Is PS3 in dead last place because it doesnt have any AAA exclusives?

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#1 Spider-Jones
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Do poor sales have anything to do with the lack of qulaity exclusives?

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#2 Chutebox
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I was unaware that all the consumers in the world view GS reviews.

I think the fact that it's the most expensive console still(just by a little now) has something to do with it.

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#3 Taalon
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Lack of quality exclusives? Just because they aren't 10/10 doesn't mean they're not quality. I would say the last place is due to the price.
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#4 Ragnarok1051
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I think it's because it launched with a high cost and hasn't lost the image yet.
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#5 Taalon
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I was unaware that all the consumers in the world view GS reviews.

I think the fact that it's the most expensive console still(just by a little now) has something to do with it.

Chutebox


What is it with you and having the exact same thoughts as me :|
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#6 -Montauk-
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Most of the reason I haven't bought one yet is because of the price, that and there aren't really enough games I want out yet to justify it for myself.
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#7 Shift05
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PS3 overall library is still quit far ahead of the Wii's, about twice the amount of AAA games, and twice the amount of AA's.
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#8 Utensilman
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lack of games....but hey! i hear it's a hell of a Blu-ray player!
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#9 bobaban
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Lack of quality exclusives? Just because they aren't 10/10 doesn't mean they're not quality. I would say the last place is due to the price.Taalon

Yet it still outsold the 360 in 07. America is not the world. GS doesn't represent the world either.

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#10 Senor_Kami
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Its had quality exclusives. But if you trust vgchartz, the best charting game was a multiplat. I don't think its a lack of exclusives that are hurting it. Its price. $399 is alot of money. Even if its a value, $399 is alot of money to drop on something.
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#11 black_awpN1
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Some SW users seem to be mixing up GS with the real world. In the real world, there are other review sites. Most of those Review sites have scored atleast 1 PS3 game a AAAE status, GS has not. So in the real world we live in, it has quit a Few AAAE titles, but in GS land there is not, but of course GS land dosent count for much.

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#12 maabus99
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No, price point is the reason.
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#13 Taalon
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[QUOTE="Taalon"]Lack of quality exclusives? Just because they aren't 10/10 doesn't mean they're not quality. I would say the last place is due to the price.bobaban

Yet it still outsold the 360 in 07. America is not the world. GS doesn't represent the world either.



I come off sounding as a cow since there's so much PS3 bashing on here. I actually own all handhelds and consoles, plus a gaming PC. Unfortunately for me there are some major fanboys on here...
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#14 Nonam3gamer
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It's really quite simple, there simply isn't a market that would buy the Ps3.

As the 360 came out first, there is no need to buy the more expensive and year late Ps3 for the multiplats and the exclusive library isn't even in the same league as the Wii or X360 and has been the only console this gen, last gen, or the gen before that to not have an AAAE in its first year.

People won't spend hundreds of dollars on something if there is no reason to.

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[QUOTE="Taalon"]Lack of quality exclusives? Just because they aren't 10/10 doesn't mean they're not quality. I would say the last place is due to the price.bobaban

Yet it still outsold the 360 in 07. America is not the world. GS doesn't represent the world either.

Thank God.

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#16 black_awpN1
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No, price point is the reason.maabus99

400 bucks is too pricey? i admit its still 50 more than the Pro 360 model, but thats about it. PS3 is quit affordable now.

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#17 starmetroid
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no there are other reasons too
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#18 maabus99
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[QUOTE="maabus99"]No, price point is the reason.black_awpN1

400 bucks is too pricey? i admit its still 50 more than the Pro 360 model, but thats about it. PS3 is quit affordable now.

It wasn't a year ago at release. And yes 400 is a ton with the current US economy for the average Joe who is increasing credit debt on average 11% a month. Probably also why the 360 has stalled out is somewhat high amount to spend when money is tight for folks.

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#19 chaos-SD
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Hahaha that's cute...*looks at sales figures*...NEXT!!!
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#20 htekemerald
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

I was unaware that all the consumers in the world view GS reviews.

I think the fact that it's the most expensive console still(just by a little now) has something to do with it.

Taalon


What is it with you and having the exact same thoughts as me :|

GameRankings: 0 AAAE
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#21 raynimrod
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Yeah it's in last place because of Gamespot reviews :roll:
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#22 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Taalon"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]

I was unaware that all the consumers in the world view GS reviews.

I think the fact that it's the most expensive console still(just by a little now) has something to do with it.

htekemerald



What is it with you and having the exact same thoughts as me :|

GameRankings: 0 AAAE

Still waiting for your point.

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#23 MikeE21286
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Yes, Gamespot's review score and AAA count has a direct impact on Sony's sales
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no i say its because of nintendo finally realising , and doing somthing never done before thats what holds sony back ,, they used same stuff from past generations , if their lucky theyll slip up to second,

price has 0 to do with why sonys dead last, remember , theres a 399,99 ps3 out there,,

theres a 399,99 360 out there so why would it be the price

maybe every one is sick of the same stuff,

controller nothing different except somthing they took out of nintendos books , hence why not many are going with the gimmick , or the brand name for that matter

sony had 2 yrs good in the market, but like nintendo their on their third console and usually by the third excluding sega whom lost every console war they stepped in to and maybe ms

i think its finally nintendos time to be at the top

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#25 htekemerald
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[QUOTE="htekemerald"][QUOTE="Taalon"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]

I was unaware that all the consumers in the world view GS reviews.

I think the fact that it's the most expensive console still(just by a little now) has something to do with it.

Chutebox



What is it with you and having the exact same thoughts as me :|

GameRankings: 0 AAAE

Still waiting for your point.

Gamespot =/= the world having 0 AAAEs for the PS3 yet Gamerankings has 0 AAAEs. Odd how they both agree.

Happy now?

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#26 Arsenal325
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came out a year later then the 360 with the wii and it was the most money.. lol not hard.. but poor sales? come on it doesnt have poor sales.. they arent getting expected sales but they arent doing the worst..
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ps3 has quality exclusives, the ps3 is in third place because of a steep starting price, the inclusion of blu ray which upped the price all around, delays of big name games, and also the difficulty of development has detracted third party devs from making more games for it which would have drawn in more people, thats it thats all, oh and also sony being more arrogent then m$ didnt help either.
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#28 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="htekemerald"][QUOTE="Taalon"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]

I was unaware that all the consumers in the world view GS reviews.

I think the fact that it's the most expensive console still(just by a little now) has something to do with it.

htekemerald



What is it with you and having the exact same thoughts as me :|

GameRankings: 0 AAAE

Still waiting for your point.

Gamespot =/= the world having 0 AAAEs for the PS3 yet Gamerankings has 0 AAAEs. Odd how they both agree.

Happy now?

No because it's still the same freaking thing. I didn't even hear about Gamerankings until I came to this site. Plenty of magazines and sites rank Ps3 exclusives AAA and plenty rank it below.

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#29 ANti_RiCeR
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Price.
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#30 Chutebox
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no i say its because of nintendo finally realising , and doing somthing never done before thats what holds sony back ,, they used same stuff from past generations , if their lucky theyll slip up to second,

price has 0 to do with why sonys dead last, remember , theres a 399,99 ps3 out there,,

theres a 399,99 360 out there so why would it be the price

maybe every one is sick of the same stuff,

controller nothing different except somthing they took out of nintendos books , hence why not many are going with the gimmick , or the brand name for that matter

sony had 2 yrs good in the market, but like nintendo their on their third console and usually by the third excluding sega whom lost every console war they stepped in to and maybe ms

i think its finally nintendos time to be at the top

mariokart64fan

$400 is still a bit on the hefty said for a console, even with all the good things that come with Ps3. When it's at $300 bucks then it is nearing the sweet spot that the Wii is at.

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#31 raynimrod
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Gamespot =/= the world having 0 AAAEs for the PS3 yet Gamerankings has 0 AAAEs. Odd how they both agree.

Happy now?

htekemerald


It must be really sad how the 360 has only 1 AAAE on Gamerankings then huh? And knowing Halo, it probably won't stay that way.
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#32 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="htekemerald"] Gamespot =/= the world having 0 AAAEs for the PS3 yet Gamerankings has 0 AAAEs. Odd how they both agree.

Happy now?

raynimrod



It must be really sad how the 360 has only 1 AAAE on Gamerankings then huh? And knowing Halo, it probably won't stay that way.

Zing!

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[QUOTE="htekemerald"] Gamespot =/= the world having 0 AAAEs for the PS3 yet Gamerankings has 0 AAAEs. Odd how they both agree.

Happy now?

raynimrod



It must be really sad how the 360 has only 1 AAAE on Gamerankings then huh? And knowing Halo, it probably won't stay that way.

halo 3 + graw = 2

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#34 raynimrod
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[QUOTE="raynimrod"][QUOTE="htekemerald"] Gamespot =/= the world having 0 AAAEs for the PS3 yet Gamerankings has 0 AAAEs. Odd how they both agree.

Happy now?

CaseyWegner



It must be really sad how the 360 has only 1 AAAE on Gamerankings then huh? And knowing Halo, it probably won't stay that way.

halo 3 + graw = 2



Here to save the day with the old GRAW debate Casey lol :P? We aren't talking about GS here, they're talking about AAAE's so far as GR is concerned. Yes on GS Graw is considered exclusive, but to GR it is not.
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[QUOTE="raynimrod"][QUOTE="htekemerald"] Gamespot =/= the world having 0 AAAEs for the PS3 yet Gamerankings has 0 AAAEs. Odd how they both agree.

Happy now?

CaseyWegner



It must be really sad how the 360 has only 1 AAAE on Gamerankings then huh? And knowing Halo, it probably won't stay that way.

halo 3 + graw = 2

Like he said it'll be one, Halo 3 is bound to go PC.

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Here to save the day with the old GRAW debate Casey lol :P? We aren't talking about GS here, they're talking about AAAE's so far as GR is concerned. Yes on GS Graw is considered exclusive, but to GR it is not.raynimrod

um...why?

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Like he said it'll be one, Halo 3 is bound to go PC.

Ragnarok1051

until it does...

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#38 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="raynimrod"][QUOTE="htekemerald"] Gamespot =/= the world having 0 AAAEs for the PS3 yet Gamerankings has 0 AAAEs. Odd how they both agree.

Happy now?

CaseyWegner



It must be really sad how the 360 has only 1 AAAE on Gamerankings then huh? And knowing Halo, it probably won't stay that way.

halo 3 + graw = 2

Dude above brought up GR, so we were talking about that.

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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="raynimrod"][QUOTE="htekemerald"] Gamespot =/= the world having 0 AAAEs for the PS3 yet Gamerankings has 0 AAAEs. Odd how they both agree.

Happy now?

Chutebox



It must be really sad how the 360 has only 1 AAAE on Gamerankings then huh? And knowing Halo, it probably won't stay that way.

halo 3 + graw = 2

Dude above brought up GR, so we were talking about that.

i was correcting his mistake.

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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="raynimrod"][QUOTE="htekemerald"] Gamespot =/= the world having 0 AAAEs for the PS3 yet Gamerankings has 0 AAAEs. Odd how they both agree.

Happy now?

CaseyWegner



It must be really sad how the 360 has only 1 AAAE on Gamerankings then huh? And knowing Halo, it probably won't stay that way.

halo 3 + graw = 2

Dude above brought up GR, so we were talking about that.

i was correcting his mistake.

Ah, gotcha.

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#41 dimebag667
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I think "dead last" would insinuate theres no chance of success. Theres no arguing its in last place, but jeez, it hasn't even tapped into its catalog of games yet. All the exclusives so far have been new IPs for the most part. I'm not saying its gonna dominate the world anytime soon, but I doubt I will see many of these "ps3 is doomed" posts in a few months
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#42 gtawoof
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PS3 is in last place because its not 250$ and it came out a year after its other competition.
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#43 chaos-SD
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*re-enters thread...looks at sales again...laughs! moves on to next thread*
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It main problem is that it is far more expensive than 360, and offers nothing more, in fact its graphics can't touch 360 ones

Also the 40GB model has no PS2 BC, you do not get achievements or custom music lists in games

On top, has zero RPG's for years now, and generally mostly shooter games, especially in 2008, so nar zero diversity in its lineup

All the above are serious reasons that PS3 will fail

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PS3 has plenty of great games. No one outside here gives a damn or even knows about GS's scores. Fact is PS3 has a few great exclusives, tons of multiplats, and some huge exclusives coming on the horizon. And BTW it's catching up to 360 even without the huge exclusives out so it's pretty stupid to condem it as "dead last".
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#47 Chutebox
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It main problem is that it is far more expensive than 360, and offers nothing more, in fact its graphics can't touch 360 ones

Also the 40GB model has no PS2 BC, you do not get achievements or custom music lists in games

On top, has zero RPG's for years now, and generally mostly shooter games, especially in 2008, so nar zero diversity in its lineup

All the above are serious reasons that PS3 will fail

saolin323

Lol, there is nothing serious about this post, or any other post you ever make. Not to mention your whole post is 100% wrong, well the parts of your post that aren't opinion that is.

I'll give ya music though, but it will be put in soon.

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It main problem is that it is far more expensive than 360
Completely incorrect. If we want to compare the cheapest standard version of either console, their official sites (www.playstation.com and www.xbox.com) give the following prices:

PS3 40GB: $399
Xbox 360: $349

So suddenly $50 is far more expensive? Not to mention the Xbox 360 doesn't support HDMI - lacks web browser, OS installation, Blu-Ray playback, free online gaming, free wireless adapter, third-party accessory support and shall I mention the fact that its exclusives don't get ported to PC a few months later.

offers nothing more, in fact its graphics can't touch 360 ones
Offers nothing more? As I said before, it has a web browser with full Flash Player support and RSS feeds, OS installation allowing Linux and Windows, Blu-Ray games and movies, free online gaming support for every game, free wireless adapter unlike the 360's $99.99 ripoff, third-party support for accessories, replaceable HDD of any size, functionality with the PSP, Sixaxis controller, and much more.

And the graphics aren't anywhere near the 360's?

Gran Turismo 5: Prologue (in-game screenshots from the demo)







All of these screens are rendered in-game by the PS3. Sure beats the crap out of your hideous Fable 2 trees.

Also the 40GB model has no PS2 BC, you do not get achievements or custom music lists in games
The Xbox 360 arcade doesn't support Xbox games either - and while it may not include achievements or custom music for every single game, is this really such an amazing advantage? No, it's not.

On top, has zero RPG's for years now, and generally mostly shooter games, especially in 2008, so nar zero diversity in its lineup
RPG Games out now:
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
Enchanted Arms
Marvel: Ultimate Alliance
Untold Legends: Dark Kingdom
The Elder Scrolls IV: Shivering Isles
Folklore

RPG Games coming soon:
Final Fantasy XIII
Final Fantasy Versus XIII
Valkyria Chronicles
Star Ocean 4
Fallout 3
The Last Remnant
Golden Axe: Beast Rider
Elveon
The Lord Of The Rings: The White Council
Eternal Sonata
Shin Megami Tensei
Two Worlds: The Temptation
Rise Of The Argonauts
Angel Rings
Omikron 2
Project D
Bumpy Trot 2
Makai Wars
Dungeon Lords 2
Master Project

It's mainly shooters? No diversity? Let's have a real look:

Action Adventure: 19
Action: 20
Shooters: 16
RPG: 6
MMO: 1
Strategy: 2
Racing: 16

Sports: 38
Platformers: 7
Adventure: 2
Fighting: 4
Simulators: 2
Combat Sims: 4
Puzzle: 7
Rhythm: 2
Card Battle: 2
Virtual Life: 0
Parlor: 4
Misc: 1

This was collected from Gamespot's own PS3 game list. As you can see, the largest group is Sports, followed by Action, Action Adventure and Racing. These are only the games that are out. If you don't believe me, look for yourself.
http://www.gamespot.com/games.html?platform=1028&category=&type=games&mode=all&sort=views&sortdir=asc

All the above are serious reasons that PS3 will fail
Not anymore.

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Ownage approved.
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#49 TREAL_Since
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Sales aren't poor at all for the PS3. They are actually very good. It's the new technology that has been taking developers longer to create great experiences.

In SW the PS3 is last place because of no GS AAA exclusive.

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#50 Taalon
Member since 2006 • 3424 Posts
Still ignoring my post I see saolin323, not suprising.