Is Bluray like the new 8-Track?

Really seems to me like it's turning out to be like that. Other than PS3 games I don't know a single person who buys Bluray movies over DvDs. It's really just doesn't seem to be worth the price difference for such a slight better quality. Even in the stores it seems like Bluray movies are overstocked. If a new release DvD is sold out I head over to the Bluray section and it's always there.

It really reminds me a lot of what happened to 8-Tracks. While Albums (DvDs) had a long run, when 8-Tracks (Bluray) hit the scene it really didn't go over well because the quality wasn't that big of an improvement from Albums. Then when cassettes (Future Format that hasn't been released yet) came out shortly after, 8-Tracks were just forgotten in the past.

I really think it's heading that way, to be honest.

 

Although hopefully the future format will allow for Backward Compatibility with BDs, which is more than can be said about 8-tracks.

Really seems to me like it's turning out to be like that. Other than PS3 games I don't know a single person who buys Bluray movies over DvDs. It's really just doesn't seem to be worth the price difference for such a slight better quality. Even in the stores it seems like Bluray movies are overstocked. If a new release DvD is sold out I head over to the Bluray section and it's always there.

It really reminds me a lot of what happened to 8-Tracks. While Albums (DvDs) had a long run, when 8-Tracks (Bluray) hit the scene it really didn't go over well because the quality wasn't that big of an improvement from Albums. Then when cassettes (Future Format that hasn't been released yet) came out shortly after, 8-Tracks were just forgotten in the past.

 

LittleHands134

I buy all my Movies on Blu-Ray and if you really cant see a difference you need to get your eyes checked 

Oh and in the best buy near my house (In San Fran) if theres a new release on Blu-Ray its hard to find but the DVD versions are thrown everywhere

Actually the diffrence in quailty is outstanding, if you cant see that you must have bad vision or just denial...

And dont worry, more and more people are taking on HD TVs so id be surprsied if it dies... 

So this is just all based on opinion? Blog it.

The slightly better quality is nice but the letter boxed can be more annoying then what the benefits offer. Plus the PS3 is awesome at upconverting the DVDs. If a BluRay movie is letter boxed I will just get the DVD version because it still looks killer upconverted to HD with no letterboxing.demoralizer

Full screen movies are so full of fail. Widescreen is the way that the movie was intended to be viewed, and watching anything other than that is sub-par.

The only exception are movies that were filmed in full screen, but those are rare.

It will if retailers don't wake up. Having said that I have over 100 movies on Blu-Ray and feel I'm getting great product for my money...out of the ones I won though I've only bought like 4 of them in Bricks and mortar stores...I save up a list of titles I want and buy them in bunches from Amazon as I find there pricing (while still higher than DVD) to still be at least fair...20-24 bones is alright and I have always tried to take advantage of their BOGO or buyy 2 and get one free promotiions bringing my average cost down. I'm in Canada though and if Future Shop/Best Buy or HMV think I'm gonna drop 32 bucks on a movie well maybe these stupid business practices will cause it to fail.

another person who hasn't properly expierienced bluray...

Really seems to me like it's turning out to be like that. Other than PS3 games I don't know a single person who buys Bluray movies over DvDs. It's really just doesn't seem to be worth the price difference for such a slight better quality. Even in the stores it seems like Bluray movies are overstocked. If a new release DvD is sold out I head over to the Bluray section and it's always there.

It really reminds me a lot of what happened to 8-Tracks. While Albums (DvDs) had a long run, when 8-Tracks (Bluray) hit the scene it really didn't go over well because the quality wasn't that big of an improvement from Albums. Then when cassettes (Future Format that hasn't been released yet) came out shortly after, 8-Tracks were just forgotten in the past.

LittleHands134

Here's my answer from my other thread about why Bluray is in it for the long run.

It's got nothing to do with systems and gaming, or even readily available technology. It's simple business.

It's all about revitalizing film IPs. Film studios need a new form of direct to home distribution every decade or so, so that they can make money off of their old film catalogues. VHS lasted over a decade, DVD lasted over a decade, Bluray will last over a decade, and Holographics Video Disks will last over a decade. No new format will be adopted prior to the 10-15 ip rehash.

Films retain a maximum celluloid resolution of 4k digital. This gives studios 40+ years to repeatebly resell there entire film catalogue over and over again. Also giving TV manufacturers 40+ years to make new TV sets with higher resolutions.

The time line moves something like this.

10 - 15 year 240p VHS --10 - 15 years 480p DVD -- 10-15 1080p Bluray --10 -15 years 2k Holodisk--10-15 years 4k masterdisk

Sony owns a big stake in Hollywood and film, more so than they do in gaming. It is in Sony and everybody elses best interest to maintain one format for as long as possible before moving on to the next phase. Although 300gb holodisks are already available they will not go into mainstream consumer circulation until BluRay has been squeezed to the last penny. That's why Sony invested so much money fighting the HD wars, to win 10-15 years of tech licensing on BluRay.

At the end it has nothing to do with technology, but rather business.

Edited on Nov 16, 2008 9:55 am PT

Actually the diffrence in quailty is outstanding, if you cant see that you must have bad vision or just denial...

And dont worry, more and more people are taking on HD TVs so id be surprsied if it dies... 

RingX5

I see a bit of a difference, but if you really think about it. A lot of people still don't have an HD TV and even if they did, what reason do they have to buy a Bluray player and replace their library of DvDs that they already had? I think both DvDs and Bluray are going to be killed by digital downloading, seems like we're already getting to that point with movies and games.

[QUOTE="demoralizer"]The slightly better quality is nice but the letter boxed can be more annoying then what the benefits offer. Plus the PS3 is awesome at upconverting the DVDs. If a BluRay movie is letter boxed I will just get the DVD version because it still looks killer upconverted to HD with no letterboxing.SpruceCaboose

Full screen movies are so full of fail. Widescreen is the way that the movie was intended to be viewed, and watching anything other than that is sub-par.

The only exception are movies that were filmed in full screen, but those are rare.

I wasn't talking about non 16:9 you can get widescreen HD with no letter boxing and it still looks amazing. Comast HD for example is letter box free and looks great. Sup-par is a stretch.

[QUOTE="RingX5"]

Actually the diffrence in quailty is outstanding, if you cant see that you must have bad vision or just denial...

And dont worry, more and more people are taking on HD TVs so id be surprsied if it dies...

LittleHands134

I see a bit of a difference, but if you really think about it. A lot of people still don't have an HD TV and even if they did, what reason do they have to buy a Bluray player and replace their library of DvDs that they already had? I think both DvDs and Bluray are going to be killed by digital downloading, seems like we're already getting to that point with movies and games.

Digital HD content distribution is a pipe dream, for the next generation, not possible in our time. Bandwith is too expensive and no internet provider is willing to upgrade everyone to T1 for free,

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="demoralizer"]The slightly better quality is nice but the letter boxed can be more annoying then what the benefits offer. Plus the PS3 is awesome at upconverting the DVDs. If a BluRay movie is letter boxed I will just get the DVD version because it still looks killer upconverted to HD with no letterboxing.demoralizer

Full screen movies are so full of fail. Widescreen is the way that the movie was intended to be viewed, and watching anything other than that is sub-par.

The only exception are movies that were filmed in full screen, but those are rare.

I wasn't talking about non 16:9 you can get widescreen HD with no letter boxing and it still looks amazing. Comast HD for example is letter box free and looks great. Sup-par is a stretch.

Almost no movies are filmed in 16:9. Film buffs like myself would be irritated if companies started opening the mattes on 2.35 to 1 films so that they would "fill" a 16:9 TV screen.

Those are not how the movie was intended to be watched. You can always set the TV to fill your screen, should you choose to, but making all Blu-Rays 16:9 would be a terrible thing, IMO.

[QUOTE="RingX5"]

Actually the diffrence in quailty is outstanding, if you cant see that you must have bad vision or just denial...

And dont worry, more and more people are taking on HD TVs so id be surprsied if it dies... 

LittleHands134

I see a bit of a difference, but if you really think about it. A lot of people still don't have an HD TV and even if they did, what reason do they have to buy a Bluray player and replace their library of DvDs that they already had? I think both DvDs and Bluray are going to be killed by digital downloading, seems like we're already getting to that point with movies and games.

Digital does not have the same quality, and you don't need to replace your DVDs. They play just fine on a Blu-Ray player.

[QUOTE="demoralizer"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

Full screen movies are so full of fail. Widescreen is the way that the movie was intended to be viewed, and watching anything other than that is sub-par.

The only exception are movies that were filmed in full screen, but those are rare.

SpruceCaboose

I wasn't talking about non 16:9 you can get widescreen HD with no letter boxing and it still looks amazing. Comast HD for example is letter box free and looks great. Sup-par is a stretch.

Almost no movies are filmed in 16:9. Film buffs like myself would be irritated if companies started opening the mattes on 2.35 to 1 films so that they would "fill" a 16:9 TV screen.

Those are not how the movie was intended to be watched. You can always set the TV to fill your screen, should you choose to, but making all Blu-Rays 16:9 would be a terrible thing, IMO.

Most movies are actually filmed in 16:9 or 1.85:1, only selected films shot on Panavision are native 2:35:1. pimperjones

1.85:1 is not 16:9 either. that is 1.78:1, and there is a difference.