Is Crackdown over-rated? (POLL)

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#1 king_bobo
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Now, don't get me wrong, I thought Crackdown was a fairly decent game, and I still play it occassionally from time to time, but I help feeling that it's just not the AAA material that people seem to make it out to be. There are several issues that really bring the game's decency down significantly for me (a lot of which are included in Gamespot's review), the main ones being:

  • Not especially appealing graphics - I don't like this quasi-cell-shaded appearence games appear to try and get away with these days (e.g. Champions Online) - it should either be cell-shaded or not cell-shaded. Check out Jet Set Radio Future for how cell-shading should be done. I think that Borderlands does it right too, though (and that's not full cell-shading).
  • Auto-aim - I resent auto-aim in games, especially when it allows you to lock onto people's heads so easily. The auto-aim was one of the reasons Just Cause recieved mediocre reviews, and I think its unjust that Crackdown isn't brought down because of it. What's more stupid is that even if you headshot someone without using the auto-aim, it doesn't actually count as a headshot.
  • Repetitive mission structure - this, for me, is one Crackdown's greatest problems. There's only one type of story mission, and it isn't even original or especially fun. What's more is that the elimination of the enemies doesn't even vary - they're never in vehicles or anything (from what I remember). Every mission just involves fighting trhough mindless drones and killing a boss.
  • Lame, if not non-existent story - one of the greatest things about popular open-world games is their story, and Crackdown (even with its twist at the end) doesn't have a decent story. There is practically no story whatsoever. Understandably, the reason the story doesn't progress is because enemies can be eliminated in any order, but they still could have put more effort in.
  • Only two types of side-mission - in many ways, Crackdown is similar to Assassin's Creed (which is condemned for being repetitive) and yet it is not frowned upon for the reasons that Assassin's Creed is. Granted, they do have their differences, but Crackdown, to a greater extent than Assassin's Creed has very few side mission types - namely two, both of which are races.

There are a few other issues that I have with the game, but they are too petty and could easily be counter-argued due to the fact that they are predominantly based upon opinion.

The reason I bring it up now, is because so many people (including critics) compare it tremendously to inFAMOUS, acting as if Crackdown raised teh bar significantly for open-world games, and inFAMOUS merely copied it. I don't this does inFAMOUS justice, as anyone who has played them both through would know that they are incredibly different in so many ways.

Basically, my question to you is, do you think Crackdown deserves the status it is given by gamers, or is it over-rated? Please, give your opinions, but don't insult me - I am merely asking you a question and giving my own view-point.

Also for those of you who own a Playstation 3 and Xbox 360, which do you prefer, Crackdown or inFAMOUS?

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#2 johnnyblazed88
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i had alot of fun with it solid 8/10 for me

cant wait for 2

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#3 Animal-Mother
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No..............Sillly pants

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#4 Rob-Belmont
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It's definitley not AAA, low AA at best.

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#5 BioShockOwnz
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Nope, it's underrated. 8.0-8.5. Which do I like better out of inFAMOUS or Crackdown? I like both. They both have pros and cons.

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#6 sikanderahmed
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no its underrated, its just too fun

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#7 king_bobo
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Sillly pants

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That's insulting :P I'm calling the mods :lol:
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#8 johnnyblazed88
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is B a 6 and C a 5? lol

aww man this game is gonna getslaghtered by the PS3 fanboys lol

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#9 angelkimne
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No way, it's extremely underrated imo. I've had more fun with it than most other highly-rated games this gen. Hell, I'd probably take it over GTA 4.
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#10 king_bobo
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is B a 6 and C a 5? johnnyblazed88

Yes - B is 6.0 - 6.9, C is 5.0 to 5.9 - I didn't make it up :P

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#11 shutdown_202
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Its underrated here on GS in that it should have scored AA but its overated in terms of how lemmings talk about it/ hype it (made out to be an AAA game). I know that doesnt make much sense but thats how i see it.

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#12 Wootball
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I loved Crackdown - I admit I only bought it for the Halo 3 beta invite, but I played it and was extremely impressed. I wasn't hyped for it and it completely surprised me. Up to now I have only played the demo of Infamous, and didn't enjoy it at all. I'm going to rent Infamous since people seem to be enjoying it a lot - so I'm going to give it a fair trial. Crackdown may have been repetitive, but then again so are a lot of games. It had a stunning multiplayer open world mode, a collectathon element that was actually enjoyable, decent graphics, and was basically a lot of fun to play.
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#13 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

Sillly pants

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That's insulting :P I'm calling the mods :lol:

I'll call them all silly sally's you wait and you, your just bringing an impending doom on them.!!!! :lol:
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#14 king_bobo
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Its underrated here on GS in that it should have scored AA but its overated in terms of how lemmings talk about it/ hype it (made out to be an AAA game). I know that doesnt make much sense but thats how i see it.

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I totally understand what you're saying. My point was that lemmings were acting like it was AAA, and I respect your opinion about it being AA. I completely understand. I think...
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#15 king_bobo
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[QUOTE="Wootball"]I loved Crackdown - I admit I only bought it for the Halo 3 beta invite, but I played it and was extremely impressed. I wasn't hyped for it and it completely surprised me. Up to now I have only played the demo of Infamous, and didn't enjoy it at all. I'm going to rent Infamous since people seem to be enjoying it a lot - so I'm going to give it a fair trial. Crackdown may have been repetitive, but then again so are a lot of games. It had a stunning multiplayer open world mode, a collectathon element that was actually enjoyable, decent graphics, and was basically a lot of fun to play.

I have to admit I didn't like the inFAMOUS demo at all, and yet I really enjoyed the full game. I think the story progression has a lot to do with what makes it enjoyable. If you like collectathons, you should enjoy inFAMOUS - I think there's 350 to collect :D
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*350 shards that is, which help add to your health bar.
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MASSIVELY under rated. Seriously you compared it to AC? You're right. In a way it is like AC, the missions are repetitive.

However. Theres a lot of co-op based stuff in there and extra things to do with the DLC included. But even with that removed crackdown does what AC/GTAIV and stuff fail at: Being crazy over the top fun.

Leaping buildings, throwing cars, harpooning a guy in the head to a wall, kicking people across the street, throwing them off buildings, driving insane cars, one of which can drive up walls.

It's one of if not the best sandbox game this gen. The fact AC outscored it is a crime, all that game had going for it was the story once that was done all you had was a collectathon and not even an interesting one..freaking flags.

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#18 king_bobo
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Seriously you compared it to AC? CreepyBacon
Yes - both focus on assassination, both involve a lot of vertical traversing of open-world cities and both have repetitive missions. Like I said before, they do have their differences, but I was just making a comparison. It's like when I mentioned Just Cause about the auto-aiming...
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#19 Floppy_Jim
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It deserves at least AA. Maybe AAA, that's how damn good it is.
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#20 emorainbo
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MASSIVELY under rated. Seriously you compared it to AC? You're right. In a way it is like AC, the missions are repetitive.

However. Theres a lot of co-op based stuff in there and extra things to do with the DLC included. But even with that removed crackdown does what AC/GTAIV and stuff fail at: Being crazy over the top fun.

Leaping buildings, throwing cars, harpooning a guy in the head to a wall, kicking people across the street, throwing them off buildings, driving insane cars, one of which can drive up walls.

It's one of if not the best sandbox game this gen. The fact AC outscored it is a crime, all that game had going for it was the story once that was done all you had was a collectathon and not even an interesting one..freaking flags.

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#21 CreepyBacon
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[QUOTE="CreepyBacon"]Seriously you compared it to AC? king_bobo
Yes - both focus on assassination, both involve a lot of vertical traversing of open-world cities and both have repetitive missions. Like I said before, they do have their differences, but I was just making a comparison. It's like when I mentioned Just Cause about the auto-aiming...

Yeah i got what you meant. I wasn't clear sorry.

I'll admit the original is AA quality on it's own. But once you get the DLC it pushes it up to AAA easily. Allowing you to spawn items in the world at will all the extra mini games and support for co-op the extra races, cars, weapons. One of my fav games this gen.

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#22 BigDaddyPOLO
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It certainly didn't deserve a score as low as 7.8... 8.5 at least for me.

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[QUOTE="angelkimne"]No way, it's extremely underrated imo. I've had more fun with it than most other highly-rated games this gen. Hell, I'd probably take it over GTA 4.

Ditto here. I'm actually currently playing it (though you can't see it on my GT since my 360 is temporarily offline)
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#24 gamecubepad
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Crackdown is easily one of the most under-rated games this gen.

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#25 beyondDstation
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A high A.

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#26 foxhound_fox
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I played the demo waaay back, well before I even got my 360 and loved it. Then I got my 360 and meant to get it right off the bat (but went with Kameo instead, didn't regret it though, Kameo is awesome)... and never got around to getting it because other games always interested me more. I saw it go as cheap as $10 at EB throughout the time I've had my 360 and have no idea why I didn't get it.

Its gone way up in price now and I can't find any copies at used game stores for under $25 (and obviously, none new). So I *just* bought it on eBay. $14.99 CAD with $7.68 in shipping/insurance/taxes. So about $21 total is about as cheap as I can get it. I put it off for too long and am now regretting it. But that means I have to finish Dead Space faster now.

From what I played of the demo, if that carries through to the rest of the game, it is probably 8.5-9.0. A very unique game that I haven't really seen anywhere else.

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#27 deactivated-58b6232955e4a
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8.5 is about right for me, it was fun.
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#28 shadow_hosi
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AA-AAA very good game i would give it an 8.9
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#29 HarlockJC
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I disliked the game..IMO it one of the worse games I have played this gen 1. I don't like the start where you pick which mission you want to do 2. The story was poorly written 3. I kept getting lost 4. The car was hard to control. 5. This really upset me the most. You would be in game then come up to something which said if you bought the DLC there would be this here. I don't mind DLC but it should not be hindering the game.
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#30 gago-gago
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Still one of the most fun superhero sandbox games this gen.

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#31 GTSaiyanjin2
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Its a AAA game... for me at least

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#32 Ragashahs
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and solid 8.0 in my books very fun but it did have quite a few faults that keep it from AAA status but i have to agree that it is overrated in a sense because infamous and prototype are always being compared to crackdown as if they have to live up to crackdown standards

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7.5 single player, 8.5 Coop
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#34 Puckhog04
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Far from overrated. In fact I'd say it's underrated. One of the most appealing and fun games that i've played this generation. Autoaim as a deterrence? In case you haven't noticed, it's not exactly an online shooter that requires skill. Most shooters (on Console or PC) don't have autoaim but, the thing is, Crackdown isn't that type of game. It's not competitive. Even then you don't have to use the autoaim...I didn't in fact.

Anyone who hasn't played this game should get up and go play it. It's well worth it. Definitely a 9.0 game IMO.

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#35 jethrovegas
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Overrated? Hell no, Crackdown was a great game.

It didn't hold your hand and force feed you narrative (there wasn't much to begin with); it just let you have fun.

Driving was fun, blowing **** up was fun, killing gangs was fun, and collecting agility orbs was fun, because unlike collectibles in games like Assassin's Creed where all you have to gain are the collectibles themselves (and achievement points I suppose) these 'collectibles' actually affected the gameplay, and were satisfying to find.

Also, the whole city was open to you at the very beginning, every target was technically available to be killed from the start, and the order in which you did things was completely up to you. In a way, Crackdown took the GTA design philosophy of grinding through hours upon hours of filler and tutorial bull ****, and flipped it right on its head.

If anything Crackdown is under-appreciated. Hell, I thought it was better a game than GTA IV, overall.

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Crackdown is just sheer mayhem fun! Deserved an 8.5 IMO (its not AAA) To those in the poll giving in a B/C you obviously didn't play and I feel sorry for you. I dare anyone to actually post and justify such a score. TC you shouldn't use polls for threads like this. Vermin fanboys love their anonymity.
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#37 Hungry_Homer111
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Kind of mixed about it. I mean, it had a lot of great ideas, and some of them were executed very well. The pure freedom of it (loose structure which could be a good or bad thing depending on your taste, and the level increases, especially the jumping). But it definitely had its problems, including its repetitive nature (go in, kill boss, get the hell out of there). Overall, I'm a bit torn about it, because I'm not sure if I'd give it an A or AA score if I reviewed it. But I would not say that it was overrated, because it was just that fun, and that unique.

I am quite interested in seeing what they do with the sequel. I'm hoping they'll do more with it, add new ideas, and more things to do in the city, and add more variety. If they can do that, then I'd be extremely pleased with it, and may even think it deserves a AAA score.

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#38 linkin_guy109
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id give it an 8.5, tons of fun things to do in it, it isnt an AAA because of the halo 3 beta on it ;) :P

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#39 Macutchi
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it deserves an 8.0 - 8.5 all day long.

i loved the art style and the presentation of the game, loved the narration, thought it was an extremely fun pick up and play game although it was easy to get sidetracked from the main story and do nothing but look for agility orbs

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#40 Cicatraz_ESP
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I'd say about 8 - 8.5. And damn, collecting those green orbs sure was addicting, and probably my most enjoyable part of the game.

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#41 deuteris
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I think it's under-rated, especially for the time it came out. I think the bland ending is really what hurt it. Playing it with a friend is a giant pile of fun, though.