Is PS3 starting to elimate the "360 version is superior" logic?

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#1 black_awpN1
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I mean, aside from a madden here or a FEARthere. PS3 is really starting to make the whole 360 version of the game is better argument Obsolete. R6 vegas on th ePS3 was jsut as good as the 360 version., GRAW 2 is just as good on the PS3 (according to Gamespy) and heck, Oblivion was better on the PS3 than on the 360. So is SONY making some steps to improving the problems?

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#2 wok7
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#3 Blitz_Nemesis
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Graphically GRAW2 looked better on ps3 and dont forget DiRT looked just as good as 360 version.
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#4 black_awpN1
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Graphically GRAW2 looked better on ps3 and dont forget DiRT looked just as good as 360 version.Blitz_Nemesis

Ah yes of course, how could I forget those. I think Lemmings are just getting pissed becasue PS3 versions of a game are looking just as good (if not better) than the 360 version. THe only prob. is when the games are released back to back, the 360 version looks better because devs used the 360 as lead SKU. But give them some time after the 360 version is released, and it ends up looking better.

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#5 wok7
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But give them some time after the 360 version is released, and it ends up looking better.

Unless the PS3 versions start releasing the same time as the 360's, it'll never have the superior version. It's the same situation with the PC versions. Inferior to the console versions untill the hermits get new texture patches, quite the lol, really.

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#6 VoodooHak
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For the money they're asking for, for the extra year of hardward development, for the expectation of more powerful hardware, for the delays in games.... I would expect much more than "looks just as good". I expect the games to look much better.
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#7 brainiac24
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I mean, aside from a madden here or a FEARthere. PS3 is really starting to make the whole 360 version of the game is better argument Obsolete. R6 vegas on th ePS3 was jsut as good as the 360 version., GRAW 2 is just as good on the PS3 (according to Gamespy) and heck, Oblivion was better on the PS3 than on the 360. So is SONY making some steps to improving the problems?

black_awpN1

You fail to realize that the multiplats you just listed came out MONTHS after the 360 version, so of course the devs are going to make the game better. They take the criticisms from the 360 versions and correct them in the PS3 versions...

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#8 black_awpN1
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For the money they're asking for, for the extra year of hardward development, for the expectation of more powerful hardware, for the delays in games.... I would expect much more than "looks just as good". I expect the games to look much better.VoodooHak

Agreed. But hey, what can you do. :(

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#9 VoodooHak
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[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]
For the money they're asking for, for the extra year of hardward development, for the expectation of more powerful hardware, for the delays in games.... I would expect much more than "looks just as good". I expect the games to look much better.black_awpN1

Agreed. But hey, what can you do. :(

Right... and turning the logic around a bit: the 360 version looks just as good as the PS3 version, but in some cases looks better and you can be playing it sooner, and for less.

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#10 Pimpshigity21
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I mean, aside from a madden here or a FEARthere.

black_awpN1

Oh, ist that all it is? A Madden here and a FEAR there? LOL. I love a Cow trying to downplay his/her console's shortcomings. There is nothing quite as comical.

Ahh, I remember the days when Cows believed the Sony lies that the PS3 was so potent that it could open a wormhole to another galaxy. A machine that powerful should not have a Madden here or a Fear there.

If anything, the 360 is eliminating the "PS3 is superior" BS that Sony spoon-fed to all the PS2 fanboys.

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#11 Sora311
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The games are coming out later bc Sony didn't release dev kits early enough, and they were started after the 360 versions. My two cents is that Sony has proven more about the future while 360 is focused on tihs winter. After this winter Im a little curious what games they will have to offer bc the ps3 has a few great titles lined up.
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#12 WilliamRLBaker
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I mean, aside from a madden here or a FEARthere. PS3 is really starting to make the whole 360 version of the game is better argument Obsolete. R6 vegas on th ePS3 was jsut as good as the 360 version., GRAW 2 is just as good on the PS3 (according to Gamespy) and heck, Oblivion was better on the PS3 than on the 360. So is SONY making some steps to improving the problems?

black_awpN1

heres the thing, ALL the games that are just as good or a lil better then the 360 vesions have had 6m-1 year of extra dev time.

when the game is released kith and kin with the 360 version then the 360 version is ALL ways better.

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#13 black_awpN1
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[QUOTE="black_awpN1"]

I mean, aside from a madden here or a FEARthere.

Pimpshigity21

Oh, ist that all it is? A Madden here and a FEAR there? LOL. I love a Cow trying to downplay his/her console's shortcomings. There is nothing quite as comical.

Ahh, I remember the days when Cows believed the Sony lies that the PS3 was so potent that it could open a wormhole to another galaxy. A machine that powerful should not have a Madden here or a Fear there.

If anything, the 360 is eliminating the "PS3 is superior" BS that Sony spoon-fed to all the PS2 fanboys.

How can I be a cow if I own both a 360 and a PS3 and like them both equaley. I lovea Lemming whotrys to downplay another syestem just because he cant compensate for the smallness of his Wiimote. Very Comical.

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#14 jason1690
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I am a Lemming, but a gamer first. In all honesty,it is becoming more evident that Sony overpromised and undelivered with the PS3.
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#15 black_awpN1
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I am a Lemming, but a gamer first. In all honesty,it is becoming more evident that Sony overpromised and undelivered with the PS3.jason1690

Very True. THey are however doing their best to pick up the peices and move on with the syestem.

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#16 Serraph105
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ya know whether or not the 360 fanboys realize it they too are living proof that the gameplay over graphics aregument is true because they stick with the games they enjoy instead of games like lair and heavenly sword graphics dont mean as much to them either so really who cares which system has the most power would you rather play games like gears or halo than lair?
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all those games older than madden.
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#18 horrowhip
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But give them some time after the 360 version is released, and it ends up looking better.

Unless the PS3 versions start releasing the same time as the 360's, it'll never have the superior version. It's the same situation with the PC versions. Inferior to the console versions untill the hermits get new texture patches, quite the lol, really.

wok7

you refering to Ubicrap, because if not than PC versions are always better graphically... Bioshock, Oblivion, Lost Planet, and many many others attest to this.... Ubicrap appears to finally care about the PC however with Far Cry 2 so maybe they can redeem themselves....

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How can I be a cow if I own both a 360 and a PS3 and like them both equaley. I lovea Lemming whotrys to downplay another syestem just because he cant compensate for the smallness of his Wiimote. Very Comical.

black_awpN1

Really? You love the both the same.

Me thinks you are a Cow hiding behind your 360 (if you actually have one).

But hey, I love the fact that you like them both equaley.

Silly Cows.

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#20 hobbit93
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but wasnt the PS3 suppose to be the most advance and the 360 in the spot of the PS3 currently??? - E3 05 :|
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#21 1337cole1337
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I mean, aside from a madden here or a FEARthere. PS3 is really starting to make the whole 360 version of the game is better argument Obsolete. R6 vegas on th ePS3 was jsut as good as the 360 version., GRAW 2 is just as good on the PS3 (according to Gamespy) and heck, Oblivion was better on the PS3 than on the 360. So is SONY making some steps to improving the problems?

black_awpN1



also according to gamespy r6 vegas was horrible on the ps3 (3 and a half i think)
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#22 Verge_6
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The problem is, every single one of the games you listed as an example came out MONTHS after their 360 counterparts were released. Of course they'll look as good, if not better,when they have a significantly larger chunk of dev-time than the 360 versions. And to those saying the devs got their PS3 dev-kits later...I do beleive I read somewhere that they got them BEFORE the 360 dev-kits. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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No. :| Check the scores.
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I mean, aside from a madden here or a FEARthere. PS3 is really starting to make the whole 360 version of the game is better argument Obsolete. R6 vegas on th ePS3 was jsut as good as the 360 version., GRAW 2 is just as good on the PS3 (according to Gamespy) and heck, Oblivion was better on the PS3 than on the 360. So is SONY making some steps to improving the problems?

black_awpN1

To be honest RS. Vegas actually looked better ont he 360 but G.R.A.W and Dirt actually look better on the PS3.

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#25 kage_53
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The ports are starting to look better or are just as good as the 360 version in most cases. But in simutanious releases the 360 version has been better in many cases.
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#26 omarguy01
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na i think its devs (not sony) taking longer to refine their games when porting to ps3. at least that was the case with oblivion and fight night.
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#27 Polaris_choice
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The problem is, every single one of the games you listed as an example came out MONTHS after their 360 counterparts were released. Of course they'll look as good, if not better,when they have a significantly larger chunk of dev-time than the 360 versions. And to those saying the devs got their PS3 dev-kits later...I do beleive I read somewhere that they got them BEFORE the 360 dev-kits. Correct me if I'm wrong.Verge_6

You asked me to correct you if you were wrong so I am. The PS3 dev kits were not even released yet when the 360 was already a finished product on store shelves.

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#28 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="Verge_6"]The problem is, every single one of the games you listed as an example came out MONTHS after their 360 counterparts were released. Of course they'll look as good, if not better,when they have a significantly larger chunk of dev-time than the 360 versions. And to those saying the devs got their PS3 dev-kits later...I do beleive I read somewhere that they got them BEFORE the 360 dev-kits. Correct me if I'm wrong.Polaris_choice

You asked me to correct you if you were wrong so I am. The PS3 dev kits were not even released yet when the 360 was already a finished product on store shelves.

Perhaps it was similar hardware to what the PS3 would have then. Something to that degree.

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#29 vanheusen
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the darkness looked better on the ps3 then the 360. i think that the ps3 is actually showing that it can hav better looking multiplats then the 360
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#30 DarkBlueSleeper
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The problem is, every single one of the games you listed as an example came out MONTHS after their 360 counterparts were released. Of course they'll look as good, if not better,when they have a significantly larger chunk of dev-time than the 360 versions. And to those saying the devs got their PS3 dev-kits later...I do beleive I read somewhere that they got them BEFORE the 360 dev-kits. Correct me if I'm wrong.Verge_6

you're wrong.devs got the XNA devkits in 2004 and the ps3 devkits were given sometime in early 2006

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#31 filterpunk
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If anything, the 360 is eliminating the "PS3 is superior" BS that Sony spoon-fed to all the PS2 fanboys.Pimpshigity21

Speak for yourself. My 360 is beginning to make me think that Microsoft designed it to drive my business elsewhere. As it is, I'm probably going to sell off some of my audio equipment to buy a PS3, with the sole reason I haven't sold the 360 being that it was a gift from my girlfriend.

At least as far as my experience goes, I wouldn't say that the 360 is eliminating much of anything except itself from my living room.

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#32 Seckzy_Gamer
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Ps3 games get lots of extra dev time
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#33 venom1032
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I gotta admit, giving the title of this thread, all posts are quite civilized...lol
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[QUOTE="Pimpshigity21"]If anything, the 360 is eliminating the "PS3 is superior" BS that Sony spoon-fed to all the PS2 fanboys.filterpunk

Speak for yourself. My 360 is beginning to make me think that Microsoft designed it to drive my business elsewhere. As it is, I'm probably going to sell off some of my audio equipment to buy a PS3, with the sole reason I haven't sold the 360 being that it was a gift from my girlfriend.

At least as far as my experience goes, I wouldn't say that the 360 is eliminating much of anything except itself from my living room.

Please go and buy Bioshock right now :/, at least to tide you over until Halo 3 or Mass Effect!
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#35 MerxThis
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Damn, you are dense.

If you release ANYTHING months later, with all the extra dev time, of course its going to look better. Mark Rein said after Gears was released that after it shipped they found a way to make the engine perform even better and they could have done even more with the game.

Since you obviously dont mind having games delayed, hows about 360 owners get GTA4 now, if it was indeed the PS3 that caused it to be delayed like is HEAVILY rumoured. Then you get a slightly better looking, slightly tweaked version in 2008?

Yea, thought not.

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#36 JonnyBooya
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36 games..... 33 better on 360

nope

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well games like UT3, Haze, and Burnout Paradise are eliminating that logic..not only do they release far earlier(UT3, Haze) but they also perform better WITH extra content =] ..TC, these are the games you shouldve listes..not games that come out months later on teh ps3..its not all that hard to make a game look better if its released later
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#38 bluebrad1974
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For what the ps3 costs and what it was hyped, there shouldn't be such a thing as a inferior or "just as good" title.
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#39 Driftwood111
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For the money they're asking for, for the extra year of hardward development, for the expectation of more powerful hardware, for the delays in games.... I would expect much more than "looks just as good". I expect the games to look much better.VoodooHak

Agreed

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#40 Divine_Menace
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well games like UT3, Haze, and Burnout Paradise are eliminating that logic..not only do they release far earlier(UT3, Haze) but they also perform better WITH extra content =] ..TC, these are the games you shouldve listes..not games that come out months later on teh ps3..its not all that hard to make a game look better if its released laterFurbyballistik
Well the cool thing about ports for the 360 there ported fast. Is it me or do ps3 games take twice as long to port?
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#41 Kevondadon
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Graphically GRAW2 looked better on ps3 and dont forget DiRT looked just as good as 360 version.Blitz_Nemesis

That is why it is not eliminated. No matter what game came out first between the PS2 and the Xbox. Sony was always the one drawing comparisons. Now the tables have turned. Now its "looks just as good as the Xbox 360 version". What happen to all of those cells? Why is it not blowing it out of the watersince the PS3 is so much stronger? Because Sony is now in a corner. They are going to try to win you over with Killzone(7 rating) and MGS4.( which is the first good game for the PS3 to come out)It feels good watching Sony struggle. And Ea too(except for skate. But Tony Hawk is not a 2k game).

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There was never any "logic" to that crap anyways. Oblivion alone ended that argument. It was just a matter of time before all developers caught up to making games on PS3 architechture and they were at least equal.
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#43 filterpunk
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Please go and buy Bioshock right now :/, at least to tide you over until Halo 3 or Mass Effect! mastarifla

My point wasn't that there are no games - there are plenty of 360 games I'm interested in. It's that the console itself is so rife with problems, I can barely play the games I do have because of hardware problems.

Even beyond that, I'd still prefer to own both a 360 and PS3, simply because they both have games I'm interested in playing. I've always been a multiplatform gamer, the only difference this time around is that one of them has turned out to be the most unreliable piece of electronics I've ever owned.

BioShock and Mass Effect have been on my list for awhile, but contrary to popular belief, not everyone who owns a 360 wants to play Halo.

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well games like UT3, Haze, and Burnout Paradise are eliminating that logic..not only do they release far earlier(UT3, Haze) but they also perform better WITH extra content =] ..TC, these are the games you shouldve listes..not games that come out months later on teh ps3..its not all that hard to make a game look better if its released laterFurbyballistik

Um have you seen or heard anything about UT3 for 360. They are working on UT3 for PS3 and PC right now that is their focus. Trust me they will put as much focus on the 360 when its time for that. This is Epic we are talking about. They have made some BEAUTIFUL games for Microsoft, Unreal Championship 2 and Gears of War, so they will get it done. As for Haze i care not about shooter #12313132 unless it gets a 9.5 review.

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#45 Videodogg
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I have both systems. i tend to buy the games that look and play better...and thats most always xbox360.
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#46 H3OXTC
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You know whats wrong with your argument those games came out later. RV6, GRAW2, and Oblivion came out months after the 360 version so obviously they have more time to polish it and make it better.
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#48 legendbyname
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you all have to be kidding me right? so lets get this straight...

first off serach around gamespot. they is a technical comparison of the ps3 and the xbox 360 in there before the ps3 was actually released, and it should shut you all up. Yes, the PS3 is technically more powerful in almost every way.

now. lets think logic.

 remember its business first, games later ...

 we've all heard how its pretty much impossible to make the same exact game for the 360 then port it over and vice versa. You think these publishers would want to make a version of the game graphically superior to the other? wouldnt that destroy the whole idea of making multi-plat games? those extra months were used to transfer the game to run on a completely different system, not only that but if you knew anything it takes at least a month after it is 100% complete just to market it and press the discs and ship then for a street date. 

remember, no one care if you think your version is better, cause it is in no way superior 

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#49 snorlaxmaster
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Some PS3 games like GRAW2 and DiRT do look better then the 360 versions, the only problem is that us PS3 users only get to play them 3-4 months after 360 players have beaten/traded them....:|
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#50 Pimpshigity21
Member since 2005 • 1896 Posts

[QUOTE="Pimpshigity21"]If anything, the 360 is eliminating the "PS3 is superior" BS that Sony spoon-fed to all the PS2 fanboys.filterpunk

Speak for yourself. My 360 is beginning to make me think that Microsoft designed it to drive my business elsewhere. As it is, I'm probably going to sell off some of my audio equipment to buy a PS3, with the sole reason I haven't sold the 360 being that it was a gift from my girlfriend.

At least as far as my experience goes, I wouldn't say that the 360 is eliminating much of anything except itself from my living room.

Good luck with the PS3. I hope your stomach is strong enough to suffer through the depression and anguish that afflicts all Cows when a new game is released and the reviews start pouring in.

You will soon come to know the time you owned a 360 as "The Glory Days".