Itagaki To PS3 Fans: Ninja Gaiden Sigma Is No Good

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#1 Mystery_Writer
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What did you think of the PS3 game Ninja Gaiden: Sigma? I'm told you won't even sign copies of the game...?

Itagaki: It was no good.

Why's that? I thought it was pretty good.

Itagaki: All you need to do is play Ninja Gaiden II and then try and play Sigma afterwards and you'll see why. Despite the fact that it's on a 'next-generation' console there's no evolution whatsoever. That was made not by me, but one of my sub-ordinates who basically tried to copy the success of Ninja Gaiden.

http://kotaku.com/5010331/itagaki-rags-on-ninja-gaiden-sigma

P.S. As usual, apologies if old.

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#2 ChrnoTrigger
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Jealousy or plain fanboyism? Either way, that was something rough to say considering the game did pretty well.
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#3 WINDWAKER1
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It's Itagaki.
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#4 Eltroz
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Jealousy or plain fanboyism? Either way, that was something rough to say considering the game did pretty well.ChrnoTrigger
Umm what? He is the one that made the game in the forst place last gen. He has nothing to be jealous of since it is his game. Seems he thinks was great for last gen but was a waste for current gen. Just makes me wonder how great he made NG:2

Also anyone thinking NG:2 has a chance of being on the PS3 :lol: here is what he also said in that article -Elsewhere in the interview, Itagaki confirms that Ninja Gaiden II will never appear on the PS3, and if it ever did that would be "a loss of face for everyone involved."

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#5 rzepak
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The guy is basically saying he does not like remakes and thats awesome...Are you people so used to EA and Capcom that remakes have become a good thing in your eyes?
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#6 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"]Jealousy or plain fanboyism? Either way, that was something rough to say considering the game did pretty well.Eltroz

Umm what? He is the one that made the game in the forst place last gen. He has nothing to be jealous of since it is his game. Seems he thinks was great for last gen but was a waste for current gen. Just makes me wonder how great he made NG:2

He's a Ps3 hate for some reason. For the game being "no good", it sure seemed to score very good for a last gen game.

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#7 deactivated-58319077a6477
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I didn't like Sigma to be honest I still prefer the original on the xbox.

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#8 jg4xchamp
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He is comparing to his new product Ninja Gaiden 2. He feels he has outdone just about everything Sigma did with Ninja Gaiden 2.

Which would be saying alot as that was a remake of a remake that scored AAA.
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#9 Eltroz
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Still blows my mind that a game scored AAA 3 different times in two different gens. Just shows you how good of a game NG is.
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#10 Chutebox
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Still blows my mind that a game scored AAA 3 different times in two different gens. Just shows you how good of a game NG is.Eltroz

Yea, that game is freaking awesome, although very(can't emphasize that enough) frustrating at times. I know it won't happen, but if they could somehow incorporate a good story in there, watch out.

Edit: It appears today is "quote Eltroz day". Don't know why...

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#11 ONLYDOD
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hmm, a 9/10 review disagrees. Im sure NG2 will be better but Sigma is still a great game, maybe he's just an xbox enthuseist?
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#12 doobie1975
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I didn't like Sigma to be honest I still prefer the original on the xbox.

Star650

what did you find that was differant

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#13 jg4xchamp
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Still blows my mind that a game scored AAA 3 different times in two different gens. Just shows you how good of a game NG is.Eltroz
The second one wasn't all that impressive considering how much they added into Black.

Sigma was impressive because it was "Next Gen" the critics would obviousaly expect more. It added nothing new other than a few missions with Rachel and the game still got a 9.0. That was what impressed me. That they could make a remake with very few improvements other than visuals and still get the same score.

RE 4 for the Wii had the improved controls so it was no shocker Resident Evil 4 Wii scored well, but Sigma getting a 9.0 was impressive.
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#14 Chutebox
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hmm, a 9/10 review disagrees. Im sure NG2 will be better but Sigma is still a great game, maybe he's just an xbox enthuseist?ONLYDOD

He's just building hype for NG2.

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#15 rockydog1111
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Of course he doesnt like it, he didnt make it. This mans head is bigger than his games will ever be.
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#16 pro-nathan-07
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thats a bold thing to say
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#17 hellrazor06
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he also hates tekken ,but tekken own his sorry ass games :lol:, NG is "good" and im lookin forward to 2
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#18 deactivated-58319077a6477
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[QUOTE="Star650"]

I didn't like Sigma to be honest I still prefer the original on the xbox.

doobie1975

what did you find that was differant

Well to tell you the truth playing as Rachel wasn't fun in my opinion, graphically it look great and all but playing as her for me wasn't fun and wasn't as challenging as the original I mean Ninja Gaiden not Black.

Still a great game but the xbox version is the best for me.

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#19 RazMaTaz-1
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It was no good? It was a remake of the game he made :lol:
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#20 Eltroz
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[QUOTE="Eltroz"]Still blows my mind that a game scored AAA 3 different times in two different gens. Just shows you how good of a game NG is.Chutebox

Yea, that game is freaking awesome, although very(can't emphasize that enough) frustrating at times. I know it won't happen, but if they could somehow incorporate a good story in there, watch out.

Edit: It appears today is "quote Eltroz day". Don't know why...

hehe all the quotes are cool. They give me something to do while I wait to join my battlegrounds in warcraft by responding lol
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#21 darthogre
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I think that is hiliarious.....insulting his own game? fanboyism to a new level.
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#22 the1stfandb
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He didn't even metion 360 or ps3, all he said is that the remake was "no good" for the next generation, because it didn't evolve.

More less he said NG2>NGS,NGB,NG, which is expected. Maybe a better word would have been "last gen"

PS: this is just my take on it after reading it, I may be wrong he might just hate Sony or ps3 :|:(

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#23 II_Seraphim_II
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So he is pissed off that his sub-ordinates made a game that is just as good as his? Glad to know he revels in his entire dev teams success :? I mean when you say sumthing so negative about something made by one of your collegues...Im not sure it helps the working environment.
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#24 DouglasBuffone
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I liked the game, but I can totally see his point
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#25 dark-warmachine
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That was expected, we all know itagaki is a BIG xbox fanboy and a BIG ps brand hater.
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#26 Lance_Kalzas
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I don't think that's it. I think he would have wanted NG Sigma to evolve in some way and since it didn't, in his personal opinion, it wasn't good enough. I can understand that.
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#27 rgame1
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you want evolution, make it for wii.
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#28 SecretPolice
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You just gotta love Itagaki, who else in a similar position would publicly say such a thing - he is such a rebel ! :D

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#29 thegoldenpoo
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That was expected, we all know itagaki is a BIG xbox fanboy and a BIG ps brand hater.dark-warmachine

its amazing how often this is said about nearly every site.

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#30 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="dark-warmachine"]That was expected, we all know itagaki is a BIG xbox fanboy and a BIG ps brand hater.thegoldenpoo

its amazing how often this is said about nearly every site.

Itagaki isn't a site.

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#31 Lionheart08
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Geez, I guess that makes him the Kojima for MS. I guess anything below a 9.4 is a failure for him.
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#32 player_leo
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What will be the next Alma ? Is it the spider creature, or the dragon creature? Maybe he thought Sigma was no good because he wanted more characters like Alma that are near impossible to beat unless you ascended to the next level of super saiyan.
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#33 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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I think that is hiliarious.....insulting his own game? fanboyism to a new level.darthogre
hmmm reminds me of a certain dev's quote for another game *cough* MGS *cough* that cows were praising for him being humble ... :P
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#34 astiop
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"Tekken sucks."

"HS seems half assed"

"NG:S is no good'

"*insert dmc 4 hate*"

...I keep thinking of what Kojima said about modesty and laugh every time Itagaki gets interviewed.

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#35 LordoftheVacas
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I agree with him,his sub ordinate only added extra content,bumped up the graphics and fixed the controls for ps3 version,is not like ninja gaiden 2 that is built it from the ground up.
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#36 II_Seraphim_II
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I agree with him,his sub ordinate only added extra content,bumped up the graphics and fixed the controls for ps3 version,is not like ninja gaiden 2 that is built it from the ground up.LordoftheVacas

but thats enough considering the majority of PS2 owners never played NG on Xbox, and the majority of PS3 owners prolly have never played NG either, so it feels fresh to them.

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#38 Ibacai
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Well of course your subordinate tried to copy the original....It's a freaking remake. :| All in all he might have really not liked it or this is just to hype up NG2 by downplaying Sigma. Either way I'm excited for NG2.
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#39 ProductNumber49
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He has long hair,black shades and creepy skin...He must be right!
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#40 DivineSword  Moderator
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Wow if he's trying to hype Ninja Gaiden II by insulting Sigma then that's pretty low, but either way I am very excited about Ninja Gaiden II. Hopefully what he say about this is true.
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#41 Great_Ragnarok
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http://www.joystiq.com/2008/05/21/itagaki-ninja-gaiden-sigma-is-no-good/

"We thought Ninja Gaiden Sigma was pretty good. You know, nothing revolutionary, but at least worth a spin for PS3 owners, especially those who hadn't played through Ninja Gaiden. But we've just received word (via CVG) from Ninja GaidenI and II developer Tomonobu Itagaki that we're wrong, wrong, totally wrong.

When asked about the game, Itagaki said simply, "It was no good." Apparently not into the whole brevity thing, CVG continued the line of questioning, prompting Itagaki to add, "Despite the fact that it's on a 'next-generation' console there's no evolution whatsoever. That was made not by me, but one of my sub-ordinates who basically tried to copy the success of Ninja Gaiden." You think that's pretty rough, right? Well get this: That guy was sitting next to him. And he was making Itagaki a fancy birthday cake. No, that stuff isn't true. But it's still fairly icy.

Oh, and he dropped a preemptive burn, saying that a PS3 port of Ninja Gaiden II"would be a loss of face for everyone involved." ... So, yeah. Remind us not to cut him off in traffic."

poor guy :cry:

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#42 Lab392
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It's Itagaki.WINDWAKER1

*Bing Bing Bing!* We have a winner!

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#43 Great_Ragnarok
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you want evolution, make it for wii.rgame1

oh god NO! that is a bad idea! unless they acheive 1:1 motion control perfectly, theres no way a fast game like this will make it.

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#44 Mau-Justice
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The guy is basically saying he does not like remakes and thats awesome...Are you people so used to EA and Capcom that remakes have become a good thing in your eyes?rzepak

Don't ever compare Capcom to EA...I don't see how they are the same all, one constantly makes great games, and the other makes the same game over and over.

The biggest difference is, Capcom remakes have changes in them, it's a 1 time port (Mostly to Wii) and actually worked well. Ea's remakes are games they have been redoing since the 90's.

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#45 dark-warmachine
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If he would had wanted NGS to evolve in some way, he would had taken a little part in the project like how the original God of War developer did with GoW2. And I don't understand why people are comparing a remake(NGS) to brand new game (NG2). Also NG2 will be a game everyone we will be looking forward to.
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#46 BigJ411
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All I know is that Sigma was a fantastic update to the already amazing Black, so if Itagaki thinks Sigma wasn't good then Ninja Gaiden 2 better make my balls fall off just playing it.
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#47 finalfantasy94
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He is just saying its not good because its the same game from the xbox with nicer graphics. Thats it.
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#48 Great_Ragnarok
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All I know is that Sigma was a fantastic update to the already amazing Black, so if Itagaki thinks Sigma wasn't good then Ninja Gaiden 2 better make my balls fall off just playing it.BigJ411

having ur balls fall off is good? :S ouch,

and Finalfantasy94 is absolutely right! the reason it got high reviews is because its on a different platform and wasn't meant for people who played the original!

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#49 heretrix
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Itagaki is hilarious.
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#50 clintos59
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He sure talks alot of crap and about his own fellow co workers who work on the same games he does. This guy is a great dev but ever since he bragged about how ninja gaiden 2 would make other developers feel bad because ninja gaiden 2 would be a graphical leep from what they were doing, he has looked pretty dumb now since alot of games already look superior graphically to his game. Also I dont like how he puts down his own co workers, just shows that he is the type to take all the credit when really he aint the one doing everything in ninja gaiden 2. Give them there respect loud mouth and be happy they tried there best. Anyways this game will rock but itagaki is to up himself, its just funny, lol.