Is it the PS3 hardware, or SONY is a bit slow at development?

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#1 Mystery_Writer
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do you think SONY is a bit slow at development?e.g. Killzone 2, GT5, Home.., etc..

if so, what do you think the reasons behind that? i mean, whom to blame here behind all those delays?

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#2 njean777
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well for killzone i think they want it to be the best game it can be so they were willing to put as much time as they saw fit for it. As for home i think they are being to anal about it being perfect for release.
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#3 dream431ca
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Developers are working their A$$es of on these games. Slow development is part of the process when working on these games.
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#4 Tjeremiah1988
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I dont think Sony is good at making software while MS is because they have more experience in that field. Just look at Sonicstage for example. When sony tries to make something, it takes a long time, or when its out theres many problems with it.
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#5 ReverseCycology
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Both, plus arrogance.

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#6 verbalfilth
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Well, the most prominent excuse is that the ps3 is hard to develope for....which is true to some extent but I don't think its as bad as they make it out to be.

I don't blame sony on putting out games, but I personally blame the devs.

However, this is not to say that I'm too happy with sony's attitude lately either...its like they don't care...but meh what can you do? It's definately out of my control so I choose not to worry about it too much.

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I think sony may have announced these titles too early in develepment. The reason for that is because in 05 and 06 the had nothing great out really so they had to create some excitment so they announced these titles far too early and now it just seems like its taking forever to get here. Sony has mmade some bad decisions in the last 2-3 years seems like they are getting there act together now though.
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#8 Mystery_Writer
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However, this is not to say that I'm too happy with sony's attitude lately either...its like they don't care...but meh what can you do? It's definately out of my control so I choose not to worry about it too much.

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ya.. i don't know why.. but it feels as if SONY gave up on this gen.

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#9 Derek1177
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The PS3's Hardware is top stuff. Sony just trys to make everything perfect which can get kinda annoying. But it is worth it in the long run.
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#10 Rafinator
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I think sony may have announced these titles too early in develepment. The reason for that is because in 05 and 06 the had nothing great out really so they had to create some excitment so they announced these titles far too early and now it just seems like its taking forever to get here. Sony has mmade some bad decisions in the last 2-3 years seems like they are getting there act together now though. poopiVONpoo
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I think sony may have announced these titles too early in develepment. The reason for that is because in 05 and 06 the had nothing great out really so they had to create some excitment so they announced these titles far too early and now it just seems like its taking forever to get here. Sony has mmade some bad decisions in the last 2-3 years seems like they are getting there act together now though. poopiVONpoo

I'm going to go with this.

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#12 dream431ca
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Hey TC, go check out the new Yakuza 3 trailer and see what progress Sega has made with the PS3. It looks insane.
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#13 JuniorxXxX
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I think they were making so last chance changes
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#14 thelastguy
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I dont think Sony is good at making software while MS is because they have more experience in that field. Just look at Sonicstage for example. When sony tries to make something, it takes a long time, or when its out theres many problems with it. Tjeremiah1988

Yeah I agree, SonicStage was terrible.

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#15 Mystery_Writer
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Hey TC, go check out the new Yakuza 3 trailer and see what progress Sega has made with the PS3. It looks insane.dream431ca

ya.. i saw that. amazing graphics and it seems very interesting gameplay.

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#16 SapSacPrime
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Its the hardware, it is poorly designed which makes it difficult to program especially if you want to squeeze that little bit extra out of it. Quite a few developers have already said that in the past so it is not really news is it? I think Sony having hardware which takes longer to exploit the power from it is deliberate because they do it each gen and it ensures a longer life span if nothing else, backfired this time though :|.
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#17 SolidTy
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do you think SONY is a bit slow at development?e.g. Killzone 2, GT5, Home.., etc..

if so, what do you think the reasons behind that? i mean, whom to blame here behind all those delays?

Mystery_Writer

Who's to blame behind the delays for Too Human, Alan Wake, Halo Wars? Microsoft?

Sony also has some exceptional stuff ot, like Uncharted, Resistance, Ratchet, Warhawk, etc.

You may have a point, about Sony's Hardware, but even the easier to develop platform suffers from delays.

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#18 loudharley
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I think its a couple of things.I really think the biggest problem is developing games on the ps3.Its been a problem that many developers have talked about since before the ps3 came out.With games like killzone 2 i think theyve probably had some development problems but i also think that they dont want this game to fail so there working really hard on it to make it a success.
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#19 Eyezonmii
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Hey TC, go check out the new Yakuza 3 trailer and see what progress Sega has made with the PS3. It looks insane.dream431ca

did you get wowed by the cutscenes? when it hit gameplay, obvious difference in visuals. if that was realtime/in engine cutscenes.

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#20 loudharley
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Also games get delayed all the time no matter what system there being developed for.It just seems like it takes longer for the ps3.I mean look at how long its taken to get games like lbp,metal gear solid 4,grand torismo, and killzone 2 to come out.There are some that seem like there doing better with it because the resistance guys are getting the sequal out pretty quickly so thats a good sign.You have to look at some of these games that get released that like warhawk that decided to totally kill the single player portion and just release the online multiplayer.Grand torismo is another game that got released that was pretty much just a big demo.From what i hear socom will be an online only game as well.
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#21 GreyFoXX4
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Yall do realize that 3-4 years is about right for a graphics engine and game to be made right? Even Epic was working on the Unreal Engine back in 04, and possibly 03 and the first game on it I think was Geow in Nov 06 so about 3 or 4 years time for a game to be made on that engine.

So KZ2 is about right it was announced in what summer 05 and a game on that engine in Feb 09.

And most of the games that are taking that long are running on their on made graphics engine. Unlike alot of other games getting massed produced using a engine pre built and rented. But once their up and running like Insomiac has done, they will be able to produce games at alot faster pace for their sequels. But most of the time for a good epic experience it will atleast take 2 years of development for a game to hit retail, if not 3 years anyway.

Just my 2 cents lol.