Well its been confirmed that it is more powerful than the PS2, so I was wondering if it was more powerful than a wii.
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The processing power apparently is about as powerful as that of the 360 or PS3, because it is running games twice for the 3D affect. Graphically it looks kind of mixed. Some things look more powerful than the Wii, some looks worse than Gamecube.
The 3ds seems to be about as powerful as a Gamecube, and a Wii is more powerful than a Gamecube. How ever, there a lot of Gamecube games that show otherwise. So it really depends on certain games coming out for the 3ds, the games that pushes the 3DS to limitations should look better than some Wii games, but standard 3DS games should look worse than Wii games.
No it's not.The processing power apparently is about as powerful as that of the 360 or PS3
AmayaPapaya
lawl as powerful as 360/ps3? Where did u get that information from. We dunno about the spec yet, gfx card is ~ps2/gc level.The processing power apparently is about as powerful as that of the 360 or PS3, because it is running games twice for the 3D affect. Graphically it looks kind of mixed. Some things look more powerful than the Wii, some looks worse than Gamecube.
AmayaPapaya
Don't know about the power, but it looks on par with Gamecube (maybe better, and it's not even out yet), in 3D. [QUOTE="AmayaPapaya"]No it's not.The processing power apparently is about as powerful as that of the 360 or PS3
SaltyMeatballs
Thats what I heard. Not what I know. It's possible seeing as it is running the game twice, and the games look really good. I didn't mean as powerful as the 360/PS3, but closer to it than the Wii.
No it's not.[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]Don't know about the power, but it looks on par with Gamecube (maybe better, and it's not even out yet), in 3D. [QUOTE="AmayaPapaya"]
The processing power apparently is about as powerful as that of the 360 or PS3
AmayaPapaya
Thats what I heard. Not what I know. It's possible seeing as it is running the game twice, and the games look really good. I didn't mean as powerful as the 360/PS3, but closer to it than the Wii.
It's running the game twice, yes, but if you add up the resolutions it's 800x240, or 400x480, which is not even SD. Probably not as powerful as the Wii, wouldn't need to be to produce better visuals than it either.No it's not.[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]Don't know about the power, but it looks on par with Gamecube (maybe better, and it's not even out yet), in 3D. [QUOTE="AmayaPapaya"]
The processing power apparently is about as powerful as that of the 360 or PS3
AmayaPapaya
Thats what I heard. Not what I know. It's possible seeing as it is running the game twice, and the games look really good. I didn't mean as powerful as the 360/PS3, but closer to it than the Wii.
no no no nono nooooooo :P its far from 360 or PS3 status. Its not even close. The GPU its using is comparable to that of the xbox 1 and Wii. IGN says that some devs claim it to be stronger than the Wii, and personally i believe that. Remember that the Wii isnt that strong to begin with. Its using a feature set back from 2001.
[QUOTE="AmayaPapaya"][QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"] No it's not.SaltyMeatballs
Thats what I heard. Not what I know. It's possible seeing as it is running the game twice, and the games look really good. I didn't mean as powerful as the 360/PS3, but closer to it than the Wii.
It's running the game twice, yes, but if you add up the resolutions it's 800x240, or 400x480, which is not even SD. Probably not as powerful as the Wii, wouldn't need to be to produce better visuals than it either.Wait I think AmayaPapaya is right, I decided to look further in to the matter and found an article stating that the 3DS is reaching 360/PS3 capabilities.
http://ds.ign.com/articles/109/1098713p1.html
"developers told us prior to the debut of the 3DS that the hardware is well beyond Wii and approaching 360/PS3 capabilities with what the system can do"
If craig harris is to be trusted, than I think the 3DS is more powerful than the wii.
It's running the game twice, yes, but if you add up the resolutions it's 800x240, or 400x480, which is not even SD. Probably not as powerful as the Wii, wouldn't need to be to produce better visuals than it either.[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="AmayaPapaya"]
Thats what I heard. Not what I know. It's possible seeing as it is running the game twice, and the games look really good. I didn't mean as powerful as the 360/PS3, but closer to it than the Wii.
G-dorf11
Wait I think AmayaPapaya is right, I decided to look further in to the matter and found an article stating that the 3DS is reaching 360/PS3 capabilities.
http://ds.ign.com/articles/109/1098713p1.html
"developers told us prior to the debut of the 3DS that the hardware is well beyond Wii and approaching 360/PS3 capabilities with what the system can do"
If craig harris is to be trusted, than I think the 3DS is more powerful than the wii.
I'll believe it when I see. Right now, it looks about Gamecube level. It will only get better too.[QUOTE="AmayaPapaya"][QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"] No it's not.SaltyMeatballs
Thats what I heard. Not what I know. It's possible seeing as it is running the game twice, and the games look really good. I didn't mean as powerful as the 360/PS3, but closer to it than the Wii.
It's running the game twice, yes, but if you add up the resolutions it's 800x240, or 400x480, which is not even SD. Probably not as powerful as the Wii, wouldn't need to be to produce better visuals than it either.Oh OK then. Some people said it was, and because it runs the game twice it sounds convincing :P I wasn't too sure about the idea any way.
It's running the game twice, yes, but if you add up the resolutions it's 800x240, or 400x480, which is not even SD. Probably not as powerful as the Wii, wouldn't need to be to produce better visuals than it either.[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="AmayaPapaya"]
Thats what I heard. Not what I know. It's possible seeing as it is running the game twice, and the games look really good. I didn't mean as powerful as the 360/PS3, but closer to it than the Wii.
G-dorf11
Wait I think AmayaPapaya is right, I decided to look further in to the matter and found an article stating that the 3DS is reaching 360/PS3 capabilities.
http://ds.ign.com/articles/109/1098713p1.html
"developers told us prior to the debut of the 3DS that the hardware is well beyond Wii and approaching 360/PS3 capabilities with what the system can do"
If craig harris is to be trusted, than I think the 3DS is more powerful than the wii.
The only thing that make the 3DS remotly similar to the 360/PS3 is its ability to do shaders, and even those are limited to fixed function (which isnt that much of a bad thing despite it being inferior to programable pipelines)Quite possibly.Well its been confirmed that it is more powerful than the PS2, so I was wondering if it was more powerful than a wii.
G-dorf11
[QUOTE="painguy1"]
The only thing that make the 3DS remotly similar to the 360/PS3 is its ability to do shaders, and even those are limited to fixed function (which isnt that much of a bad thing)
Teufelhuhn
what ever, u of all people know what i mean :P
The IGN article saying it was close to the 360/PS3 in power was a bad joke/poor reporting. The initial reports were that it was, "about as powerful as a GC" which looks to be true.
I know the games are early in development, but Mario Kart 3DS doesn't even look as good as Double Dash yet. I seriously doubt it has the polygon pushing power of a game like Rogue Squadron from GC. Maybe it has better, or more accessible shader capabilities.
We'd be lucky if it has GC-level power and can push visuals like this...
Most likely, especially in terms of shader support. I don't doubt its more powerful than the original Xbox, especially if it were rendering a single image and not two for stereoscopic mode.
Wait a minute.the 3DS is more powerful than the PS2? :? can i have a link or something
JordanizPro
I dont think anybody has actually confirmed that it is, but the graphics sure show it...
PS2 RE4
3DS RE: Revelations
BTW it look like a prerendered cutscene but its not, its realtime.
[QUOTE="JordanizPro"]
Wait a minute.the 3DS is more powerful than the PS2? :? can i have a link or something
bowser3
I dont think anybody has actually confirmed that it is, but the graphics sure show it...
PS2 RE4
3DS RE: Revelations
BTW it look like a prerendered cutscene but its not, its realtime.
Yea i just got done looking at these pics.The 3DS takes a huge s*** on the PS2 in terms of graphics,thats for surelol no. Thats like saying ps3 is twice as powerfull as 360 because ps3 runs kz3 3D.The processing power apparently is about as powerful as that of the 360 or PS3, because it is running games twice for the 3D affect. Graphically it looks kind of mixed. Some things look more powerful than the Wii, some looks worse than Gamecube.
AmayaPapaya
[QUOTE="AmayaPapaya"]lol no. Thats like saying ps3 is twice as powerfull as 360 because ps3 runs kz3 3D.The processing power apparently is about as powerful as that of the 360 or PS3, because it is running games twice for the 3D affect. Graphically it looks kind of mixed. Some things look more powerful than the Wii, some looks worse than Gamecube.
Foliage-King
Yeah, but its only the 3d capable tv and the glasses that make killzone 3 in 3d. The 3ds actually has to process everything by itself.
[QUOTE="AmayaPapaya"]lol no. Thats like saying ps3 is twice as powerfull as 360 because ps3 runs kz3 3D. wow you dont know anything about the 3ds do you?The processing power apparently is about as powerful as that of the 360 or PS3, because it is running games twice for the 3D affect. Graphically it looks kind of mixed. Some things look more powerful than the Wii, some looks worse than Gamecube.
Foliage-King
Well its been confirmed that it is more powerful than the PS2, so I was wondering if it was more powerful than a wii.
G-dorf11
I think it is far more powerfull actually, has a very strong GPU too
It would be a bold claim for 3DS to beat the old ATI Radeon 9700.Wait I think AmayaPapaya is right, I decided to look further in to the matter and found an article stating that the 3DS is reaching 360/PS3 capabilities.
http://ds.ign.com/articles/109/1098713p1.html
"developers told us prior to the debut of the 3DS that the hardware is well beyond Wii and approaching 360/PS3 capabilities with what the system can do"
If craig harris is to be trusted, than I think the 3DS is more powerful than the wii.
AmayaPapaya
The 3DS is getting a 360 game ported over (Saint's Row) with NO modifications. Guess how powerful that makes it.charizard1605Geforce 6100 can run UT3 PC without modifications.
Well, ATI Mobility Radeon 9600 > PS2.Wait a minute.the 3DS is more powerful than the PS2? :? can i have a link or something
JordanizPro
[QUOTE="G-dorf11"][QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"] It's running the game twice, yes, but if you add up the resolutions it's 800x240, or 400x480, which is not even SD. Probably not as powerful as the Wii, wouldn't need to be to produce better visuals than it either.SaltyMeatballs
Wait I think AmayaPapaya is right, I decided to look further in to the matter and found an article stating that the 3DS is reaching 360/PS3 capabilities.
http://ds.ign.com/articles/109/1098713p1.html
"developers told us prior to the debut of the 3DS that the hardware is well beyond Wii and approaching 360/PS3 capabilities with what the system can do"
If craig harris is to be trusted, than I think the 3DS is more powerful than the wii.
I'll believe it when I see. Right now, it looks about Gamecube level. It will only get better too.And how does that NOT impress you considering it's displaying the same thing twice? To look that good already means that Craig Harris's comment is far more valid of a source then your opinion when you haven't even worked with the hardware. :|[QUOTE="G-dorf11"]
It's running the game twice, yes, but if you add up the resolutions it's 800x240, or 400x480, which is not even SD. Probably not as powerful as the Wii, wouldn't need to be to produce better visuals than it either.SaltyMeatballs
Wait I think AmayaPapaya is right, I decided to look further in to the matter and found an article stating that the 3DS is reaching 360/PS3 capabilities.
http://ds.ign.com/articles/109/1098713p1.html
"developers told us prior to the debut of the 3DS that the hardware is well beyond Wii and approaching 360/PS3 capabilities with what the system can do"
If craig harris is to be trusted, than I think the 3DS is more powerful than the wii.
The only thing that make the 3DS remotly similar to the 360/PS3 is its ability to do shaders, and even those are limited to fixed function (which isnt that much of a bad thing despite it being inferior to programable pipelines) 3DS has programmable vertex shaders and rest are fix function.[QUOTE="Thunderdrone"]Oh boy, if you gus think 3DS games will look like that RE5 tech demo.... :/NedemisAnd just why don't you think it'll be close seeing how that was running in real time? :|
Because its a tech demo. A cutscene of two characters in 1 small room will hardly be any indication of what a full-fledged title running in real time on the 3DS will be like.
Remember the GameCube tech demo Rebirth?
Yeah, thats real time too.
The IGN article saying it was close to the 360/PS3 in power was a bad joke/poor reporting. The initial reports were that it was, "about as powerful as a GC" which looks to be true.
I know the games are early in development, but Mario Kart 3DS doesn't even look as good as Double Dash yet. I seriously doubt it has the polygon pushing power of a game like Rogue Squadron from GC. Maybe it has better, or more accessible shader capabilities.
We'd be lucky if it has GC-level power and can push visuals like this...
gamecubepad
I thought Mario Kart looked about on par, the colours really popped and looked very quite detailed.
(Hard to find crisp screenshots of older games)
I would lean towards no... but I think it does some graphical elements better than the Wii... such as normal mapping, or whatever the term is nowadays. People who think the 3DS is more powerful than the Wii, keep in mind that the 3DS only has to display its games on a 3.75 inch screen, so it can make things look much better for that reason alone.... if the 3DS had a video out on it, and you plugged it into your tv, I think you'd see a clear difference, that the Wii is in fact more powerful.
Still the 3DS looks powerful enough to satisfy my inner graphic w***e... and the fact that its being displayed in 3D is just icing on the cake.
And just why don't you think it'll be close seeing how that was running in real time? :|[QUOTE="Nedemis"][QUOTE="Thunderdrone"]Oh boy, if you gus think 3DS games will look like that RE5 tech demo.... :/Thunderdrone
Because its a tech demo. A cutscene of two characters in 1 small room will hardly be any indication of what a full-fledged title running in real time on the 3DS will be like.
And in that "tech demo" one could actually control the camera in real time. That's quite a bit different compared to a video simply running on the screen. Honestly people, if their already able to create demos on this system that look this incredible (for a handheld mind you) then what makes you think that the final results of an actual game look any less impressive? The Resident Evil demo was running with full polygon characters, real time lighting and yet you still choose to believe that it's nothing more then smoke and mirrors?[QUOTE="Thunderdrone"]
[QUOTE="Nedemis"] And just why don't you think it'll be close seeing how that was running in real time? :|Nedemis
Because its a tech demo. A cutscene of two characters in 1 small room will hardly be any indication of what a full-fledged title running in real time on the 3DS will be like.
And in that "tech demo" one could actually control the camera in real time. That's quite a bit different compared to a video simply running on the screen. Honestly people, if their already able to create demos on this system that look this incredible (for a handheld mind you) then what makes you think that the final results of an actual game look any less impressive? The Resident Evil demo was running with full polygon characters, real time lighting and yet you still choose to believe that it's nothing more then smoke and mirrors? I think what he means, is there is no AI, physics, etc running in the RE tech demo on 3DS. Cutscenes always look better, it doesn't matter that you could move the camera, as everything else is still scripted. It was still impressive. 3DS is not even out and the games look great already, it will only get better.Here's a link that seems relevant to the topic. For those of you too lazy to click on a simple button, it says that the 3DS, as of now, looks to be graphically between the Dreamcast and the PS2 but is ahead of even the Wii in the effects department.
Another thing I found was the specs of the DMP's PICA200 and this spec comparison of the GPU's of the PSP, 3DS, DS and the iPhone.
I can't make too much sense of it but feel free to elaborate if you feel you know more. I ripped the chart from GoNintendo and they seem to have made a mistake in saying the GPU is clocked at 400MHz as its actually clocked at 200MHz on the 3DS. Just thought you guys should know that.
IDK but it seems that 3DS wins. Anyway, wouldn't the pixel total be 1120x240 (not 480)?Here's a link that seems relevant to the topic. For those of you too lazy to click on a simple button, it says that the 3DS, as of now, looks to be graphicall betwwn the Dreamcast and the PS2 but is ahead even the Wii in the effects department.
Another thing I found was this spec comparison of the GPU's of the PSP, 3DS, DS and the iPhone.
I can't make too much sense of it but feel free to elaborate if you feel you know more.
destroyerHHH
THREEEE DEEEE! (fake 3D btw, same from a single screenshot)
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