is it already time to release the 8th gen consoles?

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#1 melvz99
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IMO, not yet..unless the next gen console can render (realtime gameplay graphics)the same graphics as clear as the intro movie clip of GranTurismo 5 or the movie clip of dantes inferno when his wife was murdered.im still happy with the capacity of consoles graphics specially when playing God of war3. i was really shocked the first time i played it.
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#2 turtlethetaffer
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No, I'm happy with what i got.

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#3 -RocBoys9489-
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I think it easily is, I always thought a few years ago that 2011 would be the release of the first console for the new gen. That's a 6 year period which is very standard. There needs to be a new console by next year because the technology gap between consoles and PC is just getting ridiculous and keeps on growing. I don't remember PC's absolutely slaughtering the old gen consoles like they do now. Technology just advances so much faster now than it use to I guess.
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#4 navyguy21
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Only way id be ready is if they were both backward compatible with current gen games, and had the ability to add AA to those games that need it.
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-Looks at UC3 and Gears 3, then looks at The Witcher 2- Yes.

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#6 AutoPilotOn
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Already? Its been like 6 years thats pretty dang long already. I really hope they release something new.
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#7 KC_Hokie
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Not yet. Games still haven't used the full potential of the Xbox 360 for example. I think Rage might. Don't create a new console until the current generation has been maxed out.
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IMO, not yet..unless the next gen console can render (realtime gameplay graphics)the same graphics as clear as the intro movie clip of GranTurismo 5 or the movie clip of dantes inferno when his wife was murdered.im still happy with the capacity of consoles graphics specially when playing God of war3. i was really shocked the first time i played it.melvz99
you don't want a new console till 2025?

anyway if a new console came out tomorrow i would buy it, it's been over 5 years which is pretty long in the tooth for a game system.

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#10 PS2_ROCKS
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Yes already I feel like this gen is like 6.5. The limitations of the PS3 and 360 are really making a mess of games in my opinion. Devs wouldn't have to sacrifice so much if it wasn't for this 6 year old hardware they're dealing with.
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#11 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Nah. This gen has still potential.
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#12 gibson-les-rick
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Yes, the hardware limits are getting clearly noticable now

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#13 Riverwolf007
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i wish this had a poll.

i'm curious as to how many sw guys are ready to move on.

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#14 BZSIN
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Don't mind either way. I'm OK with what I've got but I'd still gladly get in line for new systems.
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#15 communistcat
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Nintendo needs to, since the wii is so much weaker than other consoles right now and is extremely gimicky. I would also like to see Sony and Microsoft releasing new consoles... I don't feel like waiting for devs to find the 'full potential' in currernt gen consoles.

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#16 PAL360
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In about a year and half, yes.

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#17 Badosh
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2013, i hope. Not until then.
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#18 crimsonman1245
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Heck no.

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#19 balfe1990
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I'm happy either way.

The consoles are straining to produce graphics that can still wow us while the PC darts on ahead in lightspeed and makes a mockery of the HD twins in the process.

I don't like the fact that developers have to sacrifice certain parts of a game in order for it to run smoothly, look better, have more robust features etc.

On the other hand, I don't think now would be a particularly financially viable time for MS and Sony to be releasing expensive next-gen hardware. Alot of people are already strapped for cash and that could lead to the new consoles falling flat on their faces.

As I said, either way is fine with me. I predict Holiday 2012 for a new MS console. Kinect will have been out for two whole years then. A 2012 release also explains the lack of any exclusive games announced for that year.

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#20 JigglyWiggly_
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It's been like 6 years, hurry up already for reals. I dun care about poor non gamer people.
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#21 AutoPilotOn
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I really dont understand the people who dont want a new system sooner rather than later.... I know I still wouldn't want to game on my 6 old PC. I'd love something new.
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#22 garrett_daniels
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This generation is clearly drawing to a close. Look at how many big releases publishers are trying to squeeze into 2011; a record number of sequels are landing this year but there's little confirmed for 2012. Kinect and Move they are clearly just last-minute cash-grabs to buy time for the new hardware to be ready.

These signs indicate that at least least one player will announce a new console in 2012 or possibly late 2011, but of course they will all deny this until then and continue spouting nonsense about their ten-year strategies and so forth (conveniently concealing the fact that the PS2's ten-year strategy involved being sold alongside the PS3 for several of those years).

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#23 deactivated-5ac102a4472fe
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It is about time in my mind.

The consoles have long since been spent, and it has for some time been "who can cut most corners in order to make good visuals" and not a "unused potential" thing we are seeing now.

its been 6 years, I would not want any kind of technology to stagnate for much longer then that.

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#24 melvz99
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yeah its true that 6 yrs is a bit long now for a console,but the question is, is the market ready to accept it considering the financial struggle these days? If the new console will cost at about $299,maybe d market can accept it.but lets hope that the new console is a night and day compariSon vs current gen consoles..honestly,from last gen to current gen (ps2 to ps3)is not a night and day comparison. I think its just a night and afternoon comparison. the biggest i leap in console gen shift was the ps1 to ps2 shift.
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#25 Warhawk_
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I will be ready for a new console if it actually adds something new to their games instead of just better graphics.

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#26 Inconsistancy
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-Looks at UC3 and Gears 3, then looks at The Witcher 2- Yes.

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Looks at Samaritan demo, then at TW2, no let's wait 'til that can be done in real time on the consoles :cry:
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#27 Kickinurass
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Nope. Devs are hitting the graphical ceiling of consoles, meaning they'll hopefully start making better design decisions instead off increasing the graphics or tacking on a subpar multiplayer component.

If we got new consoles now, mostly all we'd see is prettier games with the same glaring flaws that are evident this gen (Limited to no physics, laughable AI, etc)

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#28 TheAcountantMan
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Yes we actually, current gen consoles are really out of date especially the PS3.
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#29 KBFloYd
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wii2 2012...mark it down.

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#30 JuarN18
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Games can't be more expensive (developing wise), i'm happy with delaying next gen one year or more

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#31 BakedDank420
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Not for a while

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#32 eboyishere
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-Looks at UC3 and Gears 3, then looks at The Witcher 2- Yes.

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agreed....dont forgot bioshock in 2012 tho

i think that the consoles need to come out before the 10 year time limit.....but i give it as early as 2013/2014....

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#33 Cheesehead9099
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i say holiday 2012 is the best time for new consoles

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#34 sethman410
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No. There's still plenty of potential left for this generation. Besides, it's very unlikely because of the economy. So, why waste money already? Console prices are at medium, not too expensive or cheap yet.
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#35 EliteM0nk3y
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My wallet stills says no. Unless the new consoles are BC and I can just sell my 360's.
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#36 haberman13
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I say extend this generation indefinitely. Console gamers are happy with the games, so why create a new round of hardware?

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#37 Vari3ty
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I think it easily is, I always thought a few years ago that 2011 would be the release of the first console for the new gen. That's a 6 year period which is very standard. There needs to be a new console by next year because the technology gap between consoles and PC is just getting ridiculous and keeps on growing. I don't remember PC's absolutely slaughtering the old gen consoles like they do now. Technology just advances so much faster now than it use to I guess.-RocBoys9489-

People need to stop stressing this "technology gap" and graphics and actually start focusing on the games. Look at development costs - they're sky high. Tell me which you prefer - fewer new IPs and more staleness with good graphics, or new IPs with not so great, but still acceptable graphics? I'd take the latter, everytime. People who keep arguing for graphics and keep screaming about "outdated tech" need to wake up and realize as games get more expensive, the fewer risks devs and publishers will take.

Nothing against you, RocBoys - you made a good point about technology moving faster. I just had to rant a little bit. But nonetheless, games keep getting more expensive, so something's got to give.

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#38 crimsonman1245
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I say extend this generation indefinitely. Console gamers are happy with the games, so why create a new round of hardware?

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You wish lol.

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#39 Vari3ty
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This generation is clearly drawing to a close. Look at how many big releases publishers are trying to squeeze into 2011; a record number of sequels are landing this year but there's little confirmed for 2012. Kinect and Move they are clearly just last-minute cash-grabs to buy time for the new hardware to be ready.

These signs indicate that at least least one player will announce a new console in 2012 or possibly late 2011, but of course they will all deny this until then and continue spouting nonsense about their ten-year strategies and so forth (conveniently concealing the fact that the PS2's ten-year strategy involved being sold alongside the PS3 for several of those years).

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It hasn't even been E3 yet man... give it a rest. Clearly there will be many games announced for the current platforms in 2012 in the coming months.

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[QUOTE="-RocBoys9489-"]I think it easily is, I always thought a few years ago that 2011 would be the release of the first console for the new gen. That's a 6 year period which is very standard. There needs to be a new console by next year because the technology gap between consoles and PC is just getting ridiculous and keeps on growing. I don't remember PC's absolutely slaughtering the old gen consoles like they do now. Technology just advances so much faster now than it use to I guess.Vari3ty

People need to stop stressing this "technology gap" and graphics and actually start focusing on the games. Look at development costs - they're sky high. Tell me which you prefer - fewer new IPs and more staleness with good graphics, or new IPs with not so great, but still acceptable graphics? I'd take the latter, everytime. People who keep arguing for graphics and keep screaming about "outdated tech" need to wake up and realize as games get more expensive, the fewer risks devs and publishers will take.

Nothing against you, RocBoys - you made a good point about technology moving faster. I just had to rant a little bit. But nonetheless, games keep getting more expensive, so something's got to give.

this. my wallet can not take a new series of consoles.....and im afraid of the price of them

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I really dont understand the people who dont want a new system sooner rather than later.... I know I still wouldn't want to game on my 6 old PC. I'd love something new. AutoPilotOn
well it only really gets prettier, so people that don't care and just want to spend money on games wouldn't want another system that does the exact same thing,
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I'm happy either way.

The consoles are straining to produce graphics that can still wow us while the PC darts on ahead in lightspeed and makes a mockery of the HD twins in the process.

I don't like the fact that developers have to sacrifice certain parts of a game in order for it to run smoothly, look better, have more robust features etc.

On the other hand, I don't think now would be a particularly financially viable time for MS and Sony to be releasing expensive next-gen hardware. Alot of people are already strapped for cash and that could lead to the new consoles falling flat on their faces.

As I said, either way is fine with me. I predict Holiday 2012 for a new MS console. Kinect will have been out for two whole years then. A 2012 release also explains the lack of any exclusive games announced for that year.

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yet pc gets very few exclusives that push hardware. Graphics have gone pretty much no where since 2007 on the pc .

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#43 campzor
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no im happy with how the ps3 is doing.. no need for a next gen with so many games coming out this year..next year... maybe 2013 would be a good year to release the next gen consoles
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#44 haberman13
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[QUOTE="balfe1990"]

I'm happy either way.

The consoles are straining to produce graphics that can still wow us while the PC darts on ahead in lightspeed and makes a mockery of the HD twins in the process.

I don't like the fact that developers have to sacrifice certain parts of a game in order for it to run smoothly, look better, have more robust features etc.

On the other hand, I don't think now would be a particularly financially viable time for MS and Sony to be releasing expensive next-gen hardware. Alot of people are already strapped for cash and that could lead to the new consoles falling flat on their faces.

As I said, either way is fine with me. I predict Holiday 2012 for a new MS console. Kinect will have been out for two whole years then. A 2012 release also explains the lack of any exclusive games announced for that year.

dontshackzmii

yet pc gets very few exclusives that push hardware. Graphics have gone pretty much no where since 2007 on the pc .

I disagree: Stalker CoP + complete mod, JC2, Shogun 2, Metro 2033, Arma 2, Dow2, BC2 are all better than 2007 games (except modded Crysis).

PC has absolutely advanced.

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#45 ShadowDeathX
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Yes. My darn phone has more RAM then a Console. Geez...
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#46 mitu123
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Yes, consoles are far beyond outdated.

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#47 deactivated-5e0e425ee91d8
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They are all going to stretch it out as long as possible, Sony and MS want to suck as much profit out as they can
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#48 slimjimbadboy
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They are all going to stretch it out as long as possible, Sony and MS want to suck as much profit out as they candarkspineslayer

I'm not surprised with the increased costs of the jump in hardware from the previous generation to this. I seriously doubt there will be a big jump from current gen consoles to the next with whats available now, other than the Wii, that will be cost efficient.

Nintendo made a statement with their system imo, how long did it take the 360 or ps3 to catch up in units sold?

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#49 PandaBear86
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Wii 2 = 2012 Xbox 720 = 2013 PS4 = 2014 That would be good enough for me.
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#50 jerkface96
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I wouldnt mind having these consoles for about 8-10 more years.

Hell The graphics seems to be getting better and better, and many things can be improved just by patches. Im perfectly content with my systems.