Is Ryse:Son of Rome really a flop?

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Poll Is Ryse:Son of Rome really a flop? (95 votes)

Ryse Rules 36%
Floppus Maximus 64%

As you may or may not know, recently one of the Xbox games with gold was Ryse: Son of Rome. Let me first off say I am not a big fan of hack slash or beat em up games but I found the combat in Ryse to be absolutely enthralling. There was just so many different ways you can execute your enemies and you unlock even more ways as you go, adding to the limb-chopping, shield-bashing action. The story focuses on Marius and his quest to save Rome. He is fueled with both pride... and vengeance to kill those who wronged him. It is like a Max Payne set in Roman times. The story was great and I found the battles, special effects and music made it that much more epic.

What do you think?

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#1 mjorh
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It was boring for me, too many QTEs

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#2  Edited By deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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Persona 4 has such an influence on me that I even read Ryse as Ree-seh (and the spelling is different so I have no excuse here).

As for the topic on hand- everything I have seen of it makes it seem like a decent, 6/10 kind of game. Nothing I would spend good money on, and nothing that will end up on any list, but not a crime against gaming or anything. Without having played it however, I am afraid i couldn't say more.

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#3 aigis
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Is there any doubt?

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#4 lundy86_4
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It's a decent mess-around, but the QTE's got old fast, and it was a pretty linear game from what I remember. If they could take the formula without those QTE's, with some larger scale battles, that shit would be dope.

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#5  Edited By Sam3231
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@aigis said:

Is there any doubt?

I swear I thought I played the wrong game, which led me to query System Wars of course!

I found it to be rather good. Not really as "repetitive" as many reviews said it was.

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#6  Edited By hrt_rulz01
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It's an enjoyable, solid experience... I don't think it's a "flop".

And I think it has potential to be a decent series if it gets some love & attention.

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#7 Pedro
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It was OK. Nothing more and nothing less. Thus making it a flop in the SW.

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#8 deactivated-5e0e425ee91d8
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Based on the metacritic sitting at a middling 60, a general consensus from the user reviews and the CEO of crytek publicly stating that they were not satisfied with the sales of the game, I'd say that by any objective measure, it is a flop.

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@hrt_rulz01 said:

It's an enjoyable, solid experience... I don't think it's a "flop".

And I think it has potential to be a decent series if it gets some love & attention.

Yes I wouldn't mind a sequel after playing the first.

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#10  Edited By QuadKnight
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It was an epic flop that pretty much sums up the Xbone lineup this gen.

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#11  Edited By hrt_rulz01
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@quadknight said:

It was an epic flop that pretty much sums up the Xbone lineup this gen.

Kinda like The Order... lmao. Now that was a flop.

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@quadknight said:

It was an epic flop that pretty much sums up the Xbone lineup this gen.

A game you never played, so how would you know that's true? Ryse is a good game i would rate it 78/100

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@quadknight said:

It was an epic flop that pretty much sums up the Xbone lineup this gen.

Glad to see you back

Back at ruffling lems' feathers again lol

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#14  Edited By hrt_rulz01
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@mjorh said:
@quadknight said:

It was an epic flop that pretty much sums up the Xbone lineup this gen.

Glad to see you back

Back at ruffling lems' feathers again lol

Yeah... great.

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It sold less than 5club and that studio was shut down think about that for a minute

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@hrt_rulz01 said:
@quadknight said:

It was an epic flop that pretty much sums up the Xbone lineup this gen.

Kinda like The Order... lmao. Now that was a flop.

XBox has had more flops to be fair.

Ryse, Titanfall, Recore, Sunset Overdrive, Quantum Break all had low scores, low sales, or both (I wont count Gears 4 even tho it got a 7, we all know it still sold millions)

Ryse of the Tomb Raider was kind of a flop business deal for Microsoft....

Playstation has had one first party flop with Driveclub and 2 third party flops with The Order: 1886 and No Mans Sky

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#17 Chutebox
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Flop

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#18 loe12k
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http://store.steampowered.com/app/302510/Ryse_Son_of_Rome/

10,000 reviews on Steam, 83 per cent of the reviews are very positive, You know those reviews are real and genuine, pc gamer's for the most part don't care about Xbox or Playstation. With Metacritic fanboys go on there and downvote games and hand out ludicrous scores.

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@hrt_rulz01 said:
@mjorh said:
@quadknight said:

It was an epic flop that pretty much sums up the Xbone lineup this gen.

Glad to see you back

Back at ruffling lems' feathers again lol

Yeah... great.

*Chuckles*

I'd miss you too :P

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@mjorh: Lol.

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Yes I really really enjoyed it, I finished it first on PC then again lately on Xbox One s. I love the setting, the story is brutal, bloody. The graphics are still amazing and there's just something about fighting in Rome with all the architecture and the Colosseum in the background that is very epic. The Colosseum part of the game is very very good, especially after having played through the actual battles that are being re-enacted.

I'd personally give the game a 8/10.

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The combat was repetitive and the novelty of the executions quickly lost their zing; furthermore, the QTEs and general linear hand-holding was not my cup of tea. I couldn't bring myself to finish the game.

@darkspineslayer said:

Based on the metacritic sitting at a middling 60, a general consensus from the user reviews and the CEO of crytek publicly stating that they were not satisfied with the sales of the game, I'd say that by any objective measure, it is a flop.

You mention critic reviews and a consensus from users but then use the term "objective"? Tisk, tisk.

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#23 mjorh
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@hrt_rulz01 said:

@mjorh: Lol.

You don't believe me? :(

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@Stevo_the_gamer: I mean, do you have any other metric to work from? There are examples of the critics being at a disconnect from the fans, but this wasn't one.

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@darkspineslayer said:

@Stevo_the_gamer: I mean, do you have any other metric to work from? There are examples of the critics being at a disconnect from the fans, but this wasn't one.

It's all highly relative/subjective.

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#26  Edited By R4gn4r0k
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@loe12k: lol steam reviews... Most steam reviews are made on first impressions with less than​ two hours of gametime... Steam reviews lol

Anyway I genuinly loved the game, not to say it doesn't have flaws. But I think a sequel could fix those flaws.

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Lemmings have such low standards.

On any console this game would have been long forgotten.

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Didn't that game practically kill Crytek?

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I actually enjoyed it.

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@R4gn4r0k said:

@loe12k: lol steam reviews... Most steam reviews are made on first impressions with less than two hours of gametime... Steam reviews lol

Anyway I genuinly loved the game, not to say it doesn't have flaws. But I think a sequel could fix those flaws.

Why? I mean what was the main appeal of the game that hooked you throughout?

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It's a solid game I thought it was fun playing it on PC that had an enjoyable story, I always been a fan of Roman Empire history junkie guy, I would give it a 7/10. The combat did get repetitive but that's only because there is only one weapon to use and the visuals were great at it's time but it has aged badly to this day.

@LegatoSkyheart said:

Didn't that game practically kill Crytek?

No, Crytek killed Crytek when they started porting there games to consoles and Crytek Tanked before Ryse gave it the final blow. MS offer to buy the rights for Ryse but didn't want there money for some reasons. Nobody in there right mind ask them to go business with consoles in the first place.

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It's a beat-em up without any depth. It looks pretty, I'll give it that, and the mash flow itself is satisfying. But there isn't much to the gameplay, even Batman and God of War 2 have more going for them, and they are on the low end of beat-em ups I'll play.

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#33 lrdfancypants
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@undefined:

I liked Ryse & The Order.

Of course I'm sure this will turn into which was more a flop from both sides even though both games were linear with QTE's.

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@lundy86_4 said:

It's a decent mess-around, but the QTE's got old fast, and it was a pretty linear game from what I remember. If they could take the formula without those QTE's, with some larger scale battles, that shit would be dope.

@hrt_rulz01 said:

It's an enjoyable, solid experience... I don't think it's a "flop".

And I think it has potential to be a decent series if it gets some love & attention.

@Pedro said:

It was OK. Nothing more and nothing less. Thus making it a flop in the SW.

Pretty much this. Wasn't a horrible game by any means. Just really meh. The utter lack of depth in its mechanics killed it. It had some potential I think.

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@Stevo_the_gamer said:
@darkspineslayer said:

@Stevo_the_gamer: I mean, do you have any other metric to work from? There are examples of the critics being at a disconnect from the fans, but this wasn't one.

It's all highly relative/subjective.

Thanks Websters. I've got another one for you, please define "pedantic".

To return to my question, do you have another metric or not?

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#36  Edited By uninspiredcup  Online
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Didn't bother with it, Crysis 2 pretty much spelt out what Crytek had become.

I suppose the ironic thing is after all those years of unjustly having Crysis dismissed as mere tech demo, they eventually because what there detractors described.

You'd hope they'd have a Rocky 3 moment, but nay. Wasn't to be.

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I was late to the party with this game. I picked it up for cheap sometime last year. Actually had a pretty enjoyable time with it as well. I wouldn't call it a flop myself.

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#38  Edited By lamprey263
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I really enjoyed it, but yes, commercially it is a flop. Game didn't get its fare shake, likely due to the gaming political climate. Shame, because Crytek's main problems in recent years have been because of that, gaming politics. They were already in bad position from making the MC Master Race snowflakes go on full meltdown after Crysis 2 got the console treatment, still a damn good game, but wasn't pushing PC gaming to extremes where you'd need a PC with several years of high end settings future proofed into the hardware to run it. In Ryse's case, it was on the Xbox One when people were still upset about the reveal and direction the console was heading. No, didn't get its fair shake, neither did Dead Rising 3 for that matter. I'd of really loved to have seen a sequel, but Crytek wouldn't come to agreement with MS. MS was willing to fund the sequel if Crytek relinquished rights, Crytek chose to hold onto the IP because they had accumulated a lot of debt, a lot of closing and firings, a lot of unpaid workers. Word was they were holding onto the IP so they can declare bankruptcy on their financial obligations and sell the IP later to shore up capital once that was behind them. Currently they're reduced to nothing more than CryEngine support for developers using their engine; they're done for the most part. We'll likely never see a sequel or anything else from them, ever.

I really enjoyed the Colosseum mode too, when I was done with everything and grinding out the achievements, it was pretty behind me. Darn good for a launch game, easily better than anything of the PS4 launch exclusives. It took me a while to get to it, I put it off thinking I wouldn't like it given its reputation, but damn, I was surprised how much I enjoyed it when I finally did play it.

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#39  Edited By hrt_rulz01
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@mjorh: Not sure... lol.

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#40  Edited By Zero_epyon
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@jcrame10 said:
@hrt_rulz01 said:
@quadknight said:

It was an epic flop that pretty much sums up the Xbone lineup this gen.

Kinda like The Order... lmao. Now that was a flop.

XBox has had more flops to be fair.

Ryse, Titanfall, Recore, Sunset Overdrive, Quantum Break all had low scores, low sales, or both (I wont count Gears 4 even tho it got a 7, we all know it still sold millions)

Ryse of the Tomb Raider was kind of a flop business deal for Microsoft....

Playstation has had one first party flop with Driveclub and 2 third party flops with The Order: 1886 and No Mans Sky

Plus Dead Rising 3 and Dead Rising 4

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@jcrame10 said:
@hrt_rulz01 said:
@quadknight said:

It was an epic flop that pretty much sums up the Xbone lineup this gen.

Kinda like The Order... lmao. Now that was a flop.

XBox has had more flops to be fair.

Ryse, Titanfall, Recore, Sunset Overdrive, Quantum Break all had low scores, low sales, or both (I wont count Gears 4 even tho it got a 7, we all know it still sold millions)

Ryse of the Tomb Raider was kind of a flop business deal for Microsoft....

Playstation has had one first party flop with Driveclub and 2 third party flops with The Order: 1886 and No Mans Sky

Wtf are you talking about? Sunset Overdrive is currently 81 on Metacritic, Quantum Break is 77, Titanfall 1 is 86... and Gears 4 is 84. All are great games (especially Sunset Overdrive & Gears 4).

Nice try cow.

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It was an ok game, not good but I wouldn't call it a bad either. It was worth the £5 I paid for it.

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Ryse is decent. Campaign was entertaining but i enjoy the co-op arena mode. The different objectives make the arena mode a lot of fun and doing finishing kills never gets old.

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#44  Edited By deactivated-6092a2d005fba
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Well i actually enjoyed it, but then again i played it unlike some of the usual suspects in here.

The SP was on the short side, but the MP is where i spent most of my time.

I love how the cows are using scores as if they matter,

My motto is, play it, rate it, debate it or GTFO.

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#46 tormentos
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@Pedro said:

It was OK. Nothing more and nothing less. Thus making it a flop in the SW.

It was the sounding low score what make it a flop..

But as usual lemmings have 2 standards when it comes to flops,if the game was no man sky yeah that sucks is a flop,regardless of having 71%,if the game is Ryse yeah that is not a flop even that it has 60..lol

@loe12k said:

http://store.steampowered.com/app/302510/Ryse_Son_of_Rome/

10,000 reviews on Steam, 83 per cent of the reviews are very positive, You know those reviews are real and genuine, pc gamer's for the most part don't care about Xbox or Playstation. With Metacritic fanboys go on there and downvote games and hand out ludicrous scores.

Hahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.....

When score don't favor you bring what ever shit you can find to downplay the real scores.

@hrt_rulz01 said:
@quadknight said:

It was an epic flop that pretty much sums up the Xbone lineup this gen.

Kinda like The Order... lmao. Now that was a flop.

Yes it was and you don't see of claiming other wise we know better..hahahahaa

The fact that people here actually defend Ryse is a testament of the double standard and pathetic goal post movement in lemming land.

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#47 tormentos
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@i_p_daily said:

Well i actually enjoyed it, but then again i played it unlike some of the usual suspects in here.

The SP was on the short side, but the MP is where i spent most of my time.

I love how the cows are using scores as if they matter,

My motto is, play it, rate it, debate it or GTFO.

You playing the game in nothing changes the fact that the game SUCKS.

Yeah scores don't matter. hahaahahaa...

The only reason why you can say Forza is better than GT is score..

GT has more cars more tracks more modes,more sales and is more popular than Forza what Forza has its scores going for it because it did some things better than GT and score REFLECT it...

Some people here are a joke specially those who slam scores only to ride them when they feel like it.

The only reason lemmings hate scores this gen is because the xbox one has shitty games and lower scores than the PS.

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@tormentos: Do you think GT sport can outscore Horizon or Forza does it have a chance this time?

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#49  Edited By deactivated-6092a2d005fba
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@tormentos: I live by my motto, and since you don't play games you play scores you can GTFO.