Is it hard playing the console version of multiplats?

Especially when the pc versions genrally kick the console versions in the teeth. I just don't understand how you can fully enjoy a game when your playing a worse product.

You sound insecure.

Not at all.

If you are sitting there on a console playing a game and thinking how much better it would be playing on a PC and literally distressing over it, you need to completely reevaluate your life and get a new hobby.

Unless the version you are playing is completely broken, you're not missing out on much. In very rare cases the PC version is actually a better experience than the console version. Usually it's just the same. When I say better experience  I don't mean in terms of graphics and whatnot, I mean the general experience of the game.

If you don't generally play games on a powerful PC then you are not missing anything because you have no basis for comparison.

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Sometimes its hard playing the PC version of multiplats, bad ports that frequently dip from 60 to sub 30 for no reason on hardware that should eat them for breakfast is just depressing.

Nope, the console versions are generally pretty good from what I've played.

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If you don't generally play games on a powerful PC then you are not missing anything because you have no basis for comparison.

StrongBlackVine

Even with my PC I don't mind playing games on the console. They work and even at sub HD and 30 fps they play fine. Unless you have a screen right next to the one you're playing with that is higher resolution, higher framerate, and better visuals of the same game, it's absolutly fine.

There are a few games in the past that I say would benifit from 60 fps over 30 fps though. Ace Combat 6 is one that comes to mind. Playing the PS2 Ace Combat games and then playing Ace Combat 6 almost hurts becuase AC6 is at 30 fps and feel really sluggish.

Nope.

Sometimes its hard playing the PC version of multiplats, bad ports that frequently dip from 60 to sub 30 for no reason on hardware that should eat them for breakfast is just depressing.

SapSacPrime

i choose the console versions over the pc versions all the time.

there is almost always less cheating in the console versions of online titles and my friends lists are better on consoles, it also seems that i run into a bigger pool of people to play with than on pc most of the time.

grid 2 is bizarre in that on pc i always seem to see the exact same people playing.

i don't understand why this happens either.

in grid 2s case my theory is maybe they keep connecting people that live close together for an improved ping or something.

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GOGOGOGURT

LOL.

Probably a consolite in disguise anyway. Play w.e you like, if you have friends on console than on there and vice versa.

Still I rather play pc these days with a controller to the tv.

It's not for you to understand, is it?

Especially when the pc versions genrally kick the console versions in the teeth. I just don't understand how you can fully enjoy a game when your playing a worse product.

jimmyrussle117

Not at all.

If you are sitting there on a console playing a game and thinking how much better it would be playing on a PC and literally distressing over it, you need to completely reevaluate your life and get a new hobby.

Unless the version you are playing is completely broken, you're not missing out on much. In very rare cases the PC version is actually a better experience than the console version. Usually it's just the same. When I say better experience  I don't mean in terms of graphics and whatnot, I mean the general experience of the game.

Wasdie

Because as we all know things like performance/more AI/longer view distance NEVER enhance things like immersiveness and gameplay. And of course graphics never do anything for VIDEO games. Pretty sure GTA V Text version is just as good as the crappy version with graphics.

Because as we all know things like performance/more AI/longer view distance NEVER enhance things like immersiveness and gameplay. And of course graphics never do anything for VIDEO games. Pretty sure GTA V Text version is just as good as the crappy version with graphics.

Kinthalis

Sarcasm doesn't suit your well, you just sound like somebody who has a superiority complex with PC gaming. 

I've played dozens of multiplats and as I said before, only a very small handful of them actually were a better all around experiance on the PC. Mostly it ends up being exactly the same as on the console. In some cases it's worse because of the hoops you have to jump through. Bad ports, unnecessary 3rd party software, performance issues due to certain hardware configurations, always-online DRM, GFWL, obviously console-centric multiplayer, P2P connections that work even worse on PCs due to the more chaotic hardware configurations...

The list goes on and on. I've played enough console ports to know when it's just best picking it up on my console instead of trying to dick around with the PC version. 

There are of course some games I wouldn't dream of playing on the consoles. Just Cause 2 and Far Cry 3 come to mind. Games like Assassin's Creed and CoD are the exact same if not better on the consoles just due to how they were built.

Being primarily a console gamer when I see pc gamers spam excrellent images over and over of better versions of there games, I cut myself.

One day I will be able to afford a pc and learn what a cpu is, when this day comes I can join them, in the heavens.

[QUOTE="SapSacPrime"]

Sometimes its hard playing the PC version of multiplats, bad ports that frequently dip from 60 to sub 30 for no reason on hardware that should eat them for breakfast is just depressing.

GuNsbl4ziN

darksiders, resident evil 4, saints row, gta vice city, borderlands, dark souls, mass effect and  shadowrun were all pretty much infamous for being shoddy half assed ports.

they normally get fixed eventually either by official patches or by fan mods but i am always aware a huge console title can come out on pc and be the worst version.

it just happens when not enough time and effort is put into the port.

Being primarily a console gamer when I see pc gamers spam excrellent images over and over of better versions of there games, I cut myself.

One day I will be able to afford a pc and learn what a cpu is, when this day comes I can join them, in the heavens.

uninspiredcup

A good game is a good game regardless of what you play it on and if it has extra shinnies.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Not at all.

If you are sitting there on a console playing a game and thinking how much better it would be playing on a PC and literally distressing over it, you need to completely reevaluate your life and get a new hobby.

Unless the version you are playing is completely broken, you're not missing out on much. In very rare cases the PC version is actually a better experience than the console version. Usually it's just the same. When I say better experience  I don't mean in terms of graphics and whatnot, I mean the general experience of the game.

Kinthalis

Because as we all know things like performance/more AI/longer view distance NEVER enhance things like immersiveness and gameplay. And of course graphics never do anything for VIDEO games. Pretty sure GTA V Text version is just as good as the crappy version with graphics.

The crappy version of GTA V?

Don't you mean the only version? :lol:

The main thing I notice with multi-plats on consoles is that they are usually very blurry and run slower.

Not at all.

If you are sitting there on a console playing a game and thinking how much better it would be playing on a PC and literally distressing over it, you need to completely reevaluate your life and get a new hobby.

Unless the version you are playing is completely broken, you're not missing out on much. In very rare cases the PC version is actually a better experience than the console version. Usually it's just the same. When I say better experience  I don't mean in terms of graphics and whatnot, I mean the general experience of the game.

Wasdie

next time go play an fpsgame on your pc with controller, small fov, 30fps and come back to me and tell me you get the same experience :roll:

and i am not even talking about graphics.

It honeslty depends if you don't mind playing games with 30fps and dipping below including jaggies than your perfectly find

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Not at all.

If you are sitting there on a console playing a game and thinking how much better it would be playing on a PC and literally distressing over it, you need to completely reevaluate your life and get a new hobby.

Unless the version you are playing is completely broken, you're not missing out on much. In very rare cases the PC version is actually a better experience than the console version. Usually it's just the same. When I say better experience  I don't mean in terms of graphics and whatnot, I mean the general experience of the game.

MK-Professor

next time go play an fpsgame on your pc with controller, small fov, 30fps and come back to me and tell me you get the same experience :roll:

and i am not even talking about graphics.

I second that, the console FOV is pretty freaking horrible at times.

next time go play an fpsgame on your pc with controller, small fov, 30fps and come back to me and tell me you get the same experience :roll:

and i am not even talking about graphics.

MK-Professor

Why would I gimp myself like that? Oh you're trying to prove some asinine point. Gotcha.

On the console 30fps and a lower FoV works just fine. You are playing in the same conditions everybody else is. 

That said, I generally play FPSs on the PC over a console due to the pace and controls. FoV means nothing. I prefer higher FoV when im closer to the screen and lower FoV when I'm farther away, 30 fps is also fine with a controller given the input speed of a controller compared too that of a mouse. We need 60 fps on a PC just so the game doesn't feel sluggish. With a controller that goes away because of the slower input. However I wouldn't want to play against somebody with a mouse and 60 fps. 

When it comes down to the overall experience my point still stands. Playing a CoD game on the consoles feels pretty much the exact same as on the PC except the PC version is going to be a big faster online. The rest of the game, the menus, the way they integrate matchmaking, friends, theater mode, all of that stuff is clearly built for the consoles and actually detracts from the experience when playing on the PC. 

Generally I play FPSs on the PC due to my preference of controls, but the overall experience and quality of the game doesn't improve much, especially if the game was built for a console in the first place.

I second that, the console FOV is pretty freaking horrible at times.

menes777

Go sit 6+ feet away from your screen and try to play the game with a FoV of higher than 80. It causes motion sickness and shrinks everything to the point it becomes hard to see.

FoV is situational. You need higher FoV when you're closer to the screen and lower when you're father away. When you make a console game you have to assume the distance from the screen is going to be higher than on a PC so you have a lower FoV. 

It's just bad when a dev doesn't adjust the FoV of a game for the PC gamers. That's why ports have low FoV, the FoV is tuned for a larger distance between eyes and screen.

[QUOTE="menes777"]

I second that, the console FOV is pretty freaking horrible at times.

Wasdie

Go sit 6+ feet away from your screen and try to play the game with a FoV of higher than 80. It causes motion sickness and shrinks everything to the point it becomes hard to see.

FoV is situational. You need higher FoV when you're closer to the screen and lower when you're father away. When you make a console game you have to assume the distance from the screen is going to be higher than on a PC so you have a lower FoV. 

It's just bad when a dev doesn't adjust the FoV of a game for the PC gamers. That's why ports have low FoV, the FoV is tuned for a larger distance between eyes and screen.

Honestly, I find it hard to game on PC. I don't know why but I just prefer playing on consoles.

Even though my PC is plugged into a big arse screen, with an Xbox controller attached.

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

next time go play an fpsgame on your pc with controller, small fov, 30fps and come back to me and tell me you get the same experience :roll:

and i am not even talking about graphics.

Wasdie

Why would I gimp myself like that? Oh you're trying to prove some asinine point. Gotcha.

On the console 30fps and a lower FoV works just fine. You are playing in the same conditions everybody else is. 

That said, I generally play FPSs on the PC over a console due to the pace and controls. FoV means nothing. I prefer higher FoV when im closer to the screen and lower FoV when I'm farther away, 30 fps is also fine with a controller given the input speed of a controller compared too that of a mouse. We need 60 fps on a PC just so the game doesn't feel sluggish. With a controller that goes away because of the slower input. However I wouldn't want to play against somebody with a mouse and 60 fps. 

When it comes down to the overall experience my point still stands. Playing a CoD game on the consoles feels pretty much the exact same as on the PC except the PC version is going to be a big faster online. The rest of the game, the menus, the way they integrate matchmaking, friends, theater mode, all of that stuff is clearly built for the consoles and actually detracts from the experience when playing on the PC. 

Generally I play FPSs on the PC due to my preference of controls, but the overall experience and quality of the game doesn't improve much, especially if the game was built for a console in the first place.

controller, small fov, 30fps feel the same on pc and consoles don't try to pretending the screen size/closer or farther away to the screen is some how exclusive to a system...

fact is that you get better experience by playing a multiplat on pc.

"Playing a CoD game on the consoles feels pretty much the exact same as on the PC" :lol:    6-7 times bigger rez, max settings, constant 120fps, k/m, large fov is the same with the console version OK, what ever you say:lol:

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

next time go play an fpsgame on your pc with controller, small fov, 30fps and come back to me and tell me you get the same experience :roll:

and i am not even talking about graphics.

Wasdie

Why would I gimp myself like that? Oh you're trying to prove some asinine point. Gotcha.

On the console 30fps and a lower FoV works just fine. You are playing in the same conditions everybody else is. 

That said, I generally play FPSs on the PC over a console due to the pace and controls. FoV means nothing. I prefer higher FoV when im closer to the screen and lower FoV when I'm farther away, 30 fps is also fine with a controller given the input speed of a controller compared too that of a mouse. We need 60 fps on a PC just so the game doesn't feel sluggish. With a controller that goes away because of the slower input. However I wouldn't want to play against somebody with a mouse and 60 fps. 

When it comes down to the overall experience my point still stands. Playing a CoD game on the consoles feels pretty much the exact same as on the PC except the PC version is going to be a big faster online. The rest of the game, the menus, the way they integrate matchmaking, friends, theater mode, all of that stuff is clearly built for the consoles and actually detracts from the experience when playing on the PC. 

Generally I play FPSs on the PC due to my preference of controls, but the overall experience and quality of the game doesn't improve much, especially if the game was built for a console in the first place.

You're talking about your subjective experience as though they were fact. YOU feel the difference isn't significant. I feel it sure as heck is.

Regrdless, the facts are that PC tend to do the following:

- Perform better - which means smoother animations, more responsive controls. This affects immersion and gameplay directly.

- Include better lighting - Which improves immersion and allows the arti's strue vision fo the game to come out.

- Include more detailed objects and textures - same as above.

- Include more AI, better AI - From GoW 1 to Dargon Age, to a AC to GTA IV. More AI can add to immersiveness, for exampl: unlike in the console version of GTA IV where the world only semed to exist around you and for 1  block away, on the PC, the city seemed a lot more alive as the AI could be seen doing stuff off into the distance. On games like Gears of War 1 or Draogn age, the increase in possible AI meant direct and indisputable effects to the gameplay. LArger, more epic encounters.

- Higher resolution, higher Image Quality filters (AA, AF)/ FOV - Nothing breaks immersion more than dancing jaggies all over the place. And a large FOV is not only more pleasing to the eye, but it can play an important part in gameplay, as does higher resolution which in turs provides more detail.

Not ALL games offer everything from the above, but enough games offer most of the above that 99% of multiplats are, OBJECTIVELY better on PC.

Now, if you want to downlplay some fo these features, that's your taste. But simply claiming that because you don't care, no one should care is idiotic.

[QUOTE="menes777"]

I second that, the console FOV is pretty freaking horrible at times.

Wasdie

Go sit 6+ feet away from your screen and try to play the game with a FoV of higher than 80. It causes motion sickness and shrinks everything to the point it becomes hard to see.

FoV is situational. You need higher FoV when you're closer to the screen and lower when you're father away. When you make a console game you have to assume the distance from the screen is going to be higher than on a PC so you have a lower FoV. 

It's just bad when a dev doesn't adjust the FoV of a game for the PC gamers. That's why ports have low FoV, the FoV is tuned for a larger distance between eyes and screen.

Fair enough, can't say that I have ever gotten motion sickness doing that, but I very rarely ever sit that far away (habit I guess).  One of the things that I don't like though is not having the option to change it at all.  I know with some console ports you don't but with PC there is at least the chance of being able to (even through hacks).

You're talking about your subjective experience as though it were fact. YOU feel he difference isn't significant. I feel it sure as heck is.

Regrdless, the facts are that PC tend to do the following:

 

- Perform better - which means smoother animations, more responsive controls. This affects immersion and gameplay directly.

- Include better lighting - Which improves immersion and allows the arti's strue vision fo the game to come out.

- Include more detailed objects and textures - same as above.

- Include more AI, better AI - From GoW 1 to Dargon Age, to a AC to GTA IV. More AI can add to immersiveness, for exampl: unlike in the console version of GTA IV where the world only semed to exist around you and for 1  block away, on the PC, the city seemed a lot more alive as the AI could be seen doing stuff off into the distance. On games like Gears of War 1 or Draogn age, the increase in possible AI meant direct and indisputable effects to the gameplay. LArger, more epic encounters.

- Higher resolution, higher Image Quality filters (AA, AF)/ FOV - Nothing breaks immersion more than dancing jaggies all over the place. And a large FOV is not only more pleasing to the eye, but it can play an important part in gameplay, as does higher resolution which in turs provides more detail.

 

Not ALL games offer everything from the above, but enough games offer most of the above that 99% of multiplats are, OBJECTIVELY better on PC.

 

Now, if you want to downlplay some fo these features, that's your taste. But simply claiming that because you don't care, no one should care is idiotic.

Kinthalis

I've been talking about the context of this thread. I've acknowledged that those things make the game technically better on a PC, but the overall experience, in my opinion, isn't that different. It's definitely a non-issue if you don't even have a PC to compare too so for console gamers this is a complete pointless debate. How can one without a PC even have a reference on how it is to play a PC multiplat? 

Aside from the issues I've listed with console ports (which don't apply to every port on the PC but I've run into all of them at least once while playing games on my PC), I never said the console version was better because that's not the truth. However I am saying my opinion that the general experience of these games aren't much better on the PC. If you don't have a PC you're not missing out on these games by not having a PC. You're missing out on a lot of other great things but in general multiplats are about the same experience on everything.

wouldn't know since I play dem superior multiplats

Especially when the pc versions genrally kick the console versions in the teeth. I just don't understand how you can fully enjoy a game when your playing a worse product.

jimmyrussle117

I only play on PS3 and have never had any issues with games I've played.At the end of the day a multiplat on PC is the same game,a higher resolution and a few more frames per second means nothing to me when the games I'm playing are just fine on PS3.

I've played so many games on PS3 that have supposed to have been bad and never noticed any issues,guess I was too busy enjoying the games.:)

[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]You're talking about your subjective experience as though it were fact. YOU feel he difference isn't significant. I feel it sure as heck is.

Regrdless, the facts are that PC tend to do the following:

 

- Perform better - which means smoother animations, more responsive controls. This affects immersion and gameplay directly.

- Include better lighting - Which improves immersion and allows the arti's strue vision fo the game to come out.

- Include more detailed objects and textures - same as above.

- Include more AI, better AI - From GoW 1 to Dargon Age, to a AC to GTA IV. More AI can add to immersiveness, for exampl: unlike in the console version of GTA IV where the world only semed to exist around you and for 1  block away, on the PC, the city seemed a lot more alive as the AI could be seen doing stuff off into the distance. On games like Gears of War 1 or Draogn age, the increase in possible AI meant direct and indisputable effects to the gameplay. LArger, more epic encounters.

- Higher resolution, higher Image Quality filters (AA, AF)/ FOV - Nothing breaks immersion more than dancing jaggies all over the place. And a large FOV is not only more pleasing to the eye, but it can play an important part in gameplay, as does higher resolution which in turs provides more detail.

 

Not ALL games offer everything from the above, but enough games offer most of the above that 99% of multiplats are, OBJECTIVELY better on PC.

 

Now, if you want to downlplay some fo these features, that's your taste. But simply claiming that because you don't care, no one should care is idiotic.

Wasdie

I've been talking about the context of this thread. I've acknowledged that those things make the game technically better on a PC, but the overall experience, in my opinion, isn't that different. It's definitely a non-issue if you don't even have a PC to compare too so for console gamers this is a complete pointless debate. How can one without a PC even have a reference on how it is to play a PC multiplat? 

Aside from the issues I've listed with console ports (which don't apply to every port on the PC but I've run into all of them at least once while playing games on my PC), I never said the console version was better because that's not the truth. However I am saying my opinion that the general experience of these games aren't much better on the PC. If you don't have a PC you're not missing out on these games by not having a PC. You're missing out on a lot of other great things but in general multiplats are about the same experience on everything.

Pretty sure the guy with the VHS tape player would say the same thing about a DVD movie... until he saw the difference. PRetty sure the guy with a dvd player woudl say the same thing about blu-ray... until he saw the difference.

You seem to be arguing that since ignorance is bliss, consle gamers aren't missing out on anything, because they don't know that the PC version is objectively better, and what they don't know don't hurt them.

I suppose that's one way to look at it. But console gamers aren't stupid (for the most part), I'm sure discussions such as this one, and online videos, and game reviews that occasionally mention the superiority of the PC version has atleast, got some of them curious.

Ofcourse it is, if i've played the superior version first. Playing an X game at a vastly superior graphical quality and performance, then going to replay the same X game on a console will, bluntly put, be shit.

Ofcourse it is, if i've played the superior version first. Playing an X game at a vastly superior graphical quality and performance, then going to replay the same X game on a console will, bluntly put, be shit.

Lucianu

Last month I watched my cousin playing Skyrim on a the 360 and well I am glad that I can play on it PC.  Don't get me wrong it was still fun to play but I just kept seeing the imperfections.

Yeah, i almost cried, when i realised how superior was the PC version of Red Dead Redemption :twisted:

On a serious note. It's not about the fact there are a better version, but i do hate bad performance. Games like Far Cry 3, on consoles, were close to unplayable.