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#1 kungfuchaos
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That everyone believed that Bioshock would never be PS3 bound and here we are 9 months later and sure enough its on its way for PS3 owners to play this holiday season. Now here we all sit and PS3 fanboys insist over and over that MGS 4 will NEVER, EVER come to the 360!! Last I checked, Konami was a third party game developer and that Hideo Kojima wasn't an employee of Sony right? Ill predict MGS 4 on 360 no later than holidays 2009 with improvements just like Bioshock is now headed to PS3!!!
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#2 alexmurray
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I still dont think it will swich. Microsoft didn't need Bioshock they already had great games. Sony needs MGS4 because they dont have great games
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#3 DA_B0MB
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Wasn't MGS4 designed to take advantage of distinct PS3 hardware features?... I don't even know if it would be possible to port it, at least cleanly.
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#4 cutmaclass1
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Actually I'm pretty sure EVERYONE said that BioShock would be moving over to the PS3 at some point. Likewise, pretty much EVERYONE will tell you that MGS4 will never be coming to the 360. Knowing that it could be done, I really wouldn't mind playing a gimped version on the 360. I have absolutely no problem with compressed audio or switching discs :D Considering it's widely proclaimed to be one of the best games ever, I'd say it might be wise, in terms of business, for Konami to port the game. I mean look at Resident Evil 4; one of the greatest games ever, Mikami said he would cut his head off if the game were to be ported to the PS2 (unfortunately, he didn't follow through), but eventually the game enjoyed success on 4 platforms.
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#5 Mr_lulz
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It was made clear as day even before Bioshock saw the light of day. Remember the PC demo had "PS3" right on it. Anywase MGS4 won't come to the 360 for the fallowing reasons

1:This is Sony's biggest game and I doubt that they would allow it(that's like halo 3 going to the PS3)

2:Technically its impossible, Kojima is a perfectionist and hates to put games on multiple disk and the 360 simply can not run this game

I admire your hope though, but it will never ever ever happen. Evah!

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#6 deactivated-5de2fb6a3a711
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there'd be a lot of discs involved (which I don't really care about as long as they don't do things Lost Odyssey style and shove them all in one box).

it's not impossible since Sony doesn't own Metal Gear, but i can't see it coming any time soon.

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#7 EVOLV3
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You honestly think Sony didnt pay big $$ to keep MGS4 exclusive?
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#8 mlbslugger86
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it won't happen, thats something that even if i wanted it to happen so bad i know it won't happen
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#9 jack_michael
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money talks you know
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#10 Snowboarder99
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I'd say somewhere between 25% and never but closer to never
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#11 EVOLV3
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Konami has also met its sales mark of over 1 million on day 1. MGS4 is not going anywhere.
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It was made clear as day even before Bioshock saw the light of day. Remember the PC demo had "PS3" right on it. Anywase MGS4 won't come to the 360 for the fallowing reasons

1:This is Sony's biggest game and I doubt that they would allow it(that's like halo 3 going to the PS3)

2:Technically its impossible, Kojima is a perfectionist and hates to put games on multiple disk and the 360 simply can not run this game

I admire your hope though, but it will never ever ever happen. Evah!

Mr_lulz

Itagaki didn't port Sigma so someone else might port MGS4

also Konami isn't owned by sony

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#13 DontBeHatin1983
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since MGS3 never made it on the xbox i think not likely but MS should try to get konami to bring MGS3 on x360
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#14 MikeE21286
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If you've played through MGS4 you know there's a couple hints in there that say no, I'd still put the chances at like 25-50%
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#15 Red_Trigger
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No, there were rumors for a 360 release but the 360 version was dropped. Anyway, the PS3 needs more exclusives.
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#16 deleted_basic
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I think there is very good chance that MGS4 will come out on the Xbox 360 eventually Probably 1 and a half years from now
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It was made clear as day even before Bioshock saw the light of day. Remember the PC demo had "PS3" right on it. Anywase MGS4 won't come to the 360 for the fallowing reasons

1:This is Sony's biggest game and I doubt that they would allow it(that's like halo 3 going to the PS3)

2:Technically its impossible, Kojima is a perfectionist and hates to put games on multiple disk and the 360 simply can not run this game

I admire your hope though, but it will never ever ever happen. Evah!

Mr_lulz

1. Not Sony's game, Its Konami's to do with as it see's fit.

2. Twin Snakes was on two discs...

Btw, its disc not disk.

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#18 Mr_lulz
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[QUOTE="Mr_lulz"]

It was made clear as day even before Bioshock saw the light of day. Remember the PC demo had "PS3" right on it. Anywase MGS4 won't come to the 360 for the fallowing reasons

1:This is Sony's biggest game and I doubt that they would allow it(that's like halo 3 going to the PS3)

2:Technically its impossible, Kojima is a perfectionist and hates to put games on multiple disk and the 360 simply can not run this game

I admire your hope though, but it will never ever ever happen. Evah!

krunkfu2

Itagaki didn't port Sigma so someone else might port MGS4

also Konami isn't owned by sony

I still say it won't happen. Kojima has some brand loyalty ya know. Also seeing as the MGS2 sales on the xbox were crapola that lowers the chances even more.
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#19 jack_michael
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i would also like to say "never say never" in the gaminng industry. remember when they said RE4 was never gonna come to the ps2, and some chief exec from capcom swore he would would like cut of his hands or something if it did...yeah remember that.

they got round by cutting corners, e.g FMV instead of realtime cuts-scenes and obviously reducing the quality of the graphics.

never say never...

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It was made clear as day even before Bioshock saw the light of day. Remember the PC demo had "PS3" right on it. Anywase MGS4 won't come to the 360 for the fallowing reasons

1:This is Sony's biggest game and I doubt that they would allow it(that's like halo 3 going to the PS3)

2:Technically its impossible, Kojima is a perfectionist and hates to put games on multiple disk and the 360 simply can not run this game

I admire your hope though, but it will never ever ever happen. Evah!

Mr_lulz
Flaw in your logic with point #1.....MS owns the publishing rights to the Halo name and franchise. Bungie may have split from MS, but the Halo franchise and anything to do with it belongs to MS. Sony doesn't own 1 single thing about the MGS franchise!!!
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#22 Mr_lulz
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[QUOTE="Mr_lulz"]

It was made clear as day even before Bioshock saw the light of day. Remember the PC demo had "PS3" right on it. Anywase MGS4 won't come to the 360 for the fallowing reasons

1:This is Sony's biggest game and I doubt that they would allow it(that's like halo 3 going to the PS3)

2:Technically its impossible, Kojima is a perfectionist and hates to put games on multiple disk and the 360 simply can not run this game

I admire your hope though, but it will never ever ever happen. Evah!

kungfuchaos

Flaw in your logic with point #1.....MS owns the publishing rights to the Halo name and franchise. Bungie may have split from MS, but the Halo franchise and anything to do with it belongs to MS. Sony doesn't own 1 single thing about the MGS franchise!!!

Think about it. If you were the head of a major gaming company whose head console is in the crapper right now have their biggest game simply go to their rivals? It's common sense that it won't.

Edit: Do you think Microsoft is that threatened buy MGS4 they would shell out loads of money just to get it on the 360?

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#23 Rhen_Var
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Never gonna happen hands down.

MGS2 when to Xbox BEFORE Kojima productions were made so it's a big NEVER.

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#24 bigLLL
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it wont happen there are lots of playstation little things in the game, and its on a dual layer blu-ray disk and to top it off it's using all 7 processors you could say it's the first true ps3 game to come out to take advantage of what the ps3 has to offer

But another big thing is APPLE is heavily advertised in the game which would have been paid for by them which is basically microsofts rival

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[QUOTE="kungfuchaos"][QUOTE="Mr_lulz"]

It was made clear as day even before Bioshock saw the light of day. Remember the PC demo had "PS3" right on it. Anywase MGS4 won't come to the 360 for the fallowing reasons

1:This is Sony's biggest game and I doubt that they would allow it(that's like halo 3 going to the PS3)

2:Technically its impossible, Kojima is a perfectionist and hates to put games on multiple disk and the 360 simply can not run this game

I admire your hope though, but it will never ever ever happen. Evah!

Mr_lulz

Flaw in your logic with point #1.....MS owns the publishing rights to the Halo name and franchise. Bungie may have split from MS, but the Halo franchise and anything to do with it belongs to MS. Sony doesn't own 1 single thing about the MGS franchise!!!

Think about it. If you were the head of a major gaming company whose head console is in the crapper right now have their biggest game simply go to their rivals? It's common sense that it won't.

Edit: Do you think Microsoft is that threatened buy MGS4 they would shell out loads of money just to get it on the 360?

Ultimately the decision isn't up to Sony. If Konami thinks they can make a reasonable profit by porting MGS4 to another system, then they'll do it.
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#26 the-very-best
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I was pretty sure Bioshock would come to PS3. I think Sony payed lots of $$$ to keep MGSIV exclusive.

A PC release is more likely than a 360 one I think.

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#27 carljohnson3456
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Here is why I think it might not... Kojima already said (in the prelaunch GS interview) that there are some aspects of MGS4 that can only be done on the PS3. MGS4 takes a shot at DVD9... although this isnt a big deal. The computers in the game are Apple, and Snake can use an Ipod. Apple = MS's rival. And Sony acts like they might pay for exclusives now... I would think they'd paid Konami before they port it. And finally, the game sold 1.5 in the first day... I think if it sold worse, it would have better odds of going multiplat. But, it could. Ya never know.
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#28 cutmaclass1
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i would also like to say "never say never" in the gaminng industry. remember when they said RE4 was never gonna come to the ps2, and some chief exec from capcom swore he would would like cut of his hands or something if it did...yeah remember that.

they got round by cutting corners, e.g FMV instead of realtime cuts-scenes and obviously reducing the quality of the graphics.

never say never...

jack_michael
Supporting this (and my original post) is a link that mentions Mikami saying that he would cut his head off if RE4 were ever ported to the PS2. Again, I think it would very wise for Konami to make the game multiplatform, even if they have to change a lot and spread it over multiple discs. The RE4 instance is a very relevant example. EDIT: Those citing MGS2 Substance as a reason why there won't be a port take note: MGS2's plot was negatively received and was only the second in the series. MGS4's plot is one of the most well-received and the game has had the time and attention to build up hype across the gaming board. MGS4 =/= MGS2 Substance.
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[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]Here is why I think it might not... Kojima already said (in the prelaunch GS interview) that there are some aspects of MGS4 that can only be done on the PS3. MGS4 takes a shot at DVD9... although this isnt a big deal. The computers in the game are Apple, and Snake can use an Ipod. Apple = MS's rival. And Sony acts like they might pay for exclusives now... I would think they'd paid Konami before they port it. And finally, the game sold 1.5 in the first day... I think if it sold worse, it would have better odds of going multiplat. But, it could. Ya never know.

Microsoft makes software for the Mac, so obviously they're not that much of a rival.
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#30 MikeE21286
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The computers in the game are Apple, and Snake can use an Ipod. Apple = MS's rival. carljohnson3456

I hadn't thought about that......porting MGS4 to the 360 would be more than just "porting code" like Rob Smith said on the GT Bonus Round

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#31 xscrapzx
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To be honest who really knows? With all the rumors coming in last year and earlier this year it made you think that it might be possible, but I just can't see it happening it is just too big of game to let another console have, I think it would really hurt the PS3. Hey you never know though, but as of right now you probably have better chance winning the lottery, but then again where did all the rumors come from? I mean with as many as they were one has to think was there any relavance to them?

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#32 bulletwitch1
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I honestly wouldn't be surprised seeing another type of MGS on 360, seeing how substance came out for the XBOX but regarding this MGS, I truely don't think so. Lemmings would surely eat it up.

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[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]Here is why I think it might not... Kojima already said (in the prelaunch GS interview) that there are some aspects of MGS4 that can only be done on the PS3. MGS4 takes a shot at DVD9... although this isnt a big deal. The computers in the game are Apple, and Snake can use an Ipod. Apple = MS's rival. And Sony acts like they might pay for exclusives now... I would think they'd paid Konami before they port it. And finally, the game sold 1.5 in the first day... I think if it sold worse, it would have better odds of going multiplat. But, it could. Ya never know.ThePlothole
Microsoft makes software for the Mac, so obviously they're not that much of a rival.

"I'm a mac"

"And I'm a PC"

Ring a bell?

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#34 Mr_lulz
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Tell you all what: If MGS4 ever goes to the 360 I will videotape myself eating my own dirty underwear.Quote me on itI:D.
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Tell you all what: If MGS4 ever goes to the 360 I will videotape myself eating my own dirty underwear.Quote me on itI:D.Mr_lulz
Quoted so that your post can be immortalized in mine without fear of you coming back and editing it. I'll be bookmarking this thread ;)
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#36 Sooshy
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I honestly think this is the one game where it just couldn't fit on a DVD. They would have to split it, which they could do. I don't know... maybe so.
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#37 TMontana1004
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Kojima said in the GS interview he is considering it...
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Keep waiting.
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[QUOTE="ThePlothole"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]Here is why I think it might not... Kojima already said (in the prelaunch GS interview) that there are some aspects of MGS4 that can only be done on the PS3. MGS4 takes a shot at DVD9... although this isnt a big deal. The computers in the game are Apple, and Snake can use an Ipod. Apple = MS's rival. And Sony acts like they might pay for exclusives now... I would think they'd paid Konami before they port it. And finally, the game sold 1.5 in the first day... I think if it sold worse, it would have better odds of going multiplat. But, it could. Ya never know.carljohnson3456

Microsoft makes software for the Mac, so obviously they're not that much of a rival.

"I'm a mac"

"And I'm a PC"

Ring a bell?

And yet at the same time Apple has made it possible to run Windows natively on the system. At the same time Office and Internet Explorer have been available to Mac users for years. Obviously Apple would rather have you buy their hardware, but they could care less if you use Microsoft products on them. Actually Sony should be more threatened if anything. Since Sony actually has a line of computers.
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#40 67gt500
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You honestly think Sony didnt pay big $$ to keep MGS4 exclusive?EVOLV3

Sony's Phil Harrison (former President of SCE WWS, resigned February 29) stated, categorically, that they do not pay for exclusivity...

Since his departure, Kaz Hirai has hinted publically that Harrison's policy may change in the 'future...'

but in answer to your question 'yes, I honestly think Sony didnt pay big $$ to keep MGS4 exclusive...'

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#41 amourkiss588
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sure, it will come to 360 the day Halo come to PS3
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#42 mistervengeance
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do you know how much work that would take?

probably the same amount of work as making an entirely new game.

it would come on at least 3 disks.

it is far more likely that konami makes a different version, or completely different game exclusively for the 360. Kojima likes to do things very throuroughly, as you can see MGS4 is pretty much perfect.

this is not last gen where you simply port the engine and refit the controls and boom you're there. there are big differences between the consoles these days.