Is it just me or is Nintendo Really lazy and just don't care???

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#1 GoldenCry
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Seriouslly, It looks like nintendo don't even try no more...They always seem to be 2 steps behind since the cube debuted. The same continues with the Wii...Nintendo are just plain stubborn and don't care what gamers want....its either Nintendo way or the freakin highway. Look at Online, 3rd party support, Hardware...Nintendo Lack in all these areas and its 2007 people, and by the looks of it they just don't care and think they will do just fine with Marios and kiddy type games. Look at the games out now for the wii...what is there??? Kiddy trash, Anime stuff, Wiisports and more gimmicky rushed games based around the controller. What happen to Nintendos great variety of games they had in the Snes and n64 era?? Nintendo seem to treat Mature titles as poison...Seriouslly, WTF??? I don't hate them but Stubborn is what they are. They promised alot more, and yes i know its still early but its definetly seems like there heading in the same direction as the cube. Its better to start sooner then later, expecially concerning great titles and 3rd party support.

Hardware is another thing, Why didn't nintendo have both great up to date hardware along side the wiimote??? and don't give me the whole "its cheap" thing...cause we all know that didn't help the cube from failing. This way if they had added better "Nextgen" hardware they could of had more games..(ports) BUT NOOOOO! its all gameplay now. But did Nintendo think down the road??? How long do they expect this to last?? definetly not for the whole consoles life. Without better hardware (graphics) and more mature and decent titles..the Wiimote can only do so much untill people relize its getting alil old. Then they won't be able to rely on good graphics (which does effect gameplay)

Besides i'm sure many would of gladley payed extra for better hardware..right???

Just because the wii is doing good NOW doesn't mean it will continue...Its a no brainer that the New gameplay experience with the wiimote has people excited...SO its selling well. But in the end SOFTWARE is what counts. IMO, all i see good regarding games is the new Metroid prime and the new Resident Evil umbrella chornicles...thats it!

Just My opinion....what do you guys/gals think???


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Nintendo is making new gamers, well, that's their plan it seems anyways. It looks to be paying off too.
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#4 Boba_Fett_3710
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I don't understand your statement about the Gamecube. How was it behind with the cube? Just saying it was behind doesn't mean anything. As for software, it just launched a few months ago. I remember the 360 not having any good games except maybe Madden when it came out. At least the Wii has a plan for future game releases.
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[QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"]I don't understand your statement about the Gamecube. How was it behind with the cube? Just saying it was behind doesn't mean anything. As for software, it just launched a few months ago. I remember the 360 not having any good games except maybe Madden when it came out. At least the Wii has a plan for future game releases.

I didn't understand that part either. I guess he means software because it had better hardware then the PS2.
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#6 FearlessSpirit
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It's Nintendo. They don't want to go along with the competitors.

This is why this generation, I won't get all three consoles but just two. Since there are only really two I want to play any games on. But there are still people that don't care and want a Wii. Allot of people actually. So it works for them. Not for me though.
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[QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"]I don't understand your statement about the Gamecube. How was it behind with the cube? Just saying it was behind doesn't mean anything. As for software, it just launched a few months ago. I remember the 360 not having any good games except maybe Madden when it came out. At least the Wii has a plan for future game releases.



Err, it had more than just madden. Regarding the cube...its 3rd party support was shocking and online wasn't even there. So how WASN't it behind??? Yes the future....nintendo keep saying that...but where not seeing it. They had plans for the cube too, but look what happened.
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Just My opinion....what do you guys/gals think???GoldenCry

I think they're busting their asses as we speak, trying to release MP3, SMG and SSBB on 07. There is also going to be a lot of mature games on the Wii.

If the games are going to be good, people don't care that much of graphics. The PS2 is still outselling PS3 and Xbox360 in places. Not everywhere, though.

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#9 GoldenCry
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I think your opinion is lolable.
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What truth hurts??? Awwwww.
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If Nintendo isn't trying, imagine how well they would be doing if they were trying. In February, they sold more consoles than all other companies combined. your post is ridiculous
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[QUOTE="Plug1Plug2"]If Nintendo isn't trying, imagine how well they would be doing if they were trying. In February, they sold more consoles than all other companies combined. your post is ridiculous



Well DUH! its selling good now...i said that already. But you've got to be kidding me if you think this will go on for its whole life cycle, with its rate of good games. Like i said its a fairly new product it has many excited with the wiimote. The sales show this.

But like i said with its rate of good games and its lack of good hardware don't expect it to last....very long. Hopefully they improve.
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[QUOTE="Calkaimainer"]I think your opinion is lolable.
GoldenCry


What truth hurts??? Awwwww.

So now your opinion is the truth? Whose?
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Actually, aint the Wii going to get two mafia games based on some hit films? The Godfather and some other film, with a guy in a white jacket.

And according to the official Nintendo UK mag, they going to be uncensored. Then you got RE, apparently there will be some larry pervert game and I hear there is to be some very voilent game confirmed, can't remember the name though.

And they all 3rd party.

Then they give you a web browser, news channel, weather channel so the online aint completely useless but the weather channel is poor though.

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[QUOTE="GoldenCry"][QUOTE="Plug1Plug2"]If Nintendo isn't trying, imagine how well they would be doing if they were trying. In February, they sold more consoles than all other companies combined. your post is ridiculous



Well DUH! its selling good now...i said that already. But you've got to be kidding me if you think this will go on for its whole life cycle, with its rate of good games. Like i said its a fairly new product it has many excited with the wiimote. The sales show this.

But like i said with its rate of good games and its lack of good hardware don't expect it to last....very long. Hopefully they improve.

I bet you were saying the same thing a few months after the DS was released. The King is back. Accept that fact.
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#16 Boba_Fett_3710
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[QUOTE="GoldenCry"][QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"]I don't understand your statement about the Gamecube. How was it behind with the cube? Just saying it was behind doesn't mean anything. As for software, it just launched a few months ago. I remember the 360 not having any good games except maybe Madden when it came out. At least the Wii has a plan for future game releases.



Err, it had more than just madden. Regarding the cube...its 3rd party support was shocking and online wasn't even there. So how WASN't it behind??? Yes the future....nintendo keep saying that...but where not seeing it. They had plans for the cube too, but look what happened.

Don't fool yourself, console gaming last gen was a joke (if you've eve played PC). 3rd party support was good and GC got plenty of fantastic exclusives: RE4, Killer7, Viewtiful Joe, REmake, RE0, Batan Kaitos, Metal Gear Twin Snakes...The list goes on. It's all opinion but I would say Nintendo won last gen; GC made the most profit, had the best games (IMO) and had fantastic graphics. Also, PS2 didn't even hop on the online bandwagon until halfway through the gen.
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[QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"][QUOTE="GoldenCry"][QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"]I don't understand your statement about the Gamecube. How was it behind with the cube? Just saying it was behind doesn't mean anything. As for software, it just launched a few months ago. I remember the 360 not having any good games except maybe Madden when it came out. At least the Wii has a plan for future game releases.



Err, it had more than just madden. Regarding the cube...its 3rd party support was shocking and online wasn't even there. So how WASN't it behind??? Yes the future....nintendo keep saying that...but where not seeing it. They had plans for the cube too, but look what happened.

Don't fool yourself, console gaming last gen was a joke (if you've eve played PC). 3rd party support was good and GC got plenty of fantastic exclusives: RE4, Killer7, Viewtiful Joe, REmake, RE0, Batan Kaitos, Metal Gear Twin Snakes...The list goes on. It's all opinion but I would say Nintendo won last gen; GC made the most profit, had the best games (IMO) and had fantastic graphics. Also, PS2 didn't even hop on the online bandwagon until halfway through the gen.

Do you have a site or source for profit on last gen systems (Hardware and Software)? It would be nice to have in SW.
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Actually, aint the Wii going to get two mafia games based on some hit films? The Godfather and some other film, with a guy in a white jacket.

And according to the official Nintendo UK mag, they going to be uncensored. Then you got RE, apparently there will be some larry pervert game and I hear there is to be some very voilent game confirmed, can't remember the name though.

And they all 3rd party.

Then they give you a web browser, news channel, weather channel so the online aint completely useless but the weather channel is poor though.

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The second game is called Scarface, if you haven't seen the movie then you're missing out

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[QUOTE="PelekotansDream"]

Actually, aint the Wii going to get two mafia games based on some hit films? The Godfather and some other film, with a guy in a white jacket.

And according to the official Nintendo UK mag, they going to be uncensored. Then you got RE, apparently there will be some larry pervert game and I hear there is to be some very voilent game confirmed, can't remember the name though.

And they all 3rd party.

Then they give you a web browser, news channel, weather channel so the online aint completely useless but the weather channel is poor though.

FireEmblem_Man

The second game is called Scarface, if you haven't seen the movie then you're missing out

Yeah, everyone keeps telling me to see the film. I got it on DVD recently so I look forward to checking it out :)
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[QUOTE="GoldenCry"][QUOTE="Plug1Plug2"]If Nintendo isn't trying, imagine how well they would be doing if they were trying. In February, they sold more consoles than all other companies combined. your post is ridiculous



Well DUH! its selling good now...i said that already. But you've got to be kidding me if you think this will go on for its whole life cycle, with its rate of good games. Like i said its a fairly new product it has many excited with the wiimote. The sales show this.

But like i said with its rate of good games and its lack of good hardware don't expect it to last....very long. Hopefully they improve.

You're crazy. I know this cause you're the kind of guy that thinks everything Nintendo does is for little kids and you don't give it the time of day cause you're busy playing you're 4,000 dollar PS3 and drinking energy drinks, or whatever the devil it is you crazies do. The sales show what, genius? That the Wii is selling? Very astute. Here's something I've noticed, though the Wii isn't graphically superior and even though the online system is pretty flawed (apparently) people are satisfied with their Wii's. People of all ages are having fun with the Wii and stores still can't keep the system in stock. "The sales show this." And "rate of good games"? What are you talking about?!
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[QUOTE="BlakeBroussard"][QUOTE="GoldenCry"][QUOTE="Plug1Plug2"]If Nintendo isn't trying, imagine how well they would be doing if they were trying. In February, they sold more consoles than all other companies combined. your post is ridiculous



Well DUH! its selling good now...i said that already. But you've got to be kidding me if you think this will go on for its whole life cycle, with its rate of good games. Like i said its a fairly new product it has many excited with the wiimote. The sales show this.

But like i said with its rate of good games and its lack of good hardware don't expect it to last....very long. Hopefully they improve.

You're crazy. I know this cause you're the kind of guy that thinks everything Nintendo does is for little kids and you don't give it the time of day cause you're busy playing you're 4,000 dollar PS3 and drinking energy drinks, or whatever the devil it is you crazies do. The sales show what, genius? That the Wii is selling? Very astute. Here's something I've noticed, though the Wii isn't graphically superior and even though the online system is pretty flawed (apparently) people are satisfied with their Wii's. People of all ages are having fun with the Wii and stores still can't keep the system in stock. "The sales show this." And "rate of good games"? What are you talking about?!

a lot of wii owners agree with him, of course casual noobs wont give a crap if it has good online and they sure as hell dont know what nintendo promised for the console because they werent paying attention.. if your point is that nintendo has sold out and has now become the equivalent of popcap games with their own piece of hardware then i guess you are right..
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#22 Danm_999
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I don't think it's fair to blame Nintendo for what they've done with the Wii. They went full guns blazing with the GameCube in the 'conventional' console style, that is, they attempted to make a technically superior console. It did not go well. You honestly cannot expect them to try that again. Then, they see that the DS, using a feature which borders somewhere on dramatic innovation and gimmick, touch screen, technically inferior to it's rival, is absolutely destroying the market. Once this happens, how can you honestly expect them to follow the GameCube market model in the next generation again, when the DS model has been so freaking successful?
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Seriouslly, It looks like nintendo don't even try no more...They always seem to be 2 steps behind since the cube debuted. The same continues with the Wii...Nintendo are just plain stubborn and don't care what gamers want....its either Nintendo way or the freakin highway. Look at Online, 3rd party support, Hardware...Nintendo Lack in all these areas and its 2007 people, and by the looks of it they just don't care and think they will do just fine with Marios and kiddy type games. Look at the games out now for the wii...what is there??? Kiddy trash, Anime stuff, Wiisports and more gimmicky rushed games based around the controller. What happen to Nintendos great variety of games they had in the Snes and n64 era?? Nintendo seem to treat Mature titles as poison...Seriouslly, WTF??? I don't hate them but Stubborn is what they are. They promised alot more, and yes i know its still early but its definetly seems like there heading in the same direction as the cube. Its better to start sooner then later, expecially concerning great titles and 3rd party support.

Hardware is another thing, Why didn't nintendo have both great up to date hardware along side the wiimote??? and don't give me the whole "its cheap" thing...cause we all know that didn't help the cube from failing. This way if they had added better "Nextgen" hardware they could of had more games..(ports) BUT NOOOOO! its all gameplay now. But did Nintendo think down the road??? How long do they expect this to last?? definetly not for the whole consoles life. Without better hardware (graphics) and more mature and decent titles..the Wiimote can only do so much untill people relize its getting alil old. Then they won't be able to rely on good graphics (which does effect gameplay)

Besides i'm sure many would of gladley payed extra for better hardware..right???

Just because the wii is doing good NOW doesn't mean it will continue...Its a no brainer that the New gameplay experience with the wiimote has people excited...SO its selling well. But in the end SOFTWARE is what counts. IMO, all i see good regarding games is the new Metroid prime and the new Resident Evil umbrella chornicles...thats it!

Just My opinion....what do you guys/gals think???


GoldenCry


There's a short answer to your question

Wii will slowly die after a year or so and die after 3-4 years While the 360 and PS3 are still  alive and kicking.
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[QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"]I don't understand your statement about the Gamecube. How was it behind with the cube? Just saying it was behind doesn't mean anything. As for software, it just launched a few months ago. I remember the 360 not having any good games except maybe Madden when it came out. At least the Wii has a plan for future game releases.GoldenCry


Err, it had more than just madden. Regarding the cube...its 3rd party support was shocking and online wasn't even there. So how WASN't it behind??? Yes the future....nintendo keep saying that...but where not seeing it. They had plans for the cube too, but look what happened.

prefect dark zero wasnt speical name some other games on 360 launch. instead of seeing

online was for cube just Nintendo didnt say anything to public. also more 3rd party support than n64. had wii has more 3rd party support than gc. 

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...By saying that Nintendo has become the equivalent of "popcap games with their own piece of hardware" you are greatly undermining what Nintendo has done thus far. I don't know what console you're playing, but the game's I've played have been pretty solid. The controller works well (with the better titles) and isn't some little toy like a lot of people want to make it out to be. The Wii is sort of a work in progress since it is something different, but I don't think you can call nintendo lazy when their console is based on a motion sensing interface. Nintendo is just stubborn, they always have been. Nintendo doesn't know how to get its act together when it comes to online gaming, and yeah the graphics aren't great... but the Wii isn't meant to look like the 600 dollar PS3. Yeah, the online thing is disappointing (I honestly havent even kept up with it) but to say that because the wii lacks "good hardware" and it doesn't have a good "rate" of games it isn't gonna be around long is ridiculous. The games for the Wii have so far been better than those for the PS3, and the hardware is capable of producing decent graphics-sure, no where near PS3 quality, but since when are Xbox+ equivalent graphics ugly?
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the wii is a secondary console for commited gamers you cant have the wii as your primary console unless your a sheep because crap online really crap online, limited horsepower and how the hell am i gonna play indepth fighters and action games or MGS on the Wii?
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Nintendo are just plain stubborn and don't care what gamers want....GoldenCry


Hmm... I wonder why I have a Wii then... :?

All of your other arguments have been seen before... they really hold no water anymore...
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[QUOTE="GoldenCry"]Seriouslly, It looks like nintendo don't even try no more...They always seem to be 2 steps behind since the cube debuted. The same continues with the Wii...Nintendo are just plain stubborn and don't care what gamers want....its either Nintendo way or the freakin highway. Look at Online, 3rd party support, Hardware...Nintendo Lack in all these areas and its 2007 people, and by the looks of it they just don't care and think they will do just fine with Marios and kiddy type games. Look at the games out now for the wii...what is there??? Kiddy trash, Anime stuff, Wiisports and more gimmicky rushed games based around the controller. What happen to Nintendos great variety of games they had in the Snes and n64 era?? Nintendo seem to treat Mature titles as poison...Seriouslly, WTF??? I don't hate them but Stubborn is what they are. They promised alot more, and yes i know its still early but its definetly seems like there heading in the same direction as the cube. Its better to start sooner then later, expecially concerning great titles and 3rd party support.

Hardware is another thing, Why didn't nintendo have both great up to date hardware along side the wiimote??? and don't give me the whole "its cheap" thing...cause we all know that didn't help the cube from failing. This way if they had added better "Nextgen" hardware they could of had more games..(ports) BUT NOOOOO! its all gameplay now. But did Nintendo think down the road??? How long do they expect this to last?? definetly not for the whole consoles life. Without better hardware (graphics) and more mature and decent titles..the Wiimote can only do so much untill people relize its getting alil old. Then they won't be able to rely on good graphics (which does effect gameplay)

Besides i'm sure many would of gladley payed extra for better hardware..right???

Just because the wii is doing good NOW doesn't mean it will continue...Its a no brainer that the New gameplay experience with the wiimote has people excited...SO its selling well. But in the end SOFTWARE is what counts. IMO, all i see good regarding games is the new Metroid prime and the new Resident Evil umbrella chornicles...thats it!

Just My opinion....what do you guys/gals think???


Silvereign


There's a short answer to your question

Wii will slowly die after a year or so and die after 3-4 years While the 360 and PS3 are still  alive and kicking.

Hahaha, oh my god... you wish. I love seeing how the Wii's success makes Sony fans squirm.
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[QUOTE="GoldenCry"]Seriouslly, It looks like nintendo don't even try no more...They always seem to be 2 steps behind since the cube debuted. The same continues with the Wii...Nintendo are just plain stubborn and don't care what gamers want....its either Nintendo way or the freakin highway. Look at Online, 3rd party support, Hardware...Nintendo Lack in all these areas and its 2007 people, and by the looks of it they just don't care and think they will do just fine with Marios and kiddy type games. Look at the games out now for the wii...what is there??? Kiddy trash, Anime stuff, Wiisports and more gimmicky rushed games based around the controller. What happen to Nintendos great variety of games they had in the Snes and n64 era?? Nintendo seem to treat Mature titles as poison...Seriouslly, WTF??? I don't hate them but Stubborn is what they are. They promised alot more, and yes i know its still early but its definetly seems like there heading in the same direction as the cube. Its better to start sooner then later, expecially concerning great titles and 3rd party support.

Hardware is another thing, Why didn't nintendo have both great up to date hardware along side the wiimote??? and don't give me the whole "its cheap" thing...cause we all know that didn't help the cube from failing. This way if they had added better "Nextgen" hardware they could of had more games..(ports) BUT NOOOOO! its all gameplay now. But did Nintendo think down the road??? How long do they expect this to last?? definetly not for the whole consoles life. Without better hardware (graphics) and more mature and decent titles..the Wiimote can only do so much untill people relize its getting alil old. Then they won't be able to rely on good graphics (which does effect gameplay)

Besides i'm sure many would of gladley payed extra for better hardware..right???

Just because the wii is doing good NOW doesn't mean it will continue...Its a no brainer that the New gameplay experience with the wiimote has people excited...SO its selling well. But in the end SOFTWARE is what counts. IMO, all i see good regarding games is the new Metroid prime and the new Resident Evil umbrella chornicles...thats it!

Just My opinion....what do you guys/gals think???


Silvereign


There's a short answer to your question

Wii will slowly die after a year or so and die after 3-4 years While the 360 and PS3 are still alive and kicking.

I hope you are visiting church every Sunday to pray for this to happen. Because as usual its just wishful thinking.
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[QUOTE="GoldenCry"][QUOTE="Plug1Plug2"]If Nintendo isn't trying, imagine how well they would be doing if they were trying. In February, they sold more consoles than all other companies combined. your post is ridiculous



Well DUH! its selling good now...i said that already. But you've got to be kidding me if you think this will go on for its whole life cycle, with its rate of good games. Like i said its a fairly new product it has many excited with the wiimote. The sales show this.

But like i said with its rate of good games and its lack of good hardware don't expect it to last....very long. Hopefully they improve.

"Its lack of good hardware is going to hurt it". I love when fanboys use this argument. Why isn't the lack of "good hardware" hurting it NOW? The rate of good games for the Wii is plenty good, I'd say. It has a better library than the PS3, and its 1st year is shaping up better than the 360's 1st year (12 months wait for a killer exclusive, anyone?).