IS M$ really doing this?

http://www.ibtimes.com/xbox-one-users-must-waive-right-class-action-suits-against-microsoft-experts-weigh-1306797

if so all i can say is OMG

you mean like the exact same tos that is on the ps3? 

http://hothardware.com/News/Sony-Sneaks-Class-Action-Clause-into-Mandatory-PS3-Update/

http://www.ign.com/articles/2011/09/15/psns-new-user-agreement-has-class-action-waiver

http://consumerist.com/2011/09/16/sony-changes-ps3-terms-of-service-to-avoid-class-action-lawsuits/

gawd!

gawd y'all!

gawd!

m$ y'all!

:lol:

http://www.ibtimes.com/xbox-one-users-must-waive-right-class-action-suits-against-microsoft-experts-weigh-1306797

 

if so all i can say is OMG

paraskhos_basic

http://www.ibtimes.com/xbox-one-users-must-waive-right-class-action-suits-against-microsoft-experts-weigh-1306797

 

if so all i can say is OMG

paraskhos_basic

you have PSN+ so you agreed to "similar language"

Update: Commenters and Twitter users have pointed out that Sony introduced similar language to the terms and conditions of their online service a few months after thePlayStation Network was hacked in 2011. Sony has not responded to a request for comment from June 13.

lol, bet TC didnt see his thread going like this :Pnavyguy21

Sony did something similar after their PSN debacle to try and protect itself from future incidences but there hasn't been an instance where it's been tested.  It all depends on the nature of the claim and whether or not the company is trying to quash the ability of the opposing party to bring suit.  Putting an arbitration clause in the ToS complicates the legal steps it takes to get a claim in front of a judge but a shrink-wrap agreement like ToS isn't necessarily indicative of a meeting of the minds and clearly indicates unfair positions of bargaining power.

In short, it gets messy but arbitration clauses aren't "catch all" solutions to avoid civil damages.  In this case they are meant to make it less convenient for shark-attorneys to come along, propose a massive lawsuit to an already entitled audience, in an effort to coax a quick settlement out of a massive company so they can get a quick payout.  I highly question the amount of damages a gaming audience could bring in a civil suit over an issue like the PSN outage.  It's already a free service, so how was anybody financially hurt?  Publishers may have been hurt, but I'm sure the platform manufacturer would reconcile with them instead of leaving it to the courts (doing that would be an absolute nightmare).

you mean like the exact same tos that is on the ps3? 

http://hothardware.com/News/Sony-Sneaks-Class-Action-Clause-into-Mandatory-PS3-Update/

http://www.ign.com/articles/2011/09/15/psns-new-user-agreement-has-class-action-waiver

http://consumerist.com/2011/09/16/sony-changes-ps3-terms-of-service-to-avoid-class-action-lawsuits/

gawd!

gawd y'all!

gawd!

m$ y'all!

:lol:

Riverwolf007

Valve does it with Steam as well

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you mean like the exact same tos that is on the ps3? 

http://hothardware.com/News/Sony-Sneaks-Class-Action-Clause-into-Mandatory-PS3-Update/

http://www.ign.com/articles/2011/09/15/psns-new-user-agreement-has-class-action-waiver

http://consumerist.com/2011/09/16/sony-changes-ps3-terms-of-service-to-avoid-class-action-lawsuits/

gawd!

gawd y'all!

gawd!

m$ y'all!

:lol:

BPoole96

Valve does it with Steam as well

phones, tablets, consoles, televisions, whatever.

How...SMH.  This is in pretty much every terms of use that you agreed to but never read.  Not even kidding.  How is this a big deal. 

And besides people sue way to much.  Just grab your balls and bite the bullet, p*ssies.

http://www.ibtimes.com/xbox-one-users-must-waive-right-class-action-suits-against-microsoft-experts-weigh-1306797

 

if so all i can say is OMG

paraskhos_basic