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#1 Vinegar_Strokes
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With games like

Killzone 3D

Uncharted 3D

Resistance 3D

it seem like Sony is focusing on the shooter market.

is this a reaction to Call of duty do you think?

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#2 johny300
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With games like

Killzone 3D

Uncharted 3D

Resistance 3D

it seem like Sony is focusing on the shooter market.

is this a reaction to Call of duty do you think?

Vinegar_Strokes
I think this is a reaction to MS.
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#3 WilliamRLBaker
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The ps3 and the 360 have always been matched in shooter amounts and beyond the rhetoric from cows Fps's garner some of the most sales on the ps3.

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#4 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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More like this is a shooter generation.
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#5 XaosII
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No, its a reaction to the console crowd finally having online and realizing that they've always wanted shooters and now its in the honeymoon phase of "oohh shooters r kewl!" while its old and trite for PC gamers.

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#6 kuraimen
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No because even with more exclusive shooters than 360 it still has more variety exclusives coming than the 360.
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#7 CajunShooter
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With games like

Killzone 3D

Uncharted 3D

Resistance 3D

it seem like Sony is focusing on the shooter market.

is this a reaction to Call of duty do you think?

Vinegar_Strokes

Uncharted isn't a Shooter.

Sony has a lot more exclusives this just two shooters though.

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#8 WilliamRLBaker
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No because even with more exclusive shooters than 360 it still has more variety exclusives coming than the 360. kuraimen
Which is completely false, but please do keep telling your self that. I do like how you caught your self at the last second and mentioned exclusives but still false.
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#9 locopatho
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PS3 does have more shooters. Resistance, Killzone, Socom, Mag, Warhawk, Uncharted. More games is a good thing tho.

No, its a reaction to the console crowd finally having online and realizing that they've always wanted shooters and now its in the honeymoon phase of "oohh shooters r kewl!" while its old and trite for PC gamers.

XaosII
We always had shooters :?
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#10 SecretPolice
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Yes, the 360 & PS3 have changed identities from a few years ago where now the PS3 has only shooters and the 360 has no games. :twisted:

Seriously, both have been and are still false. :P

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#11 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="CajunShooter"]

[QUOTE="Vinegar_Strokes"]

With games like

Killzone 3D

Uncharted 3D

Resistance 3D

it seem like Sony is focusing on the shooter market.

is this a reaction to Call of duty do you think?

Uncharted isn't a Shooter.

Sony has a lot more exclusives this just two shooters though.

Actually it is. when 70-80% of your game is spent shooting enemies, hitting targets...etc and 20-30 is platforming and puzzles then your a shooter. then we just take a look at Uncharted 2's multiplayer...yeah shooter..
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#12 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"]No because even with more exclusive shooters than 360 it still has more variety exclusives coming than the 360. WilliamRLBaker
Which is completely false, but please do keep telling your self that. I do like how you caught your self at the last second and mentioned exclusives but still false.

No it is not false, it is accurate. The 360 exclusive lineup is almost exclusively dedicated to shooters unlike the other consoles which have more variety. Well and Kinect now. I would call it the Oprah/shooter console :P
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="CajunShooter"]

[QUOTE="Vinegar_Strokes"]

With games like

Killzone 3D

Uncharted 3D

Resistance 3D

it seem like Sony is focusing on the shooter market.

is this a reaction to Call of duty do you think?

Uncharted isn't a Shooter.

Sony has a lot more exclusives this just two shooters though.

Actually it is. when 70-80% of your game is spent shooting enemies, hitting targets...etc and 20-30 is platforming and puzzles then your a shooter. then we just take a look at Uncharted 2's multiplayer...yeah shooter..

Its a hyrbid
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#14 lamprey263
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not until they fix the controller, the Xbox 360 controller is much better suited for shooters than the DS3 is
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#15 sinpkr
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lol no. xbox has had much better shooters in general then ps3. Halo 3 is one of the best shooter games out there and its on xbox

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#16 Timstuff
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not until they fix the controller, the Xbox 360 controller is much better suited for shooters than the DS3 islamprey263
I can barely notice a difference. They are both inferior to a mouse and keyboard, and they both work about the same. The position of the left analog stick doesn't really mean jack diddly at the end of the day since it has nothing to do with how accurately you can aim.
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#17 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="kuraimen"]No because even with more exclusive shooters than 360 it still has more variety exclusives coming than the 360. kuraimen
Which is completely false, but please do keep telling your self that. I do like how you caught your self at the last second and mentioned exclusives but still false.

No it is not false, it is accurate. The 360 exclusive lineup is almost exclusively dedicated to shooters unlike the other consoles which have more variety. Well and Kinect now. I would call it the Oprah/shooter console :P

No its false exclusive racing games, platforming games, shooters, rts...etc But hey more A, AA, and untill this year more AAA games, it has more games released, And the sales talk stop when the cows stop with the sales talk, More world wide hardware sales, 100 million plus more software sales world wide then the ps3.
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#18 h575309
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Every platform has a bunch of shooters (save handhelds) so I dont really know where your going with this.

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#19 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="CajunShooter"] Uncharted isn't a Shooter.

Sony has a lot more exclusives this just two shooters though.

CajunShooter

Actually it is. when 70-80% of your game is spent shooting enemies, hitting targets...etc and 20-30 is platforming and puzzles then your a shooter. then we just take a look at Uncharted 2's multiplayer...yeah shooter..

Its a hyrbid

Then black ops is a hybrid shooter/rpg since you can purchase weapons and abilities.

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#20 clr84651
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With games like

Killzone 3D

Uncharted 3D

Resistance 3D

it seem like Sony is focusing on the shooter market.

is this a reaction to Call of duty do you think?

Vinegar_Strokes

Plus it has The Move to use with these shooters and Kinect wont do shooters. I think that PS3 is now the shooter king which used to be xbox.

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#21 CajunShooter
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[QUOTE="CajunShooter"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] Actually it is. when 70-80% of your game is spent shooting enemies, hitting targets...etc and 20-30 is platforming and puzzles then your a shooter. then we just take a look at Uncharted 2's multiplayer...yeah shooter..WilliamRLBaker

Its a hyrbid

Then black ops is a hybrid shooter/rpg since you can purchase weapons and abilities.

Sure
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#22 Nintendo_Ownes7
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Every platform has a bunch of shooters (save handhelds) so I dont really know where your going with this.

h575309

Handhelds have Shooters, DS has FPSs and SHMUPs. PSP has some FPSs and SHMUPs.

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#23 Swift_Boss_A
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TC you forgot Socom 4!

Now lets look at a bunch of games that are not shooters; LBP2, Yakuza 4, inFAMOUS 2, Twisted Metal, Journey, The Last Guardian and Motorstorm Apocalypse. Variety that's what I love about the PS3 :D
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#24 CajunShooter
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[QUOTE="CajunShooter"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] Actually it is. when 70-80% of your game is spent shooting enemies, hitting targets...etc and 20-30 is platforming and puzzles then your a shooter. then we just take a look at Uncharted 2's multiplayer...yeah shooter..WilliamRLBaker

Its a hyrbid

Then black ops is a hybrid shooter/rpg since you can purchase weapons and abilities.

But out of the major genres of games: Action Action-Adventure Adventure Music Puzzle Role Playing Simulation Sports Strategy Where would you place Uncharted? It would fall into Action-Adventure.
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#25 h575309
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[QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]

[QUOTE="h575309"]

Every platform has a bunch of shooters (save handhelds) so I dont really know where your going with this.

Handhelds have Shooters, DS has FPSs and SHMUPs. PSP has some FPSs and SHMUPs.

I didnt think the DS had that many shooters, maybe Im wrong. Your right, I forgot about all the freakin shooters on the PSP. I guess it is just the shooter generation.
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#26 Vinegar_Strokes
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

[QUOTE="CajunShooter"] Its a hyrbidCajunShooter

Then black ops is a hybrid shooter/rpg since you can purchase weapons and abilities.

But out of the major genres of games: Action Action-Adventure Adventure Music Puzzle Role Playing Simulation Sports Strategy Where would you place Uncharted? It would fall into Action-Adventure.

nope it would fall under the subsection of shooters know as the Third Person Shooter.
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#27 locopatho
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

[QUOTE="CajunShooter"] Its a hyrbidCajunShooter

Then black ops is a hybrid shooter/rpg since you can purchase weapons and abilities.

But out of the major genres of games: Action Action-Adventure Adventure Music Puzzle Role Playing Simulation Sports Strategy Where would you place Uncharted? It would fall into Action-Adventure.

It's a shooter game, you spend the vast majority of your time shooting and taking cover. Its often compared to Gears.
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I don't know if the PS3 is the new shooter console, but Vanquish is definitely the shooter to beat now. :)
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nope it would fall under the subsection of shooters know as the Third Person Shooter. Vinegar_Strokes
Clearly there was no adventure happening in Uncharted 1&2, I must have just imagined the paltforming and puzzle-solving :roll: Do me a favour son and actually play the games.
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#30 Hahadouken
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Hmm the title of all of those games indicates that they are the THIRD iterations of said franchises. Doesn't exactly make a compelling argument for how Sony is "becoming" anything. Why leave out all the action-adventures, platformers, racing games, sports games, RPGs etc. except to create a very narrow and biased view that supports a specific argument? Yeah that's what I thought.
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#31 cainetao11
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To chime in in this, IMO, Uncharted is a shooter. That's the main gameplay mechanic in it and the MP. Now it has a lot of different flavors, but shooting is the bread and butter.
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#32 gfhgfhfgfhgfhgf
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[QUOTE="Vinegar_Strokes"]

With games like

Killzone 3D

Uncharted 3D

Resistance 3D

it seem like Sony is focusing on the shooter market.

is this a reaction to Call of duty do you think?

johny300
I think this is a reaction to MS.

pc lol
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#33 Swift_Boss_A
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To chime in in this, IMO, Uncharted is a shooter. That's the main gameplay mechanic in it and the MP. Now it has a lot of different flavors, but shooting is the bread and butter.cainetao11
True but it's not strictly an shooter game like Vanquish or Gears. I would say it falls into the action-adventure genre because in both Uncharted titles released you are moving from location to location, traversing hazards, platforming and a lot of puzzle solving.
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#34 Vinegar_Strokes
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[QUOTE="Vinegar_Strokes"]nope it would fall under the subsection of shooters know as the Third Person Shooter. Swift_Boss_A
Clearly there was no adventure happening in Uncharted 1&2, I must have just imagined the paltforming and puzzle-solving :roll: Do me a favour son and actually play the games.

yep i played (and finished) U1 and U2. jim1975 is my PSNiD if you want to check.
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#35 cainetao11
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[QUOTE="cainetao11"]To chime in in this, IMO, Uncharted is a shooter. That's the main gameplay mechanic in it and the MP. Now it has a lot of different flavors, but shooting is the bread and butter.Swift_Boss_A
True but it's not strictly an shooter game like Vanquish or Gears. I would say it falls into the action-adventure genre because in both Uncharted titles released you are moving from location to location, traversing hazards, platforming and a lot of puzzle solving.

Hence the use of IMO. I call it a shooter. Is there action and adventure in it? Of course, but there was plenty action in Gears, and Fable2.
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[QUOTE="lamprey263"]not until they fix the controller, the Xbox 360 controller is much better suited for shooters than the DS3 isTimstuff
I can barely notice a difference. They are both inferior to a mouse and keyboard, and they both work about the same. The position of the left analog stick doesn't really mean jack diddly at the end of the day since it has nothing to do with how accurately you can aim.

In GT5 the DS3 has superior sensitivity, even the slightest movement on the analogue can make your car move a little.. Must be devs who create this "dead-space" we hear about... I am sure this kind of sensitivity can be used in shooters as well..

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[QUOTE="Vinegar_Strokes"]nope it would fall under the subsection of shooters know as the Third Person Shooter. Swift_Boss_A
Clearly there was no adventure happening in Uncharted 1&2, I must have just imagined the paltforming and puzzle-solving :roll: Do me a favour son and actually play the games.

First Half-Life has plenty of platforming and puzzle solving. Still it is first person shooter. You spent majority of your time shooting things in UC2. Therefore it is a shooter.

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[QUOTE="CajunShooter"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] Then black ops is a hybrid shooter/rpg since you can purchase weapons and abilities.

locopatho

But out of the major genres of games: Action Action-Adventure Adventure Music Puzzle Role Playing Simulation Sports Strategy Where would you place Uncharted? It would fall into Action-Adventure.

It's a shooter game, you spend the vast majority of your time shooting and taking cover. Its often compared to Gears.

Cool so when we see the GOTY awards next year Uncharted 3 will be in the Shooter category instead of the Action-Adventure?

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No, its a reaction to the console crowd finally having online and realizing that they've always wanted shooters and now its in the honeymoon phase of "oohh shooters r kewl!" while its old and trite for PC gamers.

XaosII
is this elitist attitude the reason anyone else avoids pc gaming?
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#40 NaveedLife
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Nah, its focusing on everything, including shooters:

LBP2

Infamous 2

The Last Guardian

FF Vs XIII

Motorstorm: Apocalypse

Agent

and many more

just because it has more FPS exclusives than the 360 doesn't mean it ONLY has FPS's, it also has more of everything else too :P.

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#41 tbolt76
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No, the PS3's controller is awful for shooters.

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#42 Chris_Williams
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No, the PS3's controller is awful for shooters.

tbolt76
i don't agree with that but okay, the 360 controller cramps up my hands and i feel i'm waay quicker on the draw when i'm using a ps3 controller, its all subjective really
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#43 Chutebox
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With games like

Killzone 3D

Uncharted 3D

Resistance 3D

it seem like Sony is focusing on the shooter market.

is this a reaction to Call of duty do you think?

Vinegar_Strokes
Uncharted is not a shooter.
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#44 FIipMode
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Nah, since the 360 controller is much better suited for first person shooters (I mean the controllers are called 'triggers' for god sakes). And shooters perform better on that console (3,000,000 online for Black Ops is insane) it will be looked at more as the shooter console. That's my take on it, and really shooter console isn't that bad of a nickname. Also Uncharted ain't no shooter.

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#45 gfhgfhfgfhgfhgf
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No, the PS3's controller is awful for shooters.

tbolt76
it's not awful, but my fingers always slip off the r2 l2 buttons on ps3 controller. they should of made them curved so ur finger doesnt slip off.
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#46 SolidTy
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With games like

Killzone 3D

Uncharted 3D

Resistance 3D

it seem like Sony is focusing on the shooter market.

is this a reaction to Call of duty do you think?

Vinegar_Strokes

Uncharted doesn't even qualify...that was just thrown there. It has shooting, but it is an action platformer with puzzles as well. If Uncharted 2 is considered a shooter, then so is Mass Effect 2...c'mon we know there is more going on here, especially for gamers that played these games (like myself):P

Regarding KZ and Resistance, If those were the only BIG games Sony released, then I'd totally agree. However, then Sony releases games like LittleBigPlanet, LBP2, InFamous, InFamous 2, Ratchet series, Heavy Rain, MLB:The Show, God of War 3, GT5, Motorstorm Apocalypse, Yakuza, Agent, Demon's Souls, Twisted Metal, Journey, The Last Guardian, etc.

TC, it seems you cherry picked a few shooters and tried to pigeon hole the PS3 as a shooter console, but just look at the upcoming games for PS3 or the games that came out for the PS3 and they show your premise has no merit.

What upcoming games are coming out for say the 360, TC?

It's all about balance. Sony doesn't seem to rely on Shooters which is the key difference, but yes, they do have their fair share of shooters. The enormous 1st Party of Sony doesn't just rely on shooters every holiday as their Big selling Franchise.

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#47 johnlennon28
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ps3's have more than just shooter, ofcourse if you only mention resistance and killzone it does sounds like a shooter console but if you mention the other non shooter games then its not, ps3's got variety..... 360 is being called the shooter console because the most popular games on it are shooters (halo) and the 360 audience prefer shooters
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#48 dog_dirt
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[QUOTE="Vinegar_Strokes"]

With games like

Killzone 3D

Uncharted 3D

Resistance 3D

it seem like Sony is focusing on the shooter market.

is this a reaction to Call of duty do you think?

Chutebox
Uncharted is not a shooter.

yeah it is. 80% of the time your shooting. a few jumps and puzzles dont change that
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#49 Swift_Boss_A
Member since 2007 • 14579 Posts

[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"][QUOTE="Vinegar_Strokes"]nope it would fall under the subsection of shooters know as the Third Person Shooter. Icarian

Clearly there was no adventure happening in Uncharted 1&2, I must have just imagined the paltforming and puzzle-solving :roll: Do me a favour son and actually play the games.

First Half-Life has plenty of platforming and puzzle solving. Still it is first person shooter. You spent majority of your time shooting things in UC2. Therefore it is a shooter.

You guys are all over the place :lol: I guess sub-genre's mean nothing in SW, first UC is Shooter then First Person shooter. Why don't we just say they are survival horror games and call it a day lol. I have to say it's a really crummy way to bash the game :|

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#50 Filthybastrd
Member since 2009 • 7124 Posts

[QUOTE="CajunShooter"]

[QUOTE="Vinegar_Strokes"]

With games like

Killzone 3D

Uncharted 3D

Resistance 3D

it seem like Sony is focusing on the shooter market.

is this a reaction to Call of duty do you think?

WilliamRLBaker

Uncharted isn't a Shooter.

Sony has a lot more exclusives this just two shooters though.

Actually it is. when 70-80% of your game is spent shooting enemies, hitting targets...etc and 20-30 is platforming and puzzles then your a shooter. then we just take a look at Uncharted 2's multiplayer...yeah shooter..

Unless it's ME2 right?