Is the Switch heading down the path of the Wii?

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#1 SolidGame_basic  Online
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This is more of a question about games. It seems like the Switch went from having a crap load of big titles at launch, to having a pretty mild 2018. And now, 2019 isn’t looking that great either. Am I rite, SW? Or am I missing something?

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#3 jcrame10
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Yep, they blew their load in the first 2 years just like the Wii did:

Zelda Breath of the Wild

Super Mario Odyssey

Mario Kart 8 (a port)

Super Smash Bros Deluxe

They'll have some legs with the next-gen Pokemon game, open world Pokemon game that is supposedly coming, and Mario Kart 9. After those come out though I think it'll be dead in the water with no major AAA third party games coming to the system. No big titles for them so we will not see millions upon millions of software sales or significant amount of hardware being bought. Only a select few will be rushing to the stores to grab a Switch for Fire Emblem, Metroid, Animal Crossing, Star Fox or F-Zero.

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#4 dark_drag765
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Nah, I foresee a prosperous future for the switch

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#5  Edited By Pedro
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The Switch is the only true next gen console and the savior of gaming with the largest library of the best version of multiplatform games and it’s spectacular implementation of online gaming. The system offers the best gaming experience over its competitors with a slew of triple A third party support. It’s the most cost effective next gen system with a ample amount of built in storage. Digital purchases are forward compatible with Nintendo’s legendary support for preserving gamers purchases for future use. The Switch is going places, literally.?

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Compared to Sony have only 1 big game in its first 2 years? a bought exclusive reskin (Bloodborne)?

@ipex What shovelware? It's been getting tons of great 3rd party multiplats (that it can run) ... its ENTIRELY different to the Wii's slew of shitty games.

@jcrame10 So basically 5-10 games in its life that are "The big ones" ... how is that any different to Sony? I appreciate Sony has the whole "Multiplat" advantage. But you people were saying 2018 woudl be a "downward spiral for the switch because of its dry year" yet look record sales...

Maybe..... just maybe, a full console-handheld device with plenty of unique games and a decent ammount of good easy-to-run multiplats is enticing enough on its own!

Pokemon

Zelda 2 (good chance of this... BOTW was done practically before Switch went live.... using the same engine, we could easily see a Majora's mask equivalent , already hinted at)

Pokemon

Fire Emblem

Combined with all of their lesser titles, is pleanty.

That is far more than Microsoft or Sony offer, if you ar ea multi device owner.

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The Switch is trash and sales have peaked. It’s already on the downward trend and it suffers from massive game droughts with terrible online.

But hey, Sheep get to play a couple 30 Year old trash NES games every month....LOL

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It is a known fact that Nintendo is doomed. All the 1000 threads predicting Switch's failure have all been spot on so far.

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#9  Edited By 93BlackHawk93
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@ajstyles said:

The Switch is trash and sales have peaked. It’s already on the downward trend

lmao

Remember when you said the Switch wouldn't outsell the GC? Remember when you said Smash is just a niche franchise? The delusion is strong within you, Stuff.

SUPER SMASH BROS. ULTIMATE THE FASTEST SElLLING EXCLUSIVE OF 2018

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Well, games take years to produce especially with Nintendo that don't release games needing a number of patches. We could very well see MP4 and Bayonetta 3 this year.

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Going the way of the Wii, as in poised to be one of Nintendo's most successful consoles in the company's history? Yeah, probably.

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@SolidGame_basic: I suppose it could tail in terms of their big flagship games... It seems we've gotten a taste of all their franchises... I think if they drop a new Zelda (rumored) and Metroid 4 actually sees this console there may be some exciting times ahead... In the meantime, and maybe more importantly for me, they are getting a lot of great time sink, gameplay heavy indie games on the eshop.

CrossCode on switch? That's as good to me as a new Mario game.

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I don't see how that would happen?

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#14  Edited By Renegade_Fury
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Sales wise, maybe, but the Wii actually has a decent amount of games that I like. When comparing libraries, I view the Switch as more analogous to the Wii U, but it's even worse.

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I can't wait to play CrossCode and Pillars if Eternity 2 on it this year, personally

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#16  Edited By jcrame10
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@kali-b1rd said:

Compared to Sony have only 1 big game in its first 2 years? a bought exclusive reskin (Bloodborne)?

@ipex What shovelware? It's been getting tons of great 3rd party multiplats (that it can run) ... its ENTIRELY different to the Wii's slew of shitty games.

@jcrame10 So basically 5-10 games in its life that are "The big ones" ... how is that any different to Sony? I appreciate Sony has the whole "Multiplat" advantage. But you people were saying 2018 woudl be a "downward spiral for the switch because of its dry year" yet look record sales...

Maybe..... just maybe, a full console-handheld device with plenty of unique games and a decent ammount of good easy-to-run multiplats is enticing enough on its own!

Pokemon

Zelda 2 (good chance of this... BOTW was done practically before Switch went live.... using the same engine, we could easily see a Majora's mask equivalent , already hinted at)

Pokemon

Fire Emblem

Combined with all of their lesser titles, is pleanty.

That is far more than Microsoft or Sony offer, if you ar ea multi device owner.

Even if you only owned a PS4, you're getting Resident Evil 2, Kingdom Hearts 3, Anthem, Days Gone and Devil May Cry 5 all in the next 3 months. That's just the ones I know of and am interested in- there are other AAA and indie games coming. PS4 you get every major third party release as well as all of the Sony first party titles.

Compared to that list, what is Switch's next game that is not a third party port or a Wii U/3DS port? Yoshi's Crafted World coming in March? So basically in the same time period Sony is getting 5x more content on the Playstation versus what Nintendo will receive on the Switch.

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#17 SolidGame_basic  Online
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@TheEroica said:

@SolidGame_basic: I suppose it could tail in terms of their big flagship games... It seems we've gotten a taste of all their franchises... I think if they drop a new Zelda (rumored) and Metroid 4 actually sees this console there may be some exciting times ahead... In the meantime, and maybe more importantly for me, they are getting a lot of great time sink, gameplay heavy indie games on the eshop.

CrossCode on switch? That's as good to me as a new Mario game.

Hmm.. I'll check out CrossCode. It doesn't alarm you that Nintendo hasn't been giving us much updates on 2019 titles?

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I still think 2019 looks better on Switch than anything else, but we shall see.

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Seems like it, Switch and Wii are the only Nintendo consoles I haven't bought.

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@ajstyles said:

The Switch is trash and sales have peaked. It’s already on the downward trend and it suffers from massive game droughts with terrible online.

But hey, Sheep get to play a couple 30 Year old trash NES games every month....LOL

Where were you at when I needed some salt for my fries?

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@ajstyles said:

The Switch is trash and sales have peaked. It’s already on the downward trend and it suffers from massive game droughts with terrible online.

But hey, Sheep get to play a couple 30 Year old trash NES games every month....LOL

The salt of this fanboy is just laughable. Switch is fine and it will do just fine. WTF is wrong with fanboys like this.

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So much Nintendo hate in this thread.

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C'mon guys give solidcowbasic the answers he wants to hear, because the Switch outsold his precious PS4 in December and he needs reassurance that it will all be ok lol.

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#24  Edited By KBFloYd
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metroid prime 4

fire emblem

animal crossing

yokai watch

pokemon open world

bayonetta 3

yoshi crafted world

sin megami tensei 5

luigis mansion 2

Town (gamefreak IP)

possibly:

mario kart 9

super mario bros 2D

metroid prime trilogy HD

overwatch

pubG (hopefully. it works on mobile phones)

persona 5 R

pikmin 4 (thnx mandzilla)

3rd party

doom eternal

mortal kombat 11

wolfenstein youngblood?

marvel alliance 3

final fantasy 7,9, XHD, XIIHD

team sonic racing

dragon quest 11S

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yea it has no games for the future. its dead.

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if pokemon and animal crossing are coming this year then thats 2 big games that will take 100s of hours to complete (can you complete animal crossing?). if pokemon is a big open world pokemon game like that photshop one that was floating around (which they could do...i dont think they will. but they could. i'm just saying)......god help any game that releases in it's release window. an epic Zelda like trailer with the pokemon theme blasting out in epic fashion showing off capturing pokemon, using them in battles, using them to solve puzzles and so on......that's what we call an E3 winning trailer right there.

....maybe thats why sony is not going to E3 this year. they have managed to get insider info on pokemon switch and just went "nope...not even going to bother. nothing we can show will overshadow that." :P j/k.

but yeah games wise....i dont think its quite hit the highs of the wii but it certainly hasnt hit the lows either. it got pretty low on the wii. the switch has plenty of smaller games and quite a few big games to.

AAA multiplats...yeah. it is what it is. thats not going to change. it's better than it was on the wiiu but i think nintendo need to work with 3rd parties more on getting exclusive content on the switch if 3rd parties want better switch sales. if you want a service focused, mp driven platform or care more for bleeding edge tech and high production values then the switch is not the platform for you.

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#26 omegaMaster
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Think the Switch will just steady the ship really.

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#27  Edited By mandzilla  Moderator
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@KBFloYd: There's also Town and Daemon X Machina, two new IPs.

Plus Pikmin 4 is listed as being in development.

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#28 Speeny
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There's more to come. But, even though I love the Switch it is pretty hard for me to find games to play on the system, that's for sure.

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In less than two years I already got way more fun out of my Switch than my Ps4 so I’m already happy. Everything else that comes out will just be bonus and I have a feeling like there is a lot left to come out. I gotta catch up as I still have tons of games to play lol.

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There's a lot of shovel ware on the switch already but it's definitely not at the Wii shovel ware yet.

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@speedfreak48t5p said:

So much Nintendo hate in this thread.

You're surprised... how?

@i_p_daily said:

C'mon guys give solidcowbasic the answers he wants to hear, because the Switch outsold his precious PS4 in December and he needs reassurance that it will all be ok lol.

Sounds about right.

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@SolidGame_basic said:

This is more of a question about games. It seems like the Switch went from having a crap load of big titles at launch, to having a pretty mild 2018. And now, 2019 isn’t looking that great either. Am I rite, SW? Or am I missing something?

Butthurt much? Switch is doing fine, we may not get Metroid Prime 4 this year, but at least Gen 8 Pokemon will sell as well as Animal Crossing. Plus, there's more 3rd Party games. I don't care if they play better on PS4, I'm getting majority of them on my Switch due to having a much busier schedule.

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#33  Edited By Techhog89
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@jcrame10 said:

Yep, they blew their load in the first 2 years just like the Wii did:

Zelda Breath of the Wild

Super Mario Odyssey

Mario Kart 8 (a port)

Super Smash Bros Deluxe

They'll have some legs with the next-gen Pokemon game, open world Pokemon game that is supposedly coming, and Mario Kart 9. After those come out though I think it'll be dead in the water with no major AAA third party games coming to the system. No big titles for them so we will not see millions upon millions of software sales or significant amount of hardware being bought. Only a select few will be rushing to the stores to grab a Switch for Fire Emblem, Metroid, Animal Crossing, Star Fox or F-Zero.

Why do you keep saying that Pokemon will be open world? And Animal Crossing is still a lot bigger than you realize.

Also Melee isn't on Switch.

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#34 FireEmblem_Man  Online
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@jcrame10: Why do you hate Animal Crossing? Better yet, you're clueless how popular is the title

Sales link Source

Franchise total (as of March 31, 2017)32.86
2001GameCubeAnimal Crossing2.32 million[1]
1.68 million in US, 641,300 in Japan[2]
2005NDSAnimal Crossing: Wild World11.75 million[1](March 2015)
2008WiiAnimal Crossing: City Folk4.32 million [1](December 2013)
20133DSAnimal Crossing: New Leaf11.94 million [3] (September2018)
20153DSAnimal Crossing: Happy Home Designer3.32 million[4]
2015Wii UAnimal Crossing: amiibo Festival<<1 million
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Yep. Nintendo first party titles and dumping ground for cash in last gen ports and indies.

Also casuals is buying the thing.

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@PCgameruk said:

Well, games take years to produce especially with Nintendo that don't release games needing a number of patches. We could very well see MP4 and Bayonetta 3 this year.

We aren't seeing MP4 anytime soon, especially since Nintendo handed the game back to Retro to redo.

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@ajstyles said:

The Switch is trash and sales have peaked. It’s already on the downward trend and it suffers from massive game droughts with terrible online.

But hey, Sheep get to play a couple 30 Year old trash NES games every month....LOL

You're a parody character, right?

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@sakaixx said:

Yep. Nintendo first party titles and dumping ground for cash in last gen ports and indies.

Also casuals is buying the thing.

Black Ops 4 was the most downloaded PS4 game of 2018.

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#39 Techhog89
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@speeny said:

There's more to come. But, even though I love the Switch it is pretty hard for me to find games to play on the system, that's for sure.

Try playing some indie games.

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#40 FireEmblem_Man  Online
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@techhog89 said:
@ajstyles said:

The Switch is trash and sales have peaked. It’s already on the downward trend and it suffers from massive game droughts with terrible online.

But hey, Sheep get to play a couple 30 Year old trash NES games every month....LOL

You're a parody character, right?

He's that ban dodger Stuff, you know the guy that cheered for Nintendo to close down due to an earthquake in Japan from last year that caused them to delay the Nintendo Direct last August?

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#41 Techhog89
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@FireEmblem_Man said:
@techhog89 said:
@ajstyles said:

The Switch is trash and sales have peaked. It’s already on the downward trend and it suffers from massive game droughts with terrible online.

But hey, Sheep get to play a couple 30 Year old trash NES games every month....LOL

You're a parody character, right?

He's that ban dodger Stuff, you know the guy that cheered for Nintendo to close down due to an earthquake in Japan from last year that caused them to delay the Nintendo Direct last August?

Well **** him then.

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#42  Edited By jcrame10
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@FireEmblem_Man: I thought that only the 3DS verrsion sold millions and millions. Nice to see the others did too.

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#43 jcrame10
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@techhog89: that’s been talked about since the switch was revealed. Check this out:

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2018/10/a_zelda-like_open_world_pokemon_game_is_still_on_the_cards_says_junichi_masuda

Also where did I say anything about melee?

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@FireEmblem_Man: also why do you think I hate animal crossing? Lol I like all those franchises I listed. FE is my favorite and I just got Samus Returns on my 3DS yesterday. GameStop’s got it for $20 brand new

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@jcrame10: Is Samus Returns good? :O

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#46 Techhog89
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@jcrame10 said:

@techhog89: that’s been talked about since the switch was revealed. Check this out:

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2018/10/a_zelda-like_open_world_pokemon_game_is_still_on_the_cards_says_junichi_masuda

Also where did I say anything about melee?

That's not a confirmation of anything. He was just answering a question. You just want it to be a massive project so it'll be delayed 2-3 years.

You said Melee in your post, silly. The Smash game on Switch is Ultimate.

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@FireEmblem_Man: also why do you think I hate animal crossing? Lol I like all those franchises I listed. FE is my favorite and I just got Samus Returns on my 3DS yesterday. GameStop’s got it for $20 brand new

Then why are you trying to act like Animal Crossing is a niche/second-tier IP?

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@techhog89: Not a huge of them unfortunately.

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@mandzilla said:
@sakaixx said:

Yep. Nintendo first party titles and dumping ground for cash in last gen ports and indies.

Also casuals is buying the thing.

Black Ops 4 was the most downloaded PS4 game of 2018.

Yeah.

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@jcrame10 said:

@FireEmblem_Man: also why do you think I hate animal crossing? Lol I like all those franchises I listed. FE is my favorite and I just got Samus Returns on my 3DS yesterday. GameStop’s got it for $20 brand new

I'm not a big Animal Crossing fan neither, but I recognize that it's a success in handhelds and it sells. It's nowhere near niche status as you think.

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#50  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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Not sure how you compare the Switch to Wii?