings being Alpha stage and not even beta it makes sense. BFBC2 open beta only let you run it on Med

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I don't have doubts it looks better than the console version, what I am wondering is if it it's taking advantage of the power of the PC, because the differences aren't anything huge so I am skeptical about that.

GD1551

Try looking past the fact that you are judging off of a low quality video that puts each version in tiny squares the PC version runs in 1080p, not compressed 480p, and take a second to look. You will see that the PC has alot better lighting, alot better shadowing, alot better textures, etc. And then there is the PC has larger maps with over twice the player size, and the footage shown hasn't had dx11 tessellation enabled.

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#10 dream431ca
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its Alpha

and no, BF3 will not use the power of the PC since its a console port

HaloinventedFPS

The lead platform for BF3 is PC so it will use all the power you can muster.

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#11 xOMGITSJASONx
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I can't say until i buy a copy for my PC and PS3 to compare.

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#12 lawlessx
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its Alpha

and no, BF3 will not use the power of the PC since its a console port

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BF3's lead platform is the PC...so it's not a port.
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#13 Grovilis
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its Alpha

and no, BF3 will not use the power of the PC since its a console port

HaloinventedFPS

And where do you get this idea from?

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#14 sailor232
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Even in this video the console version has things missing. The building in the background (parking lot??) is different, there are more trees lining the road on the pc version, more smoke and particles in the air. Wait till it releases, on a full screen 1080p it will blow your mind.

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When maxed out it will...something we haven't seen yet.

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#16 GD1551
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[QUOTE="GD1551"]

I don't have doubts it looks better than the console version, what I am wondering is if it it's taking advantage of the power of the PC, because the differences aren't anything huge so I am skeptical about that.

ferret-gamer

Try looking past the fact that you are judging off of a low quality video that puts each version in tiny squares the PC version runs in 1080p, not compressed 480p, and take a second to look. You will see that the PC has alot better lighting, alot better shadowing, alot better textures, etc. And then there is the PC has larger maps with over twice the player size, and the footage shown hasn't had dx11 tessellation enabled.

I've seen the vids at 720p and they still don't have that great of a difference but you do hav ea point with teseellation not being enabled as yet.

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#17 wis3boi
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It's already pushing it and it's still not finished. PC version doesnt even support DX9, which the consoles run on. Nobody using WinXP will be able to install it, and you need a DX10/11 GPU to run it.

Looks great to me.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1LSRDTJryo

Judging from this video that doesn't seem to be the case. Dice has said the PC is lead platform in this game but after seeing this comparison the PS3 version looks too close for that to be true. Or am I mistaken here?

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Hell No.
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#19 JigglyWiggly_
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Who cares about bf3, it has a bigger problem. You wear shortsleeves omg no
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#20 GotNugz
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For all of the hoopla about bf3 graphics it is not pushing the limit in the same way crysis did when it released. Only pc exclusive game can bring a gtx 590 to it's knees, no matter what devs say about pc being the lead platform they will always have to consider limitations of the consoles. Look for pc exclusive games or wait until the next gen starts only then will you see a real technical leap.
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#21 Iantheone
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From what Ive seen of the leaked gameplay, it shouldnt be too much more intensive than BC2. This is a good thing, not a bad thing.
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#22 deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab
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From what Ive seen of the leaked gameplay, it shouldnt be too much more intensive than BC2. This is a good thing, not a bad thing. Iantheone
Well the leaked footage of the alpha is locked at low/medium.
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[QUOTE="Iantheone"]From what Ive seen of the leaked gameplay, it shouldnt be too much more intensive than BC2. This is a good thing, not a bad thing. ferret-gamer
Well the leaked footage of the alpha is locked at low/medium.

Actually the textures are lower than the release will be and the destruction is toned down quite a bit.

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#24 Iantheone
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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="Iantheone"]From what Ive seen of the leaked gameplay, it shouldnt be too much more intensive than BC2. This is a good thing, not a bad thing. Wasdie

Well the leaked footage of the alpha is locked at low/medium.

Actually the textures are lower than the release will be and the destruction is toned down quite a bit.

Looked good enough to me tbh. Nice to see that the destruction was toned down a bit.
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When in doubt use a heavily compressed video of two heavily compressed videos side by side in small squares as your basis :? But even in that you can still see the huge difference in lighting, textures, shadowing, etc. ferret-gamer

This. I know when I saw the PS3 version running I immediately noticed the difference, especially in framerate.

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#26 The_Pacific
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Its alpha dude :?
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#27 deactivated-5c79c3cfce222
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Well, for one I don't think the PS3 version is going to have textures like this.

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#28 LustForSoul
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I don't think you can compare anything on a youtube video.
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#29 2scoopsofempty
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the alpha trial is running in DX9. And it still looks impressive. People need to research more before they post.
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the alpha trial is running in DX9. And it still looks impressive. People need to research more before they post.2scoopsofempty

Are you sure it's not DX10? I could swear on the PC that they have completely ditched the DX9 renderer.

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#31 lundy86_4
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Yes.

Wait until we get something better than an awful comparison video which is compressed to Hell and back.

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#32 -The-G-Man-
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no. having over twice the player count as the console versions is just for show.

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[QUOTE="2scoopsofempty"]the alpha trial is running in DX9. And it still looks impressive. People need to research more before they post.Wasdie

Are you sure it's not DX10? I could swear on the PC that they have completely ditched the DX9 renderer.

I'm just going by what the testers are saying on youtube. 2 different uploaders have said dx9. Search FRANKIEonPCin1080p and yourgamingteam for the best alpha footage.
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#34 Bruin1986
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It'll look fine, chill. The videos released on Youtube already show that it's a very good looking game even though it's on the evil consoleZ0Rz as well. Just enjoy the game...

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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="2scoopsofempty"]the alpha trial is running in DX9. And it still looks impressive. People need to research more before they post.2scoopsofempty

Are you sure it's not DX10? I could swear on the PC that they have completely ditched the DX9 renderer.

I'm just going by what the testers are saying on youtube. 2 different uploaders have said dx9. Search FRANKIEonPCin1080p and yourgamingteam for the best alpha footage.

Its doesn't support dx9 at all though :(

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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="2scoopsofempty"]the alpha trial is running in DX9. And it still looks impressive. People need to research more before they post.2scoopsofempty

Are you sure it's not DX10? I could swear on the PC that they have completely ditched the DX9 renderer.

I'm just going by what the testers are saying on youtube. 2 different uploaders have said dx9. Search FRANKIEonPCin1080p and yourgamingteam for the best alpha footage.

If they aren't supporting DX9 at all, it's doubtful there is a DX9 version. I'm sure it's just a DX10 version.

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#38 gamecubepad
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So I didn't look to see, so what side is PC and what side is console?:lol:

Small res vids have that impact.

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#39 2scoopsofempty
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Lol well I'm eating my words then. Weird how 2 different uploaders iv been following have both pointed out dx9. Doesn't really matter though. The pc footage is just mind blowing some times. But the sound is the most incredible part for me.
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#40 Heil68
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I really dont care at this point. I just want the game to come out already. Been too long since BF2.
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#41 mitu123
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="2scoopsofempty"]the alpha trial is running in DX9. And it still looks impressive. People need to research more before they post.2scoopsofempty

Are you sure it's not DX10? I could swear on the PC that they have completely ditched the DX9 renderer.

I'm just going by what the testers are saying on youtube. 2 different uploaders have said dx9. Search FRANKIEonPCin1080p and yourgamingteam for the best alpha footage.

I would like a screencap of it saying DX9 with MSI Afterburner, because DICE said it's not supported.
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#42 2scoopsofempty
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You would have to listen to the people in the vids. For example, someone would point how how good the lighting looks and say how its only in dx9 and so on. It could be that they meant to say dx10. Who knows.

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#43 mitu123
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You would have to listen to the people in the vids. For example, someone would point how how good the lighting looks and say how its only in dx9 and so on. It could be that they meant to say dx10. Who knows.

2scoopsofempty

I'm guess Alpha is just DX9 on low/medium with no maxing out options while the full game has no DX9.

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#45 Lost-Memory
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1LSRDTJryo

Judging from this video that doesn't seem to be the case. Dice has said the PC is lead platform in this game but after seeing this comparison the PS3 version looks too close for that to be true. Or am I mistaken here?

GD1551
Can you PLEASE wait for the game to come out before asking this ? Like come ON! Internet videos are like pictures, they don't tell the whole story. Just a piece of it.
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#46 ChupacabraIII
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Considering the game is in ALPHA and is running on LOW settings, I think we can safely say that BF3 will definitely require a good investment (to max/1080p Full AA etc)

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#47 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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Can I get a HELL YES

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#48 NoodleFighter
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I'm tired of people looking at that horrible ps3 vs pc comparison.

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#49 BillCosby3D
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1LSRDTJryo

Judging from this video that doesn't seem to be the case. Dice has said the PC is lead platform in this game but after seeing this comparison the PS3 version looks too close for that to be true. Or am I mistaken here?

GD1551

You will NEVER see the difference in comparisson videos on YouTube, you have to experience it for yourself. I never really saw the difference in PC to console, but after I bought my PC, everything is quickly visible, higher FPS, better textures...

And as for battlefield 3 really using the power of PC's, the fact that it has 64 player multiplayer while console can only render up to 24, it a big indication. I'd say 60 - 70% of AAA games, always use "the power of the PC", but they're more subtle things like higher Frames Per Second or that they never lag in areas that console's would.