Is the PS3 as unreliable as the PS3, or is the Red Ring of Death a Microsoft con

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#1 lsesrekmsa66
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I know people will laugh, but I want a PS3 over a 360, mainly because of God of War 3 and the 360 notorious red ring of death. I want to know: does the PS3 have any major flaw like the red ring of death that I should be aware of, or is the 360 still the less reliable console? Please tell the truth and not attempt to prompt me into buying a 360 falsely.
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#2 sleepingzzz
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I don't know "is the PS3 as unreliable as the PS3?" You tell me.
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#3 thrones
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Major flaw? Losing third party exclusives >.>
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#4 ONLYDOD
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The PS3's failure rate is considerably lower than the 360's.
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#5 deactivated-5fc39ee132cf4
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I've never encountered the RROD, though I hope to soon......I want a hdmi 360 :P
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#6 Burnsmiesta
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I don't understand? If RRoD discourages you from buying a 360 (RRoD is an actual issue) why would MS lying to you about a "fake" hardware problem lead you to buy a 360?
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#7 crazy-player
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The PS3 does have something like the red rings of death, but its very rare to get it.
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#8 lsesrekmsa66
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oh wow, im a dumbass, sorry about the retarded topic title, im so stupid:oops:
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It's ok. :P
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I heard of a few like the PSN update bricking systems and the80010514error code (I think that was the one that kills your PS3) but these problems are minor unlike the RROD which I seen it twice
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#11 sleepingzzz
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oh wow, im a dumbass, sorry about the retarded topic title, im so stupid:oops:lsesrekmsa66

Don't worry about it. I've done it a bunch of times myself. It's still fun to rag on you about it though haha.:lol:

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#12 jonnyt61
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There's nothing at all on the scale of RROD, with recent Firmware scares mainly blown out of proportion

Most people estimate it at 1~3% failure rate, however, the PAL 40GB model has a little trouble with Disk Drive failure, but that in itself is still -at most- 5%
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#13 angelkimne
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I've never encountered the RROD, though I hope to soon......I want a hdmi 360 :PNeontope
They don't replace your console.

Unless you have a shop warranty that is...

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#14 -GhostMLD-
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i got news for you.

god of war 3 is likely to be early 2010

Jasper is a mere few weeks away, shrinking that troublesome GPU and end the RROD.

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Is the PS3 as unreliable as the PS3, or is the Red Ring of Death a Microsoft con lsesrekmsa66
What?
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#16 argetlam00
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You should actully buy a 360 now. The RROD is all but finished since the falcon chip came out. It has currently more AAA games than the PS3 and Wii combined and has more exclusives coming out this year. But its your choice I guess.
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#17 thrones
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i got news for you.

god of war 3 is likely to be early 2010

Jasper is a mere few weeks away, shrinking that troublesome GPU and end the RROD.

-GhostMLD-
*shrug* So was the last chipset.
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#18 carlisledavid79
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i got news for you.

god of war 3 is likely to be early 2010

Jasper is a mere few weeks away, shrinking that troublesome GPU and end the RROD.

-GhostMLD-

Just wait.

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#19 -GhostMLD-
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[QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

i got news for you.

god of war 3 is likely to be early 2010

Jasper is a mere few weeks away, shrinking that troublesome GPU and end the RROD.

thrones

*shrug* So was the last chipset.

thrones, ur smarter then that

RROD is a gpu issue, Jasper has a shrinked gpu, Falcon had no shrinked gpu, see what im getting at?

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#20 -GhostMLD-
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[QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

i got news for you.

god of war 3 is likely to be early 2010

Jasper is a mere few weeks away, shrinking that troublesome GPU and end the RROD.

carlisledavid79

Just wait.

i wait weeks, u wait years for KZ 2 and GT5.

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#21 atarigrad
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I've never encountered the RROD, though I hope to soon......I want a hdmi 360 :PNeontope

It doesn't work that way. If you send yours back they either repair it or send you another without HDMI. Trust me I sent my launch back. They couldn't repair it. So I got another console without HDMI.

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#22 thrones
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thrones, ur smarter then that

RROD is a gpu issue, Jasper has a shrinked gpu, Falcon had no shrinked gpu, see what im getting at?

-GhostMLD-
There has never been an official report on what caused the RROD, it's all mere speculation.

i wait weeks, u wait years for KZ 2 and GT5.

-GhostMLD-
Wait, you're buying a brand new Xbox 360 to ensure it never gets RROD? >.>
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#23 carlisledavid79
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[QUOTE="carlisledavid79"][QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

i got news for you.

god of war 3 is likely to be early 2010

Jasper is a mere few weeks away, shrinking that troublesome GPU and end the RROD.

-GhostMLD-

Just wait.

i wait weeks, u wait years for KZ 2 and GT5.

So youre buying a new 360 then. Must not have that much confindence in your current 360.

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#24 -GhostMLD-
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[QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

thrones, ur smarter then that

RROD is a gpu issue, Jasper has a shrinked gpu, Falcon had no shrinked gpu, see what im getting at?

thrones
There has never been an official report on what caused the RROD, it's all mere speculation.

i wait weeks, u wait years for KZ 2 and GT5.

-GhostMLD-

Wait, you're buying a brand new Xbox 360 to ensure it never gets RROD? >.>

my elite is fine and I have a cold basement, keeping it cool all the time

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#25 -GhostMLD-
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[QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"][QUOTE="carlisledavid79"][QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

i got news for you.

god of war 3 is likely to be early 2010

Jasper is a mere few weeks away, shrinking that troublesome GPU and end the RROD.

carlisledavid79

Just wait.

i wait weeks, u wait years for KZ 2 and GT5.

So youre buying a new 360 then. Must not have that much confindence in your current 360.

I meant I wait weeks for 360 to get something new,. I have personally no interest, my April 07 Elite is fine, but many will finally get off the fence and get a 60 gig Jasper Pro

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#26 carlisledavid79
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I meant I wait weeks for 360 to get something new,. I have personally no interest, my April 07 Elite is fine, but many will finally get off the fence and get a 60 gig Jasper Pro

-GhostMLD-

Waiting a mere few weeks for a problem that should never of been that high in the first place. My first 360 RROD in 6 months. Luckily this one has been ok .

But hey, try and spin the RROD into something positive if you must.

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I hope I get RRoD, then I can give the phone to my father, and he'll be sure to get my money back, he did that to sony with my ps2.

If I tried to do it, they would just laugh.

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#28 -GhostMLD-
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[QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

I meant I wait weeks for 360 to get something new,. I have personally no interest, my April 07 Elite is fine, but many will finally get off the fence and get a 60 gig Jasper Pro

carlisledavid79

Waiting a mere few weeks for a problem that should never of been that high in the first place. My first 360 RROD in 6 months. Luckily this one has been ok .

But hey, try and spin the RROD into something positive if you must.

the only positive thing i can spin is that itll all be over with the jasper chipeset, which will be integrated in all skus by late august.

plus, cows can stop using that as their only way to counter respond.

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#29 carlisledavid79
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the only positive thing i can spin is that itll all be over with the jasper chipeset, which will be integrated in all skus by late august.

plus, cows can stop using that as their only way to counter respond.

-GhostMLD-

The RROD will never diminish. Yes the problem will be reduced greatly id say to arround a 5% failure rate, but it will never and I repeat never go away.

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#30 jonnyt61
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[QUOTE="carlisledavid79"][QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

I meant I wait weeks for 360 to get something new,. I have personally no interest, my April 07 Elite is fine, but many will finally get off the fence and get a 60 gig Jasper Pro

-GhostMLD-

Waiting a mere few weeks for a problem that should never of been that high in the first place. My first 360 RROD in 6 months. Luckily this one has been ok .

But hey, try and spin the RROD into something positive if you must.

the only positive thing i can spin is that itll all be over with the jasper chipeset, which will be integrated in all skus by late august.

plus, cows can stop using that as their only way to counter respond.



What happens to anyone who purchased/purchases one before August?
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I have 2 360s. One is my kids and the other is mine. I've had to send them both off due to the RROD, but Microsoft got them both back to me within 2wks. My PS3 had a hard drive issue when I first got it, I took it back and my new one has worked fine for about 4 months(knock on wood). I have a HDMI equipped 360, which I hear runs cooler, and is less prone to the RROD.Had it for about 7 or 8 months with no issues. I say it really depends on exclusives, controller preference, and online experience. Both are great machines and have their + and -. GET BOTH.
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#32 mistervengeance
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360 is far more unreliable, plus it's just made generally cheap and crappy.

the ps3 is a great piece of machinery that should last 10 years without a problem. (it may melt several things if you put them next to it though)

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#33 CB4McGusto
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-GhostMLD- you are the biggest lemming fanboy ever!

I just thought you should know something about yourself.

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haha
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#35 ChrnoTrigger
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-GhostMLD- you are the biggest lemming fanboy ever!

I just thought you should know something about yourself.

CB4McGusto


he calls himself the "lemming general" He knows that he's a fanboy, no point telling that to him.

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#36 haemorrhagiae
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ps3 is without flaws console wise.

Xbox360 is ugly,noisy,high failure rate and its controller deeply and epicly fails to oblivion gates of doom/hell.

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I heard of a few like the PSN update bricking systems and the80010514error code (I think that was the one that kills your PS3) but these problems are minor unlike the RROD which I seen it twicechansaet

i got that but i got it fixed in 2 weeks. its free if it happens within a year.

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The only problems I know about for the PS3 are (I don't know any statstical rates, sorry):

The Blu-Ray disc reading errors (Only heard of 1 so far though)

The YLOD (Pronounced EE-LOD) or the "Yellow Light Of Death" in which your console has overheated (pretty easy to avoid with decent ventilation and weekly dusting using that special spray you use for PC's)

And the 2.4 brick. Which I don't think should affect any console from here on.

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360 is far more unreliable, plus it's just made generally cheap and crappy.

the ps3 is a great piece of machinery that should last 10 years without a problem. (it may melt several things if you put them next to it though)

mistervengeance

Hehe, I left it to do Folding at Home for like a day at work, and one of my controllers is shape slightly funny near the bottom.

Its not noticeable if you don't look very closely for it.

It sorta looks like burnt skin on a human after a fire. Its sad, but thats the only thing I could think of.

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[QUOTE="carlisledavid79"][QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

I meant I wait weeks for 360 to get something new,. I have personally no interest, my April 07 Elite is fine, but many will finally get off the fence and get a 60 gig Jasper Pro

-GhostMLD-

Waiting a mere few weeks for a problem that should never of been that high in the first place. My first 360 RROD in 6 months. Luckily this one has been ok .

But hey, try and spin the RROD into something positive if you must.

the only positive thing i can spin is that itll all be over with the jasper chipeset, which will be integrated in all skus by late august.

plus, cows can stop using that as their only way to counter respond.

But how do you know FOR SURE that this will either end RRoD or greatly reduce the rate of RRoD?

Is it really the "Falcon Chip" and the chip before that?

How are we sure its not the concave exterior of the console? Or the disk extending tray? Or the loud fans that accidentally burst dust into the wrong place?

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360 all the way buddy, you will have alot more fun.
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[QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

the only positive thing i can spin is that itll all be over with the jasper chipeset, which will be integrated in all skus by late august.

plus, cows can stop using that as their only way to counter respond.

carlisledavid79

The RROD will never diminish. Yes the problem will be reduced greatly id say to arround a 5% failure rate, but it will never and I repeat never go away.

I really hate to take part in these console wars. But if it's true that the new X360 failure rates will be around 1-5 % then they're at the same level as PS3 and Wii.

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#43 lsesrekmsa66
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thanks for all the help, but even if xbox failure rate goes down to being as low as the ps3, i still want a ps3 because im a fan of all of sony's franchises like gow and mgs. i just needed to know if ps3 had an equal or higher failure rate than 360
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#44 whodey8584
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[QUOTE="carlisledavid79"][QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

i got news for you.

god of war 3 is likely to be early 2010

Jasper is a mere few weeks away, shrinking that troublesome GPU and end the RROD.

-GhostMLD-

Just wait.

i wait weeks, u wait years for KZ 2 and GT5.

Its smart to buy stuff you know will break sometime.

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#45 carljohnson3456
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I've never encountered the RROD, though I hope to soon......I want a hdmi 360 :PNeontope

Unless you actually plan on purchasing a new 360, they dont give you an HDMI equipped 360 refurb automatically. I think it's just the luck of the draw, lol.

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#46 hopesfall2own
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ps3 is without flaws console wise.

haemorrhagiae

How's life in denial?

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#47 1xcalibur1
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This is hillarious.

So many people wishing for their 360 to get RRODed.

I certainly hope you guys wont get what you wish too little too late.

Then again, since 360's issue is with overheating, try making it run in a dry sauna.

You should be discoing to them red lights in no time :)

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#48 gdp72
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The 60gb PS3 can be prone to Blu-ray laser lens failure. I know, I'm currently dealing with this issue on my PS3 which is past the warranty. The 40/80gb units have a dual laser lens set-up and I'm not sure how reliable those are. I guess time will tell. The good thing about this is the part for the 60gb PS3s, KES-400A is very simple to replace with some guidance.

The 360s issue I believe has to do with overheating the unit thus frying several hardware components. It has a 3 year warranty which you may need down the road. I wish Sony had a 3 year warranty now.

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#49 DirtyHorse
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Faceplam to the topic anyone??? Fineeeee i'll do it.