That depends on if you really care, PS3 has still outsold the 360 in sales per year. I know in the corperate world IPM or IPY "Items per month or year" are more important than total units sold. On a retailers side anyways. Microsoft is probably giving themselves Hi-Fives for being higher overall, while Sony is giving themselves Hi-Fives for being faster selling overall.
Its such an insignificant lead so I don't feel it really matters.
ActicEdge
You do realize we are in a forum where a .5 difference in score is what separates a good game from the worst thing ever made? In SW it will be anarchy.
This is about as significant as comparing the number of original Xbox's sold to that of the number of Gamecube units sold. The gap between the two was so small, so it really doesn't matter. Now, if the gap was something like 20 million or more, I'd say otherwise.
Its such an insignificant lead so I don't feel it really matters.
Fizzman
You do realize we are in a forum where a .5 difference in score is what separates a good game from the worst thing ever made? In SW it will be anarchy.
That depends on if you really care, PS3 has still outsold the 360 in sales per year. I know in the corperate world IPM or IPY "Items per month or year" are more important than total units sold. On a retailers side anyways. Microsoft is probably giving themselves Hi-Fives for being higher overall, while Sony is giving themselves Hi-Fives for being faster selling overall.Jynxzor
Butut xbox is gaining. They are selling faster now.
[QUOTE="blabbyboy"]Yeah and what were the release dates of each consoles again?SuperFlakeman
Yeah and who made the most profit this gen again?
Wait Sony lost everything they earned from PS1+PS2 gens combined. Ouch?
I'm pretty sure that both Microsoft and Sony lost tons of money this gen and last gen, so that also doesn't make a big difference. Now, of course, comparing these two companies to Nintendo makes it a big deal and a completely different story.
I still don't see why people even argue this. A more accurate way would be to analyse 360 sells from last year to ps3 sells of today. That would be the most accurate in terms of years to sells.
360 has become the new Wii, all about casual motion control games. 360 loosing what they built up the first years imo :P
jimmypsn
360 is champion of the hardcore and casuals now. It can be titled overall champion in my opinion.
Wouldn't overall champion be the PC? It has pretty much the biggest casual market and a HUGE hardcore base and has been around years longer then any one console?
This is about as significant as comparing the number of original Xbox's sold to that of the number of Gamecube units sold. The gap between the two was so small, so it really doesn't matter. Now, if the gap was something like 20 million or more, I'd say otherwise.Mawy_Golomb
Plus they both lost out to the world beating PS2. Same here, Wii is in the lead and it doesn't matter who wins since they'll just be second place.
Yeah and what were the release dates of each consoles again?blabbyboy
Sigh..... to be part of SW circa 2005, cows would have us believe that the PS3 would smash the 360 in a matter of months. Now fast forward to late in the generation, a head start (which, btw, is the PS3's FAULT, rather than it's DEFENSE) is what they would have us believe holds it back to merely being ON PAR. Unbelievable.
360 has become the new Wii, all about casual motion control games. 360 loosing what they built up the first years imo :P
Fizzman
360 is champion of the hardcore and casuals now. It can be titled overall champion in my opinion.
It is definitely leaning towards the casuals at this point.
Sadly, it is. We can only hope that it won't deviate too much away from core gaming. Otherwise, I'm going to be really worried about M$'s next console.
The gap started at 9 million IIRC, went to less than 3 million and grew to 3 and a half. Based on that it'll catch up to 360 later when everyone is drooling into their laps over shiny new PS4/Xbox 3 tech demos and we stop giving a flying rats bottom.
Microsoft had a whole extra year to sell the 360, take every 360 off the shelves for 2012 and let only the PS3 sell then get back to me.
specialzed
That would hardly be a valid comparison. That first year of 360 sales saw most of the gaming public holding out investing in ANY system in order to see all of the options on offer, and the PS3 NOW has a much deeper library than the 360 did year one.
The gap started at 9 million IIRC, went to less than 3 million and grew to 3 and a half. Based on that it'll catch up to 360 later when everyone is drooling into their laps over shiny new PS4/Xbox 3 tech demos and we stop giving a flying rats bottom.
Microsoft had a whole extra year to sell the 360, take every 360 off the shelves for 2012 and let only the PS3 sell then get back to me.
dsmccracken
That would hardly be a valid comparison. That first year of 360 sales saw most of the gaming public holding out investing in ANY system in order to see all of the options on offer, and the PS3 NOW has a much deeper library than the 360 did year one.
I think Xbox still has more exclusives. Check the list to see if I'm right. I think I am.
[QUOTE="Jynxzor"]That depends on if you really care, PS3 has still outsold the 360 in sales per year. I know in the corperate world IPM or IPY "Items per month or year" are more important than total units sold. On a retailers side anyways. Microsoft is probably giving themselves Hi-Fives for being higher overall, while Sony is giving themselves Hi-Fives for being faster selling overall.jimmypsn
Butut xbox is gaining. They are selling faster now.
Wake me up when they close the gap they lost to the PS3 until then they are not selling faster, they may have picked up but Sony is still ahead of them.
Microsoft had a whole extra year to sell the 360, take every 360 off the shelves for 2012 and let only the PS3 sell then get back to me.
jimmypsn
That would hardly be a valid comparison. That first year of 360 sales saw most of the gaming public holding out investing in ANY system in order to see all of the options on offer, and the PS3 NOW has a much deeper library than the 360 did year one.
I think Xbox still has more exclusives. Check the list to see if I'm right. I think I am.
Perhaps, but I'm comparing the PS3 now to the 360 in 2005.
[QUOTE="Jynxzor"]That depends on if you really care, PS3 has still outsold the 360 in sales per year. I know in the corperate world IPM or IPY "Items per month or year" are more important than total units sold. On a retailers side anyways. Microsoft is probably giving themselves Hi-Fives for being higher overall, while Sony is giving themselves Hi-Fives for being faster selling overall.Jynxzor
Butut xbox is gaining. They are selling faster now.
Wake me up when they close the gap they lost to the PS3 until then they are not selling faster, they may have picked up but Sony is still ahead of them.
I think its safe to say that no matter what Sony does the ps3 will not have a triumpt this generation...It comes down to one simple fact they will be remembered for the guys that 2 generations dominated then the following took 5 years+ to catch up to second place.
Kinect will be a monster this holiday. I'm gonna pick one up myself for Forza and other games. I'm pretty sure there's gonna be a price drop soon too. This is fantastic.
I think its safe to say that no matter what Sony does the ps3 will not have a triumpt this generation...It comes down to one simple fact they will be remembered for the guys that 2 generations dominated then the following took 5 years+ to catch up to second place.
WilliamRLBaker
There's no question, the PS brand has had by far the largest comeuppance. That said, it doesn't really detract from the fact that it's a great system that has given it's owners plenty of value.
Microsoft had a whole extra year to sell the 360, take every 360 off the shelves for 2012 and let only the PS3 sell then get back to me.
jimmypsn
That would hardly be a valid comparison. That first year of 360 sales saw most of the gaming public holding out investing in ANY system in order to see all of the options on offer, and the PS3 NOW has a much deeper library than the 360 did year one.
I think Xbox still has more exclusives. Check the list to see if I'm right. I think I am.
No, Sony owns more game franchises than Microsoft. I guess if you want to count a lot of the casual Kinect games, then it might end up having more franchises in the future, but that's not really saying much when it's struggling to offer more core IPs,. other than Halo, Gears, and Forza. It might be hard for a lot of people in the next console gen to buy another Xbox console because of this, even if M$ triumphs over Sony by the end of its lifecycle.
I think its safe to say that no matter what Sony does the ps3 will not have a triumpt this generation...It comes down to one simple fact they will be remembered for the guys that 2 generations dominated then the following took 5 years+ to catch up to second place.
dsmccracken
There's no question, the PS brand has had by far the largest comeuppance. That said, it doesn't really detract from the fact that it's a great system that has given it's owners plenty of value. Of course but the same can be said of the the 360 it gave lots of value and still does to its users.
The gap started at 9 million IIRC, went to less than 3 million and grew to 3 and a half. Based on that it'll catch up to 360 later when everyone is drooling into their laps over shiny new PS4/Xbox 3 tech demos and we stop giving a flying rats bottom.
jimmypsn
People here care. It's SW.
They need a slap. With a fish.
Here's your list, Xbox long overtaken in the spreadsheet battle:
[QUOTE="dsmccracken"] That would hardly be a valid comparison. That first year of 360 sales saw most of the gaming public holding out investing in ANY system in order to see all of the options on offer, and the PS3 NOW has a much deeper library than the 360 did year one.Mawy_Golomb
I think Xbox still has more exclusives. Check the list to see if I'm right. I think I am.
No, Sony owns more game franchises than Microsoft. I guess if you want to count a lot of the casual Kinect games, then it might end up having more franchises in the future, but that's not really saying much when it's struggling to offer more core IPs,. other than Halo, Gears, and Forza. It might be hard for a lot of people in the next console gen to buy another Xbox console because of this, even if M$ triumphs over Sony by the end of its lifecycle.
XBL is a big reason why MS is so successful. I know in SW people think its the most awful thing ever conceived of, but people do like Xbox live and see it as an incentive. MS has enough exclusives to lure gamers in. Game franchises are nice, but MS and the Xbox brand are going to do very well next gen assuming they dont pull a Sony.
[QUOTE="dsmccracken"] That would hardly be a valid comparison. That first year of 360 sales saw most of the gaming public holding out investing in ANY system in order to see all of the options on offer, and the PS3 NOW has a much deeper library than the 360 did year one.Mawy_Golomb
I think Xbox still has more exclusives. Check the list to see if I'm right. I think I am.
No, Sony owns more game franchises than Microsoft. I guess if you want to count a lot of the casual Kinect games, then it might end up having more franchises in the future, but that's not really saying much when it's struggling to offer more core IPs,. other than Halo, Gears, and Forza. It might be hard for a lot of people in the next console gen to buy another Xbox console because of this, even if M$ triumphs over Sony by the end of its lifecycle. funny how your logic doesn't seem to apply since Sony always had all those large franchise numbers yet more people still purhased the 360...Seems exclusives dont mean much to the real world like it does to system wars.
I think its safe to say that no matter what Sony does the ps3 will not have a triumpt this generation...It comes down to one simple fact they will be remembered for the guys that 2 generations dominated then the following took 5 years+ to catch up to second place.
WilliamRLBaker
There's no question, the PS brand has had by far the largest comeuppance. That said, it doesn't really detract from the fact that it's a great system that has given it's owners plenty of value. Of course but the same can be said of the the 360 it gave lots of value and still does to its users. Well... yes. I didn't state that for the 360 because it wasn't the subject of the "fall from grace" focus.
[QUOTE="blabbyboy"]Yeah and what were the release dates of each consoles again?Mawy_Golomb
Yeah and who made the most profit this gen again?
Wait Sony lost everything they earned from PS1+PS2 gens combined. Ouch?
I'm pretty sure that both Microsoft and Sony lost tons of money this gen and last gen, so that also doesn't make a big difference. Now, of course, comparing these two companies to Nintendo makes it a big deal and a completely different story.
If I remember right, MS lost $4 BILLION dollars with the original Xbox, so I don't think Sony will be too fazed by their losses, especially when the PS3 at least sells over twice as many as the Xbox did.
I think Xbox still has more exclusives. Check the list to see if I'm right. I think I am.
Fizzman
No, Sony owns more game franchises than Microsoft. I guess if you want to count a lot of the casual Kinect games, then it might end up having more franchises in the future, but that's not really saying much when it's struggling to offer more core IPs,. other than Halo, Gears, and Forza. It might be hard for a lot of people in the next console gen to buy another Xbox console because of this, even if M$ triumphs over Sony by the end of its lifecycle.
XBL is a big reason why MS is so successful. I know in SW people think its the most awful thing ever conceived of, but people do like Xbox live and see it as an incentive. MS has enough exclusives to lure gamers in. Game franchises are nice, but MS and the Xbox brand are going to do very well next gen assuming they dont pull a Sony.
Well, I don't know how owners that generally haven't been interested in the most emphasized M$ exclusives will care to buy another Xbox console again, especially those who were also owners of the PS3. Also, I'm hearing a lot of complaints not just from PS3 owners about the lack of good exclusives on the 360, but also from game industry veterans like Geoff Keighley, Jeff Gertsmann, and others. So, expect more hate towards Microsoft in the future.
I think Xbox still has more exclusives. Check the list to see if I'm right. I think I am.
Fizzman
No, Sony owns more game franchises than Microsoft. I guess if you want to count a lot of the casual Kinect games, then it might end up having more franchises in the future, but that's not really saying much when it's struggling to offer more core IPs,. other than Halo, Gears, and Forza. It might be hard for a lot of people in the next console gen to buy another Xbox console because of this, even if M$ triumphs over Sony by the end of its lifecycle.
XBL is a big reason why MS is so successful. I know in SW people think its the most awful thing ever conceived of, but people do like Xbox live and see it as an incentive. MS has enough exclusives to lure gamers in. Game franchises are nice, but MS and the Xbox brand are going to do very well next gen assuming they dont pull a Sony.
Yeah xboxLIVE is a great service, it have made online mulitplayer so easy. Hoped Nintendo learned something from it, would gladly pay to get a Nintendo "xboxlive service" for Weee Uuuuu
I think Xbox still has more exclusives. Check the list to see if I'm right. I think I am.
WilliamRLBaker
No, Sony owns more game franchises than Microsoft. I guess if you want to count a lot of the casual Kinect games, then it might end up having more franchises in the future, but that's not really saying much when it's struggling to offer more core IPs,. other than Halo, Gears, and Forza. It might be hard for a lot of people in the next console gen to buy another Xbox console because of this, even if M$ triumphs over Sony by the end of its lifecycle. funny how your logic doesn't seem to apply since Sony always had all those large franchise numbers yet more people still purhased the 360...Seems exclusives dont mean much to the real world like it does to system wars. This has been the gen of the multiplat. Exclusives have had less impact than ever, I'd say.
The gap started at 9 million IIRC, went to less than 3 million and grew to 3 and a half. Based on that it'll catch up to 360 later when everyone is drooling into their laps over shiny new PS4/Xbox 3 tech demos and we stop giving a flying rats bottom.
Floppy_Jim
People here care. It's SW.
They need a slap. With a fish.
Here's your list, Xbox long overtaken in the spreadsheet battle:
Unless we another big game like Dance Central, the Kinect won't be very appealing to the majority of its 360 owners. I predict a lot of people will be looking back at all the on-rails and kids games that the Kinect has to offer and laughing at them.
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