Is the console war still relevant now that 360 is going on 5 years?

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#1 bphan
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Why are so many people still interested?

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#2 KevinButlerVP
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cause this generation is far from over?
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#3 treedoor
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It's more interesting to wonder why it's still going on considering the Wii won a long time ago.

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#4 bphan
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It's more interesting to wonder why it's still going on considering the Wii won a long time ago.

treedoor

That's true but why are people still so into this as if its life or death. All this seems like old news.

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#5 themyth01
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cause this generation is far from over?KevinButlerVP
But MS already won, so did Nintendo, and Sony is starting to as well. MS sold more than 15 million more units than their last unit, has been making a profit for about 3 years, it's been good for them. Nintendo has sold so many Wiis, that even they were surprised. Sony is finally starting to make some money on their entertainment division.
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#6 gamebreakerz__
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[QUOTE="bphan"]

[QUOTE="treedoor"]

It's more interesting to wonder why it's still going on considering the Wii won a long time ago.

That's true but why are people still so into this as if its life or death. All this seems like old news.

Sales mean nothing. By your logic, Wii play is one of the greatest games ever to exist.
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#7 santoron
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I suppose it'll be relevant to those trying to make the object of their affection look like "teh winner" until new shiney consoles come out andit starts all over again.

Other than that the only real news relevant are:

Nintendo is still a dominant force to be reckoned with, long after many had declared them irrelevant and heading towards oblivion.

Microsoft is a serious competitor in the gaming industry, even though pundits declared them a failure a generation ago.

Sony isn't invincible, depite the analysts that claimed differently, and finds itself in a real competition for the first time since they entered the market over 15 years ago.

...and you're right. Most people could have figured these out a couple years ago.

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#8 KillTheKing2011
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I've never been interested & really don't know why anybody really would actually care.

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[QUOTE="bphan"][QUOTE="treedoor"]It's more interesting to wonder why it's still going on considering the Wii won a long time ago.gamebreakerz__
That's true but why are people still so into this as if its life or death. All this seems like old news.

Sales mean nothing. By your logic, Wii play is one of the greatest games ever to exist.

Whatever you say. Winners have always been decided by who sells the most but since it's the Wii, let's throw that rule out the window. I love the little island that be System Wars.

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#10 Phazevariance
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Why are so many people still interested?

bphan
No next gen consoles are announced... that 'could' be a reason why... people gotta talk about something.
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#11 gamebreakerz__
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[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"][QUOTE="bphan"]That's true but why are people still so into this as if its life or death. All this seems like old news.Hexagon_777

Sales mean nothing. By your logic, Wii play is one of the greatest games ever to exist.

Whatever you say. Winners have always been decided by who sells the most but since it's the Wii, let's throw that rule out the window. I love the little island that be System Wars.

I would like to think that winners are decided by which system has the best games. Do you actually think Wii sport is the greatest game of all time?
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#12 Devil-Itachi
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[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"] Sales mean nothing. By your logic, Wii play is one of the greatest games ever to exist.gamebreakerz__

Whatever you say. Winners have always been decided by who sells the most but since it's the Wii, let's throw that rule out the window. I love the little island that be System Wars.

I would like to think that winners are decided by which system has the best games. Do you actually think Wii sport is the greatest game of all time?

Actually in the real world the Wii won, it has nothing to do with being the best. You're being silly.
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[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"][QUOTE="bphan"]That's true but why are people still so into this as if its life or death. All this seems like old news.Hexagon_777

Sales mean nothing. By your logic, Wii play is one of the greatest games ever to exist.

Whatever you say. Winners have always been decided by who sells the most but since it's the Wii, let's throw that rule out the window. I love the little island that be System Wars.

The console with the most sales always had the best games also, until the Wii.
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5 years? Wow, it's surprising how young this generation feels.
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[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"][QUOTE="bphan"]That's true but why are people still so into this as if its life or death. All this seems like old news.Hexagon_777

Sales mean nothing. By your logic, Wii play is one of the greatest games ever to exist.

Whatever you say. Winners have always been decided by who sells the most but since it's the Wii, let's throw that rule out the window. I love the little island that be System Wars.

Yes but to many the wii game wise doesn't match the gaming library of the other consoles... it wasn't the same during the PS2 era where it dominated in both sales dans games, PS1, Snes, Nes...
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I suppose it'll be relevant to those trying to make the object of their affection look like "teh winner" until new shiney consoles come out andit starts all over again.

Other than that the only real news relevant are:

Nintendo is still a dominant force to be reckoned with, long after many had declared them irrelevant and heading towards oblivion.

Microsoft is a serious competitor in the gaming industry, even though pundits declared them a failure a generation ago.

Sony isn't invincible, depite the analysts that claimed differently, and finds itself in a real competition for the first time since they entered the market over 15 years ago.

...and you're right. Most people could have figured these out a couple years ago.

santoron

Common sense on SW, who would have believed it. ;)

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[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"][QUOTE="bphan"]

[QUOTE="treedoor"]

It's more interesting to wonder why it's still going on considering the Wii won a long time ago.

That's true but why are people still so into this as if its life or death. All this seems like old news.

Sales mean nothing. By your logic, Wii play is one of the greatest games ever to exist.

Sales mean a lot actually, Wii got MH3 because of it. And this generation has been shaped because of the best selling games (MW2, Wii fit). So yes, sales are definitely important.
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sales have not been the rules of sw, you have to realize the ps2 did sell the most but it was the winner on sw because of its quality titles.......
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sales have not been the rules of sw, you have to realize the ps2 did sell the most but it was the winner on sw because of its quality titles.......Microsoft1234
Agreed. Just because all the kiddies got a Wii for christmas doesn't make it a good console.
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#20 Ravensmash
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[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"] Sales mean nothing. By your logic, Wii play is one of the greatest games ever to exist.gamebreakerz__

Whatever you say. Winners have always been decided by who sells the most but since it's the Wii, let's throw that rule out the window. I love the little island that be System Wars.

I would like to think that winners are decided by which system has the best games. Do you actually think Wii sport is the greatest game of all time?

Because 'best games' is complete opinion. Sales = fact.
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#21 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"] Sales mean nothing. By your logic, Wii play is one of the greatest games ever to exist.gamebreakerz__
Whatever you say. Winners have always been decided by who sells the most but since it's the Wii, let's throw that rule out the window. I love the little island that be System Wars.

I would like to think that winners are decided by which system has the best games. Do you actually think Wii sport is the greatest game of all time?

I thought we are talking console sales here, not game sales. Either way, sales are objective and the quality of a game is subjective. I know people who highly enjoy Dynasty Warriors: Gundam 2 for the PlayStation 3 (54% on Metacritic) for crying out loud but they call Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance for the PlayStation 2 (87% on Metacritic) a bad game. I find it hard to accept, but different strokes for different folks I guess.

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#22 Hexagon_777
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sales have not been the rules of sw, you have to realize the ps2 did sell the most but it was the winner on sw because of its quality titles.......Microsoft1234

DVD playback, ease of piracy, and low durability had nothing to do with it, I'm sure. :P

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#23 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"][QUOTE="bphan"]That's true but why are people still so into this as if its life or death. All this seems like old news.nintendo-4life
Sales mean nothing. By your logic, Wii play is one of the greatest games ever to exist.

Sales mean a lot actually, Wii got MH3 because of it. And this generation has been shaped because of the best selling games (MW2, Wii fit). So yes, sales are definitely important.

Sales mean a lot to a gamer for several reasons, true. People who just think that you must own stock in the company to care about sales amuse me every time (although we haven't had anybody say such things in a while to my knowledge, unfortunately, for it'd be easy ownage).

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#24 crystos
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i'm just glad this gen is still going. I don't have space on my shelf for another system....5 systems is all ic an spare
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[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"][QUOTE="bphan"]That's true but why are people still so into this as if its life or death. All this seems like old news.Hexagon_777

Sales mean nothing. By your logic, Wii play is one of the greatest games ever to exist.

Whatever you say. Winners have always been decided by who sells the most but since it's the Wii, let's throw that rule out the window. I love the little island that be System Wars.

always since when?

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#26 SecretPolice
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Been an odd gen IMO since there is no clear winner.

Sure Wii won sales but it seems to me MS, N & Sony have gained in some area & lost in others but yeah, no doubt that Sony seems to have lost the most making next gen even harder to predict. :P

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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

Sales mean nothing. By your logic, Wii play is one of the greatest games ever to exist.gamebreakerz__

Whatever you say. Winners have always been decided by who sells the most but since it's the Wii, let's throw that rule out the window. I love the little island that be System Wars.

always since when?

It's ok you are still a Winner in my book Casey.
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#28 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

Whatever you say. Winners have always been decided by who sells the most but since it's the Wii, let's throw that rule out the window. I love the little island that be System Wars.

KingTuttle

always since when?

It's ok you are still a Winner in my book Casey.

well it certainly wasn't last gen or even last year.

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Why are so many people still interested?

bphan

Because

1. Gets the most non linear and complex games like Mass Effect 1-2, Fable 2 and not just linear games on paths (GOW3, Uncharted 1-2 etc)

2. Gets the most advanced controls with Natal, totally hands free

3. Gets the ultimate console graphics with Alan Wake, plus the best advanture for years now

4. Gets a huge new exclusive sequelfor every hit game it has, Fable 3, Mass Effect 3, Gears 3, Halo Reach, Kingdom Under Fire 2: Dominion

5. Is only 199$ and has visuals that best 99% of PCs out there with games like Alan Wake

6. Has a huge game library, far bigger than the rest of consoles

7. Has by miles the best online system and XBLA that gets more and more games all the time

8. Gets the best JRPGs, like Lost Odyssey

9. Gets the most innovative games this generation in Banjo 3, Viva Pinata 1-2, Fable 2-3 etc and of course there is Natal games around the corner

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[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"] Sales mean nothing. By your logic, Wii play is one of the greatest games ever to exist.Hexagon_777

Sales mean a lot actually, Wii got MH3 because of it. And this generation has been shaped because of the best selling games (MW2, Wii fit). So yes, sales are definitely important.

Sales mean a lot to a gamer for several reasons, true. People who just think that you must own stock in the company to care about sales amuse me every time (although we haven't had anybody say such things in a while to my knowledge, unfortunately, for it'd be easy ownage).

I don't see a problem in that either, most fans cheer when their favorite sports team wins a match yet most of them get nothing out of it. Why is that so different from what fans are doing here?
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#32 skektek
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This gen war doesn't end until all the next-gen systems are released.

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#33 theseekar
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BTW have you seen Alan Wake ?


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Seems 360 is winning theconsole war, if that is what the TC meant

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[QUOTE="bphan"]

Why are so many people still interested?

theseekar

Because

1. Gets the most non linear and complex games like Mass Effect 1-2, Fable 2 and not just linear games on paths (GOW3, Uncharted 1-2 etc)

2. Gets the most advanced controls with Natal, totally hands free

3. Gets the ultimate console graphics with Alan Wake, plus the best advanture for years now

4. Gets a huge new exclusive sequelfor every hit game it has, Fable 3, Mass Effect 3, Gears 3, Halo Reach, Kingdom Under Fire 2: Dominion

5. Is only 199$ and has visuals that best 99% of PCs out there with games like Alan Wake

6. Has a huge game library, far bigger than the rest of consoles

7. Has by miles the best online system and XBLA that gets more and more games all the time

8. Gets the best JRPGs, like Lost Odyssey

9. Gets the most innovative games this generation in Banjo 3, Viva Pinata 1-2, Fable 2-3 etc and of course there is Natal games around the corner

Wow, can I borrow your fanboy googles :lol:
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#35 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"] Sales mean nothing. By your logic, Wii play is one of the greatest games ever to exist.CaseyWegner
Whatever you say. Winners have always been decided by who sells the most but since it's the Wii, let's throw that rule out the window. I love the little island that be System Wars.

always since when?

How about the weekly, monthly, and yearly sales threads? How about people undermining consoles by pointing to lacklustre sales? How about "Sony and Microsoft fighting for second place"? How about "The PS3 is only 5 million behind the Xbox 360 now"? Sales decide the winner. The island of System Wars should be no exception to this, and it seemingly isn't.

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#37 theseekar
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[QUOTE="theseekar"]

[QUOTE="bphan"]

Why are so many people still interested?

kuraimen

Because

1. Gets the most non linear and complex games like Mass Effect 1-2, Fable 2 and not just linear games on paths (GOW3, Uncharted 1-2 etc)

2. Gets the most advanced controls with Natal, totally hands free

3. Gets the ultimate console graphics with Alan Wake, plus the best advanture for years now

4. Gets a huge new exclusive sequelfor every hit game it has, Fable 3, Mass Effect 3, Gears 3, Halo Reach, Kingdom Under Fire 2: Dominion

5. Is only 199$ and has visuals that best 99% of PCs out there with games like Alan Wake

6. Has a huge game library, far bigger than the rest of consoles

7. Has by miles the best online system and XBLA that gets more and more games all the time

8. Gets the best JRPGs, like Lost Odyssey

9. Gets the most innovative games this generation in Banjo 3, Viva Pinata 1-2, Fable 2-3 etc and of course there is Natal games around the corner

Wow, can I borrow your fanboy googles :lol:

Well, you could at least bring some actual arguments to the table

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#38 clone01
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[QUOTE="treedoor"]

It's more interesting to wonder why it's still going on considering the Wii won a long time ago.

bphan

That's true but why are people still so into this as if its life or death. All this seems like old news.

eh, its system wars, that's what people do here.
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#40 clone01
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oh what now that PS3 is about to take its crown back ppl think its irrelavent? surprise surprise. Exclusive_Count
i'm certain you'll have a long and storied posting history here at system wars.
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#41 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="bphan"]

Why are so many people still interested?

Phazevariance

No next gen consoles are announced... that 'could' be a reason why... people gotta talk about something.

Heh, I think we should all think of something new to talk about.

Like Alan Wake's graphics, that's a fresh topic. :P

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#42 Hexagon_777
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oh what now that PS3 is about to take its crown back ppl think its irrelavent? surprise surprise. Exclusive_Count

It will still be a while before the PlayStation 3 surpasses the Xbox 360 in sales and in order for the PlayStation 3 to take its crown back, it would need to surpass both the Xbox 360 as well as the Wii in sales.