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#1 RyanShazam
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Dark Souls released for 360 and PS3 and was later released for PC. Now Dark Souls 2 is releasing for 360/PS3/PC and is being dumbed down.

Story: More straight forward and easier to understand

More Accessible...

Game progressively gets harder rather than very hard right at the beginning.

Seems like PC gamers couldn't handle Dark Souls and because of them us console gamers are getting shafted. What a sad time for console gamers everywhere. What are your thoughts on this disgrace to gaming? Are we going to see this as an ongoing trend in gaming?

:P

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#2 thankstome
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Dark Souls released for 360 and PS3 and was later released for PC. Now Dark Souls 2 is releasing for 360/PS3/PC and is being dumbed down.

Story: More straight forward and easier to understand

More Accessible...

Game progressively gets harder rather than very hard right at the beginning.

Seems like PC gamers couldn't handle Dark Souls and because of them us console gamers are getting shafted. What a sad time for console gamers everywhere. What are your thoughts on this disgrace to gaming? Are we going to see this as an ongoing trend in gaming?

:P

RyanShazam
otherway around and dark souls 2 is a console port to pc.
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#3 RyanShazam
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[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]

Dark Souls released for 360 and PS3 and was later released for PC. Now Dark Souls 2 is releasing for 360/PS3/PC and is being dumbed down.

Story: More straight forward and easier to understand

More Accessible...

Game progressively gets harder rather than very hard right at the beginning.

Seems like PC gamers couldn't handle Dark Souls and because of them us console gamers are getting shafted. What a sad time for console gamers everywhere. What are your thoughts on this disgrace to gaming? Are we going to see this as an ongoing trend in gaming?

:P

thankstome

otherway around and dark souls 2 is a console port to pc.

Doesn't mean they can't cater to the PC gaming community...

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#4 el3m2tigre
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It's probably the other way around now.

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#5 thankstome
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[QUOTE="thankstome"][QUOTE="RyanShazam"]

Dark Souls released for 360 and PS3 and was later released for PC. Now Dark Souls 2 is releasing for 360/PS3/PC and is being dumbed down.

Story: More straight forward and easier to understand

More Accessible...

Game progressively gets harder rather than very hard right at the beginning.

Seems like PC gamers couldn't handle Dark Souls and because of them us console gamers are getting shafted. What a sad time for console gamers everywhere. What are your thoughts on this disgrace to gaming? Are we going to see this as an ongoing trend in gaming?

:P

RyanShazam

otherway around and dark souls 2 is a console port to pc.

They probably made it with PC gaming in mind.

nope pc has more complex options have more complex games.
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#6 Masenkoe
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This is literally the dumbest thing I've read all day. Congratulations.

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#7 RyanShazam
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It's probably the other way around now.

el3m2tigre

It wasn't until PC gaming entered the scene that they are changing their game.

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#8 thankstome
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dark souls is being dumbed down its not made for a single console like it was originally for ps3.
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#9 RyanShazam
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dark souls is being dumbed down its not made for a single console like it was originally for ps3.thankstome
I found Dark Souls to be just as challenging as Demon's Souls.

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#10 RyanShazam
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[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]

[QUOTE="thankstome"] otherway around and dark souls 2 is a console port to pc.thankstome

They probably made it with PC gaming in mind.

nope pc has more complex options have more complex games.

Then why are they putting this game on PC and dumbing it down? The first two weren't and they were originally console exclusive.

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#11 thankstome
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[QUOTE="thankstome"]dark souls is being dumbed down its not made for a single console like it was originally for ps3.RyanShazam

I found Dark Souls to be just as challenging as Demon's Souls.

nm no way pc can dumb down games look how many buttons a keyboard has compared to a controller.
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#12 RyanShazam
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[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]

[QUOTE="thankstome"]dark souls is being dumbed down its not made for a single console like it was originally for ps3.thankstome

I found Dark Souls to be just as challenging as Demon's Souls.

nm no way pc can dumb down games look how many buttons a keyboard has compared to a controller.

What does the keyboard have to do with anything?

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#13 el3m2tigre
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[QUOTE="el3m2tigre"]

It's probably the other way around now.

RyanShazam

It wasn't until PC gaming entered the scene that they are changing their game.

Exactly. Clearly consoles can't handle all of that stuff.

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#14 Mario_Eater
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The fact that it is on PC has nothing to do with it being 'dumbed down'. Sounds like a simple case of making a more accessible sequel.
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#15 RyanShazam
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[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]

[QUOTE="el3m2tigre"]

It's probably the other way around now.

el3m2tigre

It wasn't until PC gaming entered the scene that they are changing their game.

Exactly. Clearly consoles can't handle all of that stuff.

Consoles could handle that stuff though... The first two games were for consoles.

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#16 thankstome
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[QUOTE="thankstome"][QUOTE="RyanShazam"]I found Dark Souls to be just as challenging as Demon's Souls.

RyanShazam

nm no way pc can dumb down games look how many buttons a keyboard has compared to a controller.

What does the keyboard have to do with anything?

you can have more control actions on a keyboard because of more buttons
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#17 RyanShazam
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[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]

[QUOTE="thankstome"] nm no way pc can dumb down games look how many buttons a keyboard has compared to a controller.thankstome

What does the keyboard have to do with anything?

you can have more control actions on a keyboard because of more buttons

So what?

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#18 thankstome
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[QUOTE="thankstome"][QUOTE="RyanShazam"]

What does the keyboard have to do with anything?

RyanShazam

you can have more control actions on a keyboard because of more buttons

So what?

meaning consoles dumb down pc games. not the otherway around. call of duty on pc you can lean and on console you cant. MORE BUTTONS
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[QUOTE="el3m2tigre"]

[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]

It wasn't until PC gaming entered the scene that they are changing their game.

RyanShazam

Exactly. Clearly consoles can't handle all of that stuff.

Consoles could handle that stuff though... The first two games were for consoles.

Ever think that maybe the game was a bit hard for the average console gamer? Ever think that MAYBE it's being dumbed down because perhaps they got 2 many compaints about it's difficulty? You probably didn't even though consoles games have been getting dumbed down since they started sharing games.
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Congrats for the dumbest thread of the day. You do relize PC gamers are on average older, and have supported more mature games such as The Witcher.

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#21 el3m2tigre
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[QUOTE="el3m2tigre"]

[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]

It wasn't until PC gaming entered the scene that they are changing their game.

RyanShazam

Exactly. Clearly consoles can't handle all of that stuff.

Consoles could handle that stuff though... The first two games were for consoles.

Yes but clearly it was underperforming on consoles. They needed to gut all that stuff just so consoles can run it properly. Jeez can't PC ever catch a break?

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#22 RyanShazam
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[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]

[QUOTE="el3m2tigre"]

Exactly. Clearly consoles can't handle all of that stuff.

kingtito

Consoles could handle that stuff though... The first two games were for consoles.

Ever think that maybe the game was a bit hard for the average console gamer? Ever think that MAYBE it's being dumbed down because perhaps they got 2 many compaints about it's difficulty? You probably didn't even though consoles games have been getting dumbed down since they started sharing games.

Its most likely PC gamers.

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#23 BPoole96
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wth...

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#24 RyanShazam
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[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]

[QUOTE="el3m2tigre"]

Exactly. Clearly consoles can't handle all of that stuff.

el3m2tigre

Consoles could handle that stuff though... The first two games were for consoles.

Yes but clearly it was underperforming on consoles. They needed to gut all that stuff just so consoles can run it properly. Jeez can't PC ever catch a break?

What do technical achievments have to do with the challenge of a game? Clearly PC gamers couldn't handle the complexity of the Souls series so in order to cater to PC gamers they had to make it easier.

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#25 RyanShazam
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[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]

[QUOTE="thankstome"] you can have more control actions on a keyboard because of more buttonsthankstome

So what?

meaning consoles dumb down pc games. not the otherway around. call of duty on pc you can lean and on console you cant. MORE BUTTONS

I think you missed the point of the thread...

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#26 RyanShazam
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wth...

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Haha just having some fun.

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#27 Wiimotefan
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This thread has potential.

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#28 RyanShazam
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This thread has potential.

Wiimotefan

You are probably the only person who read it lol

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#29 thankstome
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[QUOTE="thankstome"][QUOTE="RyanShazam"]

So what?

RyanShazam

meaning consoles dumb down pc games. not the otherway around. call of duty on pc you can lean and on console you cant. MORE BUTTONS

I think you missed the point of the thread...

lol rts and rpg and fps easier on consoles than pc i think u missed the bandwagon.
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#30 RyanShazam
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[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]

[QUOTE="thankstome"] meaning consoles dumb down pc games. not the otherway around. call of duty on pc you can lean and on console you cant. MORE BUTTONS thankstome

I think you missed the point of the thread...

lol rts and rpg and fps easier on consoles than pc i think u missed the bandwagon.

Flew right past your head.

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#31 thankstome
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[QUOTE="thankstome"][QUOTE="RyanShazam"]I think you missed the point of the thread...

RyanShazam

lol rts and rpg and fps easier on consoles than pc i think u missed the bandwagon.

Flew right past your head.

pc allows for more complex games period.
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#32 thankstome
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everything is being made easier now though so blame the devs not the pc it's a fact of life pc allows for more complex gameplay than a console though.
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#33 RyanShazam
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everything is being made easier now though so blame the devs not the pc it's a fact of life pc allows for more complex gameplay than a console though.thankstome

You do realize the main point I made was about the gamers themselves right?

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Dark Souls released for 360 and PS3 and was later released for PC. Now Dark Souls 2 is releasing for 360/PS3/PC and is being dumbed down.

Story: More straight forward and easier to understand

More Accessible...

Game progressively gets harder rather than very hard right at the beginning.

Seems like PC gamers couldn't handle Dark Souls and because of them us console gamers are getting shafted. What a sad time for console gamers everywhere. What are your thoughts on this disgrace to gaming? Are we going to see this as an ongoing trend in gaming?

:P

RyanShazam

and what other precedents are there for this? there are examples of games being dumbed down when going to consoles. crysis and deus ex come immediately to mind. remember that the game was new to the 360 as well. why are you so convinced that it's the pc's fault?

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#35 MrYaotubo
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What they´re making with the game is simply to make it sell better since compared to many other RPG´s it sells pretty bad,when they put it on PC they made a lot more money but they wqant Skyrim money,even The Witcher games on PC alione sell better than the Souls series so no wonder they weren´t happy. Games don´t get dumbed down because of the PC,and the majority of the deepest,hardest and most complex games in the market being PC exclusive are more than enough proof of that. They just want to make more money,would´ve happened either way,they don´t sell enough like The Witcher games or the STALKER series for instance(as far as challenging,core experiences are concerned),so what did you expect?
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#36 RyanShazam
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[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]

Dark Souls released for 360 and PS3 and was later released for PC. Now Dark Souls 2 is releasing for 360/PS3/PC and is being dumbed down.

Story: More straight forward and easier to understand

More Accessible...

Game progressively gets harder rather than very hard right at the beginning.

Seems like PC gamers couldn't handle Dark Souls and because of them us console gamers are getting shafted. What a sad time for console gamers everywhere. What are your thoughts on this disgrace to gaming? Are we going to see this as an ongoing trend in gaming?

:P

CaseyWegner

and what other precedents are there for this? there are examples of games being dumbed down when going to consoles. crysis and deus ex come immediately to mind. remember that the game was new to the 360 as well. why are you so convinced that it's the pc's fault?

The 360 is a console and Dark Souls was not casualized for the PC audience like DS2 is going to be.
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you got to be kidding TC....
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#38 RyanShazam
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you got to be kidding TC.... k2theswiss
HAHAHA Am i? Or am I not?

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[QUOTE="Wiimotefan"]

This thread has potential.

RyanShazam

You are probably the only person who read it lol

Maybe.

But the thread is now being taken seriously. Multi-paragraph responses and all. The potential is now becoming realized.

Good job!

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#40 RyanShazam
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[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]

[QUOTE="Wiimotefan"]

This thread has potential.

Wiimotefan

You are probably the only person who read it lol

Maybe.

But the thread is now being taken seriously. Multi-paragraph responses and all. The potential is now becoming realized.

Good job!

Thank you good sir!

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#41 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]

Dark Souls released for 360 and PS3 and was later released for PC. Now Dark Souls 2 is releasing for 360/PS3/PC and is being dumbed down.

Story: More straight forward and easier to understand

More Accessible...

Game progressively gets harder rather than very hard right at the beginning.

Seems like PC gamers couldn't handle Dark Souls and because of them us console gamers are getting shafted. What a sad time for console gamers everywhere. What are your thoughts on this disgrace to gaming? Are we going to see this as an ongoing trend in gaming?

:P

RyanShazam

and what other precedents are there for this? there are examples of games being dumbed down when going to consoles. crysis and deus ex come immediately to mind. remember that the game was new to the 360 as well. why are you so convinced that it's the pc's fault?

The 360 is a console and Dark Souls was not casualized for the PC audience like DS2 is going to be.

why are you blaming the pc when it was new to both the 360 and the pc? you also ignored my comment about precedents.

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#42 RyanShazam
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[QUOTE="RyanShazam"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

and what other precedents are there for this? there are examples of games being dumbed down when going to consoles. crysis and deus ex come immediately to mind. remember that the game was new to the 360 as well. why are you so convinced that it's the pc's fault?

CaseyWegner

The 360 is a console and Dark Souls was not casualized for the PC audience like DS2 is going to be.

why are you blaming the pc when it was new to both the 360 and the pc? you also ignored my comment about precedents.

PC version came later on. They probably would have dumbed down the PC version of Dark Souls if they knew PC gamers couldnt handle it. Unfortunaltey becasue of that us PS3/360 owners now get shafted with Dark Souls 2. I dont need anymore precedents. The 3 points I mentioned are enough to kill the hype of this game for any hardcore gamer like myself.

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#43 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="RyanShazam"] The 360 is a console and Dark Souls was not casualized for the PC audience like DS2 is going to be.RyanShazam

why are you blaming the pc when it was new to both the 360 and the pc? you also ignored my comment about precedents.

PC version came later on. They probably would have dumbed down the PC version of Dark Souls if they knew PC gamers couldnt handle it. Unfortunaltey becasue of that up PS3/360 owners now get shafted. I dont need anymore precedents. The 3 points I mentioned are enough to kill the hype of this game for any hardcore gamer like myself.

it came to the pc later and was the same game. it was new to both the 360 and pc. you haven't even listed a precedent.

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#44 Riadon2
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This thread gave me cancer...

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#45 Wiimotefan
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[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

why are you blaming the pc when it was new to both the 360 and the pc? you also ignored my comment about precedents.

CaseyWegner

PC version came later on. They probably would have dumbed down the PC version of Dark Souls if they knew PC gamers couldnt handle it. Unfortunaltey becasue of that up PS3/360 owners now get shafted. I dont need anymore precedents. The 3 points I mentioned are enough to kill the hype of this game for any hardcore gamer like myself.

it came to the pc later and was the same game. it was new to both the 360 and pc. you haven't even listed a precedent.

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pfft only PC you'll find this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFV2DgP_WIw

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#49 RyanShazam
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[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

why are you blaming the pc when it was new to both the 360 and the pc? you also ignored my comment about precedents.

CaseyWegner

PC version came later on. They probably would have dumbed down the PC version of Dark Souls if they knew PC gamers couldnt handle it. Unfortunaltey becasue of that up PS3/360 owners now get shafted. I dont need anymore precedents. The 3 points I mentioned are enough to kill the hype of this game for any hardcore gamer like myself.

it came to the pc later and was the same game. it was new to both the 360 and pc. you haven't even listed a precedent.

After releasing it later on PC they realized the PC audience couldn't handle the game so in order to make more money and have Dark Souls 2 on PC also they had to casualize it.

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#50 RyanShazam
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Too much light for OP's basement.

Im only in the basement when I want to game on my PC. Makes me feel like all the other PC gamers playing video games.