Is PC version of Forza 7 the definitive edition version?(sorry lemmings, you're stuck at 60fps)

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#1 daredevils2k
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With all the news about Forza 7 pc version being uncapped, it sure has gotten this pc gamer excited for the game. But also i'm starting feel sorry for the lems who are stuck at playing lesser version on the xb1x ( mid grapihcs settings stuck at 60fps), in which the game was made for.

Which brings up another question, Has MS quietly jumped shipped and head on over to the pc camp? and left the lemmings sailing to their deaths?




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Oh dear me, how will I ever survive.

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Lol... thanks for the laugh.

You cows really are desperate to knock down the X aren't you? Never seen so many salty tears. It's amazing.

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#5 PinkAnimal
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I think it is quite obvious MS is turning its focus back to PC. Their console is slowly turning to be an afterthought. MS revival of Age on Empires only for PC, their move of all Xbox exclusives to PC, the decrease on investment for first party titles and companies for the Xbox and the unification of the network is more than enough proof. I wouldn't be surprised if they factor the console out and stick to trying to compete with Steam and other PC services or keep the console but just as a backup not trying to compete in that area in a full way.

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#6  Edited By hrt_rulz01
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@pinkanimal said:

I think it is quite obvious MS is turning its focus back to PC. Their console is slowly turning to be an afterthought. MS revival of Age on Empires only for PC, their move of all Xbox exclusives to PC, the decrease on investment for first party titles and companies for the Xbox and the unification of the network is more than enough proof. I wouldn't be surprised if they factor the console out and stick to trying to compete with Steam and other PC services or keep the console but just as a backup not trying to compete in that area in a full way.

Lmao... I'm sure you have wet dreams over that scenario.

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@hrt_rulz01 said:
@pinkanimal said:

I think it is quite obvious MS is turning its focus back to PC. Their console is slowly turning to be an afterthought. MS revival of Age on Empires only for PC, their move of all Xbox exclusives to PC, the decrease on investment for first party titles and companies for the Xbox and the unification of the network is more than enough proof. I wouldn't be surprised if they factor the console out and stick to trying to compete with Steam and other PC services or keep the console but just as a backup not trying to compete in that area in a full way.

Lmao... I'm sure you have wet dreams over that scenario.

Why? It is just a natural progression of the industry. Actually in the future consoles, as we know them, are probably not going to become the norm but something closer to PC where you upgrade components or modules or the focus is on services rather than hardware. It's just clear for me that MS is looking at that future and betting for it earlier than others. I wouldn't be surprised if Sony ends up being third party company in the future either. But Sony still has a much bigger compromise with their console than MS and that's easy to see. MS seems to be caring less and less with each passing day which is why I think it is a waste of money to invest in them now. I will stop investing in Sony when they stop caring too.

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#8 speedfreak48t5p
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Feeling sorry about us being "stuck" at 60FPS? Yeah, I think we'll be fine.

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#9 QuadKnight
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Lems = Rekt.

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#10  Edited By CanYouDiglt
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lol cows are hiding behind the PC so bad now they are trying to act like 4k 60 fps with most PC settings is bad in order to bash the X1X.

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#11  Edited By EndofAugust
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This shit is just getting dumb at this point... Now ultra'ish settings at native 4K and 60 FPS on a console is not impressive. I've never seen such terrible shit posting in my life, and what makes it even worse is that you're trying to be serious.

Also why does it matter if the Xbox One X is stuck at 60 FPS? There's no monitors or displays available at 4K that offer a refresh rate beyond 60hz...

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#12 Atomolog
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Trashing 4k 60fps forza is just ridiculous.

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#14  Edited By Ryu_Silveira
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Stuck at 60 frames? Hahaha bro are you acting dumb or are you plain stupid? Since when is 60 frames a bad thing; it's how you're making it out to be...lmfao.

Please do us all a favor and don't come back to this site. We have enough stupidity as is...

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Oh no! Only 60FPS? Whatever shall we do? If you're so interested in the X1X, get it. No reason to be scared of it.

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#16  Edited By appariti0n
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In all fairness, 60 fps on a racing title where you can only turn as quickly as the car you're driving, is fine.

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@CanYouDiglt said:

lol cows are hiding behind the PC so bad now they are trying to act like 4k 60 fps with most PC settings is bad in order to bash the X1X.

Sorry buddy, but no one is hiding behind their pc, LOOK at my Specs. So sad that Xb1x will be running this game at Medium settings at 60fps 4k.

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#18  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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Hold up, Forza 7 can do 60fps on Xbox One X? Has Sciences really come this far?

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#19 CanYouDiglt
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@daredevils2k said:
@CanYouDiglt said:

lol cows are hiding behind the PC so bad now they are trying to act like 4k 60 fps with most PC settings is bad in order to bash the X1X.

Sorry buddy, but no one is hiding behind their pc, LOOK at my Specs. So sad that Xb1x will be running this game at Medium settings at 60fps 4k.

So the X1X version will be 4k at 60fps? AWESOME!

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@CanYouDiglt said:
@daredevils2k said:
@CanYouDiglt said:

lol cows are hiding behind the PC so bad now they are trying to act like 4k 60 fps with most PC settings is bad in order to bash the X1X.

Sorry buddy, but no one is hiding behind their pc, LOOK at my Specs. So sad that Xb1x will be running this game at Medium settings at 60fps 4k.

So the X1X version will be 4k at 60fps? AWESOME!

@Medium settings.

PC

definitive edition confirmed.

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#21 CanYouDiglt
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@daredevils2k said:
@CanYouDiglt said:
@daredevils2k said:
@CanYouDiglt said:

lol cows are hiding behind the PC so bad now they are trying to act like 4k 60 fps with most PC settings is bad in order to bash the X1X.

Sorry buddy, but no one is hiding behind their pc, LOOK at my Specs. So sad that Xb1x will be running this game at Medium settings at 60fps 4k.

So the X1X version will be 4k at 60fps? AWESOME!

@Medium settings.

PC

definitive edition confirmed.

So the X1X version will be 4k at 60fps with most PC settings? AWESOME!

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@daredevils2k said:
@CanYouDiglt said:

lol cows are hiding behind the PC so bad now they are trying to act like 4k 60 fps with most PC settings is bad in order to bash the X1X.

Sorry buddy, but no one is hiding behind their pc, LOOK at my Specs. So sad that Xb1x will be running this game at Medium settings at 60fps 4k.

Ugh no, they've already confirmed its graphically spec'd in the Ultra range with custom configurations.

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@daredevils2k:

What I find funny is you laugh at a console for achieving only 30fps when the PC counterpart runs the exact same game at 60fps. Now a console have a game that it can completely run it at 60fps, and now since the PC counterpart runs it in a uncapped framerate you PC elitist laugh at the X1X. Stop moving the goalpost!!!

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#24  Edited By daredevils2k
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@ermacness said:

@daredevils2k:

What I find funny is you laugh at a console for achieving only 30fps when the PC counterpart runs the exact same game at 60fps. Now a console have a game that it can completely run it at 60fps, and now since the PC counterpart runs it in a uncapped framerate you PC elitist laugh at the X1X. Stop moving the goalpost!!!

Well the post was asking a question which is, Is the PC version the definitive edition due to uncapped frame rates, then we some Lemming( @CanYouDiglt ) who thought I was some cow using the pc excuse, but when I showed him my specs, he quickly deflected his self ownage. so my question to you is, WHY can't Lemmings be honest and state that the PC has the definitive version!!!

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#25 EndofAugust
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@daredevils2k said:
@ermacness said:

@daredevils2k:

What I find funny is you laugh at a console for achieving only 30fps when the PC counterpart runs the exact same game at 60fps. Now a console have a game that it can completely run it at 60fps, and now since the PC counterpart runs it in a uncapped framerate you PC elitist laugh at the X1X. Stop moving the goalpost!!!

Well the post was asking a question which is, Is the PC version the definitive edition due to uncapped frame rates, then we some Lemming( @CanYouDiglt ) who thought I was some cow using the pc excuse, but when I showed my specs, he quickly hid deflected his self ownage. so my question to you is, WHY can't Lemmings be honest and state that the PC has the definitive version!!!

Again, what in the hell does an uncapped framerate matter if you're stuck at a 60hz refresh rate?

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@endofaugust said:
@daredevils2k said:
@ermacness said:

@daredevils2k:

What I find funny is you laugh at a console for achieving only 30fps when the PC counterpart runs the exact same game at 60fps. Now a console have a game that it can completely run it at 60fps, and now since the PC counterpart runs it in a uncapped framerate you PC elitist laugh at the X1X. Stop moving the goalpost!!!

Well the post was asking a question which is, Is the PC version the definitive edition due to uncapped frame rates, then we some Lemming( @CanYouDiglt ) who thought I was some cow using the pc excuse, but when I showed my specs, he quickly hid deflected his self ownage. so my question to you is, WHY can't Lemmings be honest and state that the PC has the definitive version!!!

Again, what in the hell does an uncapped framerate matter if you're stuck at a 60hz refresh rate?

Well I understand that your stuck at 60hz, but my monitor is 60hz at 5k and 120hz @ 4k so ..... /shrug

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so pc 4k uncapped frames [no HDR]

Xbox 1x 4k 60fps on a 60hrz tv [with HDR]

great choice over all

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@granddogg said:

so pc 4k uncapped frames [no HDR]

Xbox 1x 4k 60fps on a 60hrz tv [with HDR]

great choice over all

4k HDR monitor are here.

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#29 Dr_Vancouver
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IDK how "obvious" it is that they're giving up on console gaming, especially since they've been digging deep in their own pockets to launch a new top tier console.

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#30 ConanTheStoner
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I mean, a PC version of a multiplat should always be better if you have the machine for it. Barring a shitty port here and there, that's just how it goes.

But I'm not gonna scoff at a 60fps console game. 60fps is great for most racing games. Most games in general really. And a console game hitting 60fps at 4k with that level of fidelity? Pretty impressive tbh.

@appariti0n said:

In all fairness, 60 fps on a racing title where you can only turn as quickly as the car you're driving, is fine.

Yup.

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@daredevils2k said:
@CanYouDiglt said:

lol cows are hiding behind the PC so bad now they are trying to act like 4k 60 fps with most PC settings is bad in order to bash the X1X.

Sorry buddy, but no one is hiding behind their pc, LOOK at my Specs. So sad that Xb1x will be running this game at Medium settings at 60fps 4k.

Why Medium settings when earlier Forzatech X1X reveal has Ultra settings solid 60 fps 4K Ultra when GTX 1070 was dropping below 60 fps during wet track?

X1X was optimized for ForzaTech's wet track with 2MB render cache for it's RBE/ROPS path and wet track has heavy RBE driven alpha effects.

RBE = Render Back End.

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#33 granddogg
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@Jebus213: last time I check the pc version didn't have HDR

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It doesn't matter because it's got a game breaking bug. All you do is go round and round.

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#35  Edited By pelvist
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@granddogg said:

so pc 4k uncapped frames [no HDR]

Xbox 1x 4k 60fps on a 60hrz tv [with HDR]

great choice over all

  • PC version has HDR support
  • 4k HDR monitors
  • PC can use TVs too, its a new thing thats been around since forever
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#36 lexxluger
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Umm, if Forza 7 is locked at 60fps on X1X then it doesn't matter what frame rate the PC is sporting because you're honestly not going to experience a difference in gameplay at that point.

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#37  Edited By pelvist
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@lexxluger: Thats what they said about 30 vs 60. There is a notifiable difference going from 60 to 144 too. Id personally rather have a stable and higher frame rate than 4k any day. I dont even own a 4k monitor and I dont intend to buy one any time soon.

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#38  Edited By lexxluger
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@pelvist said:

@lexxluger: Thats what they said about 30 vs 60. There is a notifiable difference going from 60 to 144 too. Id personally rather have a stable and higher frame rate than 4k any day. I dont even own a 4k monitor and I dont intend to buy one any time soon.

A notifiable difference in gameplay?

Sure, I'll play along. Can you show me an example? Just one that proves your stance?

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Cows boasting about their PC's is the norm on SW now.

The cows loss of power = the loss of their minds lol.

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@CanYouDiglt said:

lol cows are hiding behind the PC so bad now they are trying to act like 4k 60 fps with most PC settings is bad in order to bash the X1X.

Yep... I'm guessing we'll see more and more of them hiding behind PC. Especially once the Digital Foundry comparisons start coming in. Lol.

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#41  Edited By lexxluger
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Cows boasting about their PC's is the norm on SW now.

The cows loss of power = the loss of their minds lol.

So that's what happened to xbox fans this entire generation then? Hopefully X1X is the light in the dark that helps you guys regain your sanity.

Without games to fall back on, power is a pretty shallow talking point to loose one's mind over IMO but if it's all you have to look forward to I can see why it affect certain groups worse than others.

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@lexxluger said:
@pelvist said:

@lexxluger: Thats what they said about 30 vs 60. There is a notifiable difference going from 60 to 144 too. Id personally rather have a stable and higher frame rate than 4k any day. I dont even own a 4k monitor and I dont intend to buy one any time soon.

A notifiable difference in gameplay?

Sure, I'll play along. Can you show me an example? Just one that proves your stance?

I would venture to say that there's still a somewhat noticeable difference between 60 fps, and maybe up to 90 fps. Supposedly for the vast majority of the population, that's where diminishing returns kick in big time. I only own a 144 hz monitor, because there wasn't a 100 hz monitor for less money available.

But come on, the difference when you go above 60 fps is nowhere near the difference when going from 30 to 60. Not even close.

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@appariti0n said:
@lexxluger said:
@pelvist said:

@lexxluger: Thats what they said about 30 vs 60. There is a notifiable difference going from 60 to 144 too. Id personally rather have a stable and higher frame rate than 4k any day. I dont even own a 4k monitor and I dont intend to buy one any time soon.

A notifiable difference in gameplay?

Sure, I'll play along. Can you show me an example? Just one that proves your stance?

I would venture to say that there's still a somewhat noticeable difference between 60 fps, and maybe up to 90 fps. Supposedly for the vast majority of the population, that's where diminishing returns kick in big time. I only own a 144 hz monitor, because there wasn't a 100 hz monitor for less money available.

But come on, the difference when you go above 60 fps is nowhere near the difference when going from 30 to 60. Not even close.

My point for asking for the example!

I didn't make the argument for a big difference over 60fps, the other guy did.

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#44  Edited By appariti0n
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@lexxluger: I know, I was agreeing with you :). sorry if that wasn't clear.

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#45  Edited By granddogg
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@pelvist: really i didnt know i could play my pc on my ks8000...im shocked...

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@lexxluger said:
@i_p_daily said:

Cows boasting about their PC's is the norm on SW now.

The cows loss of power = the loss of their minds lol.

So that's what happened to xbox fans this entire generation then? Hopefully X1X is the light in the dark that helps you guys regain your sanity.

Without games to fall back on, power is a pretty shallow talking point to loose one's mind over IMO but if it's all you have to look forward to I can see why it affect certain groups worse than others.

Nah I don't give a shit about power, but damn we've seen a ton of DF videos showing how powerful the PS4 is all gen, and now with the X being more powerful, cows have run to their PC's, it's just so funny lol.

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@daredevils2k said:
@endofaugust said:
@daredevils2k said:
@ermacness said:

@daredevils2k:

What I find funny is you laugh at a console for achieving only 30fps when the PC counterpart runs the exact same game at 60fps. Now a console have a game that it can completely run it at 60fps, and now since the PC counterpart runs it in a uncapped framerate you PC elitist laugh at the X1X. Stop moving the goalpost!!!

Well the post was asking a question which is, Is the PC version the definitive edition due to uncapped frame rates, then we some Lemming( @CanYouDiglt ) who thought I was some cow using the pc excuse, but when I showed my specs, he quickly hid deflected his self ownage. so my question to you is, WHY can't Lemmings be honest and state that the PC has the definitive version!!!

Again, what in the hell does an uncapped framerate matter if you're stuck at a 60hz refresh rate?

Well I understand that your stuck at 60hz, but my monitor is 60hz at 5k and 120hz @ 4k so ..... /shrug

And what monitor would that be.

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#48  Edited By BassMan
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I have a 1440p/144hz G-Sync display. However, I prefer to play FM6: Apex and FH3 on my 4K/60hz TV with my racing cockpit. I also played plenty of FM6 on X1 at 1080p/60fps and enjoyed it. So, the fact FM7 is doing 4K/60fps is nothing to look down on. The games that are running at 30fps are the ones that you guys should be shitting on.

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#49 xhawk27
Member since 2010 • 12194 Posts

@Jebus213 said:
@granddogg said:

so pc 4k uncapped frames [no HDR]

Xbox 1x 4k 60fps on a 60hrz tv [with HDR]

great choice over all

4k HDR monitor are here.

The Asus and Acer 4k HDR g-sync monitors have been delayed until 2018.

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#50 demi0227_basic
Member since 2002 • 1940 Posts

HDR is going to be the biggest differentiator. Are they keeping hdr on console for an "advantage?" 1440/60+fps will be great, but 4k/hdr would be better. HDR really, really makes the image "pop." It's just beautiful. A poster above linked a pcgamer article stating pc WILL have hdr, but I've seen conflicting info on this. FH3 had no hdr for some reason (real letdown). It'd be nice to know whether it will have it or not.