Is lesbian Ellie pandering?

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#1 ReCloud
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How are the male insecure guys of SW dealing with a lesbian main character? Are you crying yet?

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#3 Ant_17
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lol, did you play left behind?

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#4 ahmedkhan1994
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Im too busy being blown away by the graphics and facial animations.

Fingers crossed they don't drop the multiplayer, i loved it.

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#5 adsparky
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She was lesbian before it was cool.

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#6 X_CAPCOM_X
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No

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#7  Edited By ronvalencia
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@recloud said:

How are the male insecure guys of SW dealing with a lesbian main character? Are you crying yet?

I'm fine with "girl on girl" action.

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#8 Basinboy
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I'm still unclear on this new love interest, I thought she (the new girl) was dancing with a man early on. Dunno why I would read anything into that but I guess I'll just wait for ND to say.

Also, Ellie was lesbian/bisexual before TLOU2 existed. The freak out you're looking for happened several years ago.

And to your question, yes, it is.

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#9 madrocketeer
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Wasn't her sexuality already revealed in a previous game?

I mean, I don't have a PS4, but I still heard.

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#10 Gaming-Planet
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Gays are privileged now.

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#11 NathanDrakeSwag
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They made her hot so I'm fine with it. If she was butch I'd pass.

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#12 ithilgore2006
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No, it is not, and anyone who claims it is is a goon.

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#13 stereointegrity
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Who cares about her sexual orientation. Just play the game

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#14 deactivated-5b34e33748e47
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You're a few years late there buddy

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#15 Tigerbalm
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She was lesbian on the PS3.

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#16 KBFloYd
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

They made her hot so I'm fine with it. If she was butch I'd pass.

but she was butch. dressed in jeans and flannel. hair in a ponytail. only thing missing was tatoos and a haircut.

she is definitely the man lesbian in the relationship.

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#17 ocinom
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The far left and special people will be so proud of this progressive game.

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#18 Xabiss
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Posting something like this on the forums just shows what kind of person you are op. Sorry! Did you even play the first game? WTF is wrong with people anymore.

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#19 JtoThaMtoThaP
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People are gay, its fine to reflect people in games

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#20 vvulturas
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She was already portrayed to be bisexual/lesbian on the Left Behind dlc.

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#21 NathanDrakeSwag
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@KBFloYd said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:

They made her hot so I'm fine with it. If she was butch I'd pass.

but she was butch. dressed in jeans and flannel. hair in a ponytail. only thing missing was tatoos and a haircut.

she is definitely the man lesbian in the relationship.

I disagree. Cute face and smile. Butch is like Rosie O Donnell or Ellen Degeneres.

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#22 Fairmonkey
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It was confirmed in Left Behind DLC years ago so it is not pandering

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#24 Planeforger
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Isn't this the point where people normally declare "SJWs have ruined gaming!", and demand that we boycott Naughty Dog forever?

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#25 Pedro
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I doubt it would get much negative reaction because lesbians are "cool". Now replace them with guys, they will lose their freaking minds.

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#26  Edited By Jacanuk
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@Basinboy said:

I'm still unclear on this new love interest, I thought she (the new girl) was dancing with a man early on. Dunno why I would read anything into that but I guess I'll just wait for ND to say.

Also, Ellie was lesbian/bisexual before TLOU2 existed. The freak out you're looking for happened several years ago.

And to your question, yes, it is.

If I remember the previous trailers, the "love" of Ellie gets killed and she goes off the rails and wants revenge on those who killed her.

I don´t think it´s a new interest.

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#27 R10nu
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@madrocketeer said:

Wasn't her sexuality already revealed in a previous game?

I mean, I don't have a PS4, but I still heard.

You have to forgive the OP, this whole videogames thing is new to him.

It's not what he's here for.

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#28 darklight4
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I'm kind of curious, the media crapped on this for violence against women last year now they will hail it as super progressive but the medias' BS is of no concern nor is her sexuality. She's a badass that's all I need her to be.

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#29  Edited By Basinboy
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@Jacanuk said:
@Basinboy said:

I'm still unclear on this new love interest, I thought she (the new girl) was dancing with a man early on. Dunno why I would read anything into that but I guess I'll just wait for ND to say.

Also, Ellie was lesbian/bisexual before TLOU2 existed. The freak out you're looking for happened several years ago.

And to your question, yes, it is.

If I remember the previous trailers, the "love" of Ellie gets killed and she goes off the rails and wants revenge on those who killed her.

I don´t think it´s a new interest.

Fits with her apparent motivation from the reveal trailer when she swears to "kill every last one of them." What I assume I missed must have been revealed either in a developer interview or comic (I don't stay on top of either very well).

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#30 Jacanuk
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@Basinboy said:
@Jacanuk said:
@Basinboy said:

I'm still unclear on this new love interest, I thought she (the new girl) was dancing with a man early on. Dunno why I would read anything into that but I guess I'll just wait for ND to say.

Also, Ellie was lesbian/bisexual before TLOU2 existed. The freak out you're looking for happened several years ago.

And to your question, yes, it is.

If I remember the previous trailers, the "love" of Ellie gets killed and she goes off the rails and wants revenge on those who killed her.

I don´t think it´s a new interest.

Fits with her apparent motivation from the reveal trailer when she swears to "kill every last one of them." What I assume I missed must have been revealed either in a developer interview or comic (I don't stay on top of either very well).

Yep, from the first trailer, they showed where she sits and plays the guitar.

So it seems like a flashback to a happier time. and then we get to play the future revenge driven Ellie.

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#31  Edited By deactivated-60113e7859d7d
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I wonder why they never do bisexual women. I bet the social justice warriors (a term I normally never use) would be pissed if Ellie did it with a guy, as if it would be some kind of betrayal.

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#32  Edited By Lilseb93
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No. It wasn't forced. We knew she was a lesbian since the DLC. And it wasn't forced there either. She's gay. The game isn't about her being gay. That's the difference.

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#33  Edited By 2mrw
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Super disappointed really..... But it is a game, shit, I do feel very silly now. . Anyway not a day 1 anymore

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#34 Archangel3371
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No.

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#35 speedfreak48t5p
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@Planeforger said:

Isn't this the point where people normally declare "SJWs have ruined gaming!", and demand that we boycott Naughty Dog forever?

They're too busy boycotting Battlefield 5.

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#36 deactivated-618bc23e9b1c9
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Was that supposed to be Sarkeesian? So ugly...

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#38 bigfootpart2
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Lesbians are so hot. I have no complaints.

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#39 BenjaminBanklin
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Ellie is gay. It is what it is. It's too bad homophobia is going to dominate the conversation when it comes to this game.

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#40  Edited By finalfantasy94
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I dont mind gay characters, but boy ND just slapped us over the head with this one. It just felt forced and yea I know the DLC had a kiss but I took it as her falling in love with a good friend who just happens to be a girl in a messed up world. That she could've fall in love with anyone but its clear by this trailer thats a no. Whats funny is they gave her the negative stereotypical lesbian look for this game.

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#41 Ten_Pints
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The frogs are turning the women gay!!!

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#42 so_hai
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Only a corporate tool would see that reveal as a way to expose "bigots". They obviously have no care about issues in a real sense, they use them to generate chatter, which you've so willingly perpetuated...

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#43 bigfootpart2
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The only guys who would have a problem with girl on girl action are closet cases

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#44 uninspiredcup
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Will this make the cutscenes gameplay?

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#45 mandzilla  Moderator
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Newsflash: gay people exist, so I don't see how it's a big deal for them to show up in games from time to time. Not everything is a conspiracy lol.

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#47 Zaryia
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Hot lesbians is a good marketing technique. Sex sells and guys love that stuff.

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#48 PraetorianMan
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It’s already blowing up on Twitter. Gamers have some of the worst “fans” of any kind of media ever, second only to sports.

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#49 Blackhairedhero
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They did this years ago... i don't care but i really hope we get to play as Joel some as well.

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#50 ZmanBarzel
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@Planeforger: What does Ellen Page have to do with this? She worked with Quantic Dreams on “Beyond: Two Souls,” not with ND on either TLOU game.