Is PC gaming a generation ahead?

No. When we were in the middle of the ps2 era, were there any games on pc that looked like god of war III or uncharted 2?

No. When we were in the middle of the ps2 era, were there any games on pc that looked like god of war III or uncharted 2?

15strong

No. When we were in the middle of the ps2 era, were there any games on pc that looked like god of war III or uncharted 2?

15strong

I don't know. The best looking PC games I know of from the previous gen were: HL2, Doom 3, Far Cry, Battlefield 2, and perhaps Homeworld 2 or Pacific Fighters (flight sim). There may have been better-looking ones. But, these are games I own.

Do you think that PC gaming is a generation ahead then console gaming? The graphics from a 2007 game look better then any console game ever and PC games are looking better and better.

swguy123

PC gaming doesn't work like consoles gaming. There are no generations--pc hardware is not fixed.

The graphics from a 2007 game look better then any console game ever swguy123

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Do you think that PC gaming is a generation ahead then console gaming? The graphics from a 2007 game look better then any console game ever and PC games are looking better and better.

Heirren

PC gaming doesn't work like consoles gaming. There are no generations--pc hardware is not fixed.

I know, but there are no pc games in the middle of the ps2 generation that looked better than the top console games now. Don't you guys find it funny that pc games evolve when consoles evolve?

No. When we were in the middle of the ps2 era, were there any games on pc that looked like god of war III or uncharted 2?

15strong

HL2

GoW 2

[QUOTE="swguy123"]The graphics from a 2007 game look better then any console game ever vashkey

Less powerful than a wii?

Waa?!

Hermits are funny little creatures, it seems like the higher their spec the more divorced from reality they become.Elutheria

Do you have a Steam ID, Xfire user name, or a Battle.net account? If you have never played PC then I suggest you say nothing. Its funny seeing console kids using nothing but little petty insults to argue.

Of course, this has been the case since the beginning of PC gaming.

[QUOTE="Elutheria"]Hermits are funny little creatures, it seems like the higher their spec the more divorced from reality they become.Jebus213

Do you have a Steam ID, Xfire user name, or a Battle.net account? If you have never played PC then I suggest you say nothing. Its funny seeing console kids using nothing but little petty insults to argue.

PC gaming has been for the longest time ahead of console gaming. Especially when it comes to graphics/hardware wise.

you forgot to add an "s" after "generation" LOL :lol:

PC gaming has been for the longest time ahead of console gaming. Especially when it comes to graphics/hardware wise.

UnknownElement4

They were easily 3x or more powerful than consoles back in 2006.

And that was for a single gpu. I am not even counting sli ones back then.

Now current gpus are easily over 12x more powerful than a console.

New gpus are already starting to arrive which will be even faster.

No. It may be more advanced, but not to that extent.mo0ksi

pcs can play games at over 100+ framers per second and resolutions extremely higher than 1080P. And they do that natively i should add! so yes they are at least a generation ahead than consoles

No absolutely not. 720p --> 1080p and 2 X AA --> 8 X AA is not a generation ahead...

PC is 3 years ahead, at best. Half a generation. (a breakthrough?)

Your smoking a drake if you think consoles are on par with PC's.

mattuk69

No absolutely not. 720p --> 1080p and 2 X AA --> 8 X AA is not a generation ahead...

PC is 3 years ahead, at best. Half a generation. (a breakthrough?)

hd5870corei7

No absolutely not. 720p --> 1080p and 2 X AA --> 8 X AA is not a generation ahead...

PC is 3 years ahead, at best. Half a generation. (a breakthrough?)

hd5870corei7

um you do realize pcs play much much higher than 1080P right? probably if not even double 1920x1080. and they do this natively unlike consoles where only a select few games (about a dozen games) can barely handle 1080 natively. so again, yes pcs are a generation if not generations ahead of consoles.

No absolutely not. 720p --> 1080p and 2 X AA --> 8 X AA is not a generation ahead...

PC is 3 years ahead, at best. Half a generation. (a breakthrough?)

hd5870corei7

PCs were playing at resolutions higher than 720P in the late 1990s.

The hardware definitely is. No questioning that. PC games, however, are not optimized for this advanced hardware, but rather the exact opposite.

The Radeon 5970 with 2-4GB GDDR5 and 3200 SPUs is definitely a generation ahead of the Xenos with 256MB GDDR3 and 48 SPUs, or the RSX with 256MB VRAM and 24 pixel pipes + 8 vertex pipes.

Let's say Epic or Naughty Dog decided to optimize for a 5970, 30fps @ 720p with a $60 million budget like KZ2 or GT5. The end image quality would be straight up photorealistic. Of course, most PC games are designed around the equivalent of a 8800GT, or less.

The hardware definitely is. No questioning that. PC games, however, are not optimized for this advanced hardware, but rather the exact opposite.

The Radeon 5970 with 2-4GB GDDR5 and 3200 SPUs is definitely a generation ahead of the Xenos with 256MB GDDR3 and 48 SPUs, or the RSX with 256MB VRAM and 24 pixel pipes + 8 vertex pipes.

Let's say Epic or Naughty Dog decided to optimize for a 5970, 30fps @ 720p with a $60 million budget like KZ2 or GT5. The end image quality would be straight up photorealistic. Of course, most PC games are designed around the equivalent of a 8800GT, or less.

gamecubepad

No not even close , most multiplat games share many of the same assets and the next consoels will probaly be about 2 years ahead of anything thats out now. Ask yourself do you think current pc games will match next gen console titles? I dont think so .

In terms of hardware? Absolutely. Software is limited by budget/time constraints on the developer, and also the industries move to multiplatform development.

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Your smoking a drake if you think consoles are on par with PC's.

WhenCicadasCry

LOL :lol:

Funny think is Uncharted 2 looks better then most pc games. Go figure.

[QUOTE="UnknownElement4"]

PC gaming has been for the longest time ahead of console gaming. Especially when it comes to graphics/hardware wise.

Hakkai007

They were easily 3x or more powerful than consoles back in 2006.

And that was for a single gpu. I am not even counting sli ones back then.

Now current gpus are easily over 12x more powerful than a console.

New gpus are already starting to arrive which will be even faster.

Then thats know where near a generation. The PS3 is said to be 30x more powerful then the PS2 so we have a ways to go.

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[QUOTE="mattuk69"]

Your smoking a drake if you think consoles are on par with PC's.

TheSterls

LOL :lol:

Funny think is Uncharted 2 looks better then most pc games. Go figure.

PC games from 2006, sure.

[QUOTE="hd5870corei7"]

No absolutely not. 720p --> 1080p and 2 X AA --> 8 X AA is not a generation ahead...

PC is 3 years ahead, at best. Half a generation. (a breakthrough?)

Rage010101

um you do realize pcs play much much higher than 1080P right? probably if not even double 1920x1080. and they do this natively unlike consoles where only a select few games (about a dozen games) can barely handle 1080 natively. so again, yes pcs are a generation if not generations ahead of consoles.

You do realize you wont be running high end games at double 1080p at even playable framerates without sli.

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[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

LOL :lol:

WhenCicadasCry

Funny think is Uncharted 2 looks better then most pc games. Go figure.

PC games from 2006, sure.

Most pc games period . Why did it win best graphic awards in 2009 everywhere? You guys act like pc games come out every month that look better and thats simply not true.

No not even close , most multiplat games share many of the same assets and the next consoels will probaly be about 2 years ahead of anything thats out now. Ask yourself do you think current pc games will match next gen console titles? I dont think so .

TheSterls

No not even close , most multiplat games share many of the same assets and the next consoels will probaly be about 2 years ahead of anything thats out now. Ask yourself do you think current pc games will match next gen console titles? I dont think so .

TheSterls

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No not even close , most multiplat games share many of the same assets and the next consoels will probaly be about 2 years ahead of anything thats out now. Ask yourself do you think current pc games will match next gen console titles? I dont think so .

ferret-gamer

Not sure, It will go down with time but I think you will see new consoels come out in 2012. If its anything like the previous generations you will probalby get a few high end pc ports that were exclusive. So something like the Witcher 2 will probaly be on the level of a next gen console launch title.

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

No not even close , most multiplat games share many of the same assets and the next consoels will probaly be about 2 years ahead of anything thats out now. Ask yourself do you think current pc games will match next gen console titles? I dont think so .

ferret-gamer

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[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

Funny think is Uncharted 2 looks better then most pc games. Go figure.

TheSterls

PC games from 2006, sure.

Most pc games period . Why did it win best graphic awards in 2009 everywhere? You guys act like pc games come out every month that look better and thats simply not true.

The same reason why Metal Gear Solid 4 won the best technical graphics 2008 over Crysis Warhead. Uncharted 2 barely looks better then Gothic 4. It's only saving grace is it's artstyle.

Sorry but am I missing something here? I don't see anything special about Uncharted 2. Sounds like more hyperbole to me. :roll:

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[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

PC games from 2006, sure.

WhenCicadasCry

Most pc games period . Why did it win best graphic awards in 2009 everywhere? You guys act like pc games come out every month that look better and thats simply not true.

The same reason why Metal Gear Solid 4 won the best technical graphics 2008 over Crysis Warhead. Uncharted 2 barely looks better then Gothic 4. It's only saving grace is it's artstyle.

Sorry but am I missing something here? I don't see anything special about Uncharted 2. Sounds like more hyperbole to me. :roll:

Yet MGS4 only won here on gamespot , It didnt when everywhere Uncharted 2 did and thats the diffrence. You are effectively saying every gaming website has some consipracy against the pc.

Second if you are arguing gothic 4 looks even close to Uncharted 2 there is really no reason to argue with you . Gothic has horrible animations terrible charcter models , the lighting is weak and the textures are worse as well its only strong point is scale. Have you even played UC2?

heres the thing, pc games arent designed for 720p, 30 fps (or less), little aa, and nearly nothing interactive on screen. There is a huge difference in a game like starcraft 2 and what consoles offer. Other examples include, stalker call of pripyat, the witcher (compare it to fable 2/3), or even something like aion whch would die on consoles (yes that is a big part of the present/future of gaming, mmos). TerrorRizzing

Hey, I totally agree.

However, there are only 10 PC games that really shine compared to console games. Sure that's ignoring the massive difference in resolution, texture quality, and shader quality.

A good example is a multiplat like DMC 4, that gets 180fps at max settings(8xAA, Super High) on a 5970, and only 5fps on a 4550 that's roughly the same power as what you'd see from the Xenos or RSX. That's 36-times the framerate. Consider the fact that it also has 66-times the amount of SPUs and 16-times the amount of VRAM as the Xenos. That's a generation difference.

I suppose this is what hermits refer to as "consolization". So if this console gen goes through 2013-14 like many people want it to, how big will the gap be in 2-3yrs? However, it will be up to modders to support these cards, since most devs just don't care to.

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Most pc games period . Why did it win best graphic awards in 2009 everywhere? You guys act like pc games come out every month that look better and thats simply not true.

TheSterls

The same reason why Metal Gear Solid 4 won the best technical graphics 2008 over Crysis Warhead. Uncharted 2 barely looks better then Gothic 4. It's only saving grace is it's artstyle.

Sorry but am I missing something here? I don't see anything special about Uncharted 2. Sounds like more hyperbole to me. :roll:

Yet MGS4 only won here on gamespot , It didnt when everywhere Uncharted 2 did and thats the diffrence. You are effectively saying every gaming website has some consipracy against the pc.

Second if you are arguing gothic 4 looks even close to Uncharted 2 there is really no reason to argue with you . Gothic has horrible animations terrible charcter models , the lighting is weak and the textures are worse as well its only strong point is scale. Have you even played UC2?

Textures are worse? :? The only thing I give Uncharted 2 is animation. Gothic 4 wins of scale, textures, and pretty much everything else. Lighting? :lol: Have you seen Gothic 4s lighting?

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[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

The same reason why Metal Gear Solid 4 won the best technical graphics 2008 over Crysis Warhead. Uncharted 2 barely looks better then Gothic 4. It's only saving grace is it's artstyle.

Sorry but am I missing something here? I don't see anything special about Uncharted 2. Sounds like more hyperbole to me. :roll:

WhenCicadasCry

Yet MGS4 only won here on gamespot , It didnt when everywhere Uncharted 2 did and thats the diffrence. You are effectively saying every gaming website has some consipracy against the pc.

Second if you are arguing gothic 4 looks even close to Uncharted 2 there is really no reason to argue with you . Gothic has horrible animations terrible charcter models , the lighting is weak and the textures are worse as well its only strong point is scale. Have you even played UC2?

Textures are worse? :? The only thing I give Uncharted 2 is animation. Gothic 4 wins of scale, textures, and pretty much everything else. Lighting? :lol: Have you seen Gothic 4s lighting?

yes ive played the game pc version maxed on DX10 and no UC2 troucnes it from a visual perspective . Please answer the question have you played UC2? are we just looking at screenshots?

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[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

Yet MGS4 only won here on gamespot , It didnt when everywhere Uncharted 2 did and thats the diffrence. You are effectively saying every gaming website has some consipracy against the pc.

Second if you are arguing gothic 4 looks even close to Uncharted 2 there is really no reason to argue with you . Gothic has horrible animations terrible charcter models , the lighting is weak and the textures are worse as well its only strong point is scale. Have you even played UC2?

TheSterls

Textures are worse? :? The only thing I give Uncharted 2 is animation. Gothic 4 wins of scale, textures, and pretty much everything else. Lighting? :lol: Have you seen Gothic 4s lighting?

yes ive played the game pc version maxed on DX10 and no UC2 troucnes it from a visual perspective . Please answer the question have you played UC2? are we just looking at screenshots?

Yes? And the screenshots I just posted proves that Uncharted 2 doesn't "trounce" Gothic 4. From what I'm seeing Gothic 4 has it beat in everything except character models and artstyle. 3D backdrop >> 2D Jpeg backdrop.

I wouldn't say that. It has potential but no games on PC feel very next gen

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[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

Textures are worse? :? The only thing I give Uncharted 2 is animation. Gothic 4 wins of scale, textures, and pretty much everything else. Lighting? :lol: Have you seen Gothic 4s lighting?

WhenCicadasCry

yes ive played the game pc version maxed on DX10 and no UC2 troucnes it from a visual perspective . Please answer the question have you played UC2? are we just looking at screenshots?

Yes? And the screenshots I just posted proves that Uncharted 2 doesn't "trounce" Gothic 4. From what I'm seeing Gothic 4 has it beat in everything except character models and artstyle. 3D backdrop >> 2D Jpeg backdrop.

Um your lying, Uncharted 2 doesnt use 2d jpeg drops you can actually see the aliasing on the mountains when you play the game . If you palyed it you should know this . The only area gothic 4 wins is scale and you can look up its overall graphical reviews and the pc version averages an 8 compared to uncharted 2 10s. You can bring in the standard arguments but even then when a pc multiplat looks superior it only scores half a point to a point higher.