is it fair to say we've seen some role reversal this gen from the 360 & PS3?

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#1 jack_michael
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with the 360 being the console thats a safe buy, you'll get your fair share of multi-plats with a good healthy amout of exclusives - just like the ps2. then there the (alleged) powerhouse of the ps3 with all these features and a few exclusive niche games, whilst getting those multi-plats - like the 360.

what do you think?

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yep 360 is the new PS2
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with the 360 being the console thats a safe buy, you'll get your fair share of multi-plats with a good healthy amout of exclusives - just like the ps2. then there the (alleged) powerhouse of the ps3 with all these features and a few exclusive niche games, whilst getting those multi-plats - like the original Xbox.

what do you think?

jack_michael

Fixed it for ya.

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i find it interesting that the PS3 seems to be turning in to the shooter console while the 360 seems to be the RPG console
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i find it interesting that the PS3 seems to be turning in to the shooter console while the 360 seems to be the RPG consolest1ka

I know :(.

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i find it interesting that the PS3 seems to be turning in to the shooter console while the 360 seems to be the RPG consolest1ka

That just not true. You have to be bias to even think this. 360 is still the best in shooters, and now best in RPGs.

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[QUOTE="st1ka"]i find it interesting that the PS3 seems to be turning in to the shooter console while the 360 seems to be the RPG consoleistreakforfood

I know :(.

let me guess... your a shooter fan and now youre sad because all these games are comming to the PS3?

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[QUOTE="st1ka"]i find it interesting that the PS3 seems to be turning in to the shooter console while the 360 seems to be the RPG consoleistreakforfood

I know :(.

Sony is going on brand loyalty alone at this point.

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#9 Shenmue_Jehuty
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yep 360 is the new PS2johnnyblazed88

I couldn't have said it better myself.

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[QUOTE="st1ka"]i find it interesting that the PS3 seems to be turning in to the shooter console while the 360 seems to be the RPG consoleDragonFlyJ

That just not true. You have to be bias to even think this. 360 is still the best in shooters, and now best in RPGs.

however the PS3 seems to have an impressive array upcoming shooters more so than the 360 from my point of view

but yes the 360 is still the shooter king due to its back catalog, hopefully epic and bungie will be able to help the 360 hold this tittle

oh and halo chronicles as well

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one thing that made the ps2 unique was it was the only system to get that one game and its first party was good. not seeing that with the 360, ms is doing a good job buying sony exclusives but in the long run will it help. for example ms had dlc and launched on the same day as sony. they sold more software but not hardware. software was obvious because the 360 has more systems. ff13 can be bought on bought consoles so now it depends on which console has the best first party a consumer likes. i would agree if ms was actually stealing games from the ps3 but all its doing is sharing with the ps3.
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yep 360 is the new PS2johnnyblazed88

wrong, the wii is the new ps2. The 360 will never break 35 million units.

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one thing that made the ps2 unique was it was the only system to get that one game and its first party was good. not seeing that with the 360, ms is doing a good job buying sony exclusives but in the long run will it help. for example ms had dlc and launched on the same day as sony. they sold more software but not hardware. software was obvious because the 360 has more systems. ff13 can be bought on bought consoles so now it depends on which console has the best first party a consumer likes. i would agree if ms was actually stealing games from the ps3 but all its doing is sharing with the ps3.sireclaborn

Forza : AAA on gamerankings

Halo 3: AAA on game rankings

Perfect dark, viva pinata, PGR 3 and 4, kameo: AA on game rankings

so id say thats pretty good

[QUOTE="johnnyblazed88"]yep 360 is the new PS2slickchris7777

wrong, the wii is the new ps2. The 360 will never break 35 million units.

he means from a games perspective, i dont personally agree with this but it is the closest thing we have to a current gen PS2 right now

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[QUOTE="st1ka"]i find it interesting that the PS3 seems to be turning in to the shooter console while the 360 seems to be the RPG consoleistreakforfood

I know :(.

I still think the 360 still is a better shooter console. CoD4 is the PS3's best while the 360 has that to combo with Halo 3 and Gears.
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[QUOTE="johnnyblazed88"]yep 360 is the new PS2slickchris7777

wrong, the wii is the new ps2. The 360 will never break 35 million units.

2 1/2 Years to sell 15 million. No doubt in my mind that will happen.
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In the end it could be the 360 will be another want-to-be console. The thing is it took the PS2 a few years to really take-off and the PS3 was designed to last a long time on the market unlike the 360 which used older hardware technology.
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[QUOTE="istreakforfood"]

[QUOTE="st1ka"]i find it interesting that the PS3 seems to be turning in to the shooter console while the 360 seems to be the RPG console-GhostMLD-

I know :(.

Sony is going on brand loyalty alone at this point.

How is the weather in your mind GhostMLD? ...I'mma take a wild gander and say its clouded.

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with the 360 being the console thats a safe buy, you'll get your fair share of multi-plats with a good healthy amout of exclusives - just like the ps2. then there the (alleged) powerhouse of the ps3 with all these features and a few exclusive niche games, whilst getting those multi-plats - like the 360.

what do you think?

jack_michael
stopped reading right there. For me it is not safe to buy again until all the hardware issues are resolved.
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#19 Project187
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yep 360 is the new PS2johnnyblazed88
I wouldn't say that much remember the PS2's portfolio was more then just FPS's. 360 still has a long way to go. A few A+ RPG's is a good start but remember PS2 was a world wide success. 360 not so much.
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#20 IIJuggaNottII
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I dont know if its like the PS2 or nothing. I believe its kicking the dog crap out of anybody that steps in its way IMO.

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#21 Corvin
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Considering its still going so strong, I'd say the PS2 is this generation's PS2.
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[QUOTE="jack_michael"]

with the 360 being the console thats a safe buy, you'll get your fair share of multi-plats with a good healthy amout of exclusives - just like the ps2. then there the (alleged) powerhouse of the ps3 with all these features and a few exclusive niche games, whilst getting those multi-plats - like the 360.

what do you think?

hiryu3

stopped reading right there. For me it is not safe to buy again until all the hardware issues are resolved.

KINDA LIKE HOW FF WASN'T SAFE? LOL? am i rite?? LOL??

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Considering its still going so strong, I'd say the PS2 is this generation's PS2.Corvin

That's pretty true. Sony still claims that the PS2 is still running strong.

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Not even close the PS2 demolished the Xbox and the 360 is barely ahead of the PS3 now.
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#25 IIJuggaNottII
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Did you guys see the charts when the nintendo people were talking. I was impressed by the PS2 numbers, ironically...I just bought God of War II last night.
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I honestly dont think that the 360 is going to sell as much as the ps2, but gamewise it's the ps2 of this gen.

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Not even close the PS2 demolished the Xbox and the 360 is barely ahead of the PS3 now.wooooode

Barely in ahead of the PS3 now? WHAT? Are you kidding me? How long did it take for the PS3 to even "get" a game that could sell a console (MGS4 imo)? PS3 is still lightyears away as far as online......sooo XBL is barely ahead of psn? c'mon. Enlighten me. Please.

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[QUOTE="wooooode"]Not even close the PS2 demolished the Xbox and the 360 is barely ahead of the PS3 now.IIJuggaNottII

Barely in ahead of the PS3 now? WHAT? Are you kidding me? How long did it take for the PS3 to even "get" a game that could sell a console (MGS4 imo)? PS3 is still lightyears away as far as online......sooo XBL is barely ahead of psn? c'mon. Enlighten me. Please.

He is talking about sales. It's funny how often you can see two people argue about something here when both are talking about two different things. Just wanted to stop that from happening before it starts.

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#29 IIJuggaNottII
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[QUOTE="IIJuggaNottII"]

[QUOTE="wooooode"]Not even close the PS2 demolished the Xbox and the 360 is barely ahead of the PS3 now.TBoogy

Barely in ahead of the PS3 now? WHAT? Are you kidding me? How long did it take for the PS3 to even "get" a game that could sell a console (MGS4 imo)? PS3 is still lightyears away as far as online......sooo XBL is barely ahead of psn? c'mon. Enlighten me. Please.

He is talking about sales. It's funny how often you can see two people argue about something here when both are talking about two different things. Just wanted to stop that from happening before it starts.

Ahhhh, okay. I see now. I read what he typed and just saw red. lol.

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[QUOTE="johnnyblazed88"]yep 360 is the new PS2slickchris7777

wrong, the wii is the new ps2. The 360 will never break 35 million units.

Nobody said anything about sales, we are talking about games. Unless sales is a game.

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As of right now, no way. We'll see a couple years from now.
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[QUOTE="istreakforfood"]

[QUOTE="st1ka"]i find it interesting that the PS3 seems to be turning in to the shooter console while the 360 seems to be the RPG consolest1ka

I know :(.

let me guess... your a shooter fan and now youre sad because all these games are comming to the PS3?

Xbox360 has just as many if not more good fps games than the ps3. The ps3 only has cod4. XBox has this along with Halo 3. And its not like the xbox60 is going not get any more fps games they are going to continue to come in. Meanwhile the ps2 didn't have a single good fps game other than time splitters.

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To me it isn't a matter of which is better, but which company historically has been more reliable for me;

I've gone through 2 PS1 consoles because of the laser design, and 3 PS2 consoles for the same problen. Sony lost me as a customer for good. There simply is no excuse for the shoddy quality of their consoles.

I have a Sega CDX that is 15 years old, and never had a problem with hardware quality, my Dreamcast is 8 years old and plays flawlessly, my Gamecube never made as much as a hardware hiccup, my Xbox never gave me a problem until I owned it for 6 years, and my Wii has been fine. And I baby all of my consoles.

I don't care that Xbox 360 had a red ring of death; they have addressed the issue, offered extended warranties, and revised the chipset to cut down on heat.

To me, Sony dropped the ball when they stuck it to the owners of their consoles by waiting 5 years to change a faulty design (PS2 console).

I'll take my hard earned gaming dollars elseware.

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[QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"][QUOTE="istreakforfood"]

[QUOTE="st1ka"]i find it interesting that the PS3 seems to be turning in to the shooter console while the 360 seems to be the RPG consoleverbtex

I know :(.

Sony is going on brand loyalty alone at this point.

How is the weather in your mind -GhostMLD-? ...I'mma take a wild gander and say its clouded.

Its funny how Ghost hasn't responded to me yet. =/

But anyways, I don't see any role reversals as of now?

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Yes. For now.
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[QUOTE="sireclaborn"]one thing that made the ps2 unique was it was the only system to get that one game and its first party was good. not seeing that with the 360, ms is doing a good job buying sony exclusives but in the long run will it help. for example ms had dlc and launched on the same day as sony. they sold more software but not hardware. software was obvious because the 360 has more systems. ff13 can be bought on bought consoles so now it depends on which console has the best first party a consumer likes. i would agree if ms was actually stealing games from the ps3 but all its doing is sharing with the ps3.st1ka

Forza : AAA on gamerankings

Halo 3: AAA on game rankings

Perfect dark, viva pinata, PGR 3 and 4, kameo: AA on game rankings

so id say thats pretty good

those are good but people aren't running out and getting the 360 for them. i know the games score good but they don't make me want to get a 360. something turning people off when it comes to getting a 360. it sales are proof

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[QUOTE="st1ka"]

[QUOTE="sireclaborn"]one thing that made the ps2 unique was it was the only system to get that one game and its first party was good. not seeing that with the 360, ms is doing a good job buying sony exclusives but in the long run will it help. for example ms had dlc and launched on the same day as sony. they sold more software but not hardware. software was obvious because the 360 has more systems. ff13 can be bought on bought consoles so now it depends on which console has the best first party a consumer likes. i would agree if ms was actually stealing games from the ps3 but all its doing is sharing with the ps3.sireclaborn

Forza : AAA on gamerankings

Halo 3: AAA on game rankings

Perfect dark, viva pinata, PGR 3 and 4, kameo: AA on game rankings

so id say thats pretty good

those are good but people aren't running at and getting the 360 for them. i know the games score good but they don't make me want to get a 360. something turning people off when it comes to getting a 360. it sales are proof

What the hell? People were buying 360 for Halo 3! The game sold over eight million copies, it's the best selling game on the X-box 360. It's ridiculous to beleive no one bought the console for it. I know people who bought console specifically for the game. Hell, Crackdown sold one million copies largely due to it's Halo 3 beta.

And the early buyers of the 360 bassically got it for perfect Dark. It was the game people played till the library began growing.

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[QUOTE="st1ka"]

[QUOTE="sireclaborn"]one thing that made the ps2 unique was it was the only system to get that one game and its first party was good. not seeing that with the 360, ms is doing a good job buying sony exclusives but in the long run will it help. for example ms had dlc and launched on the same day as sony. they sold more software but not hardware. software was obvious because the 360 has more systems. ff13 can be bought on bought consoles so now it depends on which console has the best first party a consumer likes. i would agree if ms was actually stealing games from the ps3 but all its doing is sharing with the ps3.sireclaborn

Forza : AAA on gamerankings

Halo 3: AAA on game rankings

Perfect dark, viva pinata, PGR 3 and 4, kameo: AA on game rankings

so id say thats pretty good

those are good but people aren't running out and getting the 360 for them. i know the games score good but they don't make me want to get a 360. something turning people off when it comes to getting a 360. it sales are proof

Both Forza (mainly Forza) and Halo 3 make me more than happy to give my money to Microsoft for their console, among many other reasons.

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[QUOTE="sireclaborn"][QUOTE="st1ka"]

[QUOTE="sireclaborn"]one thing that made the ps2 unique was it was the only system to get that one game and its first party was good. not seeing that with the 360, ms is doing a good job buying sony exclusives but in the long run will it help. for example ms had dlc and launched on the same day as sony. they sold more software but not hardware. software was obvious because the 360 has more systems. ff13 can be bought on bought consoles so now it depends on which console has the best first party a consumer likes. i would agree if ms was actually stealing games from the ps3 but all its doing is sharing with the ps3.iceman34572

Forza : AAA on gamerankings

Halo 3: AAA on game rankings

Perfect dark, viva pinata, PGR 3 and 4, kameo: AA on game rankings

so id say thats pretty good

those are good but people aren't running out and getting the 360 for them. i know the games score good but they don't make me want to get a 360. something turning people off when it comes to getting a 360. it sales are proof

Both Forza (mainly Forza) and Halo 3 make me more than happy to give my money to Microsoft for their console, among many other reasons.

Any I'm not saying this because I'm a fanboy of Xbox. Honestly, I don't care who thinks what system has the best graphics. I don't care if people don't like the 360. I don't make any money off of the sales, they don't pay my mortgage and bills, and there is far better stuff to be concerned about besides which one "rulz more". Someone buying a PS3 doesn't affect me at all. All because I personally never would buy one (I've been burned too much by quality issues on numerous Sony products, and not just the game consoles), doesn't mean I think someone is dumb for buying one. Games are supposed to be fun, and if people enjoy playing a PS3, if they like the games, I think that's great. Competition makes the overall species stronger, drives down prices for us consumers, and it's a win / win situation.