Is PC gaming a generation ahead?

Do you think that PC gaming is a generation ahead then console gaming? The graphics from a 2007 game look better then any console game ever and PC games are looking better and better.

The hardware is most definitely a generation ahead.

As for the games, very few are next-gen material mainly due to most being indy or multiplatform.

Metro 2033 is a good example of a game that looks decent on consoles, and amazing on PC. So yes, I think games are at LEAST a generation ahead, if the devs use an engine that scales and has options like DX11.

Metro on PC with full DX11 at 2560x1600 is scary real.

You can't watch a Youtube video and judge. Play a game like Arma 2, Crysis or Stalker. The design is far ahead of any console game. Maybe not a generation but there's definitely a difference. It's hard to go back to multiplats because they feel so dated.

I think it's quite a few Generations ahead.

It's a step up at least.

i would say more than a generation, i doubt the next consoles would have something as powerful as an ATI 5870 or GTX 480

Nononono, that would mess up the entire filing system. There's enough trouble as it is with the whole "2006 games are current-gen games" fiasco.

mos def yes.

Not really. PC games are definitely better from a technical perspective, but it's hard to call them a "generation ahead" what with the whole law of diminishing returns thing.

A generation ahead ofc. You only need to look at the hardware to see that, its also 2 directX versions infront and games already scrapping DX9 completely like BF3 is going to. I can see the difference because i have all systems, but the problem is you cant see the big leap ahead because its easier for devs to multiplatform games. If there were big compines pushing the PC to its limits you will see the difference from just screen shots and youtube videos.

As mentioned, that hardware is more than a generation ahead. You won't be seeing the equivalent of a modern high end GPU in the next gen consoles.

The issue is that the software, for the most part, isn't. The developers that have a budget to make a truly impressive PC only, next gen engine, aren't doing that, because they want their games to be multi-plat. Consoles become the target, and while the PC will undoubtedly do a better job on those titles and that difference is clearly noticeable, the engine is not going to take full advantage of the hardware, to do so would mean essentially creating two seperate engines, one for PC and one for console, and that's just too expensive and time consuming.

On the other hand, those PC exclusive developers tend to be either indy, or cater to a large spectrum of PC gamers. One doesn't have the money, the other needs to create an engine than can be run on a laptop.

Crysis is a generation ahead, and many others to.

If anyone thinks pc are a gen ahead have very obviousley never seen the jump from gen to gen.

Yes. PC only games are of such a bigger scale in general, consoles will never reach it this gen.

JONO51

Rofl, ya right, and what are these huge scale games consoles cant do again?

[QUOTE="JONO51"]

Yes. PC only games are of such a bigger scale in general, consoles will never reach it this gen.

warmaster670

Rofl, ya right, and what are these huge scale games consoles cant do again?

The new Total War game. Consoles would turn into flames trying to run that game.

Do you think that PC gaming is a generation ahead then console gaming? The graphics from a 2007 game look better then any console game ever and PC games are looking better and better.

swguy123

As far as graphics only? Perhaps a bit. It's the customization that keeps me gaming the most on the PC and where I think PC games are far ahead of most console games.

[QUOTE="JONO51"]

Yes. PC only games are of such a bigger scale in general, consoles will never reach it this gen.

warmaster670

Rofl, ya right, and what are these huge scale games consoles cant do again?

No. At least not for sure. We won't know what is technically a full generation ahead is until the next consoles come and we see what they can do. The PC might be two generations ahead or it might be less than a generation ahead, who knows yet.

PC doesnt have gnerations

STALKER games were a generation behind in graphics, but definitely way past anything I've seen from any game in terms of gameplay. (cant really say a generation ahead in gameplay, as it doesnt really sound politically correct) i really wish more console gamers could be able to play those games so that they'd understandyellosnolvr

Wait what?? :?

[QUOTE="JONO51"]

Yes. PC only games are of such a bigger scale in general, consoles will never reach it this gen.

warmaster670

Rofl, ya right, and what are these huge scale games consoles cant do again?

Total War Series, Crysis 1, Stalker, Arma 2 ect.

[QUOTE="JONO51"]

Yes. PC only games are of such a bigger scale in general, consoles will never reach it this gen.

warmaster670

Rofl, ya right, and what are these huge scale games consoles cant do again?

PC doesnt have gnerations

[QUOTE="yellosnolvr"]STALKER games were a generation behind in graphics, but definitely way past anything I've seen from any game in terms of gameplay. (cant really say a generation ahead in gameplay, as it doesnt really sound politically correct) i really wish more console gamers could be able to play those games so that they'd understandmuscleserge

It doesn't have jellyized textures so it looks bad. :P

It's obvious that this low res, linear blurfest of a game

looks better then a pseudo open world with real time SSAO, Global Illumination, Deffered rendering + HDR game

Unless someone has a time machine no one knows when the next gen consoles will be released so no one can be sure. It looks to me like it will be another 3 years or so until we see a new line up of consoles so PCs would still be quite a way off that gen.

markop2003

PCB motherboard cost usually remains constant. Like their console counterparts, the latest mainstream PCGPUs still sports 128bit external bus.

We could guess the future console GPUs based on thefuture process tech geometry.

[QUOTE="markop2003"] Unless someone has a time machine no one knows when the next gen consoles will be released so no one can be sure. It looks to me like it will be another 3 years or so until we see a new line up of consoles so PCs would still be quite a way off that gen. ronvalencia

GTX 460 1gig is 256bit.

6850 and 6870 is 256bit.

Those are mainstream cards.

And motherboards get considerably cheaper for what they offer.

pc graphics have gone no where since crysis in 07 . no not really they don't any any software to break it up .

Even when the new consoles just come out PC will still be ahead. I don't even know how console gaming is still alive really.

PC doesnt have gnerations

Nah, it's consoles that set generational bars. Like GeoW.Deathtransit

Do you think that PC gaming is a generation ahead then console gaming? The graphics from a 2007 game look better then any console game ever and PC games are looking better and better.

swguy123

[QUOTE="Deathtransit"]Nah, it's consoles that set generational bars. Like GeoW.04dcarraher

GeoW may not have added much new, but it popularized a LOT of things. The graphics were the best of any game that year, even beating out hard worked on PS3 launch titles and PC titles, its also not like cover shooting became standard in TPS games after kill.switch, they became standard after Gears. Same for the shoulder aim, first on RE4 but popularized by Gears. Don't even get me started on co-op, something Gears and even Gears 2 did great jobs of being ahead of most games on.

I don't like the series too much after 2, but you would be a fool not to admit Gears is one of the biggest games of our generation.

hardware is well over a generation ahead, but very few developers take advantage of it

i dont know, this console gen is like a step backwards to me. Console games are taking more and more control away from players and making games more and more like bad interactive movies.

hardware is well over a generation ahead, but very few developers take advantage of it

Sword-Demon

[QUOTE="Deathtransit"]Nah, it's consoles that set generational bars. Like GeoW.04dcarraher

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="Deathtransit"]Nah, it's consoles that set generational bars. Like GeoW.Deathtransit

Nah, it's consoles that set generational bars. Like GeoW.Deathtransit

Crysis set the next generation bar back in 2007. :lol:

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="Deathtransit"]Nah, it's consoles that set generational bars. Like GeoW.SPYDER0416

GeoW may not have added much new, but it popularized a LOT of things. The graphics were the best of any game that year, even beating out hard worked on PS3 launch titles and PC titles, its also not like cover shooting became standard in TPS games after kill.switch, they became standard after Gears. Same for the shoulder aim, first on RE4 but popularized by Gears. Don't even get me started on co-op, something Gears and even Gears 2 did great jobs of being ahead of most games on.

I don't like the series too much after 2, but you would be a fool not to admit Gears is one of the biggest games of our generation.