It is pure mazochism to be a console gamer in EU.....

[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

What is really insane is that you still buy your games in your country. Order them from the United Kingdom like every sane European gamer would. They often are €15 to €20 cheaper there. Try price comparison websites such as GamesTracker.com and/or Find-Games.co.uk as well. Online retailers such as MyMemory.co.uk have "Free Worldwide Delivery" and are therefore excellent to order from if you happen to live somewhere in Europe that is not the United Kingdom.Hexagon_777

MyMemory.co.uk ships to Greece for free.Forza 3 costs £40.95/€45.32 at MyMemory.co.uk. €64.99 - €45.32 = €19.67 saved.

This is what's left of your argument: The wait and the risk of it getting lost.

Do you even consider how many people are in the position of going through all that hassle? ONE game lost in the mail will cost more than THREE games bought from Greek retailers....instead of UK. I dont even wont to get to people that dont speak english.... The retail situation is as such you cannot deny it. And with the console sections of retail BOOMING and the PC shrinking it is clear that console gaming is much more expensive than PC for most of the consuming population.True_Gamer_

How many people are in the position of going through that is irrelevent, because that's not what you were arguing. First it was about console games being ridiculosly priced in the EU, when it was proved that you could import games a lot cheaper from the UK, it moved to games being ridiculously overpriced in Greece. Now that someone has shown that you can import them into Greece just as cheaply, you moved the goalposts again.

It doesn't matter how many people will go through the extra hassle of importing, all that matters is that they can if they want to. If people don't look around and check out their options, then it's their own fault for paying so much.

[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"]Do you even consider how many people are in the position of going through all that hassle? ONE game lost in the mail will cost more than THREE games bought from Greek retailers....instead of UK. I dont even wont to get to people that dont speak english.... The retail situation is as such you cannot deny it. And with the console sections of retail BOOMING and the PC shrinking it is clear that console gaming is much more expensive than PC for most of the consuming population.BZSIN

How many people are in the position of going through that is irrelevent, because that's not what you were arguing. First it was about console games being ridiculosly priced in the EU, when it was proved that you could import games a lot cheaper from the UK, it moved to games being ridiculously overpriced in Greece. Now that someone has shown that you can import them into Greece just as cheaply, you moved the goalposts again.

It doesn't matter how many people will go through the extra hassle of importing, all that matters is that they can if they want to. If people don't look around and check out their options, then it's their own fault for paying so much.

PS masochism is proven again having a debit/credit card, risking the detail of the said card online. Risking the product is lost in mail. :lol:

By the way, is there a decent price comparison site for things that aren't games? I'm looking for headphones and realized that maybe those are cheaper in the UK as well.InsaneBasura

Sure thing, bro.

Try

www.find-electricalgoods.co.uk

www.pricerunner.co.uk

www.hotukdeals.com

Good luck.

Eh, the prices aren't too bad in the UK, I can still afford to buy three games this month and I'm not exactly rich.angelkimne

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"]I still cant find a retailer that ships for free to greece....And the price difference isnt that huge its like €50 for FORZA in UK....Add to that the usual €8-€10 shipping fee and the wait and risk of it being lost in the mail become POINTLESS...True_Gamer_

They will have to send you a replacement copy which will cost you nothing as far as I am aware or provide you with a refund. No money lost whatsoever. Are you deliberately ignoring the facts? Do you just want to argue that console gaming is more expensive and think you're right or do you want some advice on where to buy your games cheaply? Unfortunately it sounds like you're just here for the former.

[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]MyMemory.co.uk ships to Greece for free.Forza 3 costs £40.95/€45.32 at MyMemory.co.uk. €64.99 - €45.32 = €19.67 saved.This is what's left of your argument: The wait and the risk of it getting lost.Hexagon_777

They will have to send you a replacement copy which will cost you nothing as far as I am aware or provide you with a refund. No money lost whatsoever. Are you deliberately ignoring the facts? Do you just want to argue that console gaming is more expensive and think you're right or do you want some advice on where to buy your games cheaply? Unfortunately it sounds like you're just here for the former.

[QUOTE="InsaneBasura"]Import from the UK like a normal European person.AdrianWerner

play.com is pretty cheap and has free shipping in the whole EU

[QUOTE="BZSIN"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"]Do you even consider how many people are in the position of going through all that hassle? ONE game lost in the mail will cost more than THREE games bought from Greek retailers....instead of UK. I dont even wont to get to people that dont speak english.... The retail situation is as such you cannot deny it. And with the console sections of retail BOOMING and the PC shrinking it is clear that console gaming is much more expensive than PC for most of the consuming population.True_Gamer_

Like I said, you won't lose any money whatsoever so that point is mute. Furthermore, what's the point of shopping with a debit or credit card at all? You risk your details every time! I have been shopping online for years and have utilised many offers exclusive to the world of online shopping without ever facing any problems. You can continue paying your silly prices in stores but I will order online and save money in the process.

[QUOTE="chunkymonkey313"]if u live in greece then how do u speak english then?killerfist

Guess someone needs to make a game with Euro-based distribution. Would be an insta-hit just for being cheaperz!:D

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"] Do you even consider how many people are in the position of going through all that hassle? ONE game lost in the mail will cost more than THREE games bought from Greek retailers....instead of UK. I dont even wont to get to people that dont speak english.... The retail situation is as such you cannot deny it. And with the console sections of retail BOOMING and the PC shrinking it is clear that console gaming is much more expensive than PC for most of the consuming population.True_Gamer_

http://www.zavvi.com/games/platforms/ps3/pes-2010-pro-evolution-soccer/10042538.html

What's there to explain? I never argued that PC games are not cheaper than console games. All I did was give you shopping advice. You sound like a hermit trying to put consoles in the dirt.

[QUOTE="chunkymonkey313"]if u live in greece then how do u speak english then?panos322

Americans , you never cease to amaze me....

i am from greece too.

explain this: http://www.zavvi.com/games/platforms/pc/pes-2010-pro-evolution-soccer/10042537.html http://www.zavvi.com/games/platforms/ps3/pes-2010-pro-evolution-soccer/10042538.htmlTrue_Gamer_

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"][QUOTE="InsaneBasura"]Import from the UK like a normal European person.Cyberfairy

Not really. They include the cost of delivery in the € price, hence why they have a very strange exchange rate between the £ and the €.

MyMemory.co.uk has actual free delivery in the EU. :P

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"]I still cant find a retailer that ships for free to greece....And the price difference isnt that huge its like €50 for FORZA in UK....Add to that the usual €8-€10 shipping fee and the wait and risk of it being lost in the mail become POINTLESS...True_Gamer_

MyMemory.co.uk ships to Greece for free.Forza 3 costs £40.95/€45.32 at MyMemory.co.uk. €64.99 - €45.32 = €19.67 saved.

This is what's left of your argument: The wait and the risk of it getting lost.

And how would anything getting lost in the mail cost you anything? I don't understand that. The only caveat of note is that you'll have to wait approximately one week for the games to be delivered.

But if you don't want to save money by importing from the UK because it's against your belief of it not being beneficial due to some made-up nonsense, then I guess that's your asinine prerogative...

import from uk = problem solved

Because the games prices are INSANE....

I live in Greece and the retail prices are INSANE for games....Look at this:

http://www.multirama.gr/products/product?pid=0422530&catid=070205

Forza 3 at €65? Thats like nearly 1/3 of a WHOLE Xbox360!!!!!

And not that PC hardware is expensive....When one can get a HD4850 1Gb at less than €100....

If I lived in the USA I might have been lured to be a console gamer....But with games at these price no sir thanks....

True_Gamer_

[QUOTE="InsaneBasura"]By the way, is there a decent price comparison site for things that aren't games? I'm looking for headphones and realized that maybe those are cheaper in the UK as well.Hexagon_777

Sure thing, bro.

Try

www.find-electricalgoods.co.uk

www.pricerunner.co.uk

www.hotukdeals.com

Good luck.

Did you catch the above, InsaneBasura? :o

Used games for 8-30 euros, gotta love web auctions. I did pay €40 for Uncharted 2 though :)

yes, i have the same problem. here in europe games are 60 - 70 euro and ps3 cost 299 euros witch means around $450.

I am from greece, too (at schools we are learning english)

Because the games prices are INSANE....

I live in Greece and the retail prices are INSANE for games....Look at this:

http://www.multirama.gr/products/product?pid=0422530&catid=070205

Forza 3 at €65? Thats like nearly 1/3 of a WHOLE Xbox360!!!!!

And not that PC hardware is expensive....When one can get a HD4850 1Gb at less than €100....

If I lived in the USA I might have been lured to be a console gamer....But with games at these price no sir thanks....

True_Gamer_

OK MY FELLOW GREEK

i ll sent you some p.m with some really cheap greek stores. in example tekken 6 can be bought at 45 euros instead of 60....

btw all greeks know fluent english... we are well educated... (i may did a syntax error there xD)

yes, i have the same problem. here in europe games are 60 - 70 euro and ps3 cost 299 euros witch means around $450.sasapac

Just check all my posts in this thread and you'll find out how to save a great deal of money. :)

[QUOTE="rogerjak"]

[QUOTE="nunovlopes"]

Yeah, I live in Portugal and it's pretty much the same. Fortunately, there's Steam, dvd.co.uk, amazon.co.uk, play.com...Hexagon_777

I have noticed that you Portuguese really like DVD.co.uk but I still don't know why. :P

:)

Well, it doesn't have a huge library but the games it does have are usually cheap. Plus shipping costs are only 1£! I have no idea how they manage it!

[QUOTE="InsaneBasura"]By the way, is there a decent price comparison site for things that aren't games? I'm looking for headphones and realized that maybe those are cheaper in the UK as well.Hexagon_777

Sure thing, bro.

Try

www.find-electricalgoods.co.uk

www.pricerunner.co.uk

www.hotukdeals.com

Good luck.

Man, I'm bookmarking all those links! ;)

[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

MyMemory.co.uk ships to Greece for free.Forza 3 costs £40.95/€45.32 at MyMemory.co.uk. €64.99 - €45.32 = €19.67 saved.

This is what's left of your argument: The wait and the risk of it getting lost.

InsaneBasura

And how would anything getting lost in the mail cost you anything? I don't understand that. The only caveat of note is that you'll have to wait approximately one week for the games to be delivered.

But if you don't want to save money by importing from the UK because it's against your belief of it not being beneficial due to some made-up nonsense, then I guess that's your asinine prerogative...

That also happened to a friend of mine here in Portugal, when buying Left 4 Dead from play.com. He got 2 copies!

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="rogerjak"]I'm from Portugal to and I thank God everyday for DVD.co.uknunovlopes

:)

Well, it doesn't have a huge library but the games it does have are usually cheap. Plus shipping costs are only 1£! I have no idea how they manage it!

I have heard that £1 argument before but it surely couldn't be the only reason as to why practically every Portuguese on the GameSpot forums loves DVD.co.uk.

Oh well, if the Portuguese love DVD.co.uk because of their £1 delivery charge, then they will worship MyMemory.co.uk for having no delivery charges whatsoever.

[QUOTE="nunovlopes"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]I have noticed that you Portuguese really like DVD.co.uk but I still don't know why. :PHexagon_777

:)

Well, it doesn't have a huge library but the games it does have are usually cheap. Plus shipping costs are only 1£! I have no idea how they manage it!

I have heard that £1 argument before but it surely couldn't be the only reason as to why practically every Portuguese on the GameSpot forums loves DVD.co.uk.

Oh well, if the Portuguese love DVD.co.uk because of their £1 delivery charge, then they will worship MyMemory.co.uk for having no delivery charges whatsoever.

We don't "love" dvd.co.uk, but 1£ is a hell of a lot better than 8£ or 9£ which is what amazon.co.uk charges. I didn't know about mymemory.co.uk, seems great.

[QUOTE="nunovlopes"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]I have noticed that you Portuguese really like DVD.co.uk but I still don't know why. :PHexagon_777

:)

Well, it doesn't have a huge library but the games it does have are usually cheap. Plus shipping costs are only 1£! I have no idea how they manage it!

I have heard that £1 argument before but it surely couldn't be the only reason as to why practically every Portuguese on the GameSpot forums loves DVD.co.uk.

Oh well, if the Portuguese love DVD.co.uk because of their £1 delivery charge, then they will worship MyMemory.co.uk for having no delivery charges whatsoever.

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="InsaneBasura"]By the way, is there a decent price comparison site for things that aren't games? I'm looking for headphones and realized that maybe those are cheaper in the UK as well.nunovlopes

Try

www.find-electricalgoods.co.uk

www.pricerunner.co.uk

www.hotukdeals.com

Good luck.

Bookmark these instead:

GamesTracker.com

Find-Games.co.uk

They focus on video games. ;)

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

[QUOTE="nunovlopes"]

:)

Well, it doesn't have a huge library but the games it does have are usually cheap. Plus shipping costs are only 1£! I have no idea how they manage it!nunovlopes

I have heard that £1 argument before but it surely couldn't be the only reason as to why practically every Portuguese on the GameSpot forums loves DVD.co.uk.

Oh well, if the Portuguese love DVD.co.uk because of their £1 delivery charge, then they will worship MyMemory.co.uk for having no delivery charges whatsoever.

We don't "love" dvd.co.uk, but 1£ is a hell of a lot better than 8£ or 9£ which is what amazon.co.uk charges. I didn't know about mymemory.co.uk, seems great.

Example:

Crysis Maximum Edition

dvd.co.uk = £26.49 + £1 = £27.49 (http://www.dvd.co.uk/Games/Crysis-PC/EA06907/product.htm)
mymemory.co.uk = £28.95 (http://www.mymemory.co.uk/PC-Games/Generic/Crysis---Maximum-Edition-(PC-DVD))

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="nunovlopes"]

:)

Well, it doesn't have a huge library but the games it does have are usually cheap. Plus shipping costs are only 1£! I have no idea how they manage it!nunovlopes

"Love" was just a friendly exaggeration so please don't take offence. :)

MyMemory.co.uk is indeed great, perhaps greater than DVD.co.uk.

Did you catch the above, InsaneBasura? :o

Hexagon_777

We don't "love" dvd.co.uk, but 1£ is a hell of a lot better than 8£ or 9£ which is whatamazon.co.uk charges. I didn't know about mymemory.co.uk, seems great.

nunovlopes

You peeps should check into Zavvi and Shopto. Zavvi changes their prices like once every day at minimum. If your timing is right you could make some sweet deals. Mega Mondays are always reliable though. Shopto charges £3.50 for their 1st clas recommended signed something or other shipping, but the prices are usually so low it'll end up the cheapest anyway.

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="nunovlopes"]:)

Well, it doesn't have a huge library but the games it does have are usually cheap. Plus shipping costs are only 1£! I have no idea how they manage it!kolkov01

Oh well, if the Portuguese love DVD.co.uk because of their £1 delivery charge, then they will worship MyMemory.co.uk for having no delivery charges whatsoever.

Like I said, it's popular amongst the Portuguese who visit GameSpot, not in Portugal as a whole. :P