is it impossible to own hermits?

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#1 UserFrenly_Noob
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the only con i hear from consolites is the expensive arguement
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#2 SolidSnake35
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They use Windows. *giggle*
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#3 JPOBS
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Asking if its impossible to "own" the hermits then stating their achellies heel is pretty dumb.
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#4 twags82
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If we hype a game and it flops, sure.
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#5 Slurms_M
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Asking if its impossible to "own" the hermits then stating their achellies heel is pretty dumb. JPOBS

But what if it can be debunked or is just an exaggeration?

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#6 Spindoc_SEI
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Yes.
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#7 XaosII
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"Remember, nothing's impossible kids. But some things are just not very likely."
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#8 JiveT
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I guess you could own hermits if you dug up those old Crysis threads where they claim you could max the game on very high with a thimble and a bar of soap.

They don't hype games very much in here besides Crysis and that met its hype. A lot of them acted like the Witcher was going to be the greatest RPG ever but I think that met its hype as well. No one really hyped WIC that I know of but that got a 9.5.

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#9 thriteenthmonke
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Hermits were largely thought to be unownable, until Doom 3.

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#10 dracula_16
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I've done it several times. I guess people feel threatened when I post because they know I only post from an unbiased perspective.
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#11 ---OkeyDokey---
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its impossible, their intelligence exceeds that of the other races, however, they are greatly outnumbered, which gives us the upper hand in battle:twisted:
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#12 twags82
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I've done itseveral times. I guess people feel threatened when I post because they know I only post from an unbiased perspective.dracula_16

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#13 astiop
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Hellgate london. Not that much ownage, but still :p
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#14 blizzvalve
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No. Anyone can own anyone.
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#15 Slurms_M
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their intelligence exceeds that of the other races---OkeyDokey---

:)

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#16 Meu2k7
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Hermits were largely thought to be unownable, until Doom 3.

thriteenthmonke

That and Hellgate:London now.

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Ports?
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They can't be owned when they get more than 1 knock out exclusive a year. And when FPS games like CoD4, Las Vegas and GRAW outscores their Xbox 360 versions. When they don't have to rely on year old games such as World Of Warcraft or WC3.

When you show them the sales numbers of all the PC games vs the PS2 game sales and tells them that the fact that it's a lot cheaper to buy PC games and a lot more people have access to a PC than a console.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games

A great example. And no, don't give me that oh it's wikipedia that doesn't count. Well it does until you come up with something other that has MORE links than the bottom of that page. Hermits should suck it up and accept the fact that PC games aren't what it used to be. And no I'm not anti PC but I'm anti PC fanboys and graphic junkies.

When I think PC gaming I think back to the days of Diablo 2, Starcraft, Red Alert 2, Baldurs Gate, Grim Fandango, Monkey Island, Half-Life, Unreal Tournament 99, Tribes, Battlefield 1942 and more, not Crysis period....PC used to have awesome exclusive games.

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#19 dracula_16
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[QUOTE="dracula_16"]I've done itseveral times. I guess people feel threatened when I post because they know I only post from an unbiased perspective.twags82

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Check my posting history if you wish. I don't save every post I make on favorites obviously.

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#20 thriteenthmonke
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[QUOTE="thriteenthmonke"]

Hermits were largely thought to be unownable, until Doom 3.

Meu2k7

That and Hellgate:London now.

Yeah, thats the most recent example, but back in the day everyone always said that it was impossible to own hermits, and Doom 3 changed that.

Now, people realize that hermits can be owned, it just doesn't happen very often.

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#21 nintendofreak_2
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It's not impossible to own any group, some are just harder to than others.
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#22 ---OkeyDokey---
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[QUOTE="---OkeyDokey---"]their intelligence exceeds that of the other racesSlurms_M

:)

wait.....you're a hermit? seems like I have overestimated their intelligence :P

(j/k i love you slurms :oops: )

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#23 XaosII
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[QUOTE="twags82"]

[QUOTE="dracula_16"]I've done itseveral times. I guess people feel threatened when I post because they know I only post from an unbiased perspective.dracula_16

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I wouldnt waste my time. Almost every argument hes ever made no one's ever backed him up. Its just basically his argumnet vs 10 people. He might as well be the 2nd wok7.

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Of course you can't when they get more than 1 knock out exclusive a year. And when FPS games like CoD4, Las Vegas and GRAW outscores their Xbox 360 versions. When they don't have to rely on year old games such as World Of Warcraft or WC3.

When you show them the sales numbers of all the PC games vs the PS2 game sales and tells them that the fact that it's a lot cheaper to buy PC games and a lot more people have access to a PC than a console.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games

A great example. And no, don't give me that oh it's wikipedia because that's like saying that it shouldn't. Well it does until you come up with something other that has MORE links than the bottom of that page. Hermits should suck it up and accept the fact that PC games aren't what it used to be. And no I'm not anti PC but I'm anti PC fanboys and graphic junkies.

Gamingcucumber

Mate ... it says right up the top that its an incomplete list, doesnt show Far Cry for heavens sake which was quite a big game, selling 4 million, it has nothing of recent.

Your Anti- PC fanboys and thats all? basically means your a console fanboy choosing a side.

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#25 JPOBS
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[QUOTE="JPOBS"]Asking if its impossible to "own" the hermits then stating their achellies heel is pretty dumb. Slurms_M

But what if it can be debunked or is just an exaggeration?

if you can build a pc that can run crysis on max for 399 then sure.

Otherwise, then too bad. The kicker with consoles is that they play the best games at maximum performance capable for the entire generation at low prices. Hermits can dodge around with "but teh mid-low settings" all they want but that defeats the purpose now doesnt it.

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#26 ---OkeyDokey---
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It's not impossible to own any group, some are just harder to than others.nintendofreak_2

cows own themselves most of the time :P

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#27 locopatho
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You can always scream "No fighter's and no platformers(I think?)! La La La!"(Covers ears) :P

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#28 Slurms_M
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[QUOTE="Slurms_M"]

[QUOTE="---OkeyDokey---"]their intelligence exceeds that of the other races---OkeyDokey---

:)

wait.....you're a hermit? seems like I have overestimated their intelligence :P

(j/k i love you slurms :oops: )

im completely unbiased

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#29 Meu2k7
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[QUOTE="twags82"]

[QUOTE="dracula_16"]I've done itseveral times. I guess people feel threatened when I post because they know I only post from an unbiased perspective.dracula_16

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Check my posting history if you wish. I don't save every post I make on favorites obviously.

I think everyone can safely say by now that your as credible as Jack Thompson.

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#30 Slurms_M
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[QUOTE="Slurms_M"]

[QUOTE="JPOBS"]Asking if its impossible to "own" the hermits then stating their achellies heel is pretty dumb. JPOBS

But what if it can be debunked or is just an exaggeration?

if you can build a pc that can run crysis on max for 399 then sure.

Otherwise, then too bad. The kicker with consoles is that they play the best games at maximum performance capable for the entire generation at low prices. Hermits can dodge around with "but teh mid-low settings" all they want but that defeats the purpose now doesnt it.

What if mid settings beats out consoles graphically? (They do)

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#31 Polaris_choice
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Um its just as likely as any other fanboy class. For some reason I find it funny they want to pat themselves on the back a little more then everybody else I really dont get it.
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#32 dracula_16
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I wouldnt waste my time. Almost every argument hes ever made no one's ever backed him up. Its just basically his argumnet vs 10 people. He might as well be the 2nd wok7.

XaosII

It is amusing that you think you know me. If you did, you would know that I'm a reasonable guy. I don't think I'm correct all the time.

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#33 Polaris_choice
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[QUOTE="JPOBS"][QUOTE="Slurms_M"]

[QUOTE="JPOBS"]Asking if its impossible to "own" the hermits then stating their achellies heel is pretty dumb. Slurms_M

But what if it can be debunked or is just an exaggeration?

if you can build a pc that can run crysis on max for 399 then sure.

Otherwise, then too bad. The kicker with consoles is that they play the best games at maximum performance capable for the entire generation at low prices. Hermits can dodge around with "but teh mid-low settings" all they want but that defeats the purpose now doesnt it.

What if mid settings beats out consoles graphically? (They do)

The game doesnt beat every game on console at mid settings sorry not even close and no you cant build a 400 dollar rig to run it smoothly at mid settings as every benchmark shows.

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#34 twags82
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[QUOTE="Slurms_M"]

[QUOTE="JPOBS"]Asking if its impossible to "own" the hermits then stating their achellies heel is pretty dumb. JPOBS

But what if it can be debunked or is just an exaggeration?

if you can build a pc that can run crysis on max for 399 then sure.

Otherwise, then too bad. The kicker with consoles is that they play the best games at maximum performance capable for the entire generation at low prices. Hermits can dodge around with "but teh mid-low settings" all they want but that defeats the purpose now doesnt it.

Unfortunately, with the price argument we always bring up the price of the HDTV for yournext-gen graphics. Then you talk about how the HDTV is used for things besides gaming, then we talk about how PC's do other things then games, then the viscious pinch-fest begins.

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#35 molinex
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i still remember when DOOM 3 4 the PC was reviewed :lol:

good times............. gooooood times !!!!:)

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Of course you can't when they get more than 1 knock out exclusive a year. And when FPS games like CoD4, Las Vegas and GRAW outscores their Xbox 360 versions. When they don't have to rely on year old games such as World Of Warcraft or WC3.

When you show them the sales numbers of all the PC games vs the PS2 game sales and tells them that the fact that it's a lot cheaper to buy PC games and a lot more people have access to a PC than a console.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games

A great example. And no, don't give me that oh it's wikipedia because that's like saying that it shouldn't. Well it does until you come up with something other that has MORE links than the bottom of that page. Hermits should suck it up and accept the fact that PC games aren't what it used to be. And no I'm not anti PC but I'm anti PC fanboys and graphic junkies.

Gamingcucumber

1. That list is not only incomplete, but it doesn't count online distribution or revenue from MMOs.

2. Sales is the weakest ownage on system wars regardless of platform, usually resorted to when one has no other arguments.

3. Sales never made a game good.

*Yawn*

Try harder.

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#37 JPOBS
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[QUOTE="JPOBS"][QUOTE="Slurms_M"]

[QUOTE="JPOBS"]Asking if its impossible to "own" the hermits then stating their achellies heel is pretty dumb. Slurms_M

But what if it can be debunked or is just an exaggeration?

if you can build a pc that can run crysis on max for 399 then sure.

Otherwise, then too bad. The kicker with consoles is that they play the best games at maximum performance capable for the entire generation at low prices. Hermits can dodge around with "but teh mid-low settings" all they want but that defeats the purpose now doesnt it.

What if mid settings beats out consoles graphically? (They do)

if it does can it be done for 399?

plus throw in that certain genres obviously have their weaknesses on PC's and i'd conclude its not impossible to do own em.

You just have to be smart about it.

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#38 Zeliard9
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Um its just as likely as any other fanboy class. For some reason I find it funny they want to pat themselves on the back a little more then everybody else I really dont get it. Polaris_choice

Because we're arrogant and elitist, right? Stop crying. Console fanboys cry way too damn much. Lemmings don't pat themselves on the back? Cows, pre-PS3, don't pat themselves on the back? Sheep, and their "we're always #1 in sales", don't pat themselves on the back?

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#39 Slurms_M
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[QUOTE="Slurms_M"][QUOTE="JPOBS"][QUOTE="Slurms_M"]

[QUOTE="JPOBS"]Asking if its impossible to "own" the hermits then stating their achellies heel is pretty dumb. Polaris_choice

But what if it can be debunked or is just an exaggeration?

if you can build a pc that can run crysis on max for 399 then sure.

Otherwise, then too bad. The kicker with consoles is that they play the best games at maximum performance capable for the entire generation at low prices. Hermits can dodge around with "but teh mid-low settings" all they want but that defeats the purpose now doesnt it.

What if mid settings beats out consoles graphically? (They do)

The game doesnt beat every game on console at mid settings sorry not even close and no you cant build a 400 dollar rig to run it smoothly at mid settings as every benchmark shows.

Well what would you consider the best looking console game?

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#40 Gamingcucumber
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[QUOTE="Gamingcucumber"]

Of course you can't when they get more than 1 knock out exclusive a year. And when FPS games like CoD4, Las Vegas and GRAW outscores their Xbox 360 versions. When they don't have to rely on year old games such as World Of Warcraft or WC3.

When you show them the sales numbers of all the PC games vs the PS2 game sales and tells them that the fact that it's a lot cheaper to buy PC games and a lot more people have access to a PC than a console.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games

A great example. And no, don't give me that oh it's wikipedia because that's like saying that it shouldn't. Well it does until you come up with something other that has MORE links than the bottom of that page. Hermits should suck it up and accept the fact that PC games aren't what it used to be. And no I'm not anti PC but I'm anti PC fanboys and graphic junkies.

Meu2k7

Mate ... it says right up the top that its an incomplete list, doesnt show Far Cry for heavens sake which was quite a big game, selling 4 million, it has nothing of recent.

Your Anti- PC fanboys and thats all? basically means your a console fanboy choosing a side.

It sais that in most pages because things always improve. Also they list World Of Warcraft which was released the same year.

"Far Cry sold 730,000 units within four months of releaseand has currently sold over 1 million copies worldwide"

So I think that it's your 4 million sales that's more suspect buddy. Look at were the 1 millions sales numbers comes from? And who said I was a fanbot for not liking Hermits? I also don't like sheep, Cows, Lemmings, Hedgehogs, Wombats or whatnot. However, I do like Terminators.

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#41 Slurms_M
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if it does can it be done for 399?

plus throw in that certain genres obviously have their weaknesses on PC's and i'd conclude its not impossible to do own em.

You just have to be smart about it.

JPOBS

I'm not saying you can't own hermits. When I quoted you I was referring specifically to what you said.

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#42 JPOBS
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[QUOTE="JPOBS"][QUOTE="Slurms_M"]

[QUOTE="JPOBS"]Asking if its impossible to "own" the hermits then stating their achellies heel is pretty dumb. twags82

But what if it can be debunked or is just an exaggeration?

if you can build a pc that can run crysis on max for 399 then sure.

Otherwise, then too bad. The kicker with consoles is that they play the best games at maximum performance capable for the entire generation at low prices. Hermits can dodge around with "but teh mid-low settings" all they want but that defeats the purpose now doesnt it.

Unfortunately, with the price argument we always bring up the price of the HDTV for yournext-gen graphics. Then you talk about how the HDTV is used for things besides gaming, then we talk about how PC's do other things then games, then the viscious pinch-fest begins.

You dont need an hdtv though.

Arguably you wouldnt need max settings either but thats an arguement for another day. Could a 400 pc run crysis?

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#43 JiveT
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How can you throw in the price of an HDTV and not throw in the price of a monitor? It doesn't work as an argument. 360 can hook up to the same monitor I run my computer off of.
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#44 krunkfu2
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with StarCraft II coming out yes, it's impoossible to own hermits
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#45 Killfox
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I guess you could own hermits if you dug up those old Crysis threads where they claim you could max the game on very high with a thimble and a bar of soap.

They don't hype games very much in here besides Crysis and that met its hype. A lot of them acted like the Witcher was going to be the greatest RPG ever but I think that met its hype as well. No one really hyped WIC that I know of but that got a 9.5.

JiveT

Yeah but that wasnt us saying that. It was the devs. So no ownage there.

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#46 Zeliard9
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How can you throw in the price of an HDTV and not throw in the price of a monitor? It doesn't work as an argument. 360 can hook up to the same monitor I run my computer off of. JiveT

But I thought you all liked laying back on your $5000 leather sofas, staring up at your 50" plasma w/ surround sound?

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#47 twags82
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How can you throw in the price of an HDTV and not throw in the price of a monitor? It doesn't work as an argument. 360 can hook up to the same monitor I run my computer off of. JiveT

EXACTLY what I was getting at. It's right up there with the "sprawled out on my couch vs. hunched over a keyboard" argument.

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[QUOTE="Gamingcucumber"]

Of course you can't when they get more than 1 knock out exclusive a year. And when FPS games like CoD4, Las Vegas and GRAW outscores their Xbox 360 versions. When they don't have to rely on year old games such as World Of Warcraft or WC3.

When you show them the sales numbers of all the PC games vs the PS2 game sales and tells them that the fact that it's a lot cheaper to buy PC games and a lot more people have access to a PC than a console.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games

A great example. And no, don't give me that oh it's wikipedia because that's like saying that it shouldn't. Well it does until you come up with something other that has MORE links than the bottom of that page. Hermits should suck it up and accept the fact that PC games aren't what it used to be. And no I'm not anti PC but I'm anti PC fanboys and graphic junkies.

t3hTwinky

1. That list is not only incomplete, but it doesn't count online distribution or revenue from MMOs.

2. Sales is the weakest ownage on system wars regardless of platform, usually resorted to when one has no other arguments.

3. Sales never made a game good.

*Yawn*

Try harder.

I could copy/paste my first post and still prove a better point than you just did. PC games are still leaning on old games, they are still rated lower ( see ratings also ? ) than their Xbox 360 counterparts. A là Oblivion, Vegas, Cod4, Graw. Even though sales might not have something to do with quality all the time it often states the status on a company, genre or such.

Your the one who should try harder and come up with something else than a basic "I-know-better-than-you-because-your-not-me" response.

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#49 Slurms_M
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How can you throw in the price of an HDTV and not throw in the price of a monitor? It doesn't work as an argument. 360 can hook up to the same monitor I run my computer off of. JiveT

Thats what I do sometimes. (although it looks a bit better on an HDTV)

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#50 wooooode
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PC has more garbage dumped on it than all the consoles combined but a PC is in its own league where you can have complete trash next to greatness and no one cares.