Is the Witcher actually a pc game?

My freinds: this is something rather perturbing both emotionally, spiritually and mentally. As a series, "The Witcher" has been heralded by CD Project as well as (apparently) pc gamers as a godsend of classic RPG;s

However, a certain paradox has happemed that could arguably be called "self imposed" hypocrisy.

For example: if we cast our minds back to the Witcher 2 video, showing off footage, CDP slipped in a message, aimed towards people bad mouthing pc gaming.

However, upon playing the Witcher 2, it played absolutely nothing like a pc game. It featured console like quick time events asking for button promps, repeated "cinematic tapping" and rather awkward third person wall leaning sections akin to Metal Gear Solid.

The combat itself, was basically fable.

The Witcher 3 appears to be gunning for Skyrims pot of money (supposedly) changing to an open world game. Demonstrations have been done on a control pad and from what we can see, the combat appears to be an even more sped up Witcher 2 system, closer to hack in slack console games such as DMC.

Am I the only fellow who has the clarity, foresight and in general, courage to see the massive hypocrisy at play?

For example: when the Dragon Age changed design, becoming a more hack and slash game, using simplified dialogue systems and simplstic smaller levels, it was shredded apart by pc gamers.

Yet this, amazingly, seems to go unchallanged, as if sweet honey words have blinded them.

So I ask the people, is the witcher series more of a console series or a pc series?

Witcher 1 and 2 were PC games. Witcher 3... Will have to wait and see. I know this is another CDPR bashing thread by you but still... It's strange that you complain about Witcher series being console centric, yet you say that Dark Souls plays like a PC game which is terrible on mouse keyboard, doesn't have PC UI and game becomes unbalanced at 60fps. Just because a game is cinematic, doesn't mean it's console game. There were a lot of cinematic games for PC back in 90s as well.

@uninspiredcup:

Your ongoing quest to denounce The Witcher and CDProjekt continues I see

In before hermit bullshots.

Arent all games made on PC anyways? i dont know if that makes them actually PC games but i couldn't care less. If the games are interesting and on consoles i'll buy it, if their only on PC i'll skip. simple as that.

@uninspiredcup:

No, you don't get to decide what is a PC game. I'm a PC gamer and I thoroughly enjoyed both Witcher games.

You do nothing but try to bash the PC, so you are the last person that gets to decide what is a PC game.

I almost don't even refer to these games as "console" games anymore. Consoles really exploded with the 360 and PS3 but the design of the games is made to be more casual and a quick fix--buy it and move on to the next one. It seems more accurate to call them "modern", except that in a few years the term won't seem right. What I mean to say is that consoles sprouted this sense of design but it is more a monetary sort of thing, anyways.

My beloved, games developed on pc do not equate to made, for the pc.

Sadly, now that pc gamers have actually been challenged (quite bravely), the somewhat limp "it doesn't matter" option has been opted.

It appears relevant when self-serving yet conversely irrelevant when presented as a criticism.

Being a real pc gamer, the pursuit of reality is of primary concern.

I doubt that.

@uninspiredcup:

You make no sense. I see you often praising consoles and console games, but then supposedly The Witcher 2 is a "console game" and you do nothing but bash it?

There is nothing wrong with stealth mechanics, or even QTEs for that matter, if they are used properly and in the right proportion.

You are trying to act like The Witcher is some crappy casual game, but in the real world many people complained about how hard it was. I think the difficulty was just right. It provided enough challenge to remain engaging, but didn't frustrate you or make you feel like you were wasting your time.

It's on PC, it plays fine with PC's controls, it's (supposedly) taking advantage of PC's capabilities, and its lead platform is PC.

If that's not a PC game, I don't know what the **** is.

Just because the game is cinematic and has a MGS vibe it's a console game? lol... wada F

I stop reading there.

Uninspired's hate boner of the Witcher and CDPR continues...

Man..., these trolls are getting lamer on here by the month.

Exactly.

@elkoldo:

This. The Order destros Witcher3

Witcher 1 was a pc game at heart. And witcher 2 ain't that bad on pc.

I wish we could get adblock working like we used to be able to on the old site.

If you can play it on PC, then yes, it's a PC game.

The Witcher (as a series) is a contradiction.

For example: Just Cause studio founders take:

The choice of developing a PC SKU is always up to the publisher. We can develop anything on any platform as it's just a question of time and money," Sundberg said. "If the game is primarily a console game, we always recommend the publisher to avoid a PC SKU as PC gamers are PC gamers and console gamers are console gamers."

Avoiding PC has nothing to do with piracy or anything like that. "Avoiding a platform because of piracy rather than attacking the problem is just giving in," he said, hinting that DRM is needless. "So I'd recommend finding smart solutions to allow players the freedom needed to play our games full out and the developers and publishers getting their return of investment.

"All in all, Avalanche Studios is primarily a console developer and the high-end platforms are the ones we prefer," Sundberg stated.

Even though he will face ire as I do (bravely), it was honest, in making the the distinction.

For others, this distinction, this, self-respect, it seems to disintegrate, morphing into a self-serving narrative abstaining any sense of responsibility through paper thin neutrality.

In short: it's a paradox.

more lies from TC?

the first one was. The second (and probably the next one) are designed around controllers. You can tell by the UI and menus.

Still a good action-RPG series. Their quest design is pretty hard to beat.

Plus CDP are good about making their games run well on PC.

An uninspiredcup thread...

it used to be

Witcher 1-2 were huge PC games traditional PC WRPG's like oldschool ones that pc gamers loved

yeah it fills pc shoes

microsoft came in and sony came in an threw bags of money at the witcher

i dunno what witcher 3 is anymore you tell me like you go look at the controls and the graphics and tell me if its really the witcher 3 pc or not

Another amazing uninspiredcup thread. Bravo!

+1

The Witcher 3 is a console styled title but the Wticher 2 is not?

Odd.

There were ppl on TW2 CDPR forums that said when the game first came out, many PC gamers claimed it was consolized.

I personally think CDPR is manipulating all PC gamers....b/c TW2 on PC was a beta test for consoles. There were so many problems with that game at the start...yet it's CDPR so....no one really got upset b/c of "cool PC gaming dev" reasons.

that was fun, half the forum was gone, but the quality was good

Did they use capital letters and full stops?

Ah, this brings up another good point.

CDP have boasted numerous times about a lack of dlc cost however, counterproductive to these claims, the Uk price for the base game is £49.99. Pc games cost £29.99 generally.

Regardless of not having to pay for DLC, it essentially amounts to the price of an pc game with a season pass.

What non sense this whole thread is. How about this: they're fucking video games, period. What platform a person plays them on is irrelevant, just play them. More bullshit to divide gamers is all I see here

Sadly that's not how it works. Games have various hardware limitations, audiences, control schemes, network capabilities, preferred genres and so fourth.

It would be nice if the world was like the happy people Coca-Cola advert, but it isn't.

Is this the new consolite tactic...just flat out lying?

Witcher3 is a prime example of AAA game made with mostly PC and mind and then shitty ports to consoles.

I hated the combat in both games on a pad and a mouse and keyboard. So this can only be an improvement.

Funny how even a big hermit in this thread alone said "we will have to wait and see"....yet...you seem to know all about a game not out yet.

Such desperation.

Who honestly cares as long as the quality of the game doesn't suffer for it?

I own both versions of TW2. And I have no fucking idea how you can even say PC version was a beta. First, the enhanced edition was given as a free patch too all PC version owners. And secondly, 360 version is no way in hell as good looking as PC version or have the same framerate. It's a good port, but it ends there.

And only real problem about TW2 I can remember in the beginning was the DRM issue. That Namco forced CDPR to put. Which was solved by being removed within days. There were few disappointments, but it was no way as broken as TW1's initial release.

Yeah, they lie left and right now because that's the only way they can downplay the PC as a platform.

While it's true that PC gamers and console gamers do have somewhat different tastes for certain genres, it's also true that there is a massive amount of overlap. If this weren't the case, we wouldn't be seeing 90% of the same games on PC as on consoles. These games wouldn't sell on one or the other platform and they would stop being made for that platform.

Yep, I was going to respond to that nonsense, but then some other nonsense distracted me.

Anyway, I completely agree. i played The Witcher 2 on PC since it came out and i had no issues with it. Currently I get over 100fps in it and it still looks superb and competes visually with games of today.

It's a prime example of downgrading a game

Lets see:

All that stuff like the battle arena that was added b/c ppl wanted a way to get good at combat was added to the PC version....but of course it was there for the console version

The DRM thing you mentioned

That whole Steam 9GB patch fiasco

Then there was the 2GB RAM as a system requirement....which was in fact incorrect. Many ppl had the same problem....the game would crash after a certain point and ppl with only 4GB of RAM and Windows 7 had to do a "pcreddit" or whatever it was and tell the PC to use more than just 2GB of the RAM.

The game used DX9 which so many scorned Skyrim for doing but yet....it's ok for a game to run like shit b/c of the stuff they wanted to do that would have been easier using DX10 or something....but it's CDPR so it's ok

Edit: Just remembered: Part of that 9GB patch was fixing issues with the combat b/c many ppl said the combat was broken or shit or whatever.....so yeah

So yeah....great game.

But hey....all this was sorted out before the console release.....so, sure, CDPR is Jesus for PC.

So this isn't a video game? You react and accept to what level all the bullshit terms differentiate them. Play games that you enjoy. All this shit is not adding to that for anyone.

lol what is so hard to understand? Witcher 1 was pc only, Witcher 2 was PC only then was downgraded and released on consoles a year later. Witcher 3 is a multiplatform with Pc centric ideas with specific graphics features and modding tools.

So the Witcher series is aimed toward pc gaming.....

Dude................he's God. Of course he knows

Project CD red is a PC dev at heart who have expended to consoles. TW1 was a 100% PC game, but it was clear that they wanted to expand to consoles the moment they came out with the design changes to TW2.

Don't know why anyone should be getting mad really. Being PC or console dominant will not make the game better or worse, that will be decided by the developers skill which by past releases is good but nothing ground breaking.

It is, but arguably a console game.

My friend: the point here is human morality, this thread is very much like a Charles Dickens novel.

Take for example Great Expectations, it's about a lady who hates men, who has lived a life of heartache, trying to prove love is futile. Setting up poor whats his name for a fall.

Ultimately she is proven wrong and even the seemingly irredeemable redeem themselfs through the kindness the young man displays.

Take into account CDP attempting to prove pc is great, proclaiming to be pro pc and the masses of pc gamers following them.

Like that fellow, they are being set up for a fall through a lie. They have no faith in pc gaming, from the start, they have aspired to be a console developer, tricking the young men, playing them for fools, the end of the road, a potentially dismal end full of pain and suffering.

It may seem cruel, but to highlight the hypocrisy in front of them, in the long run, it will set them free from the very shackles they themselfs have constructed.

Ok, and why would that matter in the least unless you're a person that hangs importance on the labels you use to identify games and yourself?

No, they aren't Jesus, they just made a good game and I didn't have any problems with it, that's all I'm saying.