Is Destiny the Phantom Menace of video games?

I'm starting to think now that Destiny is somewhat similar to the disaster of the Star Wars prequels. A well liked development studio comes back years later with something fresh and new and ends up missing the point entirely. The Star Wars prequels are massive failures in storytelling, characters, cinematography, acting, etc. State of the art visuals and memorable soundtracks were the only good things about them. Destiny released and it's a massive failure in basic game design, story, atmosphere, mechanics, etc. Again, the visuals and soundtrack are the only things that are actually great.

A lot of people were in denial when the first episode of Star Wars came out. It actually didn't review that terribly. Heck Roger Ebert gave is a 3.5/4. I feel like a lot of people are also in denial over Destiny. They just can't imagine a game so big like this being so terrible. As a result, it also reviewed quite decently. Heck, major gaming websites still think it's a contender for game of the year awards.

The first batch of updates and DLC came out for Destiny, but none of them have actually made the game better. If Destiny 2 turns out to be similar to the first game, I think we might have our official star wars prequel shit fest for video games.

Anyone else have similar thoughts?

• High level production values (check)
• One-dimensional characters nobody gives a damn about (check)
• Incoherent plot (check)
• Largely shallow and substance-less experience (check)

You might be on to something.

So does that make peter dinklage jar jar Bink's?

I mean, I loved Revenge of the Sith. It might be my second or third favorite overall.

The other two prequels, though. They make me want to cut myself.

So are you implying the next two are going to equally suck, lol?

Alien 3.

Maybe, Jar Jar is annoying in an incoherent stupid kind of fashion. The ghost is annoying by how fucking boring he is.

They're both awful

I don't know, but I keep hearing all these rumors that Activision was forcing Bungie to make certain cuts with it's story and game design. If this is true, and Activision still has some form of creative control over the games, then I expect two more disasters in the future.

Destiny is Transformers. Destiny is Grand Theft Auto IV. Destiny is Hunt's Ketchup. Destiny is Little Caesar Pizza. Destiny is the Jacksonville Jaguars. Destiny is North Korea.

But it's still better than Halo and Call of Duty... which still isn't saying much.

That's insulting to Phantom Menace.

Nope. I had a lot of fun playing Destiny. I also have fun with certain parts of the Star Wars Prequels. Namely the lightsaber duels. When compared with the battles in 4,5,6 the art form really nose dived after the fall of the jedi order.

Destiny is the shittiest game i still play. I play the game and hope for the best but then the dlc's for the whole year are leaked and what's inside of em is so pathetically minor that i'm not sure wtf Bungie/activision is thinking. After March, when the next dlc comes out, there will be no DLC's for half a year... i think they went full ***** on this one.

jar jar was a better character...well, jar jar was a character

And still made a truck load of money, and the following Destiny sequels will make millions as well just like Star Wars Episode 2 and 3.

That's the sad part.

Amen.

I would argue Destiny is the Avatar of video games. Because as far as I'm aware no one liked Phantom Menace, but some people (read: dumb people) like Avatar. You can draw the same comparisons as above plus you can add simplistic and overall poor storytelling. And trying to cover up a poor narrative with lots of set-pieces and CGI (even though the cut-scenes in Destiny are pretty unimpressive).

No because I enjoyed The Phantom Menace.

I was going to buy destiny and get back into playing online fps' more than I do now. Guess I dodged that steaming pile.

Nah, more like the Grabbed by the Ghoulies of Bungie's career.

I do get your comparison but can't agree.

The Phantom Menace, for all the things it does wrong, still does a lot of stuff right. Destiny just seems like a cash machine, to keep players hooked so they'll spend more on DLC, whilst only offering them the most basic, repetitive gameplay.

Did Phantom Menace charge people another 20 bucks so you could watch another half hour of Jar Jar Binks stumbling like an idiot? That's basically what Destiny DLC does.

I never really understood why Episode 1-3 got sooo much hated that is until I started watching the Documentary: The People vs George Lucas last year and GL didn't care for his beloved SW but that's another story. Destiny is no where near that bad as Episode 1 but I couldn't say the same for Mass Effect 3 ending which was worst then Episode 1. I'm still playing shitty Destiny on PS4.

Destiny sucks and Phantom Menace is awesome............so no it is not

Always funny when this happens.

I think you might have a point. The Prequel movies weren't that bad in my opinion, but people had high hopes for them after the original three and for many people they didn't live up to that. Perhaps they were trying to appeal to a different audience that enjoyed the special effects and comic characters like Jar-Jar, but they failed to make it enjoyable for adults as well.

Touted as being from the creators of Halo at every opportunity (see pic), people were obviously expecting great things from destiny too, but they failed to live up to the hype. Surely it's a fun game in its own right but not the masterpiece people had hoped for. Its most drawing features are the visuals and the world design, which are impressive, but it seems as if they put all their eggs in one basket.

I thought the Phantom Menace was amazing...Destiny is just ok

@EJ902 said:

Always funny when this happens.

I think you might have a point. The Prequel movies weren't that bad in my opinion, but people had high hopes for them after the original three and for many people they didn't live up to that. Perhaps they were trying to appeal to a different audience that enjoyed the special effects and comic characters like Jar-Jar, but they failed to make it enjoyable for adults as well.

Touted as being from the creators of Halo at every opportunity (see pic), people were obviously expecting great things from destiny too, but they failed to live up to the hype. Surely it's a fun game in its own right but not the masterpiece people had hoped for. Its most drawing features are the visuals and the world design, which are impressive, but it seems as if they put all their eggs in one basket.

I pretty much never follow the hate for the prequels, they were good to me back then and Destiny, despite it's a shitty game, I'm still playing it. Can you believe that?

Destiny is pretty fun. Most of the hate comes from angry MS fanboys. Lemmings because they lost Bungie and hermits because they got skipped over again. Go play Ryse Hermits.

I still see so many enjoying Destiny even when they acknowledge the flaws, it confuses me.

@JangoWuzHere: I guess my browser doesn't see what you posted, because I didn't. I am on mobile

Destiny really is its own shit show. The first DLC basically showed how little bungie cares about veteran players. The new leaked DLC is also going to bare lil value for 20$...

There was a leak called "Comet" said to be slated for September this year that is supposed to have a lot of content. But it's supposed to be distributed as a disc content... (Inb4 60$ retail.)

@foxhound_fox: as a kid, the battle at bespin and on the new deathstar were awesome. But after the Episode 1,2,3 battles they were like me and friends in the school yard with wiffle bats in the 1980s.

More like Interstellar.

Though that would be saying Nolan is like Bungie of film industry. Which isn't true. Not even close.

It's because we have a lot vested in it already, and most likely like myself are still playing it to upgrade all of our armor and weapons. Other than that, I still play when I see friends on the Crucible or doing a strike/raid.

Well, The Phantom Menace was a cash machine in its own way. Nothing in the movie has any depth. It's all shoved on the screen to make merchandise and toys for kiddies.

IV- VI really aren't that much better, and certainly not what anyone would call "deep". IV and V were good films and The Return of the Jedi was pretty bad. On par with The Phantom Menace.

Saying Phantom Menace is in par with the Return of the Jedi is like saying plain boring white bread is the same as a grilled cheese sandwich.

Despite the flaws in Jedi, it has far better characters and an actual story worth caring about.

At least The Phantom Menace had Qui-Gon Jinn, one of the best Jedi ever. The light saber duels were among the best as well. Return of the Jedi had... ewoks. The only thing that saved VI from being the worst was not having the boring politics from The Phantom Menace.

I'd rank the films like this:

V> IV> III> II> VI> I

The Phantom Menace is great. The entire prequel trilogy is great.

They enjoy interactive servitude.

Don't get it. Life is too short and busy for that shit.

It's one thing to acknowledge flaws and still enjoy something. We do that all the time. But I've heard so many Destiny players say that they don't even enjoy the game yet still play. I guess that's the MMO carrot-on-a-stick factor.

No. I see other games that can like the Phantom Menace.

Shooting mechanics are solid AF. Both raids are excellent. All three classes are fun to play. These are the three things i like about the game. Everything else is a colossal failure. Also, i would've quit the game long ago if i had something to play with co-op/pvp for better longevity but i don't and Bloodborne comes out in a half a century. Cuz of this dry year i've spent way over 100h in a 6/10 game lol.