Is the xbox one really beating the xbox 360.?

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#1 tormentos
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I make this thread because i think MS is artificially trying to make seen like the xbox one is really out performing the xbox 360 by allot,but in reality when you compare the numbers it really isn't the case.

Now the xbox one we all know started better sold 3 million units which is way more than what the xbox 360,but a key difference here is that the xbox 360 had a severe shortage do to yields which the xbox one didn't have,the xbox 360 had problems with shipment until April 2006 from November 2005 that is 5+ months of shortage,the xbox 360 sold 1.5 million units on holiday 2005 which is half of what the xbox one sold,but never the less the xbox one had a shortage.

NPD 2014 Xbox one.

Janaury 143k.

February 258k

March 320k

Arpil 115k

May 77k

June 195k.

Total 1108k

NPD xbox 360 2006.

Jan 250k Supply constrained.

Feb 160k Supply constrained.

Mar 54% less than April. supply constrain.

April 295k end of supply constrain.

May 180k

June 277k.

Total 1292k.

This ^^ is by NPD on the first 6 months of 2006 and 2014,as you can see the xbox 360 actually edge the xbox one in those 6 months,even on June when the xbox one hit $399.

Ms had 5 million units shipped by March 30,the xbox 360 had 5 million by June 30,the problem is that by June 30 MS still was rolling on those 5 million xbox one,since most of what was shipped was still unsold and they on April claimed they would slow down or even stop shipment of xbox to allow the channels to be clear.

http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Xbox-One-Production-May-Stall-Sales-Slow-Down-63710.html

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/multimedia/display/20061026175627.html

As of September 30 the xbox 360 was 6 millions,and MS claimed it would ship 10 million units by the end of the year which they did shipping a whopping 4.4 million units in October,November and December to achieve the number of 10.4 million units shipped by December 31.

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/microsoft-q2-2007,news-23676.html

We know for fact MS shipped 10.4 million xbox 360 by December 31 2006.

We know MS shipped almost 10 million units as of November 15 which included shipments to be sold in the holidays since MS sales were abysmal before the holidays,i did the first 6 months but the outselling continues by the 360 in july it sold 207k vs 137k xbox the one sold in july 2014,hell the 360 in its first july sold more than the PS4 on its first one.

So is MS actually trying to desperately make seen as if the xbox one is beating the xbox 360 when in reality it isn't or is close to it.?

Lets note some mark difference which make the xbox one sales trend look even more dull..

The xbox 360 had a shortage for 5+ months the xbox one flooded the market with unsold units.

The xbox 360 was never sold for up to $170 dollars under its original retail value.

The xbox 360 didn't have a free game included since January 2006 or bundle free any of its big games of 2006 like,Oblivion,Ghost Recon,dead rising or gears.

The xbox 360 didn't pack 2 free games on holiday while giving a free $50 dollar gift card on top of a price drop.

If the xbox 360 didn't have a shortage,and have all this 3 points i bold here during the xbox one first year even the wii would have not outsell the xbox 360.

A $230 xbox 360 with 2 games and a free $50 gift card would have destroy the market completely.

Alto i have to say the xbox one didn't have a $299 version,well not until the holidays were the unit was $330+ a $50 gift card which essentially make your xbox one cost as low as $280.

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#2 DEadliNE-Zero0
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lol Tormentos thread

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#3 Snugenz
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You sad bugger, who the **** cares.

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#4 tormentos
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@Snugenz said:

You sad bugger, who the **** cares.

If you don't care don't enter the fu**ing thread with your damage controls and GTFO no one is forcing you to read it or make you care for it..

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#5 tormentos
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@deadline-zero0 said:

lol Tormentos thread

Well look at it this way,mine thread has sales data,and links unlike some lemmings here and even hermits which make troll threads about the 830m GPU from Nvidia beating the PS4..lol

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#6 SecretPolice
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Like a red headed stepchild. :P

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#7 DEadliNE-Zero0
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@tormentos said:

@deadline-zero0 said:

lol Tormentos thread

Well look at it this way,mine thread has sales data,and links unlike some lemmings here and even hermits which make troll threads about the 830m GPU from Nvidia beating the PS4..lol

So, this isn't a troll thread? You sure?

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#8 Blabadon
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It's amazing how no one cares about your threads in a serious manner. I came here for the comments

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#10 speedfreak48t5p
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LOL Tormentos thread. Only came here for the lulz.

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#11  Edited By tormentos
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@deadline-zero0 said:

@tormentos said:

@deadline-zero0 said:

lol Tormentos thread

Well look at it this way,mine thread has sales data,and links unlike some lemmings here and even hermits which make troll threads about the 830m GPU from Nvidia beating the PS4..lol

So, this isn't a troll thread? You sure?

How is it a troll thread when the data i am posting come from NPD it self and can be easily found on the net.? Am i claiming something false.? Am i even saying the xbox one is loss AHAHAHA LOL lemming?

Now instead of having this useless argument with me why don't you give me your honest opinion on the matter.?

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#12  Edited By tormentos
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@sts106mat said:

fucking hell eltormo

why the **** do you care so much about this shit?

15 years of NPD sales numbers, AA batteries & RROD fiasco !

you need either a fuckin' holiday or a frontal lobotomy

Can you freaking give a freaking opinion instead of bitching like a small child.?

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@Snugenz said:

You sad bugger, who the **** cares.

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#14 tormentos
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Damn lemmings are touchy today..hahaha

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#16  Edited By lundy86_4
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More tormentos? Yes please. It's always hilarious to watch people mock you.

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#17 SolidGame_basic
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@tormentos said:
@Snugenz said:

You sad bugger, who the **** cares.

If you don't care don't enter the fu**ing thread with your damage controls and GTFO no one is forcing you to read it or make you care for it..

Amen. If people don't like a thread, it is a lot more effective ignoring it and letting it sink to the next page.

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#18 Snugenz
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@tormentos said:

Damn lemmings are touchy today..hahaha

Yeah thinking your threads are ridiculous and completely fucking sad indicates that the person must be a lemming.

You really do live in your own deluded little bubble don't ya.

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#19  Edited By Snugenz
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@SolidGame_basic said:

@tormentos said:
@Snugenz said:

You sad bugger, who the **** cares.

If you don't care don't enter the fu**ing thread with your damage controls and GTFO no one is forcing you to read it or make you care for it..

Amen. If people don't like a thread, it is a lot more effective ignoring it and letting it sink to the next page.

It's an el tomato thread, kinda like the freak show of SW, no one gives a shit how or why it's made but they're always oddly curious what'll happen in it.

Therefore, it'll never sink to the next page, no matter how profoundly dumb the thread is.

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#20 Chutebox
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I feel that torm is genuinely concerned about this.

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#21  Edited By tymeservesfate
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@SecretPolice said:

Like a red headed stepchild. :P

do you think his pubes are red too... -shudder-ew!

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#22 clone01
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@SolidGame_basic said:

@tormentos said:
@Snugenz said:

You sad bugger, who the **** cares.

If you don't care don't enter the fu**ing thread with your damage controls and GTFO no one is forcing you to read it or make you care for it..

Amen. If people don't like a thread, it is a lot more effective ignoring it and letting it sink to the next page.

True that.

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#23 Salt_The_Fries
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Tormentos is tormenting us all with his brainless propaganda-like topics against all things Xbox.

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#24 freedomfreak
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Well, you sure did your research.

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#25 blackace
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@tormentos: YES. Stop making your butthurt threads. No one wants to read all that garbage.

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#26 deactivated-5a44ec138c1e6
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Lemmings -_-

Hermits -_-

Haven’t been in System Wars for a while.

If this is true then pointing it out wouldn’t really stop MS from doing it. As sad as it sounds.

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#27 darkangel115
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@deadline-zero0 said:

lol Tormentos thread

well when he has nothing worthwhile to play, he has lots of time to ponder these things and try to make himself feel like he made the right choice

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#28 StormyJoe
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@tormentos: You only made this thread because you area a f**ked up supercow with nothing better to do...

As for your waste of time wall of text, it doesn't matter - the XB1 hit 10 million before the Xbox 360. It is selling better.

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#30 commander
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@tormentos said:

I make this thread because ...

Yeah well, the hololens is going to be great

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@tormentos said:

Damn lemmings are touchy today..hahaha

There's no need to be upset

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#32 Suppaman100
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..wow look at all that lemming damage control.

Typical lemmings, ignoring facts and going ad hominem.

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#33 tormentos
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@sts106mat said:

I dont have an opinion, because i don't care.

I question you, because i cannot understand why ANYONE would care.

even more unfathomable, is why someone would care for over a decade

Then WTF are you doing in this thread.? Hahahaa can't stay away from Tormy isn't it.? haha

@lundy86_4 said:

More tormentos? Yes please. It's always hilarious to watch people mock you.

Actually they don't muck me they plain hate me and start trying to stir the topic away or just plain post crap like you just did,preventing the thread from actually moving,so maybe i should ask who is actually trolling in here..

@Snugenz said:

Yeah thinking your threads are ridiculous and completely fucking sad indicates that the person must be a lemming.

You really do live in your own deluded little bubble don't ya.

That is the problem other lemmings do really shitty threads here and you say shit,1 no one is forcing you to read it,2 why get so anal about what other person say on a topic,3 did is cause you some mental stress did you lose some sleep.?

@Chutebox said:

I feel that torm is genuinely concerned about this.

Yep and the problem is that here they say they don't care,but on the sales threads you seem them making parades about how MS almost shipped 10 million units,and even pulling imaginary numbers like 13 million without anything to back it up..Is quite epic..

@Salt_The_Fries said:

Tormentos is tormenting us all with his brainless propaganda-like topics against all things Xbox.

Propaganda was the thread you did about windows 10 integration..hahaha

@blackace said:

@tormentos: YES. Stop making your butthurt threads. No one wants to read all that garbage.

Oh look who joined the lemming who have several times claim the xbox one is outperforming the xbox 360 and setting fake sales records..hahaha

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Lol, this thread is golden. Nobody takes Tomato serious.

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#35  Edited By tormentos
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@darkangel115 said:

@deadline-zero0 said:

lol Tormentos thread

well when he has nothing worthwhile to play, he has lots of time to ponder these things and try to make himself feel like he made the right choice

So you have nothing to play now and that is the reason you are here.?

@StormyJoe said:

@tormentos: You only made this thread because you area a f**ked up supercow with nothing better to do...

As for your waste of time wall of text, it doesn't matter - the XB1 hit 10 million before the Xbox 360. It is selling better.

What a meltdown..hahahah

LINK were MS stated we reach 10 million units.

Last i remember they say shortly we will ship more than 10 million units that is no confirmation,soon the PS4 will sell 20 million yeah how soon is the real question.

@deadline-zero0 said:

There's no need to be upset

Well i am not the one trolling the thread since post 1...lol Maybe that inner lemming inside you didn't like it..hahaha

@Suppaman100 said:

..wow look at all that lemming damage control.

Typical lemmings, ignoring facts and going ad hominem.

The xbox one for all we know could be as December 31 behind the xbox 360.

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#36  Edited By darkangel115
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@tormentos said:

@darkangel115 said:

@deadline-zero0 said:

lol Tormentos thread

well when he has nothing worthwhile to play, he has lots of time to ponder these things and try to make himself feel like he made the right choice

So you have nothing to play now and that is the reason you are here.?


I'm at work, when your the boss you can check in on forums occasionally :)

also I'm not making lame threads trying to calculate sales, i pretty much never make threads, just reply

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#37  Edited By StormyJoe
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@tormentos: Opps, and Oops.

LOL!!!!

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#38 dommeus
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@tormentos:

You should change your username to snorementos, because all your threads are the goddamn same and BORING

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#39 Blabadon
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What the actual **** is tormentos saying lol

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#40 Heil68
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All pale in comparison to current gen 8 leader SONY and PS4,

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#41  Edited By StormyJoe
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@Suppaman100 said:

..wow look at all that lemming damage control.

Typical lemmings, ignoring facts and going ad hominem.

Are you Tormentos's alt or his Lennie Small?

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@tormentos said:

If you don't care don't enter the fu**ing thread with your damage controls and GTFO no one is forcing you to read it or make you care for it..

no one reads your threads, just the title then scrolls through all the garbage in the middle.

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@StormyJoe said:

@tormentos: Opps, and Oops.

LOL!!!!

Microsoft is revealing today that it will "shortly" have shipped 10 million Xbox One consoles to retailers.

Opps you don't know how to freaking read..

This is based on the same article other are which is a blog which is you second link by the way..

As we head into the busy holiday season Xbox One led generation 8 console sales in the US for the past two weeks. Shortly, we will have sold in to retailers more than 10 million Xbox One consoles.

Hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa..From your 2 links..

No say we sold more than 10 million units,they say shortly we would sold more than 10 million.

If funny how MS make an announcement that they were beating the PS4 for 2 damn weeks,and been close to ship 10 million units and yet we don't know on January 23 the xbox one LTD as of december 31,which we know by January 6 already on 2013..

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/xbox-one-sold-3-million-units-in-2013-microsoft-says/1100-6416955/

Maybe is taking them extra time to count all those units they sold..lol

@Blabadon said:

What the actual **** is tormentos saying lol

That you are smart and great..

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#44 kingtito
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El Tormented having another meltdown?

Seriously, get checked out. I really really really believe you have some mental issues.

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#46 tormentos
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@kingtito said:

El Tormented having another meltdown?

Seriously, get checked out. I really really really believe you have some mental issues.

What meltdown bro i always post like this...lol

poor sad lemming,.

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#47 CrownKingArthur
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how dare they

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#48 tormentos
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@R3FURBISHED said:

@tormentos said:

If you don't care don't enter the fu**ing thread with your damage controls and GTFO no one is forcing you to read it or make you care for it..

no one reads your threads, just the title then scrolls through all the garbage in the middle.

WTF are you doing inside a thread you don't read.? Oh yeah you just read the post i make other wise you would not have reply saying what you say,so you do read...?

The title is more than enough to get lemming on fire,even that i posted links backing my data off,is funny how lemming and some lermits have also ignore the facts and play just attack my point..

I guess when you have a strong point there is no way to bring it down so is better to troll meltdown or damage control..hahaha

Guess which one you fit in..?

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#49  Edited By R3FURBISHED
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@tormentos: I didn't read your response either

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#50 supergokublitz
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So if this was the case with say the ps3 and the ps4 sales, would you of created a thread about that? (theoretical question just for kicks don't have a stroke)

Fact is you hate MS and love Sony it's as simple as that, everyone knows it.

Your a sony fanboy end of.