Is DS > PC?

I'm testing a new angle on System wars. Why don't we ever compare handheld SYSTEMS against the consoles or PC? They are all systems, but we only tend to cmpare handhelds vs other handhelds.

I personally haven't followed the handheld market very closely. My kids love their DS and I've enjoyed it at times. I do know that you can game on a DS a lot cheaper than a PC and the games can be just as fun. Sure graphics aren't as good, but it does have the PC beat in mobility and you don't have to load drivers or download updates to play.

Are there any other comparisons I'm issing that make the DS > PC?

I'm testing a new angle on System wars. Why don't we ever compare handheld SYSTEMS against the consoles or PC? They are all systems, but we only tend to cmpare handhelds vs other handhelds.

I personally haven't followed the handheld market very closely. My kids love their DS and I've enjoyed it at times. I do know that you can game on a DS a lot cheaper than a PC and the games can be just as fun. Sure graphics aren't as good, but it does have the PC beat in mobility and you don't have to load drivers or download updates to play.

Are there any other comparisons I'm issing that make the DS > PC?

mikasa

Which system is best depends entirely on the games. I cannot get the games I want on a handheld and seeing as i'm never on the move in such a fashion that allows me to play games at the same time I don't see the point in staring at a tiny screen *shrug*.

A more valid comparison would be mobile phone to DS, including the iPhone.

[QUOTE="mikasa"]

I'm testing a new angle on System wars. Why don't we ever compare handheld SYSTEMS against the consoles or PC? They are all systems, but we only tend to cmpare handhelds vs other handhelds.

I personally haven't followed the handheld market very closely. My kids love their DS and I've enjoyed it at times. I do know that you can game on a DS a lot cheaper than a PC and the games can be just as fun. Sure graphics aren't as good, but it does have the PC beat in mobility and you don't have to load drivers or download updates to play.

Are there any other comparisons I'm issing that make the DS > PC?

Stonin

Which system is best depends entirely on the games. I cannot get the games I want on a handheld and seeing as i'm never on the move in such a fashion that allows me to play games at the same time I don't see the point in staring at a tiny screen *shrug*.

A more valid comparison would be mobile phone to DS, including the iPhone.

I agree this is crap, but I'm testing out a theory. Many claim comparing PCs to consoles is fair. When others say they too different to allow for a fair comparison. For example, PCs can be cheaper than consoles (but then you can't play new games on max settings). Or PC can have the best graphics (but you have to pay out the wazoo to keep it that way and you have to stay on top of drivers and sometimes you need to wait for driver updates before you can even play). There are more difference than similarities between them.

And the same applies when you try to compare handhelds to Consoles or PC. It just doesn't make sense to me, but I'd like for someone to show me the error in my thinking. Why is it we only see Handheld vs. handheld threads and Consoles vs. Console, and PC vs. Console. Why doesn't the handheld compete as a full system on System Wars? Also why don't we include cell phones?

Yes I know the answer to these for me, but I"m just trying to get into the same range of thinking that the leads of this board has so that I can better enjoy it and hopefully avoid being modded/banned for disagreing with the mod again.

Good point, in terms of library size the DS is the only one that comes near the PC ... I have no idea why they are not included.Meu2k7

I hope to find out too. There must be reason why PC fans jump only into the console vs. console discussions but don't jump into the PSP vs. DS discussions. You'd think they'd want to jump in there as well.

you can game on a DS a lot cheaper than a PC

mikasa

False.

DS Games cost £30 over here, a complete rip off.

[QUOTE="mikasa"]

you can game on a DS a lot cheaper than a PC

Maverick_Chaos1

False.

DS Games cost £30 over here, a complete rip off.

Wow...that is a rip. They are typically $30 here.

[QUOTE="Stonin"][QUOTE="mikasa"]

I'm testing a new angle on System wars. Why don't we ever compare handheld SYSTEMS against the consoles or PC? They are all systems, but we only tend to cmpare handhelds vs other handhelds.

I personally haven't followed the handheld market very closely. My kids love their DS and I've enjoyed it at times. I do know that you can game on a DS a lot cheaper than a PC and the games can be just as fun. Sure graphics aren't as good, but it does have the PC beat in mobility and you don't have to load drivers or download updates to play.

Are there any other comparisons I'm issing that make the DS > PC?

mikasa

Which system is best depends entirely on the games. I cannot get the games I want on a handheld and seeing as i'm never on the move in such a fashion that allows me to play games at the same time I don't see the point in staring at a tiny screen *shrug*.

A more valid comparison would be mobile phone to DS, including the iPhone.

I agree this is crap, but I'm testing out a theory. Many claim comparing PCs to consoles is fair. When others say they too different to allow for a fair comparison. For example, PCs can be cheaper than consoles (but then you can't play new games on max settings). Or PC can have the best graphics (but you have to pay out the wazoo to keep it that way and you have to stay on top of drivers and sometimes you need to wait for driver updates before you can even play). There are more difference than similarities between them.

And the same applies when you try to compare handhelds to Consoles or PC. It just doesn't make sense to me, but I'd like for someone to show me the error in my thinking. Why is it we only see Handheld vs. handheld threads and Consoles vs. Console, and PC vs. Console. Why doesn't the handheld compete as a full system on System Wars? Also why don't we include cell phones?

Yes I know the answer to these for me, but I"m just trying to get into the same range of thinking that the leads of this board has so that I can better enjoy it and hopefully avoid being modded/banned for disagreing with the mod again.

When comparing consoles what is it that is really being compared? The size of the budget people will spend, hardware or gaming experience? It should be the latter. In this case it is perfectly acceptable to compare any system to another. That means you can compare a handheld to a home console, but a home console will almost always win hence why they won't be compared. To illustrate this point, how would you rather watch a film, on an Ipod or on your Television? I'm not arguing whether or not people prefer handheld games or console games but there is a far greater chance of improved gaming experience with a console.

[QUOTE="mikasa"][QUOTE="Stonin"][QUOTE="mikasa"]

I'm testing a new angle on System wars. Why don't we ever compare handheld SYSTEMS against the consoles or PC? They are all systems, but we only tend to cmpare handhelds vs other handhelds.

I personally haven't followed the handheld market very closely. My kids love their DS and I've enjoyed it at times. I do know that you can game on a DS a lot cheaper than a PC and the games can be just as fun. Sure graphics aren't as good, but it does have the PC beat in mobility and you don't have to load drivers or download updates to play.

Are there any other comparisons I'm issing that make the DS > PC?

deviates1080

Which system is best depends entirely on the games. I cannot get the games I want on a handheld and seeing as i'm never on the move in such a fashion that allows me to play games at the same time I don't see the point in staring at a tiny screen *shrug*.

A more valid comparison would be mobile phone to DS, including the iPhone.

I agree this is crap, but I'm testing out a theory. Many claim comparing PCs to consoles is fair. When others say they too different to allow for a fair comparison. For example, PCs can be cheaper than consoles (but then you can't play new games on max settings). Or PC can have the best graphics (but you have to pay out the wazoo to keep it that way and you have to stay on top of drivers and sometimes you need to wait for driver updates before you can even play). There are more difference than similarities between them.

And the same applies when you try to compare handhelds to Consoles or PC. It just doesn't make sense to me, but I'd like for someone to show me the error in my thinking. Why is it we only see Handheld vs. handheld threads and Consoles vs. Console, and PC vs. Console. Why doesn't the handheld compete as a full system on System Wars? Also why don't we include cell phones?

Yes I know the answer to these for me, but I"m just trying to get into the same range of thinking that the leads of this board has so that I can better enjoy it and hopefully avoid being modded/banned for disagreing with the mod again.

When comparing consoles what is it that is really being compared? The size of the budget people will spend, hardware or gaming experience? It should be the latter. In this case it is perfectly acceptable to compare any system to another. That means you can compare a handheld to a home console, but a home console will almost always win hence why they won't be compared. To illustrate this point, how would you rather watch a film, on an Ipod or on your Television? I'm not arguing whether or not people prefer handheld games or console games but there is a far greater chance of improved gaming experience with a console.

First, your comparison is completely off base as the movie is the same movie just on a bigger picture with better PQ. But how do you compare what is essentially 2 completely differnt experiences. Like Elite Beat Agents vs. Guitar Hero 2? Sure I can compare peaches and bananas and I can tell you I like peaches better; however, they cost more but htere are more bananas sold every year. What does that prove? And if you're going to argue with me that bananas are really better because of XXXXX, then this is just silly.

They are completely different and proof that the difference is understood is seen in the lack of Hermits jumping on DS or PSP threads and claiming they have the better system for gaming. But for some reason they do want to jump on the console threads. AND if the you try to make a console only discussion it's against the TOC, but you CAN make a handheld only thread with no thread of bans. I wonder why?

[QUOTE="Maverick_Chaos1"][QUOTE="mikasa"]

you can game on a DS a lot cheaper than a PC

mikasa

False.

DS Games cost £30 over here, a complete rip off.

Wow...that is a rip. They are typically $30 here.

Things ;ike this, is why PC's are significantly more popular than consoles in Europe and some other places.

depends on where ure playing.

if ure playing on the move then DS>PC (or laptop in this case). DS has a better battery life and is more durable. its also alot smaller which is great for protable play and the touch screen is far better than track bads and nubbins found in laptops. yes u can bring a mouse but thats more luggage and hassle which defeats the whole portable gaming bit.

if ure going to put the DS up against PDAs and phones then it still has the advantage due to a better liberary and better controls (i hate playing games on my phone). so from a portable persepective, PCs arent really up to the job imho. theres loads of PC games that would be very suitable for portable play though. portable hardware just isnt available.

so if ure playing on the DSs turf.....it remains the king imho. portable gaming is what the DS does best.

now if u want to play on home turf (ie, portability and the size of the machine are non issues, as is battery life and durability) then the DS is still very respectable but it cant really stand against the PC. it has some games that u could get lost in for hours (advane wars FTW....cracking game) but the PC has more and its controls are superior overall.

imho anyway.

depends on where ure playing.

if ure playing on the move then DS>PC (or laptop in this case). DS has a better battery life and is more durable. its also alot smaller which is great for protable play and the touch screen is far better than track bads and nubbins found in laptops. yes u can bring a mouse but thats more luggage and hassle which defeats the whole portable gaming bit.

if ure going to put the DS up against PDAs and phones then it still has the advantage due to a better liberary and better controls (i hate playing games on my phone). so from a portable persepective, PCs arent really up to the job imho. theres loads of PC games that would be very suitable for portable play though. portable hardware just isnt available.

so if ure playing on the DSs turf.....it remains the king imho. portable gaming is what the DS does best.

now if u want to play on home turf (ie, portability and the size of the machine are non issues, as is battery life and durability) then the DS is still very respectable but it cant really stand against the PC. it has some games that u could get lost in for hours (advane wars FTW....cracking game) but the PC has more and its controls are superior overall.

imho anyway.

osan0

very nicely summed up

depends on where ure playing.

if ure playing on the move then DS>PC (or laptop in this case). DS has a better battery life and is more durable. its also alot smaller which is great for protable play and the touch screen is far better than track bads and nubbins found in laptops. yes u can bring a mouse but thats more luggage and hassle which defeats the whole portable gaming bit.

if ure going to put the DS up against PDAs and phones then it still has the advantage due to a better liberary and better controls (i hate playing games on my phone). so from a portable persepective, PCs arent really up to the job imho. theres loads of PC games that would be very suitable for portable play though. portable hardware just isnt available.

so if ure playing on the DSs turf.....it remains the king imho. portable gaming is what the DS does best.

now if u want to play on home turf (ie, portability and the size of the machine are non issues, as is battery life and durability) then the DS is still very respectable but it cant really stand against the PC. it has some games that u could get lost in for hours (advane wars FTW....cracking game) but the PC has more and its controls are superior overall.

imho anyway.

osan0

Exactly, neither one is better. Just like if you like to play with a controller and not worry about drivers and upgrades, then consoles > PC. Or if you like to play at your desk PC > Consoles.

That's understood each one has their moments to shine, but overall which is better (all things being the same). Is DS > PC or is PC > DS.

well the pc isn't all too portable (even laptops aren't play and go) so it depends on the setting and type of gaming you're looking for.

i think that the PC to console comparison is a little more appropriate because they have very similar game types now and both can be hooked up to an HDTV. oh and pc's can use game controlers too so it's not like you have to use mouse and keyboard.

well the pc isn't all too portable (even laptops aren't play and go) so it depends on the setting and type of gaming you're looking for.

i think that the PC to console comparison is a little more appropriate because they have very similar game types now and both can be hooked up to an HDTV. oh and pc's can use game controlers too so it's not like you have to use mouse and keyboard.

Ontain

But it's still apples vs. oranges comparison. So one is a little closer to the other, but it really doesn't make it a "fair" comparison.

But there are play and go ultra portables around. Heck my tablet PC is pretty small and has a great screen, so it should be able to compete against the DS. Plus I can watch movies on my laptop when I get tired of gaming. Let's see the DS do that! My tablet has "touch", I just need a few more games that leverage the stylus and we have a DS killer on our hands.

[QUOTE="Ontain"]

well the pc isn't all too portable (even laptops aren't play and go) so it depends on the setting and type of gaming you're looking for.

i think that the PC to console comparison is a little more appropriate because they have very similar game types now and both can be hooked up to an HDTV. oh and pc's can use game controlers too so it's not like you have to use mouse and keyboard.

mikasa

But it's still apples vs. oranges comparison. So one is a little closer to the other, but it really doesn't make it a "fair" comparison.

But there are play and go ultra portables around. Heck my tablet PC is pretty small and has a great screen, so it should be able to compete against the DS. Plus I can watch movies on my laptop when I get tired of gaming. Let's see the DS do that! My tablet has "touch", I just need a few more games that leverage the stylus and we have a DS killer on our hands.

problem with the tablets is that few pc games will work on it or at least on a playable level. also it's still not as portable.

when you compare the other functions of course the pc wins. but i'm just talking about the gaming right now.

[QUOTE="mikasa"][QUOTE="Ontain"]

well the pc isn't all too portable (even laptops aren't play and go) so it depends on the setting and type of gaming you're looking for.

i think that the PC to console comparison is a little more appropriate because they have very similar game types now and both can be hooked up to an HDTV. oh and pc's can use game controlers too so it's not like you have to use mouse and keyboard.

Ontain

But it's still apples vs. oranges comparison. So one is a little closer to the other, but it really doesn't make it a "fair" comparison.

But there are play and go ultra portables around. Heck my tablet PC is pretty small and has a great screen, so it should be able to compete against the DS. Plus I can watch movies on my laptop when I get tired of gaming. Let's see the DS do that! My tablet has "touch", I just need a few more games that leverage the stylus and we have a DS killer on our hands.

problem with the tablets is that few pc games will work on it or at least on a playable level. also it's still not as portable.

when you compare the other functions of course the pc wins. but i'm just talking about the gaming right now.

But those differences are really user preferences so we really should talk about them more. Just like when PC/hermits jump into the middle of a 360 vs. PS3 debate.And of course it's against the TOC to ask them to stay out of this console only discussion. So I think we are missing an opprotunity to expand the PCs domination to the handheld market. I like my tablet, so the next DS thread I see I'll be sure to pop in and say my tablet > DS.

[QUOTE="Maverick_Chaos1"][QUOTE="mikasa"]

you can game on a DS a lot cheaper than a PC

mikasa

False.

DS Games cost £30 over here, a complete rip off.

Wow...that is a rip. They are typically $30 here.

true...some games are really a ripoff. Paying $30 for a minigame?

Why are we discussing this? Casey already specified: This is System Wars. Every system counts. Hexagon_777

Am I getting ignored because I'm black?

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]Good point, in terms of library size the DS is the only one that comes near the PC ... I have no idea why they are not included.mikasa

I hope to find out too. There must be reason why PC fans jump only into the console vs. console discussions but don't jump into the PSP vs. DS discussions. You'd think they'd want to jump in there as well.

Do you every see DS vs. PS3 or PSP vs Wii? Well actually yea you do see PSP vs. Wii, but that's besides the point.

Why are we discussing this? Casey already specified: This is System Wars. Every system counts. Hexagon_777

Huh? That is WHY we are discussiong this because he said it's each system against each system. No subs categories. And to me comparing handhelds to PCs is silly, but I wanted to test it out and see if it could have anything good come out of it...and so far I've been proven right. Comparing handhelds to PCs is stupid.

This is a terrible thread.


Oh and

DS
5 AAAs
28 AAs


PSP
5 AAAs
58 AAsDireToad

I agree, but we need to get used to it if we aren't allowed to use sub categories in System wars.

From what I have heard there is a PC - DS emulator.

I could be wrong.

If so - PC wins.

What am i saying!?!?! This is a silly thread. PC WINS REGARDLESS.

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]Why are we discussing this? Casey already specified: This is System Wars. Every system counts. mikasa

Huh? That is WHY we are discussiong this because he said it's each system against each system. No subs categories. And to me comparing handhelds to PCs is silly, but I wanted to test it out and see if it could have anything good come out of it...and so far I've been proven right. Comparing handhelds to PCs is stupid.

So, going by your standards, we would have to put the PC in a category of its own. Consoles would stay in the console section and handhelds would stay in the handhelds section, right?

[QUOTE="mikasa"]

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]Why are we discussing this? Casey already specified: This is System Wars. Every system counts. Hexagon_777

Huh? That is WHY we are discussiong this because he said it's each system against each system. No subs categories. And to me comparing handhelds to PCs is silly, but I wanted to test it out and see if it could have anything good come out of it...and so far I've been proven right. Comparing handhelds to PCs is stupid.

So, going by your standards, we would have to put the PC in a category of its own. Consoles would stay in the console section and handhelds would stay in the handhelds section, right?

That would be one way to do it.

The PC could have it's own platforms...like Linux PC, Windows PC, MAC PC. Or it can go hardware like INTEL vs. AMD, or NVIDIA vs. ATI, KB+M vs Controller, Cheap PC gaming vs. Expensive PC gaming.

Well the PSP has as much AAAe's and more AAe's than the DS, so why not compare the PSP to it to?gingerdivid

Absolutely we should. And the PC would have a tough time competing to get a small screen taht looks that good. but I'm sure somehow the PC would win. THey'd just redefine what "fair" is.

depends on where ure playing.

if ure playing on the move then DS>PC (or laptop in this case). DS has a better battery life and is more durable. its also alot smaller which is great for protable play and the touch screen is far better than track bads and nubbins found in laptops. yes u can bring a mouse but thats more luggage and hassle which defeats the whole portable gaming bit.

if ure going to put the DS up against PDAs and phones then it still has the advantage due to a better liberary and better controls (i hate playing games on my phone). so from a portable persepective, PCs arent really up to the job imho. theres loads of PC games that would be very suitable for portable play though. portable hardware just isnt available.

so if ure playing on the DSs turf.....it remains the king imho. portable gaming is what the DS does best.

now if u want to play on home turf (ie, portability and the size of the machine are non issues, as is battery life and durability) then the DS is still very respectable but it cant really stand against the PC. it has some games that u could get lost in for hours (advane wars FTW....cracking game) but the PC has more and its controls are superior overall.

imho anyway.

osan0

Exactly.....While you are travelling...DS/PSP>>>>>>>PC

While your at home.....PC/X360/PS3/Wii>>>>>>>>>>DS/PSP

That's the reason they are not compared.

Well if your talking about move-ability then of course DS wins, it also wins xbox and 360 in that field.

But in general all the other systems completely own it.

This is the dumbest title ever to exist in the history of system wars on gamespot. Comparing DS to PC is like comparing a garbage can to a super computer. Why would you want to make the PC a handheld? that is stupid...If take the keyboard and mouse away from the PC then it is no PC anymore. The controls on the PC is what by far in my opinion owns any console...specially in shooters.whocares9

I completely agree, but suggest you read Casey's sticky on does sales or games count for the winner. He states SW is comparing ALL Systems even handhelds vs. PC. So basically under the new rules of SW...we can just say PC wins and close the board. Unless it's a console launch year in which it can leap past the PC for a short while.

Might as well rename the forum to PC wins.

Comparing DS to PC is like comparing a garbage can to a super computer.whocares9

[QUOTE="whocares9"]Comparing DS to PC is like comparing a garbage can to a super computer.Hoffgod

Hence the reason for my topic. This is just silly and to illustrate that I'm pointing out the logical conclusion of his point. Which is NEW to SW. No longer is the PS2 the winner of lastgen....it's the PC. Even though the PC ALWAYS has a headstart every generation. Even though the PC is primarily not a gaming device. And for that matter we should start including cell phones, they play games as well.

I think something got lost in translation between this is SYSTEM WARS...all systems are welcome to be dicussed and competed head-to-head, but that doesn't mean all systems must always be compared head to head. Some gamers want only handhelds, but to have hermits chime in PC is better is trolling. Or to try and discuss 360 vs. PS3 just to have a hermit say get the game on PC it's better is trolling, but today it's actually encouraged. And trying to say console only is against the TOC.

Maybe I'll get banned for good and end this nightmare.I'm really hanging in here for the halo3 review and R&C reviews, so I hope to not get banned to quickly though.

I'm testing a new angle on System wars. Why don't we ever compare handheld SYSTEMS against the consoles or PC? They are all systems, but we only tend to cmpare handhelds vs other handhelds.

I personally haven't followed the handheld market very closely. My kids love their DS and I've enjoyed it at times. I do know that you can game on a DS a lot cheaper than a PC and the games can be just as fun. Sure graphics aren't as good, but it does have the PC beat in mobility and you don't have to load drivers or download updates to play.

Are there any other comparisons I'm issing that make the DS > PC?

mikasa

[QUOTE="mikasa"]

I'm testing a new angle on System wars. Why don't we ever compare handheld SYSTEMS against the consoles or PC? They are all systems, but we only tend to cmpare handhelds vs other handhelds.

I personally haven't followed the handheld market very closely. My kids love their DS and I've enjoyed it at times. I do know that you can game on a DS a lot cheaper than a PC and the games can be just as fun. Sure graphics aren't as good, but it does have the PC beat in mobility and you don't have to load drivers or download updates to play.

Are there any other comparisons I'm issing that make the DS > PC?

AIH_PSP

Really? I can build a weak computer or buy an ultra portable laptop. My tablet plays games as well. But it's not me saying it...it's Casey the mod that says YES that's what system wars is for, so I'm testing it out to see if it gets a response that indicates that is true. So far, it's flopping hard.

[QUOTE="Hoffgod"][QUOTE="whocares9"]Comparing DS to PC is like comparing a garbage can to a super computer.mikasa

Hence the reason for my topic. This is just silly and to illustrate that I'm pointing out the logical conclusion of his point. Which is NEW to SW. No longer is the PS2 the winner of lastgen....it's the PC. Even though the PC ALWAYS has a headstart every generation. Even though the PC is primarily not a gaming device. And for that matter we should start including cell phones, they play games as well.

I think something got lost in translation between this is SYSTEM WARS...all systems are welcome to be dicussed and competed head-to-head, but that doesn't mean all systems must always be compared head to head. Some gamers want only handhelds, but to have hermits chime in PC is better is trolling. Or to try and discuss 360 vs. PS3 just to have a hermit say get the game on PC it's better is trolling, but today it's actually encouraged. And trying to say console only is against the TOC.

Maybe I'll get banned for good and end this nightmare.I'm really hanging in here for the halo3 review and R&C reviews, so I hope to not get banned to quickly though.

Why so much HERMIT hate:( Do you really believe that a cow wouldn't come and post "PS3 is better" in a thread titled "PC Vs X360"

[QUOTE="mikasa"]

[QUOTE="Hoffgod"][QUOTE="whocares9"]Comparing DS to PC is like comparing a garbage can to a super computer.froidnite

Hence the reason for my topic. This is just silly and to illustrate that I'm pointing out the logical conclusion of his point. Which is NEW to SW. No longer is the PS2 the winner of lastgen....it's the PC. Even though the PC ALWAYS has a headstart every generation. Even though the PC is primarily not a gaming device. And for that matter we should start including cell phones, they play games as well.

I think something got lost in translation between this is SYSTEM WARS...all systems are welcome to be dicussed and competed head-to-head, but that doesn't mean all systems must always be compared head to head. Some gamers want only handhelds, but to have hermits chime in PC is better is trolling. Or to try and discuss 360 vs. PS3 just to have a hermit say get the game on PC it's better is trolling, but today it's actually encouraged. And trying to say console only is against the TOC.

Maybe I'll get banned for good and end this nightmare.I'm really hanging in here for the halo3 review and R&C reviews, so I hope to not get banned to quickly though.

Why so much HERMIT hate:( Do you really believe that a cow wouldn't come and post "PS3 is better" in a thread titled "PC Vs X360"

Not nearly as much and those that due are generally seen as the lowest form of cow. But a ton of hermits do it and they get a sticky telling everyone that they are right in doing so.

[QUOTE="gingerdivid"]Well the PSP has as much AAAe's and more AAe's than the DS, so why not compare the PSP to it to?mikasa

Absolutely we should. And the PC would have a tough time competing to get a small screen taht looks that good. but I'm sure somehow the PC would win. THey'd just redefine what "fair" is.

So youve gone from rentals, to Handhelds to try and make the PC look bad again ... your logic is getting more warped by the minute :I

I do know that you can game on a DS a lot cheaper than a PC and the games can be just as fun.

mikasa

Not at all. For your kids maybe.

[QUOTE="mikasa"]

[QUOTE="gingerdivid"]Well the PSP has as much AAAe's and more AAe's than the DS, so why not compare the PSP to it to?Meu2k7

Absolutely we should. And the PC would have a tough time competing to get a small screen taht looks that good. but I'm sure somehow the PC would win. THey'd just redefine what "fair" is.

So youve gone from rentals, to Handhelds to try and make the PC look bad again ... your logic is getting more warped by the minute :I

My laptop > DS and PSP. How is that making PC look bad?

Wasn't this rule only called back to life so that the Wii wouldn't be considered first anymore? That's what it seemed like to me. The rule only became big again a week or so back after all. Additionally, sales weren't important anymore all of a sudden although cows kept using sales as ownage last gen. Strange, no? Hexagon_777

Good point. Until very very recently has sales ever been questioned. I remember the buzz about VGACharts and NPD etc.... But I don't remember a lot of posts saying sales don't matter. But instead all were arguing which sales to count.

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]Wasn't this rule only called back to life so that the Wii wouldn't be considered first anymore? That's what it seemed like to me. The rule only became big again a week or so back after all. Additionally, sales weren't important anymore all of a sudden although cows kept using sales as ownage last gen. Strange, no? mikasa

Good point. Until very very recently has sales ever been questioned. I remember the buzz about VGACharts and NPD etc.... But I don't remember a lot of posts saying sales don't matter. But instead all were arguing which sales to count.

Which sales count? What buzz about VgChartz and NPD? What's your asl?