Is the PLUG dangerously close to being PULLED on PS3. LINKS

With close to a billion in loss for the PS3 this year

And now the ever so seemly major development issues for PS3 by developers.

And as of last week it was rumored that Sony was BEGGING developers to do not jump ship on the PS3.

One thing is for sure no one ever thought Sony would be in the position they are in now.

LAST PLACE and loosing money BIGTIME in there game division.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6181712.html?action=convert&om_clk=latestnews&tag=latestnews;title;0

this reminds me of sony defense forces...but the other way around.

loss=/=pulling ps3.

what did you expect, for them to make a billion dollar profit?

You can keep hoping for that if it makes you sleep well.SolidSnake35

:lol: Seriously, man.

I don't want Sony to drop out, and neither should you. They moved the industry forward, and their last 2 generation consoles were impressive.

What I do want, to some extent, is for the PS3 to fail as a gaming console, or at least, to suffer. I don't want other companies releasing $600 consoles with features that don't belong on consoles, like Sony. With the way things are going for the PS3, I think I can rest easily about this.

Also, even if the PS3 fails miserably, Sony won't drop out. They'll at least give it a try in the next generation. Hopefully with a cheaper and more to-the-point console, one that I will actually buy.

Xbox was $4 billion in the red last generation. Did it get pulled?fuzzysquash

Yeah but the real big problem Sony has is the PS3 is underperforming performance wise and developers are very close to scrapping PS3 development. So they can make there $$$ on 360 with a big install base.

I mean Sony is beeging them not to at this point. This is badvery BADfor Sony right now.

Xbox was $4 billion in the red last generation. Did it get pulled?fuzzysquash

Thing is, $4 billion is the veritable drop in the bucket for Microsoft. Sony's gaming division is preventing the company of seeing profits 200% or *more* than they are right now. (Probably closer more to 250-300% more profit)

[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"]Xbox was $4 billion in the red last generation. Did it get pulled?Fuzzy_Munch

Yeah but the real big problem Sony has is the PS3 is underperforming performance wise and developers are very close to scrapping PS3 development. So they can make there $$$ on 360 with a big install base.

I mean Sony is beeging them not to at this point. This is badvery BADfor Sony right now.

This is different from Xbox last gen?

I am keeping hope for the PS3 to continue. I have a Wii and a PS3 and I don't want a 360.

Metal Gear Solid 4
Killzone 2
Little Big Planet
Gran Turismo 5
Infamous
Eight Days
The Getaway
GTA IV
DMC IV
Tekken 6
White Knight Story
Disgea 3
Final Fantasy XIII
PSN HOME.
Dual Shock 3.
40GB PS3 Model.
New SOny Dev Apps.
Increased 3rd PArty support.

All the signs suggest otherwise.

This situation could easily turn around, most of costs are development, and manufacturing. Which go down yearly.

Who gives a crap?Gamersince81

Its teh 3 year curse!

NES, SNES both had great libraries. The N64 was the opposite, basically having to live off first party titles.

Seems like Sony is going to have to live off firsty party and second party titles aswell. I doubt any third party developers are going to try to figure out the "power of the cell" when the Xbox 360 is easier to dev for. I love Sony..but im not a blind fanboy.

Its teh 3 year curse!

NES, SNES both had great libraries. The N64 was the opposite, basically having to live off first party titles.

Seems like Sony is going to have to live off firsty party and second party titles aswell. I doubt any third party developers are going to try to figure out the "power of the cell" when the Xbox 360 is easier to dev for. I love Sony..but im not a blind fanboy.

xDonRobx

Sony has some good devs, incognito aka singletrac twisted metal developers, they have a few others, didnt they just buy out zipper interactive? they good, socom is good.

That's what microsoft lacks first party games or atleast cool ones or variety.

With close to a billion in loss for the PS3 this year

And now the ever so seemly major development issues for PS3 by developers.

And as of last week it was rumored that Sony was BEGGING developers to do not jump ship on the PS3.

One thing is for sure no one ever thought Sony would be in the position they are in now.

LAST PLACE and loosing money BIGTIME in there game division.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6181712.html?action=convert&om_clk=latestnews&tag=latestnews;title;0

Fuzzy_Munch

No, they wont pull a sega and just drop a console becuase it starts out poorly. They also have the ps2 and psp to keep them going.

[QUOTE="xDonRobx"]

Its teh 3 year curse!

NES, SNES both had great libraries. The N64 was the opposite, basically having to live off first party titles.

Seems like Sony is going to have to live off firsty party and second party titles aswell. I doubt any third party developers are going to try to figure out the "power of the cell" when the Xbox 360 is easier to dev for. I love Sony..but im not a blind fanboy.

ut3nophysics

Sony has some good devs, incognito aka singletrac twisted metal developers, they have a few others, didnt they just buy out zipper interactive? they good, socom is good.

That's what microsoft lacks first party games or atleast cool ones or variety.

No, thats complete misinformation about Microsoft.

I really don't see how the cows arrogance last gen could be any worse than lemmings arrogance this gen...

Seeing threads like this gives me tremendous respect for sheep. Nintendo dominating the market and they don't feel the need to do stuff like this.

Increased 3rd PArty support.

All the signs suggest otherwise.

This situation could easily turn around, most of costs are development, and manufacturing. Which go down yearly.

Adrian_Cloud

why is sony begging 3rd party devs not to leave then?

I really don't see how the cows arrogance last gen could be any worse than lemmings arrogance this gen...

Seeing threads like this gives me tremendous respect for sheep. Nintendo dominating the market and they don't feel the need to do stuff like this.

nicenator

How many sheep arent casuals this gen?

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]

Increased 3rd PArty support.

All the signs suggest otherwise.

This situation could easily turn around, most of costs are development, and manufacturing. Which go down yearly.

shoeman12

why is sony begging 3rd party devs not to leave then?

MGS4 and FFXIII are big money, thats why.

Xbox was $4 billion in the red last generation. Did it get pulled?fuzzysquash

microsoft has unlimited money sony doesn't have as much to blow hell gates gave away 40 billion a few years ago it didn't even make a dent

Sony has way too much time/money invested in Blu-Ray to call it quits this early...

With close to a billion in loss for the PS3 this year

And now the ever so seemly major development issues for PS3 by developers.

And as of last week it was rumored that Sony was BEGGING developers to do not jump ship on the PS3.

One thing is for sure no one ever thought Sony would be in the position they are in now.

LAST PLACE and loosing money BIGTIME in there game division.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6181712.html?action=convert&om_clk=latestnews&tag=latestnews;title;0

Fuzzy_Munch

They knew from the beginning they were gonna lose money on the hardware. There were news articles back in 2005 about this. Apparently they were gonna break even in the third year of the console, and profit in the fourth. If the console had sold like they hoped, the losses would have been much bigger

I remember all the doomsayers in the beginning of this year. "Sony failed" "The PS3 won't last another month" "The Horror...The Humanity!" "I think I wet my pants.." Yeah yeah, we've heard it before. Don't think so.Ibacai

just wait...

[QUOTE="xDonRobx"]

Its teh 3 year curse!

NES, SNES both had great libraries. The N64 was the opposite, basically having to live off first party titles.

Seems like Sony is going to have to live off firsty party and second party titles aswell. I doubt any third party developers are going to try to figure out the "power of the cell" when the Xbox 360 is easier to dev for. I love Sony..but im not a blind fanboy.

ut3nophysics

Sony has some good devs, incognito aka singletrac twisted metal developers, they have a few others, didnt they just buy out zipper interactive? they good, socom is good.

That's what microsoft lacks first party games or atleast cool ones or variety.

it was not long ago sony bought the company that made motorstorm. I dont know if that would be included in the loss in profits for the gaming division. I personally feel 2008 will be a new start for sony with all the top games due out at the start of the year

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]

Increased 3rd PArty support.

All the signs suggest otherwise.

This situation could easily turn around, most of costs are development, and manufacturing. Which go down yearly.

shoeman12

why is sony begging 3rd party devs not to leave then?

asking third party developers to be patient with the ps3 is not the same as begging them to develope for it. third party developers should show sony some loyalty. alot ofgame developers are only here today because of sonys drive to push the games industry forward.

See threads like this shows the maturity of lemmings, do all of you think like this, i know cows are bad but this is just....Paddy345

Theres a 3500+ sticky thread that shows how mature cows are.

[QUOTE="Paddy345"]See threads like this shows the maturity of lemmings, do all of you think like this, i know cows are bad but this is just....Pro_wrestler

Theres a 3500+ sticky thread that shows how mature cows are.

Yep, and half of that thread is Lemmings going "LOL FLOPPAGE!!!1!111!!!!"

Whats your point?

[QUOTE="Gamersince81"]Who gives a crap?munsoned

Exactly...that's the reason for all the angry posts that came right before yours.

I keep advising PS3 owners to sell their consoles now while they still have some value...but all I get is a bunch of replies accusing me of being a fanboy. Sigh.

Seriously, this gen belongs to Microsoft and Nintendo. People that are not emotionally attached to their console can clearly see this.

Everyone on here posting that Sony is in trouble is nuts.burner0921

I bet this is what Sega fanboys used to say just before the Dreamcast was pulled from the market.

I don't want Sony to drop out, and neither should you. They moved the industry forward, and their last 2 generation consoles were impressive.

What I do want, to some extent, is for the PS3 to fail as a gaming console, or at least, to suffer. I don't want other companies releasing $600 consoles with features that don't belong on consoles, like Sony. With the way things are going for the PS3, I think I can rest easily about this.

Also, even if the PS3 fails miserably, Sony won't drop out. They'll at least give it a try in the next generation. Hopefully with a cheaper and more to-the-point console, one that I will actually buy.

Rev3nger

So....you saying you didn't buy the one you have, since you gave the impression that you have a PS3.