is it just me or did GTA4 copied some features from saints row?

Saints row had the cell phone thing first, life like physics (car crashes and man flies out the windshield), free analogue aiming, walking into buildings without loading, auto save, hand to hand combat, pistol whipping, and lastly GPS navigational map.!!

What you all think about that?

i had a cell in vice city.... besides, who cares, teh industry moves forward by copying.

hand to hand fighting? you could beat people in pretty much every gta

Saints row had the cell phone thing first, life like physics (car crashes and man flies out the windshield), free analogue aiming, walking into buildings without loading, auto save, hand to hand combat, pistol whipping, and lastly GPS navigational map.!!

What you all think about that?

bigbon_basic

[QUOTE="bigbon_basic"]

Saints row had the cell phone thing first, life like physics (car crashes and man flies out the windshield), free analogue aiming, walking into buildings without loading, auto save, hand to hand combat, pistol whipping, and lastly GPS navigational map.!!

What you all think about that?

Dante2710

Yes. GTA4 'copied' alot from it. Doesn't maike a difference from how great the game is.

I heard they stole the idea of guns too!

EDIT: LOL at walking into buildings without loading. Rockstar made it have a loading screen in the last gen games because they didn't like you, it's not that the power of the systems didn't allow for that.

[QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="bigbon_basic"]

Saints row had the cell phone thing first, life like physics (car crashes and man flies out the windshield), free analogue aiming, walking into buildings without loading, auto save, hand to hand combat, pistol whipping, and lastly GPS navigational map.!!

What you all think about that?

Pietrooper

Yes. GTA4 'copied' alot from it. Doesn't maike a difference from how great the game is.

but remember that the cell phone & GPS was the main part of saints row, BUT gta4 got all the praises for it as if Rockstar thought of it all themselves!!! bigbon_basic

Although I do agree with the GPS system, GTA Vice City had the cell phone in it. SA might of had it too, I don't remember.

but remember that the cell phone & GPS was the main part of saints row, BUT gta4 got all the praises for it as if Rockstar thought of it all themselves!!! bigbon_basic

umm hello......Saints row basically "COPIED" everything from GTA3

"as Rockstar thought of it themselves"????? There would be no Saints row without GTA.

and vice city and san andreas had cell phones, GPS is the only thing saints row really pushed

[QUOTE="Pietrooper"][QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="bigbon_basic"]

Saints row had the cell phone thing first, life like physics (car crashes and man flies out the windshield), free analogue aiming, walking into buildings without loading, auto save, hand to hand combat, pistol whipping, and lastly GPS navigational map.!!

What you all think about that?

Dante2710

Yes. GTA4 'copied' alot from it. Doesn't maike a difference from how great the game is.

*cough*oblivion*cough*

Saints row had the cell phone thing first, life like physics (car crashes and man flies out the windshield), free analogue aiming, walking into buildings without loading, auto save, hand to hand combat, pistol whipping, and lastly GPS navigational map.!!

What you all think about that?

bigbon_basic

Yes, they copied a bunch of stuff from Saint's Row. It's pretty obvious that Rockstar devs have played Saint's Row from begnning to end several times. ;) I'm sure we'll get new things in Saint's Row 2, that won't be in GTA IV though.

Saints row had the cell phone thing first, life like physics (car crashes and man flies out the windshield), free analogue aiming, walking into buildings without loading, auto save, hand to hand combat, pistol whipping, and lastly GPS navigational map.!!

What you all think about that?

bigbon_basic

[QUOTE="bigbon_basic"]

Saints row had the cell phone thing first, life like physics (car crashes and man flies out the windshield), free analogue aiming, walking into buildings without loading, auto save, hand to hand combat, pistol whipping, and lastly GPS navigational map.!!

What you all think about that?

blackace

Yes, they copied a bunch of stuff from Saint's Row. It's pretty obvious that Rockstar devs have played Saint's Row from begnning to end several times. ;) I'm sure we'll get new thingsin Saint's Row 2, that won't be in GTA IV though.

yup......just like how saints row had stuff in it that GTA3 didnt, like bad and unfunny dialogue, crappy characters and a dumb story.

Ohh yes..also the theatre feature was originally on saints row!!! FTWbigbon_basic

That key gameplay element is completely stolen!!!

Seriously, if you aren't going to respond to any counter-arguments and just chill out in your own personal bubble, what was the point of posting this thread?

IF GTA4 GETS A 10 AND THEY ARE 100% ORIGINAL, THEREFORE SAINTS ROW2 SHOULD GET A 10 ALSO!!!! to be fair atleast!!!bigbon_basic

*sigh* I fell for the troll. I feel sad now.

Wouldn't you want things to be copied from Saints Row and vice-versa? Really, if the companies keep copying the best aspects of their games, then the winners are the gamers, because we get to play fantastic games. I hope Saints Row 2 copies the best aspects of GTA4, and I hope the next GTA copies the best aspects of SR 2. We actually win in this situation. Enjoy it.JonJonJohnnyJon

well im talking as far as people giving this game a perfect score!!

IF GTA4 GETS A 10 AND THEY ARE 100% ORIGINAL, THEREFORE SAINTS ROW2 SHOULD GET A 10 ALSO!!!! to be fair atleast!!!bigbon_basic

Have you read any of the replies in this thread?

or are you 8, and was saints row your first sandbox game??

[QUOTE="bigbon_basic"]IF GTA4 GETS A 10 AND THEY ARE 100% ORIGINAL, THEREFORE SAINTS ROW2 SHOULD GET A 10 ALSO!!!! to be fair atleast!!!tmatte

*sigh* I fell for the troll. I feel sad now.

ohh no..im not a troll!!! I bought my copy at midnight here in philly but as more i read about this game from people it seems a bit overwhelming...Dont you think?

Did GTA4 transend this genre??? yes or NO!bigbon_basic

was Saints row a crappy GTA clone??? YES or HELL YEAH

you tell me

[QUOTE="bigbon_basic"]but remember that the cell phone & GPS was the main part of saints row, BUT gta4 got all the praises for it as if Rockstar thought of it all themselves!!! Sgt_Grig

umm hello......Saints row basically "COPIED" everything from GTA3

"as Rockstar thought of it themselves"????? There would be no Saints row without GTA.

and vice city and san andreas had cell phones, GPS is the only thing saints row really pushed

those were my exact thoughts when i saw this thread but i scrolled down to make sure nobody else said it first and you did. tc is not too smart.

[QUOTE="bigbon_basic"]IF GTA4 GETS A 10 AND THEY ARE 100% ORIGINAL, THEREFORE SAINTS ROW2 SHOULD GET A 10 ALSO!!!! to be fair atleast!!!Sgt_Grig

Have you read any of the replies in this thread?

or are you 8, and was saints row your first sandbox game??

If originality was the basis for perfect score, GTA4 would not have gotten a 10, as there were 5 GTA games last gen for the PS2. Both SR and GTA borrowed from each other as far as I'm concerned. As far as your sig is concerned, I am a 24 year old owner of all three consoles, and I don't care about GTA.

I am a 24 year old owner of all three consoles, and I don't care about GTA.

bigbadboo

Yet you still take the time to come into a thread about the game and type a comment about it........:|

The "life like physics" in Saint's Row do not amount to the level of detail in Euphoria, which is used in GTA IV.

Rag doll =/= Euphoria

Click Here for a simple demo.

[QUOTE="bigbadboo"]I am a 24 year old owner of all three consoles, and I don't care about GTA.

Sgt_Grig

Yet you still take the time to come into a thread about the game and type a comment about it........:|

I came to see a discussion about how original the game is, as I find that there are many things it didn't invent. If I cared about it as much as you do, I'd be playing it right now... FYI, I returned the game today after renting it for five days. I want someone to convince me this deserves a 10. I thought this tread might help.

GTA4 has 100.00% reviews (metacritic, gamerankings, etc..)

how did Saints Row copied GTA4 again..?

I came to see a discussion about how original the game is, as I find that there are many things it didn't invent. If I cared about it as much as you do, I'd be playing it right now... FYI, I returned the game today after renting it for five days. I want someone to convince me this deserves a 10. I thought this tread might help.

bigbadboo

"someone to convince me this deserves a 10".......are you that sad, that someone has to convince you to like a game? wow. if you didnt like the game and would rather prefer mario kart, go ahead no ones stopping you.

if you read the posts in this thread you can see this series invented alot of things and those things are refined in this game. thats why it got a 10. they perfected a working formula.

and, the games been out for 3 days not 5.

and even if you played for 5 days and just rushed through the story, you didnt play the game to enjoy it. you rushed through it so you can come into a message board and whine about it so you can be "different"

GTA4 has 100.00% reviews (metacritic, gamerankings, etc..)

how did Saints Row copied GTA4 again..?

SHuN_G0Ku

cellphone, gps map, auto saving, not having a loading screen when walking into places..... /scacasm

actualy saints row copies gta.

gta was the first game to ever to have a sand box game let people steal other cars. the only thing saints row gets is the gps. other than that it isn't copied. vice city had a cellphone to answer somebody, vice city or san andreas had free aim, loading screen is next gen.

saints row copied gta.

[QUOTE="bigbadboo"]I came to see a discussion about how original the game is, as I find that there are many things it didn't invent. If I cared about it as much as you do, I'd be playing it right now... FYI, I returned the game today after renting it for five days. I want someone to convince me this deserves a 10. I thought this tread might help.

Sgt_Grig

"someone to convince me this deserves a 10".......are you that sad, that someone has to convince you to like a game? wow. if you didnt like the game and would rather prefer mario kart, go ahead no ones stopping you.

if you read the posts in this thread you can see this series invented alot of things and those things are refined in this game. thats why it got a 10. they perfected a working formula.

and, the games been out for 3 days not 5.

and even if you played for 5 days and just rushed through the story, you didnt play the game to enjoy it. you rushed through it so you can come into a message board and whine about it so you can be "different"

I meant that I returned the game early, after renting it for five days. I realize that I won't like the game, but I wanted to see opinions on why it deserved a 10. I don't want to be different by not liking the game, or I would post in the sticky "GTA SUXX, GO WII FIT" or some other stupid post. I feel a 10 should redefine a genre by adding things that will be used in games for years to come. I was hoping that I missed this, as I obviously didn't play the entire game. I am looking for information to convince me this game is revolutionary.

Had GTA3 received a 10, I would understand, as many games have emulated this formula and at the time it was groundbreaking. I just didn't get the same feel.

I meant that I returned the game early, after renting it for five days. I realize that I won't like the game, but I wanted to see opinions on why it deserveda 10. I don't want to be different by not liking the game, or I would post in the sticky "GTA SUXX, GO WII FIT" or some other stupid post. I feel a 10 should redefine a genre by adding things that will be used in games for years to come. I was hoping that I missed this, as I obviously didn't play the entire game. I am looking for information to convince me this game is revolutionary.

Had GTA3 received a 10, I would understand, as many games have emulated this formula and at the time it was groundbreaking. I just didn't get the same feel.

bigbadboo

this didnt get a 10 because it was revolutionary like GTA3, it got a 10 because it perfected and refined the formula GTA3 established. a great physics engine, Improved shooting mechanics, a great bunch of characters, genuine humour with amazing dialogue, 16 player online multiplayer, 4 player co-op, an amazing soundtrack and numerous other improvements from its predecessors.

this didnt get a 10 because it was revolutionary like GTA3, it got a 10 because it perfected and refined the formula GTA3 established. a great physics engine, Improved shooting mechanics, a great bunch of characters, genuine humour with amazing dialogue, 16 player online multiplayer, 4 player co-op, an amazing soundtrack and numerous other improvements from its predecessors.

I agree with most of those points, although I didn't find the dialogue that funny. Your responses are generally what I hear about this game, but it still is difficult for me to consider this a 10, especially considering all the performance issues. I feel the game was rated even higher because it surprised everyone due to the lack of footage shown before it was released. To me a 10 should innovate, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.