Is it really fair to complain about the games we're getting?

I tried to make a peaceful discussion about Chrono Trigger today, but the moderators apparently didn't like it because it wasn't controversial enough. I'm serious. They just want you to make controversial threads and admitted earlier that this was a dictatorship. Just wanted to make sure you all know.

Anyway, the EA spokesperson is right. How can you look at the sales figures and think anything else? I'm not a business major (I'm a psychology major), but not all games have a return, and since companies are businesses, they are going to analyze what does and doesn't pass. The best we can hope for are spin-offs from established series that extends into a different genre, like Mario. People feel more comfortable with what is familiar, so they are more like to buy into what existing IPs. You don't have to be a psychology major to observe that. It's ironic in the sense that they want to perserve the quality their dollar buys, but it also diminishes it in the future because then the same thing instead of change.

Look at Advance Wars: The first one sold about 60-70k units, and the second and third sold about the same. Instead of giving up, Intelligent Systems (developers of Advance Wars, Paper Mario, Fire Emblem, Super Metroid, Pushmo and Crashmo, etc.) decided to reboot the series. They gave it a completey new look and atmosphere, rebalanced the game, nerfed CO powers, alternated the function of units, introduced a completely new storyline and cast, etc. And it sold... about 50k. The sales were so bad, they didn't even release it in Japan, which is where it was originally made!

Now everyone will get mad at Intelligent Systems for rehashing Fire Emblem. You know what? They have to pay people, and they have to use money to make their games. So if they don't make money, they can't make Fire Emblem or Advance Wars. **** you for simplifying a very complex issue. People feel detached from the process of making a game because they are not involved in it. But after working on one game for 2-3 years, it is crucial if they don't make a return. It's not like the NES games where the process was much shorter, cheapter, had a smaller team, and there weren't as many established franchises out there.

It's on you guys. Complain about the next Call of Duty game and then go out and buy it, or maybe be at least consistent.

I tried to make a peaceful discussion about Chrono Trigger today, but the moderators apparently didn't like it because it wasn't controversial enough. I'm serious. They just want you to make controversial threads and admitted earlier that this was a dictatorship. Just wanted to make sure you all know.

Drasonak

it was in the wrong place. snes game discussion goes in the legacy forum. there are plenty of non-controversial threads here.

Why do you keep telling us you are a Phychology Major?

Mods please lock this thread. It's not controversial enough.

Why do you keep telling us you are a Phychology Major?

RyanShazam

Maybe it makes other people take him more seriously? Hm, he might be on to something. I'm gonna start doing that.

Why do you keep telling us you are a Phychology Major?

RyanShazam

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Why do you keep telling us you are a Phychology Major?

Drasonak

Why do you keep telling us you are a Phychology Major?

RyanShazam

It's the gimmick of that particular troll account, you know, they all have their own little saying or something that they put in every thread they make.

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Why do you keep telling us you are a Phychology Major?

Drasonak

lol, how the f*ck does being a psychology major make you an expert on gaming?

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Why do you keep telling us you are a Phychology Major?

Master_ShakeXXX

Maybe it makes other people take him more seriously? Hm, he might be on to something. I'm gonna start doing that.

Maybe lol Did I ever mention I play football for the 49ers?

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Why do you keep telling us you are a Phychology Major?

WreckEm711

It's the gimmick of that particular troll account, you know, they all have their own little saying or something that they put in every thread they make.

Word.

Also the use of the word 'neckbeard'.

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Why do you keep telling us you are a Phychology Major?

WreckEm711

It's the gimmick of that particular troll account, you know, they all have their own little saying or something that they put in every thread they make.

tl;dr. The fvck were you trying to say? What EA spokeperson & what did he say? Get to the point.

And b!tch please, if I have to pay $60 for a game, I can complain about it all I want.

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Why do you keep telling us you are a Phychology Major?

Master_ShakeXXX

lol, how the f*ck does being a psychology major make you an expert on gaming?

Shh, he's displacing his hurt feelings that he got a cake degree that's largely worthless under the doctorate level.

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Why do you keep telling us you are a Phychology Major?

Drasonak

It's the gimmick of that particular troll account, you know, they all have their own little saying or something that they put in every thread they make.

You should get a refund on that degree (If it actually exists), because it doesn't seem like you learned anything if you got that from that post ;)

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Why do you keep telling us you are a Phychology Major?

Drasonak

It's the gimmick of that particular troll account, you know, they all have their own little saying or something that they put in every thread they make.

Wow, watch out Ryan! He's using his psychology powers on you

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Why do you keep telling us you are a Phychology Major?

Drasonak

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It's the gimmick of that particular troll account, you know, they all have their own little saying or something that they put in every thread they make.

Master_ShakeXXX

Wow, watch out Ryan! He's using his psychology powers on you

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It's the gimmick of that particular troll account, you know, they all have their own little saying or something that they put in every thread they make.

WreckEm711

You should get a refund on that degree (If it actually exists), because it doesn't seem like you learned anything if you got that from that post ;)

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[QUOTE="Drasonak"] That's a nice way of saying you don't like me. Does that make it easy for you? To group the people you hate into a category so it's easier to disregard them?

Drasonak

You should get a refund on that degree (If it actually exists), because it doesn't seem like you learned anything if you got that from that post ;)

You get +1 troll kudos for including neckbeard in that:lol: Butthurt is a bit overused by other trolls though, pretty much completely watered down to the point of being a verbal pause on here. You can try again if you want? Or you can keep displacing your remorse over choosing a worthless degree plan, your choice :)

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Why do you keep telling us you are a Phychology Major?

Master_ShakeXXX

Maybe it makes other people take him more seriously? Hm, he might be on to something. I'm gonna start doing that.

Why do doctors hang their degrees on the wall? So people know that they have experience and perspective.

and admitted earlier that this was a dictatorship

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Why do you keep telling us you are a Phychology Major?

Master_ShakeXXX

lol, how the f*ck does being a psychology major make you an expert on gaming?

Now, I obviously didn't read through the OP with great detail, just skimmed through, but what I got from it is some nice corporate apologism:

"Those poor publishers, always buy their games, they're fully entitled to your money, just because they went through an effort to make a game!"

Sorry, nope. As a consumer, I can complain as much as I want, and pass on the games that don't live up to my personal standards. Not that I like complaining, but as a paying consumer, I have every right to express my opinion and praise or criticize the industry and games. I also have every right to buy the games when I consider the price appropriate, which means I'll almost never pay full price for a game...

If you are a psychology major you have surely chosen the worst forum on the internet to discuss your deep topics :lol:! Everyone here (including myself) are idiots. I mean who else discusses the superiority of video game systems lol? If you on the other hand is trying to find patients, then you have come to the right place :lol:!

Hello, It is fair tto cmplain especially with games that are soooo bad eg.DBZ kinect.the game makers are supposed to be professionals.ThePlatypus101

We had a lecture of how the UK goverment spent somewhere between £20-40 million on a3 year year software project to improve connection between fire departments, and the project failed.... thats right, up to £40 million of tax payers money. and this is quite common for alot of companies.