Is Xcom 2 currently best game of this generation???????????

Haven't played enough to say. I have played enough to say the optimization is terribad

Purely speaking in terms of actual gameplay, It's either this or Bloodborne.

And I'd say Xcom2 is better than Bloodborne.

>inb4 witcher, mgs and fallout cucks. Imao'ing at ur lyfe.

Past the fact that it's optimized pretty badly the game is overall very very good. Biggest complaint with it at this point is the constant timed missions, I get why they did it, and it works, just having to rush every through so many of the missions get's... Tiring for lack of a better word

Think my favorite game of this gen is probably Pillars of Eternity at the moment though

All AAA(AAAA) games are the best games of their generation

It's up there. It's rapidly entering my top 10 of all time list, even.

Bloodborne wouldn't rank though, it was a big disappointment to me. I hope Dark Souls 3 is a return to form, but Bloodborne was such a shallow, easy experience and that godawful chalice dungeon garbage is one of the worst things I've seen in gaming this generation.

No, the optimization is terrible. The UI is clunkier than it needs to be. There are some wierd bugs and poor design choices. Oh, and the writing is atrocious.

But it is fun.

Love it but it runs worst than DR3 on Xbone.

I have the same issues with it that I did the first, I cannot hit anything, the dice roll never falls in my favour, while the enemy never misses, I'm talking about team members dying on the first mission because they cant hit.

yeah this is a great game for raging especially if you're playing on two hardest difficulties. When you rush some1 with the sword, have 98% to hit and miss......... annoying.

I don't know, I haven't played it yet????????????????????????+

I beat ironman commander yesterday and yes the optimization is atrocious, pretty sure my fps hit single digits on certain spots on the last mission, that's with 980ti.

Game itself is great, better than the first new one imo

And people, you are not supposed to hit all your shots on the first missions, they are rookie soldiers... you are not supposed to sit behind covers and trade shot with the aliens, you are supposed to make the odds favor you, use flanks, use grenades.

@silversix_: at least it doesn't run as bad as bloodborne.

Not fair, that's a console game, of course it's going to run like shit. The only games a PS4 is capable of running 1080p / 60 fps are PS3 games and even then you still run into some patches with lowered frame rates.

well actually it runs worse, tho you can't beat bloodborne loadtimes but the fps dips are real

Bad strategies then. You can kill every enemy in the first mission with ease using completely 100% chance attacks, no RNG at all.

Bloodborne performs much worse, Bloodborne is 30 fps max, constant dips, frequently below 20 fps.

@howmakewood: I do that, grenades work yes, thats how I got past the first mission, flanking does nothing, I have watched a friend play and he does nothing different, in fact I copy what he does and it doesnt improve my odds. Though if you knew me irl you would know my luck is in the negatives.

Luck doesn't exist, first.

Second, flanking does plenty. Flank with a ranger, don't use the sword, and you'll almost always have 100% chance to hit. The game tells you what is causing your hit chance, so just look there.

Also rookies have 85% chance to hit on flank shots. On veteran difficulty level (equivalent of normal), you shouldn't take damage for the first three missions at least because of how easy they are.

@LuminousAether: cant it be that my luck is that bad, I mean it is a roll of the dice, your character could be point blank and still miss with a 99% chance, I accept that, I know the game is great, im not calling it crap or anything, just for me I cant play it as my luck sucks, always has in life.

Just reiterate, I think the game is great, deserves the 9/10 it got and all the praise.

At least the game can handle over 720p.

Haven't played XCOM 2, but I've played enough of The Phantom Pain and Witcher 3 to know they definitely rank among the best games this gen. Both for very different reasons, but they're excellent experiences.

I enjoy the game, aside from a few things:

-don't like the turn countdown. It often necessitates you use each soldiers full movement range per, which usually brings them to the edge of what's currently visible and I've often surprised enemies. What's so bad about allowing the player to move forward and use bounding overwatch at their own pace? This is a game about strategy and tactics, and putting people under pressure is not a smart decision. I wouldn't mind a FEW in reasonable context to the narrative, but here the game feels like it's making up excuses to put in countdowns whenever it can. I've had missions where I've only had eight or nine turns....ridiculous. This annoys me so much that I may end up waiting for a mod until it's removed or the dev hopefully comes out with a patch that makes it optional.

I also don't care for the art style and atmosphere. The environments are far too synthetic and bright in nature....they don't feel organic enough. The OG Xcom had an extremely foreboding feel....the music when you didn't know where the aliens were was fantastic. As it is now, everything is boring to look at and lacks any sort of tension. Still good strategy, but missing the personality.

There's already a mod out on the steam workshop for turn timers? Each for their own, I find removing them to make the game too easy

@silversix_: huh? Xcom runs at over 720p

@howmakewood: ah, thanks. In that case, one LESS complaint then.

The turn timers aren't always for finishing the mission. In the case of an 8 turn timed mission to get a chest, all you have to do is get a specialist in LOS of the chest, hack it, and then take your time with the rest of the mission. Also, if a timer runs out it isn't the end of the world. You can emergency evac out of a mission and just accept that you didn't finish it in time.

Also the timers are usually really, really lenient. I've finished 8 turn timers in 2 turns before. Sometimes in a 12 turn escort, I just wait out the last few turns to see if enemies send reinforcements for extra xp / loot.

I haven't played yet but it doesn't take much to beat MGSV and TW3 but th of which are not very good games. Bloodborne is just not my type of game anyway.

MGSV is just such a boring game. It has the worst open world I've ever seen in a game.

Best? hell no, is it a top 5 so far? sure.

I love Xcom 2, but it's a step down from Xcom EU with it's shitty mission structure. I'm not a fan of having a move limit and the Avatar Project is just the dumbest shit ever, seriously those missions when you have to save civilians is the worst mission(s) ever cause it ALWAYS comes down to the wire of losing almost every civi cause the mission straight up favors Alien rolls/finding the civis before you.

No, that would be Witcher 3.

Make sure to bring at least one grenadier for each mission and blow up that cover.

Demolitionists and phantoms are the are the top 2 units in this game. As badass as it looks to slice a Codex in half, Swordsmen are useless. Especially later on. Thankfully you can respec your useless swordsman to become phantoms.

I haven't lost a civilian rescue yet. A tip: don't even think about the civilians, do not try to rescue them, any left alive at the end of the mission will be saved. Enemies that are activated will usually attack your units, so activate them pretty quickly. If you make it really hard for them to attack you, like an obvious overwatch ambush, they'll just ignore you and attack more civvies so keep that in mind.

That same mission type was in EU though. The only difference in 2 is that they are called Retaliation missions now, not Terror missions.

Also EU had timed missions.

Avatar Project is fine.

XCOM 2 is a step up in my opinion, smarter tech trees, more options, better enemies, stronger challenge.

I'm avoiding this game mostly due from the way the missions are timed in a frustrating way. I cannot stand any game like that. I've played other games were timers are actually a main component in the game but they aren't frustrating and work, by the sounds of this game it ruins the fun.

You mention timed missions, or anything that'll frustrate me, and I run the other way. I only play games to relax and not to get stressed out.

The last one was criticized for favoring slow passive play, so they changed that. Obviously that doesn't please everyone, but like stated before there's a mod for increasing/removing turn timers.

Id say so yes. I agree with people who dont like the missions with a turn countdown, if there werent so many of them it wouldnt bother me. There are a few bugs here and there but none of those seem to effect game play. The game is really, really good. If it was a console exclusive it would have gotten 10/10 here on GS easily.

Yeah no kidding.. I haven't seen optimization this bad since the original NWN2.. The game is playable but there is no reason why the game shouldn't be able to max out on something like a 970 at 1080p.. I mean the game is a bigger resource hog than Witcher 3 and Star Citizen.

... I honestly thought the expansion fixed that.. Meld became a timed resource in which you had to play aggressively to reach it.. Haven't gotten too far in the game but I felt they could have extended the turns a little more simply for more playstyle choices

I love it, but no

Nope, PC sucks and they are all pirates

amirite ?

The UI isn't clunky at all..matter of fact it's better than it's ever been. The writing is actually decent compared to other games of this nature. If you want atrocious writing go play MGS V.

No issues at all with the RNG, but if you play bloodbowl and watch 4 1's come in a roll with startling regularity you'll know true hatred for an RNG.

I don't know. Xcom 2 was one of my most hyped games and I haven't purchased it yet. As soon as I heard about optimization issues I put on the breaks. I'll give them my money when they fix it.

Assuming they fix the long load times, I think it just might be. The framerate drops don't bother me at all in a turn-based game, but the amount of time it takes to get started on a mission and then fly back to the base does. Of course, I haven't finished the game yet, either, so it's a little bit early to make any declarations at all for me.

It's not even the best srpg this gen, that would be DIsgaea 5

Ah I see you recruited nothing but storm troopers. Would you like to recruit some red shirts from Star Trek? They will probably die once they hit the battle field but at least they will hit a target before they die.

Let me guess.It's some Japanese game.

*sigh*

Would there be a problem with that? I love Xcom, but I dont think is close enough to beat a Witcher or a metal gear

@R4gn4r0k: Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

Looks to be a solid game of great value, hope it come to consoles

Nah. It's fine. I sometimes wonder why some western people have a fetish for Japanese stuff. Anyway The Witcher 3 is also one of my favourite games of all time. MGS 5 could have been one too if it was more Metal Gear and less Ubisoft-Sandbox.

I just like story driven games more and most of the time Japanese games have a larger focus on story and characters. I like western games too, but I think there is more of a immersion focus in western titles

Wait what. Western RPGs, Adventure games, many story focused shooters and even RTS games(mostly by Blizzard and Relic) have better characters and stories than 90% of all JRPGs.