Is the real fight now between Wii and PS3?...

The fact that the PS3 only sold 90,000 less units than the Wii on black friday is quite telling.. the Wii had a 38% drop in sales from last year black friday week while the PS3 had a total of 33.8% increase over one whole month last month! the PS3 sold more in one week than the whole month of october!

The fact that MS has said "The 360 sold double than the previous week before black friday" is actually very bad.. if you consider the 360 sells a average of 55,000 consoles a week in the US, lets say the 360 sold 70,000 consoles the week before black friday, that would mean the 360 sold 140,000 consoles for the week of black friday which is 200,000 less than the PS3.. and that is very staggering.

So now with Wii sales definatley starting to decline and cool off and PS3 sales just getting started and gaining momentum as time goes on, is the fight now between the PS3 and Wii while the 360 will sort of be on the back burner coming in 3rd place?

Oh keep in mind i am in no way saying the PS3 will surpass the wii anytime soon, but its intersting to see how Wii sales are clearly cooling off.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! PS3 didnt even beat 360 to start fighting Wii.

first SW ignores the wii

and has lots of ps3 vs xbox360 threads,

and now this?

how can 3rd place battle 1st?

why would there be a 'fight' between 1st and 3rd place consoles instead of 1st and 2nd?

The PS3 still has yet to surpass the 360 in sales.

in sales (which don't matter!) its wii vs. 360 (for now)

in games its PS3 vs. 360

We will just have to wait and see, even IF the current sales figures for the ps3 continued it would still take 2 years to catch up to the 360, and by then everyone is releasing a next gen console anyways

Not by a long shot... PS3 is still trailing the 360 in consoles sold... it's had an impressive run since the price drop, but it won't be enough to close the gap...

EDIT: Didn't Nintendo recently announce that Wii sales have, in fact, been doing quite fine since it's respective price-drop a short time ago?

You have to beat second place before you can challenge first. And FYI. 550k - 440k = 110k, not 90k.
For the record as well, you can't have record sales every year, the Wii in 2007 was lower than 2008.

...No. PS3 hasn't outsold 360 yet.

Anyway, according to you the PS3's dying. So why do you care?

Yep it's all over for teh 360. :O

You have to beat second place before you can challenge first. .

ActicEdge

Last time I checked, the 360 is still in second place.

you realize that lots of people are buying the PS3 due to price drop. Soon it will decline in sales as the majority of people that want one, have one. So I dont even see it getting out of 3rd place for a long time

The 360 is still in 2nd so no.

If a Rolls Royce was lowered to the price of a Nissan, would anyone be suprised that it would sell well? The PS3 is the highest end of the three consoles and now it is in it's sweetest price point, and Playstation is the most popular name in home console gaming. Why is this suprising people?cainetao11

Doesn't even make sense. In the Stanley Cup or World Series, do they put the team in third against the team in first and forget about the team in second? No. Let's wait for the PS3 to actually be in second before giving it a shot at the title, a title that the Wii holds far over its competitors head's by the way

omfg learn to read grammar.... he said the PS3 sold 90,000 less units than the Wii, not 90,000 less units than the last PS3 count.

The_EdgE999

I stopped reading right here. You know why? Because your telling us to learn grammer when you and TCdon't even have the basic math correct. 550k-440k = 110k not 90k.

that means theres a whole year there where 360 has no main competition... a whole year in which to build up a decent head start.

I am willing to bet that if we disregard the total sales volume, and focus on the sales count from THIS YEAR ONLY, the count would be much closer...

The_EdgE999

Why even mention the year headstart? The Wii launched after the PS3 and still managed to ousell both consoles.

Really? Counting sales from certain years because the PS3 isn't outselling anything? Really? Including stuff into the equation? Really? No. You see, there is no equation. There is truth and there is spin. Truth is the Wii is in 1st. The 360's 2nd. The PS3's 3rd.

Spin is the PS3's outselling the 360 if we count this year only.

I stopped reading right here. You know why? Because your telling us to learn grammer when you and TC can't even do basic....... stuff.

ActicEdge

Careful. I'd really hate to see you banned...

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I stopped reading right here. You know why? Because your telling us to learn grammer when you and TC can't even do basic....... stuff.

Silverbond

Careful. I'd really hate to see you banned...

Really, if that is moderation worthy I deserve banishment.

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I stopped reading right here. You know why? Because your telling us to learn grammer when you and TC can't even do basic....... stuff.

ActicEdge

Careful. I'd really hate to see you banned...

Really, if that is moderation worthy I deserve banishment.

I don't really know. But I wouldn't take chances.

I've seen people complain over some pretty ridiculous moderations.

Dreamcast V2

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I stopped reading right here. You know why? Because your telling us to learn grammer when you and TC can't even do basic....... stuff.

Careful. I'd really hate to see you banned...

Really, if that is moderation worthy I deserve banishment.

bah, nitpick nitpick, i was quoting the buddy who was talking about the 90,000, i had already read your post about the math.

and yes, the year head start does matter when talking about overall sales figures. 6 million unit lead is huge. everyone knows that 360 is a more popular console for several reasons. but to say that PS3 is not catching up is folly..

Look closer than that though. This is a debate about Wii vs PS3 sales. Clearly this holiday season is leaning towards Wii and PS3 so far. Microsoft not releasing their numbers is circumstantial evidence of this. In a market largely based on gifting and holiday sales, its important that a system does well during this time.

There is another reason for concern here. If PS3 starts to outsell the 360 on a more constant basis, we may see a pricedrop on the 360, which will mean a pricedrop for PS3 close behind, while this is good for the consumer, it is bad for the industry. Higher prices means higher profits means higher game budgets means higher game quality.

Currently, the ideal market situation for the 3 consoles would be with the Wii leading by a health margin (not a massive one), with the PS3 and 360 battling it out for 2-3. If the 360 begins to outsell the PS3, or vise versa, the market comes away the worse for wear...

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Zombie2k

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't PS3's sales already way surpassed the Dreamcast?

bah, nitpick nitpick, i was quoting the buddy who was talking about the 90,000, i had already read your post about the math.

and yes, the year head start does matter when talking about overall sales figures. 6 million unit lead is huge. everyone knows that 360 is a more popular console for several reasons. but to say that PS3 is not catching up is folly..

Look closer than that though. This is a debate about Wii vs PS3 sales. Clearly this holiday season is leaning towards Wii and PS3 so far. Microsoft not releasing their numbers is circumstantial evidence of this. In a market largely based on gifting and holiday sales, its important that a system does well during this time.

There is another reason for concern here. If PS3 starts to outsell the 360 on a more constant basis, we may see a pricedrop on the 360, which will mean a pricedrop for PS3 close behind, while this is good for the consumer, it is bad for the industry. Higher prices means higher profits means higher game budgets means higher game quality.

Currently, the ideal market situation for the 3 consoles would be with the Wii leading by a health margin (not a massive one), with the PS3 and 360 battling it out for 2-3. If the 360 begins to outsell the PS3, or vise versa, the market comes away the worse for wear...

The_EdgE999

This actually isn't true. Also, I nit pick when people are going out of there way to be disruptive and rude. Subraction of numbers is not something that should be so difficult to get right.

Now, a 360 pricedrop will not be followed by a PS3 price drop right away if Sony is still making good money and selling well. It will only happen when Sony either runs the course of its curent price or significantly faulters sometime in the future. You drop your price for your benefit, not to counter your competitors.

As for being bad for the industry not at all, primarily, the majority of sales are made in the $200 range. The only companies that take a hit are first parties, third parties have a better chance of selling more software on cheaper hardware. As for the ideal way the market should be, in complete honesty, it doesn't matter. For publishers the ideal would have been if Sony just dominated. The Wii leading right now does most of the top publishers no good since they don't put big selling games on it.

NO! Before you cows get too ahead of yourselfs, wait till it beats the Xbox 360 then think about beating the wii sales.93soccer

[QUOTE="cainetao11"]If a Rolls Royce was lowered to the price of a Nissan, would anyone be suprised that it would sell well? The PS3 is the highest end of the three consoles and now it is in it's sweetest price point, and Playstation is the most popular name in home console gaming. Why is this suprising people?surrealnumber5

There is another reason for concern here. If PS3 starts to outsell the 360 on a more constant basis, we may see a pricedrop on the 360, which will mean a pricedrop for PS3 close behind, while this is good for the consumer, it is bad for the industry. Higher prices means higher profits means higher game budgets means higher game quality.

The_EdgE999

Higher development costs are the reason games cost more at retail. Doesn't seem to be worth it really in my opinion.