It's pretty lame how we're arguing over who is the #2 console...

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#1 v61k
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give credit where credit is due..i own a Wii (as well as a PS3) and i absolutely hate it to death. i haven't touched it since, i think, last november and still haven't beaten zelda. but that still doesn't take away from the fact that they are destroying everything else in existence.

so what are we arguiing over again?
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#2 killab2oo5
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xD Well,I think everyone knows Wii is destined for 1st,so theres no point in arguing about first.
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#3 SolidSnake35
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In sales, sure, but not in terms of games, quality, hardware etc etc etc.
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#4 Meu2k7
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Games are more important to use gamers, Nintendo is NO.1 in the sales department, but erm, so far it hasnt proved that Sales = Better system for gamers ...

its PC > 360 > Wii > PS3 so far all-round I would say.

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#5 Dasacant
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If you only care about sales I guess so.
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#6 Floppy_Jim
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The other two are destroying it in games, so who cares?
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#7 Fiji-Water
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theres no point in arguing over any of the "places" they come in.....they're just game consoles....how bout these people play them all instead of trying to convince themselves the other one (which they dont have) sucks....
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#8 ImaPirate0202
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According to these forums we rank systems by the score of their games. So actually the 360 is in first place here.
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#9 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Britney Spears sold how many albums? Sales =/= Quality.

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#10 Thebettertwin
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its pretty lame how you think wii is no.1 cos of sales
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#12 Kritical_Strike
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The real question is, do we value games or sales more?
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#13 bluewrxman
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you're pretty lame because your starting the argument again...
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#14 X_Evo
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According to these forums we rank systems by the score of their games. So actually the 360 is in first place here.ImaPirate0202

Since when? The determining factor in which console "wins" the war goes by who has the most market share, can't change the rules just because the Wii is number 1.

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#15 SolidSnake35
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[QUOTE="ImaPirate0202"]According to these forums we rank systems by the score of their games. So actually the 360 is in first place here.X_Evo

Since when? The determining factor in which console "wins" the war goes by who has the most market share, can't change the rules just because the Wii is number 1.

In which case, we shouldn't care what the "best" console is.
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#16 deactivated-5dd711115e664
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give credit where credit is due..i own a Wii (as well as a PS3) and i absolutely hate it to death. i haven't touched it since, i think, last november and still haven't beaten zelda. but that still doesn't take away from the fact that they are destroying everything else in existence.

so what are we arguiing over again?v61k

Uhmmm....the number 2 spot is still up in the air. Why we would be arguing about the Wii when it is in a very comfortable first. It would be like arguing over what colour the sky is. it is pointless.

But I seem to recall not too long ago a number of debates from the sheep when they were fighting for #2 against the lemmings last gen. I don't recall ANY of them praising the PS2 for its accomplishments. Instead there was just PS2 hatred.

p.s. I have a Wii and I enjoy it.

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#17 Meu2k7
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[QUOTE="ImaPirate0202"]According to these forums we rank systems by the score of their games. So actually the 360 is in first place here.X_Evo

Since when? The determining factor in which console "wins" the war goes by who has the most market share, can't change the rules just because the Wii is number 1.

No ... CaseyWegner keeps debunking this, the Rules are OVERALL not one section, Games library is very very important, features is important, online is important.

Sales is the least important unless it brings great things.

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Games are more important to use gamers, Nintendo is NO.1 in the sales department, but erm, so far it hasnt proved that Sales = Better system for gamers ...

its PC > 360 > Wii > PS3 so far all-round I would say.

Meu2k7

Wii has better games than PS3? Get real.

Ur forgetting all those AAA multiplats PS3 has that wii doesnt

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#19 shadow_hosi
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Isnt it even worse that your all arguing over the #2 system?

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#20 ImaPirate0202
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[QUOTE="ImaPirate0202"]According to these forums we rank systems by the score of their games. So actually the 360 is in first place here.X_Evo

Since when? The determining factor in which console "wins" the war goes by who has the most market share, can't change the rules just because the Wii is number 1.

Since as long as I can remember. It's how we ranked last generation PC > PS2 > Xbox > Gamecube... I think that's how the order went.

Sales don't do much for us gamers, so why should we care who's selling the most? We should care which produces the best games.

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#21 Meu2k7
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[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

Games are more important to use gamers, Nintendo is NO.1 in the sales department, but erm, so far it hasnt proved that Sales = Better system for gamers ...

its PC > 360 > Wii > PS3 so far all-round I would say.

therealmcc0y

Wii has better games than PS3? Get real.

Ur forgetting all those AAA multiplats PS3 has that wii doesnt

If I can get them elsewhere then they dont mean that much, on the other hand the Wii has a solid first party lineup , PS3 may suprass it in games eventually, but not at the present...

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#22 Kritical_Strike
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In terms of games, Wii is actually the WORST console, yet sheep claim it's the best because a few million casuals bought it out of ignorance (or because traditional gaming intimidated them). Last gen Sheep couldn't stop gloating about their amazing library and how it trounced most of the competition, yet now it's all about sales, what the hell happened?
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#23 ImaPirate0202
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[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

Games are more important to use gamers, Nintendo is NO.1 in the sales department, but erm, so far it hasnt proved that Sales = Better system for gamers ...

its PC > 360 > Wii > PS3 so far all-round I would say.

therealmcc0y

Wii has better games than PS3? Get real.

Ur forgetting all those AAA multiplats PS3 has that wii doesnt

Multiplats don't hold nearly as much ground as exclusives do.

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#24 therealmcc0y
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[QUOTE="therealmcc0y"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

Games are more important to use gamers, Nintendo is NO.1 in the sales department, but erm, so far it hasnt proved that Sales = Better system for gamers ...

its PC > 360 > Wii > PS3 so far all-round I would say.

Meu2k7

Wii has better games than PS3? Get real.

Ur forgetting all those AAA multiplats PS3 has that wii doesnt

If I can get them elsewhere then they dont mean that much

What because you say so? BS

PS3 has AAA games that the wii doesnt have at all

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#25 The_Crucible
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To most of us, it demonstrates the illegitimacy of sales when compared to the quality the #2 and #3 console provide. Most of us don't believe Nintendo is in the same fight. And that would be the case no matter how Wii was selling.
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#26 Meu2k7
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[QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="therealmcc0y"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

Games are more important to use gamers, Nintendo is NO.1 in the sales department, but erm, so far it hasnt proved that Sales = Better system for gamers ...

its PC > 360 > Wii > PS3 so far all-round I would say.

therealmcc0y

Wii has better games than PS3? Get real.

Ur forgetting all those AAA multiplats PS3 has that wii doesnt

If I can get them elsewhere then they dont mean that much

What because you say so? BS

PS3 has AAA games that the wii doesnt have at all

Because if you are a multiple console owner they mean SQUAT especially being inferior versions to the other 2 systems...

Take off the fanboy gogglez.

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#27 SambaLele
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because that's just how reality is. some things we can fight against, other things not. the wii is selling faster than the PS2 sold. the 360 is selling at the same speed as the first xbox (and it's sales are decreasing), the PS3 is selling a bit better than the first xbox (with sales increasing). They can only fight each other.
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#28 ChinoJamesKeene
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NO THE PS2 IS No1! right now the wii cannot catch up to such a large install base.
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#29 therealmcc0y
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[QUOTE="therealmcc0y"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="therealmcc0y"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

Games are more important to use gamers, Nintendo is NO.1 in the sales department, but erm, so far it hasnt proved that Sales = Better system for gamers ...

its PC > 360 > Wii > PS3 so far all-round I would say.

Meu2k7

Wii has better games than PS3? Get real.

Ur forgetting all those AAA multiplats PS3 has that wii doesnt

If I can get them elsewhere then they dont mean that much

What because you say so? BS

PS3 has AAA games that the wii doesnt have at all

Because if you are a multiple console owner they mean SQUAT especially being inferior versions to the other 2 systems...

Take off the fanboy gogglez.

Were talking about PS3 vs Wii, not wether you have multiple consoles.

PS3 has more AAA games than wii. period

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#30 Airacomet
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We went by sales last gen, why is the rule changing just because Wii is winning?
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#31 m_machine024
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So the Wii having the worse library is a fact? Didn't know.
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#32 ImaPirate0202
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We went by sales last gen, why is the rule changing just because Wii is winning?Airacomet

No we didn't:?

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#33 Meu2k7
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[QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="therealmcc0y"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="therealmcc0y"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

Games are more important to use gamers, Nintendo is NO.1 in the sales department, but erm, so far it hasnt proved that Sales = Better system for gamers ...

its PC > 360 > Wii > PS3 so far all-round I would say.

therealmcc0y

Wii has better games than PS3? Get real.

Ur forgetting all those AAA multiplats PS3 has that wii doesnt

If I can get them elsewhere then they dont mean that much

What because you say so? BS

PS3 has AAA games that the wii doesnt have at all

Because if you are a multiple console owner they mean SQUAT especially being inferior versions to the other 2 systems...

Take off the fanboy gogglez.

Were talking about PS3 vs Wii, not wether you have multiple consoles.

PS3 has more AAA games than wii. period

Tough luck really, the Wii still wins ATM.

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#34 mjarantilla
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In sales, sure, but not in terms of games, quality, hardware etc etc etc.SolidSnake35

Games and quality always follows sales.

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The new line here is that the wii is the first in sales but dead last in games.

Let me ask this: when in the history of video games has the #1 console in sales not been #1 in games as well? How about never. As much as people would like to pretend that this industry isn't about money, it really is. Now that the wii is the number 1 hardware and software seller, I dont think it is possible for wii not to quickly catch up and overtake the ps3 and 360 in quality games total.

but you're right for now. The wii is probably the worst for games right now, although the ps3 is not much better

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#36 VirtuaCast
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Sales are pretty important, just look at the Dreramcast. R.I.P

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#37 nervmeister
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Britney Spears sold how many albums? Sales =/= Quality.

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That's almost sig-worthy. Well put.
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The new line here is that the wii is the first in sales but dead last in games.

Let me ask this: when in the history of video games has the #1 console in sales not been #1 in games as well? How about never. As much as people would like to pretend that this industry isn't about money, it really is. Now that the wii is the number 1 hardware and software seller, I dont think it is possible for wii not to quickly catch up and overtake the ps3 and 360 in quality games total.

but you're right for now. The wii is probably the worst for games right now, although the ps3 is not much better

GunSmith1_basic
Totally agreed.
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#39 mjarantilla
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

Britney Spears sold how many albums? Sales =/= Quality.

nervmeister

That's almost sig-worthy. Well put.

It's sig-worthy because it's such a damn stupid statement, not because it's smart or clever.

Music comparisons don't make sense, anyway. Music artists don't compete with one another in the way consoles do. You can own a Britney Spears album, and you still probably wouldn't think twice before buying a Ramones album or something. Or even a ****cal string quartet CD. Or a Bob Marley CD. But if someone buys a 360, chances are he's not going to buy a Wii or PS3 the very next day, or in the same purchase.

Stop using dumb music analogies.

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Games are more important to use gamers, Nintendo is NO.1 in the sales department, but erm, so far it hasnt proved that Sales = Better system for gamers ...

its PC > 360 > Wii > PS3 so far all-round I would say.

Meu2k7
pc has lmae sales. by the way mobile cell phone gaming has the most sales even more then pc. you also forgot the insane sales of the ds fastest selling system ever
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#41 iamanoobkillme
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[QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"]

The new line here is that the wii is the first in sales but dead last in games.

Let me ask this: when in the history of video games has the #1 console in sales not been #1 in games as well? How about never. As much as people would like to pretend that this industry isn't about money, it really is. Now that the wii is the number 1 hardware and software seller, I dont think it is possible for wii not to quickly catch up and overtake the ps3 and 360 in quality games total.

but you're right for now. The wii is probably the worst for games right now, although the ps3 is not much better

Greyhound222
Totally agreed.

Not all people juge games by our hard core way. many people are happy to play a simple game like endles ocean or brain age. by the way ps3 has no aaa titles and wii does have them so how is it ps3>wii in games?
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#42 Meu2k7
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[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

Games are more important to use gamers, Nintendo is NO.1 in the sales department, but erm, so far it hasnt proved that Sales = Better system for gamers ...

its PC > 360 > Wii > PS3 so far all-round I would say.

iamanoobkillme

pc has lmae sales. by the way mobile cell phone gaming has the most sales even more then pc. you also forgot the insane sales of the ds fastest selling system ever

:roll whatever that "fact" is blown out of ignorance, and has even been corrected by NPD themselves.

Again sales dont make the best system.

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#43 iamanoobkillme
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[QUOTE="iamanoobkillme"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

Games are more important to use gamers, Nintendo is NO.1 in the sales department, but erm, so far it hasnt proved that Sales = Better system for gamers ...

its PC > 360 > Wii > PS3 so far all-round I would say.

Meu2k7

pc has lmae sales. by the way mobile cell phone gaming has the most sales even more then pc. you also forgot the insane sales of the ds fastest selling system ever

:roll whatever that "fact" is blown out of ignorance, and has even been corrected by NPD themselves.

Again sales dont make the best system.

First off you can't compare pc to consoles. so if sales dont matter why even bring up how great pc does? the wii has two of the highest rated games of all time on it zelda oot and mario galaxy . What does make a good console? graphics? then i guess with gt5 and uncharted makes ps3 the best. If you look at hardware pc is way more expensive to get those high in graphics. the 360 hardware is a gimped pc that breaks all the time .
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#44 shadowfox55
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[QUOTE="iamanoobkillme"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

Games are more important to use gamers, Nintendo is NO.1 in the sales department, but erm, so far it hasnt proved that Sales = Better system for gamers ...

its PC > 360 > Wii > PS3 so far all-round I would say.

Meu2k7

pc has lmae sales. by the way mobile cell phone gaming has the most sales even more then pc. you also forgot the insane sales of the ds fastest selling system ever

:roll whatever that "fact" is blown out of ignorance, and has even been corrected by NPD themselves.

Again sales dont make the best system.

Sales can hurt a system though. Look at the Sega Dreamcast and Atari.

Also can someone count the amount of triple A games the PS3 and Wii has ( Overall). Finally only fanboys argue about these sort of things without getting off the computer going outside or playing a video game. Get a grip people and grow up.

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#45 bezaire2005
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give credit where credit is due..i own a Wii (as well as a PS3) and i absolutely hate it to death. i haven't touched it since, i think, last november and still haven't beaten zelda. but that still doesn't take away from the fact that they are destroying everything else in existence.

so what are we arguiing over again?v61k

there's a difference between wii gamers and 360/ps3 gamers. Someone who is used to playing ps3/360 games are not going to be really satisified with the wii library, and vice versa. So while kids and anime-loving gamers are buying the wii at record amounts, why should I care? NOthing that compares to Gears of War or Halo 3 or Assasins Creed, GTA4 is available on the Wii, and those are the games I love. NOt to mention the fact that there are very few major sports games propertly represented, which I also love to play.

It's the #1 selling console...whatever. Why should I care? I'm not going to go out and buy a console just because it sold the most, and than get stuck with wario world and friggin super paper mario. It doesn't work like that....at least in my opinion. Admittedly, you seemed to have fallen into the Wii hype and you have seemingly wasted a few hundred bucks. I wont' do the same, and instead i'll just stick with the console that has the games that I want to play. I really don't care if that console comes in #1, #2,#3, even #50.

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#46 clone01
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I guess I'm in the minority, but I actually like a lot of the games for it. Just personal preference, but from a gameplay (not graphics) perspective, I'll take SMG and No More Heroes over Uncharted and COD4 any day.
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PC is #1
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[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

Games are more important to use gamers, Nintendo is NO.1 in the sales department, but erm, so far it hasnt proved that Sales = Better system for gamers ...

its PC > 360 > Wii > PS3 so far all-round I would say.

iamanoobkillme

pc has lmae sales. by the way mobile cell phone gaming has the most sales even more then pc. you also forgot the insane sales of the ds fastest selling system ever

lol just lol, look at the little article on GS about blizzard *a pc only company* hitting 1.5billion in revenue. Remember the NPD has pc at 9.2million or something like that .

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#49 Eddie-Vedder
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Games are more important to use gamers, Nintendo is NO.1 in the sales department, but erm, so far it hasnt proved that Sales = Better system for gamers ...

its PC > 360 > Wii > PS3 so far all-round I would say.

Meu2k7

Wii has better games then ps3? Your delusional, check any game site on the planet tally up the scores and tell me your sure about that.

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#50 jangojay
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[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

Games are more important to use gamers, Nintendo is NO.1 in the sales department, but erm, so far it hasnt proved that Sales = Better system for gamers ...

its PC > 360 > Wii > PS3 so far all-round I would say.

Eddie-Vedder

Wii has better games then ps3? Your delusional, check any game site on the planet tally up the scores and tell me your sure about that.

Multiplats account for a large number of ps3s games. That's why he put the Wii above it due to exclusives.