is the ps3 realy that much better than the 360?

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#1 d_ano
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if the ps3 had a normal dvd drive like the 360 would they be the same? is the graphic hardware better than the 360 because i heard the ps3's processors dont work well together and that the 360 processor is a lot better than it. which 1 is the best?(not counting the blu ray)
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#3 Bandit_Haze
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if the ps3 had a normal dvd drive like the 360 would they be the same? is the graphic hardware better than the 360 because i heard the ps3's processors dont work well together and that the 360 processor is a lot better than it. which 1 is the best?(not counting the blu ray)d_ano

don't concern yourself with technical mumbo jumbo, just concern yourself with which one has the most games you like

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#4 theboxmike
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360 = Better games = Better console

Though i own both and love both

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#5 greg_splicer
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if the ps3 had a normal dvd drive like the 360 would they be the same? is the graphic hardware better than the 360 because i heard the ps3's processors dont work well together and that the 360 processor is a lot better than it. which 1 is the best?(not counting the blu ray)d_ano

The question is why is 360 so much better than PS3, that costs 600$

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#6 danneswegman
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[QUOTE="d_ano"]if the ps3 had a normal dvd drive like the 360 would they be the same? is the graphic hardware better than the 360 because i heard the ps3's processors dont work well together and that the 360 processor is a lot better than it. which 1 is the best?(not counting the blu ray)Bandit_Haze

don't concern yourself with technical mumbo jumbo, just concern yourself with which one has the most games you like


agreed
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#7 d_ano
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no if u read it the question is "is the ps3 realy that much better than the 360?" why do ye keep telling me what to think instead of just giving me a simple answer i do want to consern myself with mumbo jumbo i wanted to know which was the best
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if the ps3 had a normal dvd drive like the 360 would they be the same? is the graphic hardware better than the 360 because i heard the ps3's processors dont work well together and that the 360 processor is a lot better than it. which 1 is the best?(not counting the blu ray)d_ano

360 is red rings of death. 

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#9 w4rhawk
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360 now.PS3 later. That's how I see it.
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#10 danneswegman
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no if u read it the question is "is the ps3 realy that much better than the 360?" why do ye keep telling me what to think instead of just giving me a simple answer i do want to consern myself with mumbo jumbo i wanted to know which was the best d_ano

there is no BEST... they are game consoles... they are pretty similar. PS3 is more powerfull, but the 360 has a better graphics card...
But i think you want to play games on it. So what counts is what game you lie to play....
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my brain cells are failing at life......miserably:|
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even with blu-ray the difference isn't very noticable.  The ps3 wins out in some areas slightly (hardware based), and the 360 has some advantages too (software/api based).

Disk format - what most people don't talk about blu-ray is how slow it is loading information, techinically it's not much of a difference from dvd-9 but there's really no advantage to that since to take advatage of more space you suffer from longer load times trying to load that "extra quality".  Blu-ray does have an advantage in hd-cgi cut scenes, but if you pay attention to game development you've probably noticed they're being phased out for in-game engine cut scenes (like the MGS4 trailer). 

Very small advantage ps3.

CPU - We hear alot about how uber powerful the cell is and it seems pretty impressive in theory, but we don't really know how well those theories are going to work in game development.  We know that the cell is great for info processing like @-home, or HD video codecs, but how well is it going to run game physics, AI, triggers, ect which are quite different.  Well nobody really knows, and even put the doubt in favor for the cell it's not really so overpowering that we're going to see any major differences in the two systems.  The 360's cpu is 3 cores which according to Cliffy B (the guy who made GeOW) only scratched the surface of.  Some people are reporting that he mostly only used 1 core for GeOW, but you must remember if all 3 cores are used doesn't mean it's going to run 3x faster, or better.

Very small advantage ps3

Ram - remember when I was talking about the "extra quality" for the disc format, well this is another portion where that extra quality can't easily be obtained.  The ps3 splits up it's ram into 256 of XDR ram (faster ram), and 256 of the same ram the 360 uses.  Well the advantage the ps3 has with the XDR ram is null since it's not in matched with the 256 ram which causes headaches if you try to use them together (I won't say it can't be done).  Next is you have a limited amount of Ram in both machines anyway meaning even at optimal performance you can still only display 500 mb of information (I took some out for background apps which both systems run) meaning you can't really use that you would have to be extremely careful about loading many large type files into the system.  To me it seems both consoles can get buy with 256 ram so I'm gonna go w/ no advantage for either on this one.

Tie

GPU - yea the 360 has not only better specs on the GPU, but also it has better software (APIs) to run he GPU. Sony has gotten a bit better about developing API's as compaired to the ps2, and ps1, but they are quite a bit behind.  One advantage that sony has is that the cell SPE's can be programmed to run as graphics gpu, but don't expect them to be efficient.  Despite that I still give a slight advantage to the 360 since I'm fairly confident that even with properly using the cell the 360 can produce better lighting, more verticies, better mapping.

Advantage 360 (throw in the cell and it's "slight advantage 360")

 

I could go over the differences in how each systems parts interact with each other but it's very very complicated and it's not like anybody is going to read what I typed.

The ps3 has a slight power advantage over the 360 but it's so small that a game on the other system is likely to look better because of the developer over the differences in power. 

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#15 Leejjohno
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Its not better anyway. So far the 360 has proven its self a better console
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#16 greg_splicer
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360 has FAR better GPU in reality, and FAR better ram in real game environments, plus the CPU is amazing too, we can't tell if PS3 cell is any better, so far what we see is nothing really amazing or not done before
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#17 d_ano
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thanks jrhawk42  thats what i wanted to know thats some good info. i wasnt bothered with the games because the 360 has been out way longer than the ps3 so of course its gonna have more games i dont know how some of ye dont understand this. i know that it doesnt matter how good the console is u need the game to use the consoles power which most dont comparing a good few 360 games to gears of war which was amazing. so thanks again jrhawk i just have to wait for MGS4 and see how unreal or terrible it is
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#18 Bread_or_Decide
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PS3 and 360 both have very neat things that set them apart.

The PS3 is the best "all in one package" you can get.

The 360 has more games and XBL is tested and proven where PS3's online is not.

Then again PS3 free online is free and on the 360 it is not.

PS3 plays HD movies out of the box. 360 needs attachments.

PS3 controllers come with rechargable batteries the 360  wireless controller requires a 30 dollar accessory for this feature.

PS3 has an attachment that will let you download your PS and PS2 save date onto the PS3. 360 doesn't.

Is it better? I dunno, make you up your own mind.

 

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#19 BonesNFG
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PS3 and 360 both have very neat things that set them apart.

The PS3 is the best "all in one package" you can get.

The 360 has more games and XBL is tested and proven where PS3's online is not.

Then again PS3 free online is free and on the 360 it is not.

PS3 plays HD movies out of the box. 360 needs attachments.

PS3 controllers come with rechargable batteries the 360  wireless controller requires a 30 dollar accessory for this feature.

PS3 has an attachment that will let you download your PS and PS2 save date onto the PS3. 360 doesn't.

Is it better? I dunno, make you up your own mind.

 

Bread_or_Decide

 

The ps3 doesn't play HD DVD's

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#20 d_ano
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it can the ps3 is so damn expensive because of that, blu ray is hd dvd of course not an actual dvd its a blu ray disc but its the same thing
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#21 piemister
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it is a better console but right now it isnt noticeable over the years you will see it seperate itself from the 360.