Isn't It Weird That Remastered Games Are Doing So Well?

Same thoughts.

I imagine the majority of those picking up remasters are playing the game for the first time. In that end, the publisher is providing a service/product for that consumer segment (not for me, though).

No, games in many ways have not advanced and the older remasters are alot of times games that are superior in mechanics and the like....

If there is one remaster I want to see is Mass Effect trilogy with updated graphics (at least for the first one) and a package that includes ALL THE DLC.. To this day EA is still selling the dlc seperately and they never go on sale..

What kind of games do you play? On the rails qte narratives with no meaningful player decisions? There are numerous games out there with tons of replayablity.. Some of them in which every playthrough can be completely different even if the player tries to play the same.. Total War games are a great example of this.

@sSubZerOo: I play a lot of story based games such as uncharted, Shadow of mordor, evil within, RPG games that require 50+ hours a play through such like persona

@Heroldp813: I most definitely wont unlessi t's something like a collection (MGS for eg) or major changes, so games from the PS1 era. Thing is, gamers are stupid enough to pay for nostalgia and companies will keep selling us this rubbish.

Like many others on this thread you nailed it - a new AAA game costs about $100 million and demands thousands of hours of work and dedication from a large group of people who basically forfeit their family life for a year or two. These developers risk getting divorced and ruining their health, over-straining their eyes, getting sick from overdosing on caffeine, malnutrition, the lack of sunlight and vitamin D; if they wither from overworking and don't have kids, who will be making games 20 years from now? Who thinks that every company out there has that kind of resources right from the start? Not to mention that every new game is a huge risk, a greater risk than a new movie for Hollywood which can swallow a flop without much damage with all that money floating around in there.

I have a problem with your "Every practice has shady aspects". What is "shady" about revitalizing an old game? The fact you can play it on a current gen console or on Windows 10 is "shady"? Because you're only supposed to be playing it on an 8-color piece of hardware from 1989? Do you think that if those developers back then had today's technology at their disposal they would still insist you play it on equipment with the computing and displaying power of a calculator? Or maybe paying the developers for all the work remastering the original is shady? Because who doesn't like working for free and eating the fresh cut grass from their lawn? It's supposed to be good for you.

I have a huge problem with your statement. You're confusing remasters with remakes. You can give a game a new engine if it's a remake. A remaster is a new coat of paint with a few bug fixes, and that's it. You can ask for anything but don't confuse the terms.

I find it all a bit puzzling. But I am still a bit confused why they could not make the games (or consoles, rather) all backwards compatible to begin with; one of the beautiful things about consoles is they're all standardized, someone's console in Idaho is pretty much going to be identical (hardware-wise) to someone's console in Hawaii. It would be really easy to just make every consecutive generation play the older one provided it can handle the media format (i.e. optical disk, etc.).

I think remasters are a scam. I would much prefer to see reboots; I would love to experience a host of other games given the same treatment that the Black Mesa team gave Half-Life. Their profit margins would go down as that would actually take development time, talent, and resources; I imagine with remasters you can outsource that crap to some IT firm in India or just give it some poor suckers interns straight out of some game design school.

Maybe I am delusional, but Halo made in CryEngine would be pretty dope, with some redesigned levels. Or an Okami redone with professional voice actors and sharper visuals?

Idunno I think remasters are just cash-ins; I get it, you missed out on that game, fine, but if you played it already you should not feed the beast. RESIST! lol

Moving forward, I feel they need to provide a code with every single game; these remasters seem to come out soon enough (I'm sorry but if I need to re-purchase my favorite games every generation, that's too soon!) then they should offer a "90% off remaster" coupon to holders of the original game.

Paying full price for a game that is already developed, that has been released for years, and is for a previous generation, is bullshit.

not surprised at all. Google ps3 drops BC threads and GoW collection threads. People were thrilled to pay again. TLOU was barely a year old and that announcement thread had people craving to double dip into their wallets. Gamers will pay for the slightest upgrade.

Same here.

Even with better textures or a mode plus here and there i wouldnt touch the same game twice , specially pay for it twice

Just depends on the remaster and what it means to you. I loved the Metro series and though Last Light was a great improvement to the original, the original game still had issues, it was nice the Redux made both games to one consistent standard so they can be loved equally.

Some games I'm less concerned having a modern day face-lift, buy appreciate being able to play them because they're still good games.

I don't get the attitude that says once you beat something you're forever done with it.

The only remastered game I'd buy would be God of War 2. Fun as hell

@Vatusus: You stopped reading because he destroyed your derpy "logic". Dear god its painful reading your drivel.

Guess it depends. Something like Homeworld is going on 20 years old now. Many gamers will not have played it, and many who did will have a vague memory. The Remaster itself is quite the upgrade.

Something like Bulletstorm where it looks practically indistinguishable, not really that old a game, with the actual additional content sold separately with an almost full price tag is straight up fecal matter.

@UNcartMe: "The only remastered game I'd buy would be God of War 2. Fun as hell"

So go buy it. I think it's $2.49 via the PStore.

I fucking hate it. Some companies are REALLY milking it. I understand complete overhaul re-makes like the REmake on the gamecube and such, but Resident Evil 4 has been re-released, what, 6 times now? **** off, man. Seriously. Gears of War re-release? Last of Us Re-Release? They came out in the HD era. what the f*ck?

@Shmiity: Pretty simple, don't buy them they aren't for you. Why complain though? What are they hurting? Did the release of TLoU physically or mentally hurt you? I guess I'll never understand the stupidity behind hating on remasters.

@ChrisAnetkaC:

I wouldn't say I'm confusing them, more lamenting the fact that the existence of remasters has probably made it less likely we'll see remakes - and in the case of games that have been remastered - probably killed all chances of it happening.

@PSP107: For PS4??

Be a good sport. Your entire position got destroyed. It's not a bad thing to lose an argument. It means you learned something.

@Juub1990:

I suppose I could've been less of an asshole about it. It's understandable when someone isn't exactly receptive to condescending attitudes, but...

Its my point of view. I've already heard all types of arguments against mine and they never convinced me so, dont bother...

Yeah, that just rubbed me the wrong way lol. Basically saying that his mind is closed, no matter what logic is brought to the table.

@vfighter: ....Really? The more we buy them, the more we further the trend. Come on dude, look more than 5 minutes into the future. If we keep re-buying these shitty remasters, publishers will keep putting them out instead of new entries/IPs. THAT hurts gamers. No more of this lame "If its not for you, dont do it" bullshit. Take a damn stance

@Shmiity: That's it, let the stupidity flow through you...

Remasters don't hurt gamers period. They don't stop a developer from making new IPs, not sure where that derpy idea came from. If anything it helps bring out new IPs and new games as it's easy and quick money for them. Hell most of the time an outside company works on the remasters so the original developer doesn't even have to waste one tiny resource on it.

This is just a pointless internet hate trend, it became popular and little brainless sheep like yourself jumped on board for the ride.

You may believe me or may not, I honestly dont care, but I assure you I havent read any replies on the matter in this thread. I've already debated countless times, weighted all the cons and pros, and they never changed my mind. I already stated I was not in the mood to debate all this cr4p all over again and so I did not

But if that makes you feel better then kudos to you

edit: I also want to add this: I dont have a problem with remasters (or rather remakes) of really old games like REmake or RE Origins (hell this was the only remaster I bought because I never had the chance to play them before and I'm glad I did). What I dispise are remasters of sometimes not even 2/3 year old games with minimal change. REmake and Zero are justifiable cause at the time not everyone had a GC to play them on. Most remasters this gen were multiplats playable in every platform possible last gen so most dont even have that excuse. I'm sure most buying them are just double dipping on the same exact game just for a change in resolution... that grinds my gears when those people could be spending their money supporting rather new games, some with high quality that recently have been tanking... I know its their money and they should do w/e they want with it but I cant help but be frustrated with the situation... the big, popular market often dictates the course the industry takes further on and the abuse of remasters this gen can potentiate less investment and inovation in the future

@Vatusus: There's no debate to be had.

Gamers playing great games on new systems doesn't hurt them. Mario Kart Deluxe on WiiU. Is it bad gamers are playing that? Is it hurtful that PS4 gamers had the choice to play The Last of Us? I see no harm in this at all. It introduces gamers to great games they didn't have a chance to play.

As far as the whole remaster debate goes, this is actually the argument I don't get the most. The argument against remasters is always that it takes away people from working on new games but remasters of games that are more than one gen old take significantly more work since they aren't in HD already.

Yup. There's:

A. What really happens and how things things actually work.

B. Emotion driven arguments that have no basis in reality, with supporting arguments that turn into swiss cheese when given a moments thought.

Anyways. Gamers lol. You don't see these silly arguments when movies or shows get remasters.

Not really since there's less than a months worth of worthwhile gaming on the current consoles.

People like revisiting fun experiences from their past, recent or distant. That's most likely the reason behind the success of most of these remasters.

What the remaster Mario Cart 8? Another Nintendo fanboy thread,in disguise. I think I hate Nintendo fanboys worst then pc Elite's.

Give these fuckers an inch they take a mile, enjoy the short lived success.

No. It's a remaster that's making me consider on whether I should get a Switch.

@Advid-Gamer:"enjoy the short lived success."

I won't trust Nintendo with Switch either. =(

I'm not crazy about remasters/reboots, but can they at least remaster something that I didn't play 5 years before?

I don't mind remastered games,hoping for a Halo:Reach remaster sometime in the future.

@soul_starter: Older games are rubbish to you then? Nice.

@mrbojangles25: Console backwards compatibility, due to differences in hardware and software between generations, is a question of emulation, and creating emulators takes time and money. Microsoft was willing to spend that money and I think they're not sorry for it, while Sony wasn't and they should be sorry they hadn't. The problem is you seem to think that the existence of remasters is a proof of some sort of conspiracy going on with the sole aim of gutting your wallet. Yes, let's all stop paying for games and wait until they're all free! That will teach those lazy conniving developers to roll up their sleeves instead of coming up with new scams. Nobody is forcing you to buy those remasters. You like your game in 8 colors on a 3" screen? Fine. Myself I'd rather get the 60fps remaster. I got "AC: Black Flag" on 360 and then I got the XB1 version. I didn't pay full price for it but I did buy it new. You're probably laughing now and repeating: "What a sucker!" but I did it because I want to show the developers that I liked their work and this is the best way to send the message.

@uninspiredcup: Can you reveal who is shoving the remastered Bulletstorm down your throat?

@AsadMahdi59: I can think of a few titles that could use that kind of a treatment so I can see your point. However, you're practically asking for a new game and that takes a lot more resources and money.A remaster should only bring an older title out of obscurity and give it a shiny new paint job. And fix the known issues.

@vfighter: It's interesting that all enemies of remasters come across as vulgar and immature boors.

The Wipeout and Crash Bandicoot ones, that's how to do it. Take THREE games, three games that are two generations behind or more, remaster them ALL.... $40. That's how to do it.

"It's optional" doesn't equate to "It's not bullshit".

@ChrisAnetkaC: fair enough, but you tossed some hyperbole in there at the end.

I'm not asking for free games (I'm asking to be able to continue to play the games I bought on expensive hardware I bought) and I'm not asking them to stop development or for games to remain on 3" screens (all tech eventually get's abandoned, just not at such an obscene rate as consoles would have us do it at) :D Interestingly enough, since you brought up 3" screens, the Game Boy I got for Christmas 25 years ago still works flawlessly...if they DID still make cartridge-based games for 3" screens, well... :P

As for AC: Black Flag, it's your money...but I don't think they care about your "support", your gesture. If it was a small developer, maybe. But we are talking Ubisoft here, a multi-billion dollar monster. They don't need your charity. I won't say you got suckered, you made a conscious choice; but I just think it's a game that should have been backwards compatible is all.

Pretty much how I feel.

People sit there all self-righteous and go "Well, this is good. It's about choice! Don't be so butthurt, bro"

I just feel like I have the choice to be butthurt is all. I feel like before the remaster, Bulletstorm was available for 5 dollars and I didn't have to give a lot of money to a morally bankrupt Randy Pritchford, is all.

Now the original perfectly-playable and fun Bulletstorm is not available at all; I find that a bit messed up. They haven't really given us a choice at all; they've removed choices (plural), and forced us into one, more expensive option.

I agree. How would you feel if 3 Syphon Filter games were remastered?

@mrbojangles25: How is the original bulletstorm not around anymore?!? Go to any GameStop or even Amazon/eBay and you'll find plenty of ultra cheap copies. Your whole line of logic of wrong and unfounded, you just want to hate because it's the cool trend at the moment.

He's talking about Steam, original was very cheap, now it's removed, replaced by a product X3/X4 the price.

@uninspiredcup: And that's why digital sucks.

I buy them if I never played the original.

Baffles me how I managed to put over 111 hours into Skyrim again.

Man tell me about it. I can't wait to repurchase Skyrim again this gen so I can dump another 200+ hour into it all over again. It's just so much to do in that game it's like I never get bored lol

@valgaav_219: I'm still finding new shouts and locations!

@playmynutz: ikr. I give a serious kudos to anybody that got a platinum trophy on it lol

So you'd rather play a new game than replay an old one? I can be pretty opposite.

lol oh the hypocrisy....