Is PC the only futureproof system?

Ya know with the new MGS4 patch today it got me thinking. What's going to happen to all our stuff down the road?
Servers will shut down. DLC will stop being offered and so on and so forth.

I mean a lets even next gen will our current stuff start to be taken down?

What happens if my current PS3 or 360 breaks or fails?
Will I be able to get all my stuff back, will it even still be offered in the future?

Or are we just doing the equivalent of burning our money?

It makes me release that something such as the PC, content will always be available one way or another. While the current and even future home systems will not always offer this content.

I mean has really anyone thought about the content we've spent money on and what's going to happen to it after all's said and done?

Even the PC will need upgrading or be taken off gaming at some point. So, I don't consider it future proof either.

Edit: The most flexible? Yes. Future proof? No.

Nope, hardware standards are changing all the time on PC.

However, it's the longest still-going platform and will likely never die out (evolve if needed).

Even the PC will need upgrading or be taken off gaming at some point. So, I don't consider it future proof either.

Edit: The most flexible? Yes. Future proof? No.

jun_aka_pekto

Nothing is "future proof." With consoles, your hardware will stop being supported and you'll only be able to play your games as long as you have a working system. With PC, the games will eventually stop working on new systems anyway.

It doesn't matter. Games get old and no longer hold up to newer standards.

I was just talking to my friend about this last night. With all the money I have spent on PSN games and all that, will the PS4 allow me to access that content again? What if I want to play some Castle Crashers or something in a few years and my PS3 is gone? Will I not have access to it? What about people who buy full retail games digitally on PSN? Can they play those games on their PS4?

That is why I have no problem with DD on PC, I know it is all tied to my Steam/Amazon accounts and I can access those games at any time. In my games library I could have a game that that I bought 10 years ago right next to a game that came out yesterday and I can play them right away. ON PSN/XBL, I have no guarantee that I will still have access to that content once the next console is out.

DRM is a major concern I have for PC gaming. Some games require you to have an always-on Internet connection and what will happen to them in 10 years time? What will happen when the developer or publisher decides to shut down the DRM servers? Will the games work?

I might want to play current games in 10 years time. I'm playing the DOOM classics nowadays because they're awesome! They're from 1993. With all of those stupid DRMs in modern games, I doubt I would be able to play them in 10 years time. :?

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Even the PC will need upgrading or be taken off gaming at some point. So, I don't consider it future proof either.

Edit: The most flexible? Yes. Future proof? No.

Animal-Mother

DRM is a major concern I have for PC gaming. Some games require you to have an always-on Internet connection and what will happen to them in 10 years time? What will happen when the developer or publisher decides to shut down the DRM servers? Will the games work?

I might want to play current games in 10 years time. I'm playing the DOOM classics nowadays because they're awesome! They're from 1993. With all of those stupid DRMs in modern games, I doubt I would be able to play them in 10 years time. :?

GamerwillzPS

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DRM is a major concern I have for PC gaming. Some games require you to have an always-on Internet connection and what will happen to them in 10 years time? What will happen when the developer or publisher decides to shut down the DRM servers? Will the games work?

I might want to play current games in 10 years time. I'm playing the DOOM classics nowadays because they're awesome! They're from 1993. With all of those stupid DRMs in modern games, I doubt I would be able to play them in 10 years time. :?

Animal-Mother

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

DRM is a major concern I have for PC gaming. Some games require you to have an always-on Internet connection and what will happen to them in 10 years time? What will happen when the developer or publisher decides to shut down the DRM servers? Will the games work?

I might want to play current games in 10 years time. I'm playing the DOOM classics nowadays because they're awesome! They're from 1993. With all of those stupid DRMs in modern games, I doubt I would be able to play them in 10 years time. :?

parkurtommo

DRM is a major concern I have for PC gaming. Some games require you to have an always-on Internet connection and what will happen to them in 10 years time? What will happen when the developer or publisher decides to shut down the DRM servers? Will the games work?

I might want to play current games in 10 years time. I'm playing the DOOM classics nowadays because they're awesome! They're from 1993. With all of those stupid DRMs in modern games, I doubt I would be able to play them in 10 years time. :?

GamerwillzPS

Nope Gakai and Sony are the future
Internet connections will improve over time, and nobody will need to upgrade hardware ever again.

Nope Gakai and Sony are the future

Davekeeh

Something you learn with PC is nothing is futureproof, everything get old fast with PC´s :cry:

I made a similar comment the other day in N4G and got like 100 disagrees and a bubble taken in a matter of minutes. People are in denial! The funny thing is that after every console generation the retro keeps living on the PC. Emulation is the only way to preserve gaming history.

Something you learn with PC is nothing is futureproof, everything get old fast with PC´s :cry:

aroxx_ab

[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

Even the PC will need upgrading or be taken off gaming at some point. So, I don't consider it future proof either.

Edit: The most flexible? Yes. Future proof? No.

Animal-Mother

I assume the "content" will be legal in which case, consoles will simply follow suit with the PC. After all, they share the same network and infrastructure.

Hermits are a dying breed, laugh at them while you can

[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

Even the PC will need upgrading or be taken off gaming at some point. So, I don't consider it future proof either.

Edit: The most flexible? Yes. Future proof? No.

Animal-Mother

Not exactly. Content belongs to the DD service provider, if they decide to shut down or somehow impair your account, say bye bye to all your games. Can't get em back because you can't play them (at least not legitimately). And with the PS3 you can always back up data on a hard drive. But ultimately you're paying money for the experience of playing the game, and so you're getting what you paid for. The nostalgia is really just a bonus.

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

Even the PC will need upgrading or be taken off gaming at some point. So, I don't consider it future proof either.

Edit: The most flexible? Yes. Future proof? No.

XVision84

Not exactly. Content belongs to the DD service provider, if they decide to shut down or somehow impair your account, say bye bye to all your games. Can't get em back because you can't play them (at least not legitimately). And with the PS3 you can always back up data on a hard drive. But ultimately you're paying money for the experience of playing the game, and so you're getting what you paid for. The nostalgia is really just a bonus.

Hermits are a dying breed, laugh at them while you can

Davekeeh

Oh damn, sexy lips!

Cow pornography is the best kind. We can have a threesome with my Playstation 3, and I'm sure she'll do wonders with my PS3 controller charging cable. Fine cow is fiiiiiiiiiine.

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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Well when I say future proof. I mean the recent heavy proliferation of the internet in the past 10 years. Content wise I am speaking, not hardware (that's something that will always continue to change) Content will disappear from sony, microsoft and nintys consoles. While on the PC at least there's always some means of getting it.Animal-Mother

Not exactly. Content belongs to the DD service provider, if they decide to shut down or somehow impair your account, say bye bye to all your games. Can't get em back because you can't play them (at least not legitimately). And with the PS3 you can always back up data on a hard drive. But ultimately you're paying money for the experience of playing the game, and so you're getting what you paid for. The nostalgia is really just a bonus.

Yes, I believe so. And everything you downloaded online is also stored on your account so you can download it later. The only problem is, once support for PS3 is disabled and consoles are no longer backwards compatible, everything on your hard drive will be completely useless. No platform really is futureproof, but I agree with you in saying that PC is by far the most futureproof. Anything you bought 20 years ago can still be accessed today either from the internet or if you happen to have it with you.

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="XVision84"]

Not exactly. Content belongs to the DD service provider, if they decide to shut down or somehow impair your account, say bye bye to all your games. Can't get em back because you can't play them (at least not legitimately). And with the PS3 you can always back up data on a hard drive. But ultimately you're paying money for the experience of playing the game, and so you're getting what you paid for. The nostalgia is really just a bonus.

XVision84

Yes, I believe so. And everything you downloaded online is also stored on your account so you can download it later. The only problem is, once support for PS3 is disabled and consoles are no longer backwards compatible, everything on your hard drive will be completely useless. No platform really is futureproof, but I agree with you in saying that PC is by far the most futureproof. Anything you bought 20 years ago can still be accessed today either from the internet or if you happen to have it with you.

no system is futureproof, but it is the most futureproof out of all the platforms due to being able to upgrade it to meet standards

no system is futureproof, but it is the most futureproof out of all the platforms due to being able to upgrade it to meet standards

seanmcloughlin

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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] I knew PS3 had a back up Hard drive to another hard drive. This does all DLC yada yada yada?Animal-Mother

Yes, I believe so. And everything you downloaded online is also stored on your account so you can download it later. The only problem is, once support for PS3 is disabled and consoles are no longer backwards compatible, everything on your hard drive will be completely useless. No platform really is futureproof, but I agree with you in saying that PC is by far the most futureproof. Anything you bought 20 years ago can still be accessed today either from the internet or if you happen to have it with you.

Yes, but remember the files are a little different. For example, Arkham City installed on a PC is different than Arkham City installed on PS3. You can always expect to execute Arkham City on new Operating Systems since there's almost always a way around whatever problems you face. With a PS3 on the other hand it's a little different due to the architecture of the file, OS, and how it sorts files. Unless there's a way to convert it seamlessly to a PC-playable file (or PS4/5-playable file) then really anything you have on there is useless.

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no system is futureproof, but it is the most futureproof out of all the platforms due to being able to upgrade it to meet standards

Davekeeh

Gaikai is game streaming, that means you don't actually own anything you stream and you won't be able to go back to it later on if it's not available. You either stream all your games and never actually own any of them, or you buy them and are able to stream them forever from their servers, but then the servers shut down and you can't access your games which means you never actually owned any of them. Either way you look at it, you're technically just paying them to "borrow" some data. Gaikai is a great idea, but once gaming goes digital, gaming will never be the same.

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no system is futureproof, but it is the most futureproof out of all the platforms due to being able to upgrade it to meet standards

Davekeeh

You want sh!t forced on you? You get sh!t forced on you.

It's funny how no gamers out there are petitioning for stuff like this or talking about it in a good way but this is the way it will go. People claim steam is bad but this is the worst. how will console gamers manage a service like this when they can't trade anything in after finishing it?

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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

no system is futureproof, but it is the most futureproof out of all the platforms due to being able to upgrade it to meet standards

XVision84

Gaikai is game streaming, that means you don't actually own anything you stream and you won't be able to go back to it later on if it's not available. You either stream all your games and never actually own any of them, or you buy them and are able to stream them forever from their servers, but then the servers shut down and you can't access your games which means you never actually owned any of them. Either way you look at it, you're technically just paying them to "borrow" some data. Gaikai is a great idea, but once gaming goes digital, gaming will never be the same.

Yep and that is when it will start to fizzle out. Gaming will always be relevant in some form but after next gen I think consoles are going to disappear and stuff like this will take over completely. The you are into the territory of having to watch advertisements before being able to play games like youtube, the games will also look worse like onlive along with all the bad points you listed.Gaming is heading into very dark territory

PC's are the least futureproof, every year a new series comes out (Doesn't mean it isn't usable). Consoles last 7-10 years (This gen anyway) Futureproof implies that it will not be quickly outdated,

PC's are the least futureproof, every year a new series comes out (Doesn't mean it isn't usable). Consoles last 7-10 years (This gen anyway) Futureproof implies that it will not be quickly outdated,

Maneil99

PC isn't future proof, just longer lasting

Since we are living at a time when technology advances quickly, I do not see how future-proof the PC platform is.

Something you learn with PC is nothing is futureproof, everything get old fast with PC´s :cry:

aroxx_ab

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Something you learn with PC is nothing is futureproof, everything get old fast with PC´s :cry:

ronvalencia

Nothing is "future proof." With consoles, your hardware will stop being supported and you'll only be able to play your games as long as you have a working system. With PC, the games will eventually stop working on new systems anyway.

It doesn't matter. Games get old and no longer hold up to newer standards.

Pug-Nasty

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"][QUOTE="aroxx_ab"]

Something you learn with PC is nothing is futureproof, everything get old fast with PC´s :cry:

BeardMaster

Run it at console levels.

I made a similar comment the other day in N4G and got like 100 disagrees and a bubble taken in a matter of minutes. People are in denial! The funny thing is that after every console generation the retro keeps living on the PC. Emulation is the only way to preserve gaming history.

Gue1

This. As long as there are people making emulators, old games won't die on the PC. Whether it's emulators for consoles, or even just old PC operating systems (DOSBOX rules). I still play ancient games pretty often, and I've never encountered a game that's too old to play (even with Windows 7). A lot of games can take a good bit of tweaking to make them work, but they will work. And yes, it will take a very long time before current consoles are being respectably emulated, but it will happen eventually. Even if it takes another 10 years, when Sony's networks are gone, and everyone's PS3s have crapped out on them, you'll be able to download an emulator, and pop your PS3 discs right in your PCs blu-ray drive (which is gonna be standard pretty soon).

It is the only futureproof system, because it's the only system that's upgradable and open. The first thing means it will never get outdated if you don't let it to, and the second one means that even developers can't kill their own games, you will always be able to find a way to make them work, even if it requires a lot of effort.

It is the only futureproof system, because it's the only system that's upgradable and open. The first thing means it will never get outdated if you don't let it to, and the second one means that even developers can't kill their own games, you will always be able to find a way to make them work, even if it requires a lot of effort.

AdrianWerner

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"][QUOTE="BeardMaster"] I wouldnt say fine, as i have one that i paid $600 for and it struggles to play crisis, which is an old PC game... and i already replaced it a year or two ago with a $100 card, so its definitely not future proof.BeardMaster

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Crysis PC's CryEngine 2 doesn't run on Xbox 360/PS3 i.e. refer to CryEngine 3 powered Crysis 2. On the PC, max details is a moving target.

thats like saying the ipad is futureproof as long as you keep buying the new version of it.BeardMaster

For now it is, but since it's closed system it won't last.

futureproof means something doesnt need upgrades.BeardMaster

According to you, I disagree.

According to you, I disagree.AdrianWerner

[QUOTE="BeardMaster"][QUOTE="ronvalencia"] Play it at console levels.ronvalencia

1280x720p and medium details. Note that some multi-platform console games renders below 1280x720p.

Crysis PC's CryEngine 2 doesn't run on Xbox 360/PS3 i.e. refer to CryEngine 3 powered Crysis 2. On the PC, max details is a moving target.