I hear lots of arguments across the boards so lets funnel it into one post... is the wii-mote a gimmick are a new advance in gaming... why or why not? I have mixed emotions on the subject but i'm just not sure how I feel....
Yes, the Wiimote is a gimmick, but so are Hi-Def graphics, BluRay, online play, wirless controllers, the analog stick, rumble, and exclusive titles. They're ALL gimmicks. I just don't know where anyone got the idea that gimmicks are inherently bad.
I think it has some potentially great uses. Bowling is unbelievably fun, for example. I just hope developers use it to create some varied experiences.mattbbpl
agreed. if developers dont utilise the controls properly and continue to spit out ports with (in most cases) tacked on controls then the wii wont have to much of a lasting appeal on people. it looks like EA though are going in the right direction with that new boogie game...maybe...
I don't think people realize what gimmick means. Basically Mark Reign used the term to bash the Wii, and all of the sudden people start using it. If you all looked it up, you might be surprised at some of the definitions.
In my opinion all the systems next gen will use motion-sensor technology and the Wii will be thought of as the innovator in that field so no, I do not think it's a gimmick. With that said, since the Wii is basically the first (PS3 was actually first, but let's not even go there) to embrace this, it's not perfect. It's implementation is alittle rough around the edges, in terms of hardware and software. The hardware is obvious, in future generations motion-sensing will become more sophisticated. As far as software goes, I think many developers simply do not know how to make games for the Wii. By that I mean, that the wii's controls totally change your input and developers are so set on their ways that often times you find developers trying to conform the controls to the game. As time progresses I believe you'll start to see more developers conform their Games to the controls. This has happened on the DS. It started out just like the Wii, besides a couple of great first party games, most games were mini-game collections or bad ports that didn't take full advantage of the DS's touch screen. As time progressed games like Brain Age, Cooking Mama, and all the graphic adventures (i.e. Pheonix Wright, Hotel Dusk, etc.) started poppping up. Often times these games are the most popular on the system and it's because they are tailor made for the DS's unique input.
In my opinion all the systems next gen will use motion-sensor technology and the Wii will be thought of as the innovator in that field so no, I do not think it's a gimmick. With that said, since the Wii is basically the first (PS3 was actually first, but let's not even go there) to embrace this, it's not perfect. It's implementation is alittle rough around the edges, in terms of hardware and software. The hardware is obvious, in future generations motion-sensing will become more sophisticated. As far as software goes, I think many developers simply do not know how to make games for the Wii. By that I mean, that the wii's controls totally change your input and developers are so set on their ways that often times you find developers trying to conform the controls to the game. As time progresses I believe you'll start to see more developers conform their Games to the controls. This has happened on the DS. It started out just like the Wii, besides a couple of great first party games, most games were mini-game collections or bad ports that didn't take full advantage of the DS's touch screen. As time progressed games like Brain Age, Cooking Mama, and all the graphic adventures (i.e. Pheonix Wright, Hotel Dusk, etc.) started poppping up. Often times these games are the most popular on the system and it's because they are tailor made for the DS's unique input. Zerostatic0
definition of gimmick: an ingenious or novel device, scheme, or stratagem, esp. one designed to attract attention or increase appeal. sounds kinda like wii-mote.
[QUOTE="Zerostatic0"]In my opinion all the systems next gen will use motion-sensor technology and the Wii will be thought of as the innovator in that field so no, I do not think it's a gimmick. With that said, since the Wii is basically the first (PS3 was actually first, but let's not even go there) to embrace this, it's not perfect. It's implementation is alittle rough around the edges, in terms of hardware and software. The hardware is obvious, in future generations motion-sensing will become more sophisticated. As far as software goes, I think many developers simply do not know how to make games for the Wii. By that I mean, that the wii's controls totally change your input and developers are so set on their ways that often times you find developers trying to conform the controls to the game. As time progresses I believe you'll start to see more developers conform their Games to the controls. This has happened on the DS. It started out just like the Wii, besides a couple of great first party games, most games were mini-game collections or bad ports that didn't take full advantage of the DS's touch screen. As time progressed games like Brain Age, Cooking Mama, and all the graphic adventures (i.e. Pheonix Wright, Hotel Dusk, etc.) started poppping up. Often times these games are the most popular on the system and it's because they are tailor made for the DS's unique input. kingyoto
sounds good nice post
Its a great idea, but at this time it sucks. I had tp for gc and now for wii { I never beat it} the graphics are better on wii but swinging the remote for the sword is lame. Who really "swings it" I just snap my wrist. I hope in time it will pan out. I think motion sensing will stay and is the next step but the wii may not take it all the way there. I do applaud nin for trying something different. I am more board with my 360 atm.
definition of gimmick: an ingenious or novel device, scheme, or stratagem, esp. one designed to attract attention or increase appeal. sounds kinda like wii-mote.kingyoto
[QUOTE="kingyoto"]definition of gimmick: an ingenious or novel device, scheme, or stratagem, esp. one designed to attract attention or increase appeal. sounds kinda like wii-mote.skullkrusher13
[QUOTE="kingyoto"][QUOTE="Zerostatic0"]In my opinion all the systems next gen will use motion-sensor technology and the Wii will be thought of as the innovator in that field so no, I do not think it's a gimmick. With that said, since the Wii is basically the first (PS3 was actually first, but let's not even go there) to embrace this, it's not perfect. It's implementation is alittle rough around the edges, in terms of hardware and software. The hardware is obvious, in future generations motion-sensing will become more sophisticated. As far as software goes, I think many developers simply do not know how to make games for the Wii. By that I mean, that the wii's controls totally change your input and developers are so set on their ways that often times you find developers trying to conform the controls to the game. As time progresses I believe you'll start to see more developers conform their Games to the controls. This has happened on the DS. It started out just like the Wii, besides a couple of great first party games, most games were mini-game collections or bad ports that didn't take full advantage of the DS's touch screen. As time progressed games like Brain Age, Cooking Mama, and all the graphic adventures (i.e. Pheonix Wright, Hotel Dusk, etc.) started poppping up. Often times these games are the most popular on the system and it's because they are tailor made for the DS's unique input. supermanfarr
sounds good nice post
Its a great idea, but at this time it sucks. I had tp for gc and now for wii { I never beat it} the graphics are better on wii but swinging the remote for the sword is lame. Who really "swings it" I just snap my wrist. I hope in time it will pan out. I think motion sensing will stay and is the next step but the wii may not take it all the way there. I do applaud nin for trying something different. I am more board with my 360 atm.I definitely see where you're coming from. In fact, though I have a Wii and I love it, I wouldn't say it's the best system for everyone. Diehard gamers who love a lot of mature games and love to participate in online deathmatches and stuff like that, I'd definitely say to go with the 360. Even though the Wii will have it's fair share of games that appeal to die-hard gamers, I'm pretty sure a lot of the biggest hits on it will be more light-hearted titles like the new Sims game, Wii Sports, Brain Age and stuff like that. I personally was ok with that. I personally just do not have the time any more (I'm in graduate school and will soon be getting married) to devote to endless mounds of RPGS and FPSs. I actually like having something like Wii Sports where I can fit a couple of rounds of Tennis before I go to work and try improve my rating, or Trauma Center where I can put aside 7 minutes and try that operation that has stumped me all week. Sure, I still have the occasional afternoon off or free week-end where I can sit down and put in a couple of hours into Zelda (I finally beat it like 2 weeks ago), or Call of Duty 3 and in the future to games like Metroid Prime, No More Heroes, Resident Evil: UC but those hours are getting less and less common. Not to mention that now that I'm getting married I have to be mindful of my future wife, and thank god for Nintendo because I could never get her into videogames, I've been with her for 6 years and I could never hook her until along came Nintendo with the DS and the Wii. She's still not a serious gamer but I would label her as a casual and that makes me happy. Anyways, yeah the 360 is a quality system and it is great at being what we traditionally consider being a great video-game system. The Wii might not be great at what it does, but what it does is fresh, it's fun and its exciting and is probably the future of gaming.
[QUOTE="supermanfarr"][QUOTE="kingyoto"][QUOTE="Zerostatic0"]In my opinion all the systems next gen will use motion-sensor technology and the Wii will be thought of as the innovator in that field so no, I do not think it's a gimmick. With that said, since the Wii is basically the first (PS3 was actually first, but let's not even go there) to embrace this, it's not perfect. It's implementation is alittle rough around the edges, in terms of hardware and software. The hardware is obvious, in future generations motion-sensing will become more sophisticated. As far as software goes, I think many developers simply do not know how to make games for the Wii. By that I mean, that the wii's controls totally change your input and developers are so set on their ways that often times you find developers trying to conform the controls to the game. As time progresses I believe you'll start to see more developers conform their Games to the controls. This has happened on the DS. It started out just like the Wii, besides a couple of great first party games, most games were mini-game collections or bad ports that didn't take full advantage of the DS's touch screen. As time progressed games like Brain Age, Cooking Mama, and all the graphic adventures (i.e. Pheonix Wright, Hotel Dusk, etc.) started poppping up. Often times these games are the most popular on the system and it's because they are tailor made for the DS's unique input. Zerostatic0
sounds good nice post
Its a great idea, but at this time it sucks. I had tp for gc and now for wii { I never beat it} the graphics are better on wii but swinging the remote for the sword is lame. Who really "swings it" I just snap my wrist. I hope in time it will pan out. I think motion sensing will stay and is the next step but the wii may not take it all the way there. I do applaud nin for trying something different. I am more board with my 360 atm.I definitely see where you're coming from. In fact, though I have a Wii and I love it, I wouldn't say it's the best system for everyone. Diehard gamers who love a lot of mature games and love to participate in online deathmatches and stuff like that, I'd definitely say to go with the 360. Even though the Wii will have it's fair share of games that appeal to die-hard gamers, I'm pretty sure a lot of the biggest hits on it will be more light-hearted titles like the new Sims game, Wii Sports, Brain Age and stuff like that. I personally was ok with that. I personally just do not have the time any more (I'm in graduate school and will soon be getting married) to devote to endless mounds of RPGS and FPSs. I actually like having something like Wii Sports where I can fit a couple of rounds of Tennis before I go to work and try improve my rating, or Trauma Center where I can put aside 7 minutes and try that operation that has stumped me all week. Sure, I still have the occasional afternoon off or free week-end where I can sit down and put in a couple of hours into Zelda (I finally beat it like 2 weeks ago), or Call of Duty 3 and in the future to games like Metroid Prime, No More Heroes, Resident Evil: UC but those hours are getting less and less common. Not to mention that now that I'm getting married I have to be mindful of my future wife, and thank god for Nintendo because I could never get her into videogames, I've been with her for 6 years and I could never hook her until along came Nintendo with the DS and the Wii. She's still not a serious gamer but I would label her as a casual and that makes me happy. Anyways, yeah the 360 is a quality system and it is great at being what we traditionally consider being a great video-game system. The Wii might not be great at what it does, but what it does is fresh, it's fun and its exciting and is probably the future of gaming. wii has strong appeal to many people
I don't think people realize what gimmick means. Basically Mark Reign used the term to bash the Wii, and all of the sudden people start using it. If you all looked it up, you might be surprised at some of the definitions.her0_54
I hear lots of arguments across the boards so lets funnel it into one post... is the wii-mote a gimmick are a new advance in gaming... why or why not? I have mixed emotions on the subject but i'm just not sure how I feel....kingyoto
No, I was reading an article about how the elderly are playing it, its not a gimmick
[QUOTE="kingyoto"]I hear lots of arguments across the boards so lets funnel it into one post... is the wii-mote a gimmick are a new advance in gaming... why or why not? I have mixed emotions on the subject but i'm just not sure how I feel....AvinashTyagi
No, I was reading an article about how the elderly are playing it, its not a gimmick What? why is it not a gimmick because elderly play it.
I don't think people realize what gimmick means. Basically Mark Reign used the term to bash the Wii, and all of the sudden people start using it. If you all looked it up, you might be surprised at some of the definitions.her0_54
That's true, but it even goes beyond that, I think a better term is revolution
[QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="kingyoto"]I hear lots of arguments across the boards so lets funnel it into one post... is the wii-mote a gimmick are a new advance in gaming... why or why not? I have mixed emotions on the subject but i'm just not sure how I feel....kingyoto
No, I was reading an article about how the elderly are playing it, its not a gimmick What? why is it not a gimmick because elderly play it. No that's a revolution, you've changed the nature of the game, like the DS did for Handhelds the Wii is doing for Consoles
[QUOTE="her0_54"]I don't think people realize what gimmick means. Basically Mark Reign used the term to bash the Wii, and all of the sudden people start using it. If you all looked it up, you might be surprised at some of the definitions.wavebrid
By that definition you gave kingyoto, yes, the wii-mote is a gimmick, but apparently, so are a bunch of other things I would have never guessed in video games lol
Yes, the Wiimote is a gimmick, but so are Hi-Def graphics, BluRay, online play, wirless controllers, the analog stick, rumble, and exclusive titles. They're ALL gimmicks. I just don't know where anyone got the idea that gimmicks are inherently bad.MaxxxReebo
Depends on the definition you use. 1. A device employed to cheat, deceive, or trick, especially a mechanism for the secret and dishonest control of gambling apparatus. 2. An innovative or unusual mechanical contrivance; a gadget. So I guess it is and isn't a gimmick. The problems we've seen so far will most likely clear up soon since the developers now have had a little more time with the dev kits. We've seen rush jobs so far, be it because they are lazy or have money constraints. As of right now I don't find the Wii appealing at all but there is a good possibility that I'll change my mind in a few months.
[QUOTE="MaxxxReebo"]Yes, the Wiimote is a gimmick, but so are Hi-Def graphics, BluRay, online play, wirless controllers, the analog stick, rumble, and exclusive titles. They're ALL gimmicks. I just don't know where anyone got the idea that gimmicks are inherently bad.Ibacai
Depends on the definition you use. 1. A device employed to cheat, deceive, or trick, especially a mechanism for the secret and dishonest control of gambling apparatus. 2. An innovative or unusual mechanical contrivance; a gadget. So I guess it is and isn't a gimmick. The problems we've seen so far will most likely clear up soon since the developers now have had a little more time with the dev kits. We've seen rush jobs so far, be it because they are lazy or have money constraints. As of right now I don't find the Wii appealing at all but there is a good possibility that I'll change my mind in a few months.
If you're talking about the VALIDITY of the Wiimote, beyond wether it's "gimmicky" or not, well... I think Ninty has created a very wonderful blank canvas. If a developer puts the time, effort, and imagination into a Wii title, it will be brilliant and wonderful. But, if they only half-ass the game, that's EXACTLY what you'll get... a half-assed games with half-assed controls. Games on Wii will prove to be exactly what the developers make of them.
[QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="MaxxxReebo"]Yes, the Wiimote is a gimmick, but so are Hi-Def graphics, BluRay, online play, wirless controllers, the analog stick, rumble, and exclusive titles. They're ALL gimmicks. I just don't know where anyone got the idea that gimmicks are inherently bad.MaxxxReebo
Depends on the definition you use. 1. A device employed to cheat, deceive, or trick, especially a mechanism for the secret and dishonest control of gambling apparatus. 2. An innovative or unusual mechanical contrivance; a gadget. So I guess it is and isn't a gimmick. The problems we've seen so far will most likely clear up soon since the developers now have had a little more time with the dev kits. We've seen rush jobs so far, be it because they are lazy or have money constraints. As of right now I don't find the Wii appealing at all but there is a good possibility that I'll change my mind in a few months.
If you're talking about the VALIDITY of the Wiimote, beyond wether it's "gimmicky" or not, well... I think Ninty has created a very wonderful blank canvas. If a developer puts the time, effort, and imagination into a Wii title, it will be brilliant and wonderful. But, if they only half-ass the game, that's EXACTLY what you'll get... a half-assed games with half-assed controls. Games on Wii will prove to be exactly what the developers make of them.
[QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="MaxxxReebo"]Yes, the Wiimote is a gimmick, but so are Hi-Def graphics, BluRay, online play, wirless controllers, the analog stick, rumble, and exclusive titles. They're ALL gimmicks. I just don't know where anyone got the idea that gimmicks are inherently bad.Ibacai
Depends on the definition you use. 1. A device employed to cheat, deceive, or trick, especially a mechanism for the secret and dishonest control of gambling apparatus. 2. An innovative or unusual mechanical contrivance; a gadget. So I guess it is and isn't a gimmick. The problems we've seen so far will most likely clear up soon since the developers now have had a little more time with the dev kits. We've seen rush jobs so far, be it because they are lazy or have money constraints. As of right now I don't find the Wii appealing at all but there is a good possibility that I'll change my mind in a few months.
If you're talking about the VALIDITY of the Wiimote, beyond wether it's "gimmicky" or not, well... I think Ninty has created a very wonderful blank canvas. If a developer puts the time, effort, and imagination into a Wii title, it will be brilliant and wonderful. But, if they only half-ass the game, that's EXACTLY what you'll get... a half-assed games with half-assed controls. Games on Wii will prove to be exactly what the developers make of them.
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