Is more better? The quality versus quantity arguement.

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#1 Animal-Mother
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A lot of people believe more is better in todays world. But is it really?

We shop at places like costco, BJ's as well as other places in order to get the most bang for our buck.

But the question I will ask is, Are more games better or is it just an out to make your system look better?

I believe the answer is we do it to justify our feelings. Because at the end of the day despite the fact some systems have more games, are you really going to go the extra mile to make your system look good by saying it has sneak king, party babies, Gundam Wing Dynasty warriors and big rigs?

With the PC comign in with over 2000 games rated at metacritic people will still have to sift through a lot of things to find the games they want to play. As well as the other systems.

The 360 has A little over 800 games now.

The PS3 Has a little over 400.

And the wii is closing in on 600.
All Rated on metacritic.

Because I believe at the end of the day we do find our little niche titles that we enjoy that scored low.

But I believe a majority of the user populace buys games that are more well known and heavily advertised.

Because people will say their system has more, but yet they fail to mention the extremely poor rated games.

The bolded statements are my opinions so take them as you will.

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Well I'd take two AAA games over four A games, but it also depends on the game because there are certain AAA games (Warioware: Smooth Moves/PDZ) that I despise. But I'd generally take quality. Two AAA games on paper sounds better than four A games to me.

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#3 locopatho
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More is clearly better. More games, more variety, more freedom, more choice. (Provided the games aren't all crap)
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more games=more choices =more fun

I do not see how any real gamer would want less choices.

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#5 Animal-Mother
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More is clearly better. More games, more variety, more freedom, more choice. (Provided the games aren't all crap)locopatho
But you still have to sift through some garbage to find quality titles.
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[QUOTE="locopatho"]More is clearly better. More games, more variety, more freedom, more choice. (Provided the games aren't all crap)Animal-Mother
But you still have to sift through some garbage to find quality titles.

One mans garbage is another mans treasure. Do you only play AAA titles and that is it?
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[QUOTE="locopatho"]More is clearly better. More games, more variety, more freedom, more choice. (Provided the games aren't all crap)Animal-Mother
But you still have to sift through some garbage to find quality titles.

Well most games are either obvious shovelware, or fun in some way. They can't all be Mass Effect, but I could enjoy most (non shovelware) games made these days, to a degree.
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#8 Animal-Mother
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more games=more choices =more fun

I do not see how any real gamer would want less choices.

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But you failed to answer one of my questions would you go as far to say your system has the burger king games on them? As I said to iocopatho, more means more garbage to sift through, as well as my statement of a majority of people buying high quality titles. We all do it ,we say it has more but in the end we only go for the popular titles the more well known. It be interesting to see some collections.
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="locopatho"]More is clearly better. More games, more variety, more freedom, more choice. (Provided the games aren't all crap)locopatho
But you still have to sift through some garbage to find quality titles.

Well most games are either obvious shovelware, or fun in some way. They can't all be Mass Effect, but I could enjoy most (non shovelware) games made these days, to a degree.

Now i'm assuming you don't have a PS3 or PC, so I apologize now. But on your GC it seems you've played a lot of well hyped games.Said for some of the games on the list majority on it is once again well known games. But as I said, IDK if you have a PC/PS3 or Wii or anything else.
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#10 Kandros
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i thought this was about long gameplay...

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[QUOTE="SilentlyMad"]

more games=more choices =more fun

I do not see how any real gamer would want less choices.

Animal-Mother

But you failed to answer one of my questions would you go as far to say your system has the burger king games on them? As I said to iocopatho, more means more garbage to sift through, as well as my statement of a majority of people buying high quality titles. We all do it ,we say it has more but in the end we only go for the popular titles the more well known. It be interesting to see some collections.

Like I said in a post above

One mans garbage is another mans treasure. Do you only play AAA titles and that is it?

Also most people do not enjoy every style of gaming so one system could have 14 AAA games but only one or 2 interest that person. Lets say a person enjoys racers and that is pretty much it. That person would rather have 40 games to choose from then 10.

I also enjoy many games that are not AAA I feel bad for the people that only play AAA games.

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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="SilentlyMad"]

more games=more choices =more fun

I do not see how any real gamer would want less choices.

SilentlyMad

But you failed to answer one of my questions would you go as far to say your system has the burger king games on them? As I said to iocopatho, more means more garbage to sift through, as well as my statement of a majority of people buying high quality titles. We all do it ,we say it has more but in the end we only go for the popular titles the more well known. It be interesting to see some collections.

Like I said in a post above

One mans garbage is another mans treasure. Do you only play AAA titles and that is it?

Also most people do not enjoy every style of gaming so one system could have 14 AAA games but only one or 2 interest that person. Lets say a person enjoys racers and that is pretty much it. That person would rather have 40 games to choose from then 10.

I also enjoy many games that are not AAA I feel bad for the people that only play AAA games.

Well look through my GC and see if I play AAA only titles I think you'll be surprised.
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#13 SilentlyMad
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i thought this was about long gameplay...

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No this is pretty much about how I mentioned the 360 has almost twice the amount of games the PS3 does in another thread.
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[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] But you still have to sift through some garbage to find quality titles.Animal-Mother
Well most games are either obvious shovelware, or fun in some way. They can't all be Mass Effect, but I could enjoy most (non shovelware) games made these days, to a degree.

Now i'm assuming you don't have a PS3 or PC, so I apologize now. But on your GC it seems you've played a lot of well hyped games.Said for some of the games on the list majority on it is once again well known games. But as I said, IDK if you have a PC/PS3 or Wii or anything else.

I have a Wii, a non gaming PC (still good enough to run Civ 4 and Neverwinter Nights :D) and access to my brothers PS3. I try to play most games, again avoiding the ones that are obvious shovelware. I also have a PS2 with 150+ games for it, some GC, N64, SNES, Gameboy games as well, if that explains why I like quantity of games so much :P
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[QUOTE="SilentlyMad"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] But you failed to answer one of my questions would you go as far to say your system has the burger king games on them? As I said to iocopatho, more means more garbage to sift through, as well as my statement of a majority of people buying high quality titles. We all do it ,we say it has more but in the end we only go for the popular titles the more well known. It be interesting to see some collections.Animal-Mother

Like I said in a post above

One mans garbage is another mans treasure. Do you only play AAA titles and that is it?

Also most people do not enjoy every style of gaming so one system could have 14 AAA games but only one or 2 interest that person. Lets say a person enjoys racers and that is pretty much it. That person would rather have 40 games to choose from then 10.

I also enjoy many games that are not AAA I feel bad for the people that only play AAA games.

Well look through my GC and see if I play AAA only titles I think you'll be surprised.

Ok then I am confused at your point. I mean if you played some of these so called not great games and enjoyed at least some then what is the point? I mean I know why you made the thread but I am still confused at the point.

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Also it is weird because it is quality Vs quantity but the 360 has more AAA,AA,A games and more games in general also so it has quality and quantity.

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With my schedule being crowded with various activity, I am going to choose the quality side this time over quantity.

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Quality > Quantity every time. This is why numbers are misleading. I find a hell of a lot more to like on the PS3 exclusive library than the 360's. Numbers tell a different story, but it sure feels like there is more, and spanning more diverse genres to boot. Obviously factoring in the PC/360 shared titles would swing it closer to the 360's favor, but even with that in mind, I would take one God of War 3 over Gears, Kameo and Perfect Dark. I would take one MGS4 or Demon's Souls for GRAW, PGR3, and Left 4 Dead. Mass Effect though, may be a different story, don't ask me to quantify it with a value. I can't pick between my children! :P In 2006 it would have been the opposite, but we can all probably agree that Sony has been bringing it for quite some time now. This is how I related to the OP anyway.
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Quality > Quantity for me :D

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Also it is weird because it is quality Vs quantity but the 360 has more AAA,AA,A games and more games in general also so it has quality and quantity.

SilentlyMad

in response to your post above But if you look, their all fairly hyped well known games. Also Despite the fact it has more.= I think people need to realize sony is really relying on first and second party this gen. MS has a lot of 3rd party, that are easily sharable with PC. But in the end PC owns both hands down.

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[QUOTE="SilentlyMad"]

Also it is weird because it is quality Vs quantity but the 360 has more AAA,AA,A games and more games in general also so it has quality and quantity.

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in response to your post above But if you look, their all fairly hyped well known games. Also Despite the fact it has more. It's also been out a year longer. I think people need to realize sony is really relying on first and second party this gen.

You can say whatever excuse but numbers would be this

Not talking personal taste just review numbers (quality ) PC>360>PS3>Wii

Now (quantity) PC>360>Wii>PS3

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The issue with your question is that quality and quantity are not mutually exclusive things. Also for the most part (at least in terms of most SW discussions) quality is a subjective thing. If given the option for a system that had MGS4, RE5, Resistance, Orange Box, and Halo, vs one with Heavenly Sword, Rabbids Go Home, Boy and His Blob, Kameo, Cooking Mama, Petz, Nicktoons Game 100, Planet 54, Geoforce, and Monopoly, I'll take the second one. While not all the games may interest me, more of them do than the "High Quality" games from the first system.

I think people like to make poor scoring games more important than they really are. I have no problem going to a store and finding the games I'm interested. The fact that there are also 5 versions of Petz on the shelf next to them really doesn't effect me.

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I'll take Quality AND quantity.

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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="SilentlyMad"]

Also it is weird because it is quality Vs quantity but the 360 has more AAA,AA,A games and more games in general also so it has quality and quantity.

SilentlyMad

in response to your post above But if you look, their all fairly hyped well known games. Also Despite the fact it has more. It's also been out a year longer. I think people need to realize sony is really relying on first and second party this gen.

You can say whatever excuse but numbers would be this

Not talking personal taste just review numbers (quality ) PC>360>PS3>Wii

Now (quantity) PC>360>Wii>PS3

Tell me how is it an excuse. How many 1st party games has MS released compared to sony? Also I never denied the numbers.,
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[QUOTE="SilentlyMad"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] in response to your post above But if you look, their all fairly hyped well known games. Also Despite the fact it has more. It's also been out a year longer. I think people need to realize sony is really relying on first and second party this gen.Animal-Mother

You can say whatever excuse but numbers would be this

Not talking personal taste just review numbers (quality ) PC>360>PS3>Wii

Now (quantity) PC>360>Wii>PS3

Tell me how is it an excuse. How many 1st party games has MS released compared to sony? Also I never denied the numbers.,

If you wanted to make another PS3 Vs 360 thread then you should have. Fact is the PC is first in both areas and the 360 is second in both areas. Also I do not care who makes a game I just care if I like it.

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The issue with your question is that quality and quantity are not mutually exclusive things. Also for the most part (at least in terms of most SW discussions) quality is a subjective thing. If given the option for a system that had MGS4, RE5, Resistance, Orange Box, and Halo, vs one with Heavenly Sword, Rabbids Go Home, Boy and His Blob, Kameo, Cooking Mama, Petz, Nicktoons Game 100, Planet 54, Geoforce, and Monopoly, I'll take the second one. While not all the games may interest me, more of them do than the "High Quality" games from the first system.

I think people like to make poor scoring games more important than they really are. I have no problem going to a store and finding the games I'm interested. The fact that there are also 5 versions of Petz on the shelf next to them really doesn't effect me.

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See this is a problem that I agree with, I have no problem going to find games I WANT to play. But when it comes down the fact of the matter a lot of people will say we have quantity and fail to mention some of the games that are part of that whole to make them seem more important than they really are.
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The problem with the whole "Quality vs. Quantity" argument is that the only part that is not subjective is QUANTITY. Quality varies from site to site and person to person. The truth is SW as a whole is nothing but an argument that "TRIES" to make sense of subjective opinions in order to declare a "victor". But even with all the rules SW's applies to scores, what's a multiplat, DLC counting, etc. it still can't organize this forum. Obviously anyone with a half a brain would go for quality over quantity but then there are things to consider like how relevant is a game when it's emphasis is on multiplayer and it's sequel is out. Basically, how much of a benefit is it to have Resistance, GEOW or GRAW on your tally when the truth is Resistance 2, GEOW 2 and GRAW 2 is where most of that fanbase is. It still counts as a plus for SW but as a gamer who owns neither of those six, the choice is really gonna be down to THREE. I don't have tons of time to game but when I do I game on a system of my choice based off of the exclusives I deem quality and that's just something that means nothing in SW.
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="SilentlyMad"]You can say whatever excuse but numbers would be this

Not talking personal taste just review numbers (quality ) PC>360>PS3>Wii

Now (quantity) PC>360>Wii>PS3

SilentlyMad

Tell me how is it an excuse. How many 1st party games has MS released compared to sony? Also I never denied the numbers.,

If you wanted to make another PS3 Vs 360 thread then you should have. Fact is the PC is first in both areas and the 360 is second in both areas. Also I do not care who makes a game I just care if I like it.

I asked a question & you dodged it so it's obvious what the answer is. Also where did I say the numbers are false. It's true the numbers show PC>>360>>PS3>>>wii as far as more and in quality. I never disagreed. PC will always be miles ahead of the console, heck even in terms of quality.
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For me quality is always better than quantity.

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[QUOTE="SilentlyMad"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Tell me how is it an excuse. How many 1st party games has MS released compared to sony? Also I never denied the numbers.,Animal-Mother

If you wanted to make another PS3 Vs 360 thread then you should have. Fact is the PC is first in both areas and the 360 is second in both areas. Also I do not care who makes a game I just care if I like it.

I asked a question & you dodged it so it's obvious what the answer is. Also where did I say the numbers are false. It's true the numbers show PC>>360>>PS3>>>wii as far as more and in quality. I never disagreed. PC will always be miles ahead of the console, heck even in terms of quality.

well you can disagree with quality because everyone has personal opinions but since we can not poll every gamer going by reviews the PS3 is in 3rd place.

Also what question did you think I dodged? The who developed what game one? I have no idea for every game but like I said I do not care. I play games not developers. If you only play certain developers that is your choice.

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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="SilentlyMad"]If you wanted to make another PS3 Vs 360 thread then you should have. Fact is the PC is first in both areas and the 360 is second in both areas. Also I do not care who makes a game I just care if I like it.

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I asked a question & you dodged it so it's obvious what the answer is. Also where did I say the numbers are false. It's true the numbers show PC>>360>>PS3>>>wii as far as more and in quality. I never disagreed. PC will always be miles ahead of the console, heck even in terms of quality.

well you can disagree with quality because everyone has personal opinions but since we can not poll every gamer going by reviews the PS3 is in 3rd place.

Also what question did you think I dodged? The who developed what game one? I have no idea for every game but like I said I do not care. I play games not developers. If you only play certain developers that is your choice.

I think it's obvious I don't play certain developers by my GC which you seem to keep accusing me of things, when my GC proves otherwise. I asked Who developed more first party games. MS or Sony You so blatantly state I don't play developers when that isn't even part of the question.
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[QUOTE="SilentlyMad"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] I asked a question & you dodged it so it's obvious what the answer is. Also where did I say the numbers are false. It's true the numbers show PC>>360>>PS3>>>wii as far as more and in quality. I never disagreed. PC will always be miles ahead of the console, heck even in terms of quality.Animal-Mother

well you can disagree with quality because everyone has personal opinions but since we can not poll every gamer going by reviews the PS3 is in 3rd place.

Also what question did you think I dodged? The who developed what game one? I have no idea for every game but like I said I do not care. I play games not developers. If you only play certain developers that is your choice.

I asked who developed more first party games. No answer. But you play games. What's your favorite series.

I actually aswered the question and it is my second time doing it. Why are you trying to sway so much from your topic anyways? You asked what is better Quantity or Quality and I pointed out the PC is best in both areas and as far as consoles the 360 is best. Now your asking me my favorite game and such?? You made the thread and are not even staying on topic. Well seems your just jumping around and I really do not even know what your getting at anymore. Talk to you later.

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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="SilentlyMad"]well you can disagree with quality because everyone has personal opinions but since we can not poll every gamer going by reviews the PS3 is in 3rd place.

Also what question did you think I dodged? The who developed what game one? I have no idea for every game but like I said I do not care. I play games not developers. If you only play certain developers that is your choice.

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I asked who developed more first party games. No answer. But you play games. What's your favorite series.

I actually aswered the question and it is my second time doing it. Why are you trying to sway so much from your topic anyways? You asked what is better Quantity or Quality and I pointed out the PC is best in both areas and as far as consoles the 360 is best. Now your asking me my favorite game and such?? You made the thread and are not even staying on topic. Well seems your just jumping around and I really do not even know what your getting at anymore. Talk to you later.

Because I asked questions you kept avoiding. But I keep agreeing with you and you seem to not see that I am agreeing with you. Do you just wanna believe i'm a fanboy who won't agree with you for argument sake? Or not see that i'm actually trying to have a constructive conversation.
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I rather have 2 above average games than 5 below average games.
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I prefer lots of quality games. 360 is the perfect example of both

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#37 Animal-Mother
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I prefer lots of quality games. 360 is the perfect example of both

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Actually PC is.
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You can only play ONE game at a time. Quantity isn't one.