Is Sega pathetic now?

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#1 Tony-Baxter
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Milking Dreamcast games while everyone else is living in the now.
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#2 LegatoSkyheart
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I don't know. I mean aren't they making Sonic Colours?

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#3 Bigboi500
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Actually they're still pumping out good games like Valkyria Chronicles, Yakuza 3, and Sakura Wars.

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#4 Tony-Baxter
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Actually they're still pumping out good games like Valkyria Chronicles, Yakuza 3, and Sakura Wars.

Bigboi500
Yakuza is a shenmue wannabe.
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#5 Chemical_Viking
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They've been a shadow of their former glory for years. They're not pathetic per se, but they are something of a joke. Publishing games like Alpha Protocol and The Conduit and releasing rehash after rehash of poor 3D sonic games.

They should release a new proper shining force. Not an action rpg, a strategy one like they were in the beginning.

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#6 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

Actually they're still pumping out good games like Valkyria Chronicles, Yakuza 3, and Sakura Wars.

Tony-Baxter

Yakuza is a shenmue wannabe.

That's true, but it's still good.

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#9 PAL360
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Only if Sonic4 flops. It does look pretty good at this point

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#10 boredy-Mcbored
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The sonic team is the really the only thing pathetic about Sega about now.

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#11 RyuRanVII
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And what about the epic Total War series?

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#12 InfinityMugen
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Sega has brought out good games this gen. BTW how did I get moderated for telling the truth?

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#13 Sword-Demon
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as a dev, yes

as a publisher, certainly not

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#14 tarzanell
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Crush, Valkyria Chronicles, Monkey Ball, and the Sonic DS games are solid. But otherwise, their development has been kinda weak for the last 10 years.
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#15 dercoo
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It is just there mainstream games that fail.

Their lesser hits like Valkyria Chronicles and Yakuza are still very good.

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#16 Anjunaddict
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How dare you call the company behind Shenmue pathetic.
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#17 Valiant_Rebel
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Sega has been awesome this gen with Valkyria Chronicles and Total War, and that's just to name a few. Releasing Dreamcast games on XBL and PSN does not make them pathetic. If that was the case, then Nintendo should be utterly pathetic for their Virtual Console.

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I just... REALLY want a new Chromehounds-type game.

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#19 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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As developers? Yeah... But they've made a great job as publishers, publishing Yakuza 3, VC and Platinum's games (MadWolrd, Bayonetta, Vanquish).
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#20 DJ_Lae
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Sega has been wallowing in their mediocrity for YEARS now. Now they've sort of realized everything they've churned out in the past few years has been **bleep** (with the exception of Valkyria Chronicles) and that people maybe sort of kind of liked their Dreamcast lineup. Little effort, decent profits. Although I doubt they'll sell extremely well - most Dreamcast games have aged poorly.
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#21 Phoenix534
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As long as there is a Valkyria Chronicles game being made, then I have respect for Sega.

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#22 Tony-Baxter
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="Tony-Baxter"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

Actually they're still pumping out good games like Valkyria Chronicles, Yakuza 3, and Sakura Wars.

Yakuza is a shenmue wannabe.

That's true, but it's still good.

Funny how sega set the bar high w/Shenmue and now they themselves fell short of it!
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#23 SakusEnvoy
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Sega has always milked people for the nostalgia they have of old games. I mean, their first batch of Sega Ages re-releases started on the Sega Saturn. My only concern is they will re-release Sonic a hundred times, while never thinking to port rare/highly sought-after games like Panzer Dragoon Saga.

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#24 Oonga
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Nope, its just another RAREware situation where theyre just not as good as they were before (although theyve fallen harder than rare).

I think theyre having their best year this gen (Yakuza 3, Alpha Protocol, Valkyrica Chronicles 2, Resonance of Fate, Bayonetta, Sonic Colours)

And ive just finished Valkyria Chronicles, instant classic. Its up there with the very best of SEGA and its developed in house.

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#25 Tony-Baxter
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Sega has always milked people for the nostalgia they have of old games. I mean, their first batch of Sega Ages re-releases started on the Sega Saturn. My only concern is they will re-release Sonic a hundred times, while never thinking to port rare/highly sought-after games like Panzer Dragoon Saga.

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Actually it started on the Genesis."6-Packs"
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#26 dachase
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Im still waiting for HD versions of Daytona USA 1 & 2 and Scud Race with online play. Sega seem to be scared of the money those games could make them.

They're in a similar situation to RARE at the moment where they have some classic franchises that seem to have been forgotten by them. Wheres my Panzer Dragoon, Crazy Taxi, Jet Set Radio and Shenmue games SEGA, what happened man, you used to be cool :D

Have no problem with the dreamcast ports on PS3 and 360 but will they sell well enough? most of the hardcore dreamcast fans still have a dreamcast so i wont be buying any of these.

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#27 CaptainHarley
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it depends. sonic is a garbage franchise and most people associate it with sega, so its easy to fall into that mode of thinking. combine that with hilariously bad releases like the conduit and its easy to see why sega is considered so awful. the people who still defend them for games they released like five to ten years ago are wht really make sega look pathetic, though.

but they released bayonetta and valkyria chronicles, two of the best games this gen. thats got to be worth something.

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#28 Easyle
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Sega is all but a shadow of what the once were. They were beating Nintendo at one point, but they let it all slip away. :(
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#29 sky_rend
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As long as there is a Valkyria Chronicles game being made, then I have respect for Sega.

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I agree. Other than VC, Sega has been a letdown (joke of a Bayonetta port, cut content out of Yakuza 3).
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#30 Kashiwaba
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="Tony-Baxter"] Yakuza is a shenmue wannabe.Tony-Baxter

That's true, but it's still good.

Funny how sega set the bar high w/Shenmue and now they themselves fell short of it!

Nah they learned their lesson they are not stupid anymore they wont give a game that doesn't sell much a high production value like they did with Shenmue they invested $70 mils on it yet few people bought so now they dont want to repeat their mistakes with Yakuza.

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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

Actually they're still pumping out good games like Valkyria Chronicles, Yakuza 3, and Sakura Wars.

Tony-Baxter

Yakuza is a shenmue wannabe.

No it's not. Shenmue 1,2 and the Yakuza titles are completely different games, not evenin the same genre lol. As for the topic they have put some good games that they actually developed and some of the titles they've published lately were pretty good especially Bayonetta.

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#32 Theguy56
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[QUOTE="IronBass"]As developers? Yeah... But they've made a great job as publishers, publishing Yakuza 3, VC and Platinum's games (MadWolrd, Bayonetta, Vanquish).

SEGA developed Yakuza 3 and VC.
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#33 vashkey
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Milking Dreamcast games while everyone else is living in the now.Tony-Baxter
People loved the Dreamcast. Sure, they're milking but people want this milk. SEGA as a whole though, compared to their Genesis days, yeah, they're not doing so hot. But compared to earlier this gen and late last gen they're doing better. Bayonetta was a good game. While Alpha Protocol didn't meet expectations it was a nice effort. I hear Mad World and Yakuza were good. Put simply, at least they're trying and putting stuff out there other than Sonic. Still, they could be doing better.
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#34 locopatho
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They putting some decent stuff out but the glory days are long gone.
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#35 telefanatic
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Sega has been awesome this gen with Valkyria Chronicles and Total War, and that's just to name a few. Releasing Dreamcast games on XBL and PSN does not make them pathetic. If that was the case, then Nintendo should be utterly pathetic for their Virtual Console.

Valiant_Rebel

Sega only publishes Total War games, its developer is Creative Assembly.

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#36 DJ-Lafleur
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Bayonetta and Resonance of Fate would like a word with you.

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#37 GramDubs
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bad management decisions, i honestly think that if they waited a year or 2 to come out with the dreamcast, then they would have put a dvd player in it, as well as double analog sticks, and done very well with the dreamcast, therefore being still alive in this current generation with a dreamcast 2.

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#38 jasonharris48
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bad management decisions, i honestly think that if they waited a year or 2 to come out with the dreamcast, then they would have put a dvd player in it, as well as double analog sticks, and done very well with the dreamcast, therefore being still alive in this current generation with a dreamcast 2.

GramDubs

Waiting two years wasn't going to help them. Sega was in trouble since the 32 bit. (It just got worse and worse after every gen fro them)

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#39 Gxgear
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Valkyria Chronicles.

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#40 Kane04
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Valkyria Chronicles.

Gxgear
that pretty much tell everything to tc, by the way i wouldnt see anything wrong with Shenmue 3, how would that be a bad thing? (according to tc sega only milks DC games = bad)
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#41 Rex_Fenix
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They've been a shadow of their former glory for years. They're not pathetic per se, but they are something of a joke. Publishing games like Alpha Protocol and The Conduit and releasing rehash after rehash of poor 3D sonic games.

They should release a new proper shining force. Not an action rpg, a strategy one like they were in the beginning.

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Agreed. Especially with the opening sentence.