Is the Wii nearly finished? (in terms of upcoming games)

Well anyway, here's the future games I'm looking out for on my 360:

Shooters:
Brink
Crysis 2
Homefront
Fear 3
Bulletstorm
Max Payne 3
Rage
Gears 3
Ace Combat 7

Hybrid Shooters:
Bioshock Infinite
Dead Space 2
Deus Ex 3
Mass Effect 3

RPG:
Dragon Age 2
(Would have liked to put Mass Effect 3 here but I would get ripped apart :))

Fighters:
Street Fighter X Tekken / Tekken X Street Fighter
Marvel Vs Capcom 3
Mortal Kombat Reboot

Racer:
Test Drive Unlimited 2
Forza 4
Dirt 3

Action/Adventure/Other:
Portal 2
Metal Gear Rising
Batman Arkham City
Devil May Cry Reboot
Tomb Raider Reboot
Assassin's Creed 3
Hitman 5
LA Noire
Shadows Of The Damned
Project Kingdoms

The Grinder

Lego Games

De Blob 2

Unannounced but possible:
GTA 5
Half Life Episode 3 / Half Life 3
Elder Scrolls 5 / Bethesda's next game
New (non Kinect) Rareware games


The really obvious things that leap out at you are: tons of shooters, tons of sequels, and tons of multiplats. Its ok, I'm aware of these issues, no need to go mental at me :) My only point is, lots of dev support and great games, going from early 2011 up to 2012. But what about Wii? Future games I'm looking out for on Wii are:

Announced:
Zelda Skyward Sword
Conduit 2
Last Story (if localised)
Xenoblade (if localised)
Dragon Quest X

The Grinder

Lego Games

De Blob 2

Trackmania

Lost In Shadow

Earth Seeker (if localised)

Unannounced but possible:
Pikmin 3 (confirmed, but not necessarily for Wii)
F Zero / Starfox / Other IP?

Now that's a much smaller list, relying almost entirely on Ninty. Not being a fanboy, actually been searching release dates for 2011 and found not much else for Wii. Now, the REALLY scary thing (for a Wii owner who cares not for handhelds, ake me!) is that the 3DS is out next year. My big worry is, Zelda is Wii's last hurrah from Ninty as they go full on to support 3DS and possibly develop games for a new console. 3rd parties follow suit and flock to 3DS, o no :cry:

So, is this scenario likely in your view? Is the Wii winding down, or is there a whole slate of 1st and 3rd party games still to come?

Its pretty much winding down I would think. It'll be mostly 1st party sprinkles until they announce their new system.

Nintendo doesn't announce its games unless it's near-release. Look at this year. We didn't know Metroid Other M, Kirby, DKCR, etc were coming this year at all last year. For like Zelda and SMG2, yes sure it was/is going to be released the next year it was announced, but for an entry of a flagship franchise, less than a year gap between the announcement and the release is pretty short.IAmNot_fun

We knew about other m. But really, even if Nintendo doesn't do that it wouldn't explain the complete lack of third party titles announced now would it?

Well there's always Project H.A.M.M.E.R..

Wii is made by nintendo. over the next 3 years you will get

* sequel to Mario Party
* sequel to Mario World

* sequel to Mario Galaxy

* Sequel to Metroid Other M

* Sequel to Mario Kart

* New Zelda sequel

* Possible Zelda remake

* Donkey Kong sequel

* New Super Mario Bros Wii sequel

* A new Mario game

* Mario Smash Bros sequel

Wii is made by nintendo. over the next 3 years you will get

* sequel to Mario Party
* sequel to Mario World

* sequel to Mario Galaxy

* Sequel to Metroid Other M

* Sequel to Mario Kart

* New Zelda sequel

* Possible Zelda remake

* Donkey Kong sequel

* New Super Mario Bros Wii sequel

* A new Mario game

* Mario Smash Bros sequel

hd5870corei7

Its pretty much winding down I would think. It'll be mostly 1st party sprinkles until they announce their new system.

ActicEdge

Thats what I'm thinking.

The only game for the Wii I'm gonna get so far next year is zelda compared to the close to 10 wii games I got this year.

Plus 3DS!

Obviously theirs a little bit of a lack of 1st party support for various reasons (3ds, maybe a new system coming) and this is where the wiis super weak 3rd party support is really gonna hurt alot!

Wii is made by nintendo. over the next 3 years you will get

* sequel to Mario Party
* sequel to Mario World

* sequel to Mario Galaxy

* Sequel to Metroid Other M

* Sequel to Mario Kart

* New Zelda sequel

* Possible Zelda remake

* Donkey Kong sequel

* New Super Mario Bros Wii sequel

* A new Mario game

* Mario Smash Bros sequel

hd5870corei7

Lol, the funny part is this list is probably dead on for the most part, though their not gonna be games for the Wii.

[QUOTE="IAmNot_fun"]Nintendo doesn't announce its games unless it's near-release. Look at this year. We didn't know Metroid Other M, Kirby, DKCR, etc were coming this year at all last year. For like Zelda and SMG2, yes sure it was/is going to be released the next year it was announced, but for an entry of a flagship franchise, less than a year gap between the announcement and the release is pretty short.ActicEdge

We knew about other m. But really, even if Nintendo doesn't do that it wouldn't explain the complete lack of third party titles announced now would it?

Well Nintendo is pretty tight lipped on future releases we usually don't know of releases coming in 12-18 months, more like 3-6 months. For Excitebots we only knew of the title for like a month before release. Devil-Itachi

Well there's always Project H.A.M.M.E.R..

Yangire

With a worldwide userbase approaching 80 Million and growing, not to mention an E3 price drop to either 149 or 129, why do you think that the games will stop? If anything I see more 3rd party titles coming. The Wii will have a longer lifespan than the 360.

Add Dragon Quest X to your list of Wii games.

With a worldwide userbase approaching 80 Million and growing, not to mention an E3 price drop to either 149 or 129, why do you think that the games will stop? If anything I see more 3rd party titles coming. The Wii will have a longer lifespan than the 360.

thomasward00

Add Dragon Quest X to your list of Wii games.

Bigboi500

[QUOTE="thomasward00"]

With a worldwide userbase approaching 80 Million and growing, not to mention an E3 price drop to either 149 or 129, why do you think that the games will stop? If anything I see more 3rd party titles coming. The Wii will have a longer lifespan than the 360.

locopatho

Add Dragon Quest X to your list of Wii games.

Bigboi500

Nintendo will never have as much 3rd party as Sony or Microsoft, they have to compete with Nintendo titles and no one can do that....

If you are looking for dozens and dozens of mediocre 3rd party titles then Nintendo home consoles just aren't for you.

[QUOTE="thomasward00"]

With a worldwide userbase approaching 80 Million and growing, not to mention an E3 price drop to either 149 or 129, why do you think that the games will stop? If anything I see more 3rd party titles coming. The Wii will have a longer lifespan than the 360.

locopatho

Add Dragon Quest X to your list of Wii games.

Bigboi500

I just bought a red Wii for a family Christmas present, we simply bought it for Nintendo games and a few unique japanese games, we have PC's for MMO's RTS and FPS.

If all that Nintendo release are 5 great games a year, i'm just fine with that.

im confused on the whole wii 3rd party thing.

it was suppose to be easier for third party to make games for the wii but now since they invested so much on hd its kinda too late to go back(which makes sense).

But im hearing all of a sudden nobody wants to make 3rd party wii games because they dont want to compete with nintendo on their own console....

what im getting out of this is 3rd parties are babies they rather get quarterly loss every year then to get a nice cash in for a cheap develping system.

when nintendo goes hd nex gen i want to see whats going to happen then

Nintendo will never have as much 3rd party as Sony or Microsoft, they have to compete with Nintendo titles and no one can do that....

If you are looking for dozens and dozens of mediocre 3rd party titles then Nintendo home consoles just aren't for you.

thomasward00

Did you just call the likes of Mass Effect, Half Life, Portal, Deus Ex, Hitman, Bioshock, and the GODDAM BATMAN mediocre!?

[QUOTE="thomasward00"]

Nintendo will never have as much 3rd party as Sony or Microsoft, they have to compete with Nintendo titles and no one can do that....

If you are looking for dozens and dozens of mediocre 3rd party titles then Nintendo home consoles just aren't for you.

locopatho

Did you just call the likes of Mass Effect, Half Life, Portal, Deus Ex, Hitman, Bioshock, and the GODDAM BATMAN mediocre!?

Every one of those games will also be on the PC, and will perform much better and have better controls. Not to mention the PC versions will also have user added mods and content.

The 360 and PS3 are "PC Light"

[QUOTE="thomasward00"]

Nintendo will never have as much 3rd party as Sony or Microsoft, they have to compete with Nintendo titles and no one can do that....

If you are looking for dozens and dozens of mediocre 3rd party titles then Nintendo home consoles just aren't for you.

locopatho

Did you just call the likes of Mass Effect, Half Life, Portal, Deus Ex, Hitman, Bioshock, and the GODDAM BATMAN mediocre!?

Also what self respecting ADULT gamers would play Half Life, Portal, Bioshock or Deus Ex without keyboard and mouse control? It is blasphemy to play a FPS on a console.

Do yourself a favor kid and build a modest PC

Every one of those games will also be on the PC, and will perform much better and have better controls. Not to mention the PC versions will also have user added mods and content.

The 360 and PS3 are "PC Light"

thomasward00

O here we go. Change the goalposts, we went from "they are mediocre" to "they are multiplat" :roll:

I'm talking about upcoming games and dev support in the real world, for people like me who will have tons to get on 360, slim pickings on Wii.

If you wanna go by SW "rules" and "winners", find another thread. This one isn't about that.

Seriously, you should wait until E3 for the full list, as Nintendo plays their cards close to their chest. So you won't get an extensive list like the other consoles until we get much into the year of 2011.

Also what self respecting ADULT gamers would play Half Life, Portal, Bioshock or Deus Ex without keyboard and mouse control? It is blasphemy to play a FPS on a console.

Do yourself a favor kid and build a modest PC

thomasward00

And an age insult :lol:

The complete SW package in one guy!

Seriously, you should wait until E3 for the full list, as Nintendo plays their cards close to their chest. So you won't get an extensive list like the other consoles until we get much into the year of 2011.

trugs26

[QUOTE="trugs26"]

Seriously, you should wait until E3 for the full list, as Nintendo plays their cards close to their chest. So you won't get an extensive list like the other consoles until we get much into the year of 2011.

locopatho

They always have the vitality sensor that has been virtually unheard of since E3, we'll see where that goes :P

[QUOTE="trugs26"]

Seriously, you should wait until E3 for the full list, as Nintendo plays their cards close to their chest. So you won't get an extensive list like the other consoles until we get much into the year of 2011.

locopatho

[QUOTE="thomasward00"]

Every one of those games will also be on the PC, and will perform much better and have better controls. Not to mention the PC versions will also have user added mods and content.

The 360 and PS3 are "PC Light"

locopatho

O here we go. Change the goalposts, we went from "they are mediocre" to "they are multiplat" :roll:

I'm talking about upcoming games and dev support in the real world, for people like me who will have tons to get on 360, slim pickings on Wii.

If you wanna go by SW "rules" and "winners", find another thread. This one isn't about that.

It does change everything, the FPS genre is cut down and dumbed down on consoles, those are games that are simply meant for the PC. Only kids and poor or non technically able adults attempt to play those on a console.

There are console game genre's and there are PC genre's and rarely can the two mix.

For example

Platformers= Console

Racing= Console

Fighting= Console

MMO= PC

FPS= PC

RTS= PC

[QUOTE="thomasward00"]

Every one of those games will also be on the PC, and will perform much better and have better controls. Not to mention the PC versions will also have user added mods and content.

The 360 and PS3 are "PC Light"

locopatho

O here we go. Change the goalposts, we went from "they are mediocre" to "they are multiplat" :roll:

I'm talking about upcoming games and dev support in the real world, for people like me who will have tons to get on 360, slim pickings on Wii.

If you wanna go by SW "rules" and "winners", find another thread. This one isn't about that.

Why do you think that Microsoft won't allow 360 and PC players go against each other in Black OPS? They are the very same Microsoft servers....

The Console players would get creamed every single time, PC control in FPS is 1000X better than any console controller setup.

[QUOTE="locopatho"]

[QUOTE="thomasward00"]

Every one of those games will also be on the PC, and will perform much better and have better controls. Not to mention the PC versions will also have user added mods and content.

The 360 and PS3 are "PC Light"

thomasward00

O here we go. Change the goalposts, we went from "they are mediocre" to "they are multiplat" :roll:

I'm talking about upcoming games and dev support in the real world, for people like me who will have tons to get on 360, slim pickings on Wii.

If you wanna go by SW "rules" and "winners", find another thread. This one isn't about that.

It does change everything, the FPS genre is cut down and dumbed down on consoles, those are games that are simply meant for the PC. Only kids and poor or non technically able adults attempt to play those on a console.

There are console game genre's and there are PC genre's and rarely can the two mix.

For example

Platformers= Console

Racing= Console

Fighting= Console

MMO= PC

FPS= PC

RTS= PC

Really, this is inaccurate. Where you choose to play your games is irrelevant, you don't get to insult other peoples preferences just because you don't like the way those titles are represented on consoles. And honestly, why is everything in SW about asserting your dominance of someoneelse, why can't it ever just be about the love of the games?

[QUOTE="locopatho"]

[QUOTE="thomasward00"]

Every one of those games will also be on the PC, and will perform much better and have better controls. Not to mention the PC versions will also have user added mods and content.

The 360 and PS3 are "PC Light"

thomasward00

O here we go. Change the goalposts, we went from "they are mediocre" to "they are multiplat" :roll:

I'm talking about upcoming games and dev support in the real world, for people like me who will have tons to get on 360, slim pickings on Wii.

If you wanna go by SW "rules" and "winners", find another thread. This one isn't about that.

Why do you think that Microsoft won't allow 360 and PC players go against each other in Black OPS? They are the very same Microsoft servers....

The Console players would get creamed every single time, PC control in FPS is 1000X better than any console controller setup.

Not microsoft, Treyarch and Activision and the reason is that no one gives a crap about that feature so why waste money coding for it when its probably going to reduce online quality vs make it better?

[QUOTE="thomasward00"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"]

O here we go. Change the goalposts, we went from "they are mediocre" to "they are multiplat" :roll:

I'm talking about upcoming games and dev support in the real world, for people like me who will have tons to get on 360, slim pickings on Wii.

If you wanna go by SW "rules" and "winners", find another thread. This one isn't about that.

ActicEdge

It does change everything, the FPS genre is cut down and dumbed down on consoles, those are games that are simply meant for the PC. Only kids and poor or non technically able adults attempt to play those on a console.

There are console game genre's and there are PC genre's and rarely can the two mix.

For example

Platformers= Console

Racing= Console

Fighting= Console

MMO= PC

FPS= PC

RTS= PC

Really, this is inaccurate. Where you choose to play your games is irrelevant, you don't get to insult other peoples preferences just because you don't like the way those titles are represented on consoles. And honestly, why is everything in SW about asserting your dominance of someoneelse, why can't it ever just be about the love of the games?

Why would someone choose to play the same game with an inferior experience? Poor controls and no user mods, that is the beauty of PC gaming. Just as I love gaming consoles for platformers, racing games etc... it is the best way to experience them.

[QUOTE="thomasward00"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"]

O here we go. Change the goalposts, we went from "they are mediocre" to "they are multiplat" :roll:

I'm talking about upcoming games and dev support in the real world, for people like me who will have tons to get on 360, slim pickings on Wii.

If you wanna go by SW "rules" and "winners", find another thread. This one isn't about that.

ActicEdge

Why do you think that Microsoft won't allow 360 and PC players go against each other in Black OPS? They are the very same Microsoft servers....

The Console players would get creamed every single time, PC control in FPS is 1000X better than any console controller setup.

Not microsoft, Treyarch and Activision and the reason is that no one gives a crap about that feature so why waste money coding for it when its probably going to reduce online quality vs make it better?

Actually the 360 IS a Windows PC, the Xbox version is just a bit cut down graphically, there is actually no coding difference, at the code level it is basically the very same game, it is done in every multiplatform FPS because PC gamers would always beat the console gamers, leading to frustration.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="thomasward00"]

Why do you think that Microsoft won't allow 360 and PC players go against each other in Black OPS? They are the very same Microsoft servers....

The Console players would get creamed every single time, PC control in FPS is 1000X better than any console controller setup.

thomasward00

Not microsoft, Treyarch and Activision and the reason is that no one gives a crap about that feature so why waste money coding for it when its probably going to reduce online quality vs make it better?

Actually the 360 IS a Windows PC, the Xbox version is just a bit cut down graphically, there is actually no coding difference, at the code level it is basically the very same game, it is done in every multiplatform FPS because PC gamers would always beat the console gamers, leading to frustration.

Coding across multiple platforms requires effort. It is not the exact same for every game, similar architecture doesn't all of a sudden make multisystem coding easy. I don't buy that but we can easily ask Teuf since he would know. It has nothing to do with winning or losing, if what you are saying is true (which I doubt) it is as easy as having ingame setting that only allow same system play. You're just making things up, there is no reason to believe what you're saying is true over believing they do what will make the most money.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="thomasward00"]

It does change everything, the FPS genre is cut down and dumbed down on consoles, those are games that are simply meant for the PC. Only kids and poor or non technically able adults attempt to play those on a console.

There are console game genre's and there are PC genre's and rarely can the two mix.

For example

Platformers= Console

Racing= Console

Fighting= Console

MMO= PC

FPS= PC

RTS= PC

thomasward00

Really, this is inaccurate. Where you choose to play your games is irrelevant, you don't get to insult other peoples preferences just because you don't like the way those titles are represented on consoles. And honestly, why is everything in SW about asserting your dominance of someoneelse, why can't it ever just be about the love of the games?

Why would someone choose to play the same game with an inferior experience? Poor controls and no user mods, that is the beauty of PC gaming. Just as I love gaming consoles for platformers, racing games etc... it is the best way to experience them.

Because controls is a preference thing, its not something you get to define for everyone else. there is also the simple idea of ease of use, split screen, taking into account the taste of friends, being fine with no mods, not wanting to build a PC among other things. There is no "best" because this is not an objective issue. Its an issue of preference so please stop treating it like it isn't.

[QUOTE="thomasward00"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Not microsoft, Treyarch and Activision and the reason is that no one gives a crap about that feature so why waste money coding for it when its probably going to reduce online quality vs make it better?

ActicEdge

Actually the 360 IS a Windows PC, the Xbox version is just a bit cut down graphically, there is actually no coding difference, at the code level it is basically the very same game, it is done in every multiplatform FPS because PC gamers would always beat the console gamers, leading to frustration.

Coding across multiple platforms requires effort. It is not the exact same for every game, similar architecture doesn't all of a sudden make multisystem coding easy. I don't buy that but we can easily ask Teuf since he would know. It has nothing to do with winning or losing, if what you are saying is true (which I doubt) it is as easy as having ingame setting that only allow same system play. You're just making things up, there is no reason to believe what you're saying is true over believing they do what will make the most money.

What? How old are you?

The Xbox 360 IS a PC, low end mind you, the network stack on the 360 and Windows is the SAME....

What am I making Up? A technical fact? Both the 360 and PC's are X86, the very SAME architecture.

Why is it bad if nintendo shifts it's support to the 3DS?

I mean it's almost as powerful as the wii AND it's already getting better third party support than the wii ever did.

I know some people will go "lol handhelds" but let's be realistic. The 3DS look awesome.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="thomasward00"]

Actually the 360 IS a Windows PC, the Xbox version is just a bit cut down graphically, there is actually no coding difference, at the code level it is basically the very same game, it is done in every multiplatform FPS because PC gamers would always beat the console gamers, leading to frustration.

thomasward00

Coding across multiple platforms requires effort. It is not the exact same for every game, similar architecture doesn't all of a sudden make multisystem coding easy. I don't buy that but we can easily ask Teuf since he would know. It has nothing to do with winning or losing, if what you are saying is true (which I doubt) it is as easy as having ingame setting that only allow same system play. You're just making things up, there is no reason to believe what you're saying is true over believing they do what will make the most money.

What? How old are you?

The Xbox 360 IS a PC, low end mind you, the network stack on the 360 and Windows is the SAME....

What am I making Up? A technical fact? Both the 360 and PC's are X86, the very SAME architecture.

Asking my age? Really? This is when I stop debating, this is a waste of my time.

wii should get the tomb raider reboot.... it got anniversary and underworld.

[QUOTE="thomasward00"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Really, this is inaccurate. Where you choose to play your games is irrelevant, you don't get to insult other peoples preferences just because you don't like the way those titles are represented on consoles. And honestly, why is everything in SW about asserting your dominance of someoneelse, why can't it ever just be about the love of the games?

ActicEdge

Why would someone choose to play the same game with an inferior experience? Poor controls and no user mods, that is the beauty of PC gaming. Just as I love gaming consoles for platformers, racing games etc... it is the best way to experience them.

Because controls is a preference thing, its not something you get to define for everyone else. there is also the simple idea of ease of use, split screen, taking into account the taste of friends, being fine with no mods, not wanting to build a PC among other things. There is no "best" because this is not an objective issue. Its an issue of preference so please stop treating it like it isn't.

I agree that everyone has the right to play a game on whatever they want, kids and most non technical adults could get frustrated with the sometimes complexity of PC gaming, it's much easier and cheaper now though.

Although I see no point in a console FPS, some folks have never experienced PC gaming on the high end, so they never even know what they are missing.

But in todays world a modest gaming rig costs about 600 to build, so it is getting much cheaper.

It's been finished for a year or two.

[QUOTE="thomasward00"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Coding across multiple platforms requires effort. It is not the exact same for every game, similar architecture doesn't all of a sudden make multisystem coding easy. I don't buy that but we can easily ask Teuf since he would know. It has nothing to do with winning or losing, if what you are saying is true (which I doubt) it is as easy as having ingame setting that only allow same system play. You're just making things up, there is no reason to believe what you're saying is true over believing they do what will make the most money.

ActicEdge

Yes it is time to stop, you are a kid and simply need to grow up, there is more to gaming than just consoles.

What? How old are you?

The Xbox 360 IS a PC, low end mind you, the network stack on the 360 and Windows is the SAME....

What am I making Up? A technical fact? Both the 360 and PC's are X86, the very SAME architecture.

Asking my age? Really? This is when I stop debating, this is a waste of my time.

It's been finished for a year or two.

StealthMonkey4

huh?

It's been finished for a year or two.

StealthMonkey4

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="thomasward00"]

What? How old are you?

The Xbox 360 IS a PC, low end mind you, the network stack on the 360 and Windows is the SAME....

What am I making Up? A technical fact? Both the 360 and PC's are X86, the very SAME architecture.

thomasward00

Asking my age? Really? This is when I stop debating, this is a waste of my time.

Yes it is time to stop, you are a kid and simply need to grow up, there is more to gaming than just consoles.

Funny, my age is irrelevant to the discussion. I am not insecure about my age, I don't need to pretend. I however don't see the point in arguing with someone who turns to insulting the person in a discussion instead of sticking to the issue. That's a waste of my time. Oh and the statement grow up is really misleading, if you think I'm a kid shouldn't I act my age instead of trying to act older? Also, look where I am playing black ops.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="thomasward00"]

Yes it is time to stop, you are a kid and simply need to grow up, there is more to gaming than just consoles.

What? How old are you?

The Xbox 360 IS a PC, low end mind you, the network stack on the 360 and Windows is the SAME....

What am I making Up? A technical fact? Both the 360 and PC's are X86, the very SAME architecture.

thomasward00

Asking my age? Really? This is when I stop debating, this is a waste of my time.

I really can't stand PC gamers like you, with your elitist attitude. Some like gaming on consoles over PC. Deal with it.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="thomasward00"]

Why would someone choose to play the same game with an inferior experience? Poor controls and no user mods, that is the beauty of PC gaming. Just as I love gaming consoles for platformers, racing games etc... it is the best way to experience them.

thomasward00

Because controls is a preference thing, its not something you get to define for everyone else. there is also the simple idea of ease of use, split screen, taking into account the taste of friends, being fine with no mods, not wanting to build a PC among other things. There is no "best" because this is not an objective issue. Its an issue of preference so please stop treating it like it isn't.

I agree that everyone has the right to play a game on whatever they want, kids and most non technical adults could get frustrated with the sometimes complexity of PC gaming, it's much easier and cheaper now though.

Although I see no point in a console FPS, some folks have never experienced PC gaming on the high end, so they never even know what they are missing.

But in todays world a modest gaming rig costs about 600 to build, so it is getting much cheaper.

I don't see why there has to be a "point" besides liking it better. Why are you asking for preference to be justified. I like a controller more than a mouse and keyboard and I like splitscreen. Why does that have to be justified

[QUOTE="thomasward00"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Because controls is a preference thing, its not something you get to define for everyone else. there is also the simple idea of ease of use, split screen, taking into account the taste of friends, being fine with no mods, not wanting to build a PC among other things. There is no "best" because this is not an objective issue. Its an issue of preference so please stop treating it like it isn't.

ActicEdge

I agree that everyone has the right to play a game on whatever they want, kids and most non technical adults could get frustrated with the sometimes complexity of PC gaming, it's much easier and cheaper now though.

Although I see no point in a console FPS, some folks have never experienced PC gaming on the high end, so they never even know what they are missing.

But in todays world a modest gaming rig costs about 600 to build, so it is getting much cheaper.

I don't see why there has to be a "point" besides liking it better. Why are you asking for preference to be justified. I like a controller more than a mouse and keyboard and I like splitscreen. Why does that have to be justified

yea..keyboards are horrible to play games...