Is Forza really as visually impressive as Gran Turismo?

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#1 BluRayHiDef
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I'll admit that I'm not a huge fan of racing games, but back when I had a PS3 and XBOX 360, I tried out both Forza 3 (or 4?) and Grand Turismo 5: Prologue, and remember Forza not being nearly as visually impressive as GT5: Prologue. The interiors of the cars in Forza looked very, very fake, while those of the cars in GT5: Prologue looked photographic. The same goes for the environments and the exteriors of the cars.

So, I'd like to know whether anyone truly believes that the Forza series holds up to the Gran Turismo series visually? 

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#2 SaltyMeatballs
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Yes. But GT6 is looking amazing for current gen.
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#3 BluRayHiDef
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Yes. But GT6 is looking amazing for current gen.SaltyMeatballs

So, does the latest current generation entry in the Forza series look as good as the latest current generation entry in the Gran Turismo series?

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#4 Chrome-
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I think visually GT has the slight upper-hand, But apart from that Forza humbled GT in every-other department this gen.
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I think visually GT has the slight upper-hand, But apart from that Forza humbled GT in every-other department this gen.Chrome-

You mean in terms of gameplay?

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honestly, you put them side by side during gameplay and you'll have a hard time telling which is which. People joke a lot about GT's 2D trees but Forza games have just as many. But what GT lacks in some texture here and there compared to Forza it makes it up with much superior lighting. That's why GT games always look slightly more realistic than Forza.

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#7 Ribnarak
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man imagine gt7 on ps4. **drools**

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#8 XboxFails
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Forza 5 looks worse than Forza 4. I don't even know how that's possible, but it is.

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honestly, you put them side by side during gameplay and you'll have a hard time telling which is which. People joke a lot about GT's 2D trees but Forza games have just as many. But what GT lacks in some texture here and there compared to Forza it makes it up with much superior lighting. That's why GT games always look slightly more realistic than Forza.

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Pretty much this. The lightning is what makes the cars in GT really pop
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#10 ConanTheStoner
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As already stated, the lighting in GT.  It just a more realistic look to it.

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#11 campzor
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the lighting in GT is ahead of forza.
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#12 CaseyWegner
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Forza 5 looks worse than Forza 4. I don't even know how that's possible, but it is.

 

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i'm sure you're using the best possible pictures. :roll:

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Yes, considering it's visual consistency across all cars and tracks. When GT5 looks good, it looks outstanding. But it also looks really bad in many situations. And sounds even worse.
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#14 TorqueHappens08
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In terms of ultra realistic lighting, no.

 

Evo X in Forza 5.

Evo X in GT5.

 

Forza is not quite at GT's lighting level yet. they are getting there, but after seeing the teaser for PS4 GT.... PD seem to have raised the bar, grab it, and through it into orbit.

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Just look at it.  GT7 is coming.

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#15 drekula2
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forza sucks visually but its a big accomplishment for MS to just do that.

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In terms of ultra realistic lighting, no.

Just look at it.  GT7 is coming.

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What video is this from?
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#17 R3FURBISHED
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GT6 is a good looking PS3 game, but graphically doesn't touch Forza or DriveClub

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#18 XboxFails
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GT6 is a good looking PS3 game, but graphically doesn't touch Forza or DriveClub

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Is this a joke? Forza 5 looks like a PS2 game.

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#19 GTSaiyanjin2
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Interms of IQ nothing beats GT... where they need to improve is the audio department.

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#20 R3FURBISHED
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[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"]

GT6 is a good looking PS3 game, but graphically doesn't touch Forza or DriveClub

XboxFails

Is this a joke? Forza 5 looks like a PS2 game.

And a word from the lowest denominator, how nice.

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Just as PGR3 was the best looking 360 launch title - Forza Motorsport 5 is the best looking Xbox One launch title.

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#21 inggrish
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Yes, it looks better. But you wouldn't really know there was a whole generation between them. 

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#22 TorqueHappens08
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[QUOTE="TorqueHappens08"]

In terms of ultra realistic lighting, no.

Just look at it.  GT7 is coming.

darksusperia

What video is this from?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfRq4Cgt6jY

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#23 Magik85
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So, I'd like to know whether anyone truly believes that the Forza series holds up to the Gran Turismo series visually? BluRayHiDef
I think FM4 holds really really well with GT5. Theyre about the same for me. GT5 has better lighting, colors and shader while FM4 has better modelling, textures and is more consistent. .

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#24 PAL360
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Forza 4 and GT5 look equaly impressive to me. Both handle 16 cars on screen at 60fps. Both have fantastic car models. I would say that GT5 has better looking interiors and Forza 4 has better looking environments.

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All these games look the same.
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#26 sukraj
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Both games look very nice.

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#27 walkingdream
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Um yes it is...
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#28 HadOne2Many
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Knowing that the obvious trolls in this thread won't read or even consider what I write here, I'm going to throw in a bit of truth anyway. GT5 does have some great car models when you are talking about the premiums, but unless you are using a premium car and racing only against other premium cars, the low res standard cars, blocky shadows, jaggies, pixelated weather effects & stuttery framerate completely ruin the visual fidelity. These aren't things you'll see in the handpicked screenshots people use for comparisons. If these problems are fixed in GT6 then good for PD and they may have a game that looks better than FM4, but so far it looks more of the same.
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#29 LA-Nighthawk
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Forza has always looked better than Gran Turismo.
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#30 Sagem28
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I can hardly tell the difference between them.

They all look alike.

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#31 Caseytappy
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GT5 = PS2 cars everywhere and those damn loading times :x

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forza feels like a poor man's Gran Turismo game, feels like PGR which was a pretty good game but GT series is incredible
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Foza has always had a certain look to it. Almost like they want it to look like a game.....

But I have played both Forza 4 and GT5 for hours and hours and I can confidently day Forza looks better. GT5 has the best looking cars (Premium cars) and better lighting. But GT5 is just boring. If they would speed up the menus. not making things like buying used cars a hassle, then GT5 would be at least competitive. It just isn't. The Forza series blows it away at this point.
Car cutomization and the way the single player modes are set up makes Forza the better game, never mind the stuff I already talked about.... And I am sure when GT6 comes out (So far it looks worse than 5), Cows will say how it is a better series than Forza even though Forza has moved on to the next gen.
Don't forget Forza Horizon....I think it is a completely different type of racer but since Cows always say "It is just Forza) I will count it here.....
Forza Horizon is better than Forza 4 and aside from a small downgrade in car models it is a way funner game than Forza 4.
Gran Turismo has no prayer at being better than Horizon......Not a prayer. 

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I don't think Forza was ever visually impressive, but its a fun game. Forza could use some motion blur when traveling over 100 mph, and the lighting sucks.

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Having seen both and judging from in-game, I simply find Forza more consistant across the board and a better overall looker. I do like GT's lighting though, it's very PGR4 which gives good sense of realism.

Although Horizon is 30fps, it is simply down right gorgous and the AA+FXAA lends to one of the cleanest console games I've seen period.

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#36 jessejay420
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[QUOTE="XboxFails"]

[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"]

GT6 is a good looking PS3 game, but graphically doesn't touch Forza or DriveClub

R3FURBISHED

Is this a joke? Forza 5 looks like a PS2 game.

And a word from the lowest denominator, how nice.

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Just as PGR3 was the best looking 360 launch title - Forza Motorsport 5 is the best looking Xbox One launch title.

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#37 jessejay420
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[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"]

GT6 is a good looking PS3 game, but graphically doesn't touch Forza or DriveClub

XboxFails

Is this a joke? Forza 5 looks like a PS2 game.

you must have forza confused with Gran Turismo. btw,who are you trying to convince with your idiotic posts?
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#38 JohnF111
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honestly, you put them side by side during gameplay and you'll have a hard time telling which is which. People joke a lot about GT's 2D trees but Forza games have just as many. But what GT lacks in some texture here and there compared to Forza it makes it up with much superior lighting. That's why GT games always look slightly more realistic than Forza.

Gue1
Same same here, on that huge comparison thread that's been buried by now I honestly couldn't tell half the time, and when I could it was only because I knew the car was or wasn't in one of the games.
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#39 jessejay420
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forza feels like a poor man's Gran Turismo xboxiphoneps3

 

Gamespot:

 

Forza 2 = 9.2 (2007 Racing Game of the Year)

 

Forza 3 = 9.5 (2009 Racing Game of the Year)

 

Forza 4 = 8.5

 

Horizon = 8.5 (2012 Racing Game of the Year)

 

GT5 = 8.0

 

Metacritic:

 

Forza 2 = 90%

 

Forza 3 = 92%

 

Forza 4 = 91%

 

Horizon = 85%

 

GT5 = 84%

 

Yeah,im going to have to disagree with you and say Forza mops the floor with Gran Turismo. ;)

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GT has better lighting, Forza has better textures. Forza is also, at least as of the last two installments for both games, the better game, but we'll see how it turns out this year.
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#42 Couth_
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I don't think Forza was ever visually impressive, but its a fun game. Forza could use some motion blur when traveling over 100 mph, and the lighting sucks.

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Huh. It's impressive. It's just not AS impressive forza_motorsport_4_vs_gran_turismo_5_by_
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Just as PGR3 was the best looking 360 launch title - Forza Motorsport 5 is the best looking Xbox One launch title.

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Drool, Drooling all over my keyboard...that looks incredible!

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Just the car models IMO. The track detail and general lighting isnt as tight as GT5s. But on the downside of GT5s lighting, it presented more cracks on the non-premium modelled vehicles.