Japanese Devs Not Impressed By PS4

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#1 black_chamber99
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anyone else get the feeling they're a little bitter the PS4 was made to cater to western devs who had an awful time learning ps3 due to their experience working with pcs? a lot seem surprised (and not really in a good way) how simplifed and scaled-down the ps4 architecture ended up being

 

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Level 5 Game Director, Jiro Ishii

1. "I was surprised that the PlayStation, which has always maintained a sharp image, was taking a cost-performance-focused strategy. This made me both happy and sad."

2. "I have high expectations for their strong appeal as 'hardware that's easy to develop for.' I'd like to know how the Share button is going to change game promotion and gameplay. I'm very interested."

3. "Could the Share button change the way adventure games are played? It's easy to imagine its use for games with strong contingent game design like action games and stealth games, but with adventure games, that focus on showing a story, it feels like it would lead to story spoilers or making players feel like they've played the game just by watching. Still, there must be stories that can be expanded because they can be shared. Like a group piece where different protagonists are connected with the Share button and change the fate of the world I'd like to try to make such a game scenario."
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Tecmo Koei Games Producer, Hisashi Koinuma

1. "My initial impressions of the PS4 were that it is a 'true network game machine.'

2. "The focus on sharing experiences. I was also intrigued by the ability to use the PS Vita, smart phones, or tablets as a second screen."

3. "Normally, in order to talk about games with friends or family, you need them nearby. I believe users will be able to have meaningful communication with other users through the network, even from their own homes. I'd like to make a game that would make user participation in multi-player more fun, even if it's not in realtime."
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Acquire CEO, Takuma Endou

1. "My impression of the hardware was, simply put, "chock-full." It has power, memory, a camera it's the ultimate form of a game machine that can do anything. If I were to say anything negative, it would be that it was very hard to tell what made it unique."

2. "How few limitations there were. As a developer, the fewer limitations a console, the easier it is to develop for, so that helps a lot. On the other hand, without limitations, it may be harder to create a 'selling point.'"

3. "Since I don't think we can win in a battle of high quality graphics, I'd like a game that creatively uses the network functions and isn't too heavy or long. My desire to make a game that can sell on its ideas and entertainment was reinvigorated."
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Platinum Games Producer, Atsushi Inaba

1. "I got the impression that the competitive field for consoles is moving from basic performance specs to peripheral services."

2. "I'm not that interested in hardware specs like graphic processing. Of course, I thought [the PS4's specs] were quite impressive, but you can't win in a competition against PC gaming specs that are constantly evolving. I felt a great deal of potential in the peripheral stage that has been set to make use of new content. I'm also very interested in seeing what sort of reference content SCE will be bringing out so that the vision they have for the hardware is not diluted."

3. "If we can fully exploit the peripheral services, we may be able to deliver a different 'virtual world' from the previous consoles. I'd like to try that approach."
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Capcom Producer, Hiroyuki Kobayashi

1. "I was actually at the PlayStation Meeting 2013 where they announced it. When the PS4 logo appeared, I had the standard 'Yes! At last it's officially been announced!' sort of response, as well as wondering what sort of games would come out. As a user, I was very excited."

2. "The high quality graphics and the processing power are obviously very promising, but I was also interested in how the PS4 would integrate social aspects and link with mobile platforms. The announced titles seem to take good advantage of the PS4's functions and specs and show a lot of different potential directions to take. I think we'll see a wider variety of titles than we did with the PS3."

3. "The PS4's social connectivity functions will allow for many users to share their gameplay. The question is how to integrate this showing and viewing of gameplay within the game. How will users play with this function? Like a video arcade? Like YouTube? There are a lot of potential ideas. I think this will change the game experience a great deal. It's going to make figuring out what sort of services creators should offer users more challenging. I'd like to create something that will offer a new gaming experience."
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Konami Digital Entertainment Kojima Production Creative Producer, Yuji Korekado

1. "The architecture was simpler than I thought it'd be. It seemed like the hardware specs are evolving as expected, with expansion beyond the hardware itself in mind."

2. "The PlayStation App and the Share button. With the increased processing power, more realtime processing is possible and character AI can be more complex. Games will be about individual players enjoying different experiences each time they play. The ability to easily share each experience through video or gameplay anywhere was incredibly innovative."

3. "Looking at the specs alone, where we used to show particle movements and flow for things like smoke, dust, and water currents by arranging patterns, we'll be able to have them processed in realtime. This will obviously help with visual effects, but can also be used to create new gameplay elements, like how we used the free slicing in Metal Gear Rising as a core gameplay element. I'd also like to focus on services that would emerge from the ability to connect from different platforms, anytime and anywhere."

 

http://kotaku.com/5990489/japanese-developers-weigh-in-on-the-ps4

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#2 rilpas
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many of these comments were actually really positive. So if anything you should change the thread tittle to "opinions are mixed"

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#3 Capitan_Kid
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Nearly all of those comments were positive. Are you blind?
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#6 BigBoss255
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The Japanese? Those sandal wearing ..,
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I like cats
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#8 lx_theo
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That's quite the spin on the thread title.

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Very true... Considering only a couple are remotely negative, a good number are positive, and the rest are neutral.
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#9 Kingpin0114
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TC, did you even read the comments?

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#10 mariokart64fan
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positive negative it does not matter , the price is going to be expensive

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#11 Nintendo_Ownes7
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TC, did you even read the comments?

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I think he only read the first comment.

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#12 senses_fail_06
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positive negative it does not matter , the price is going to be expensive

mariokart64fan
Good things almost always cost more money. The PS3 is testament to that.
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#13 finalstar2007
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Um.. they seem more happy than not impressed

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#14 KBFloYd
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yea...everyone was saying its just a gimped PC...and nothing special...

all the positive comments were about the stupid share button LOL

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#15 hexashadow13
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The only possibly negative comment is the first one, and even that's mixed. The hell are you smoking?
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#16 Kingpin0114
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I see sheep are still damage controlling about the PS4. It will only get worse when the nextbox is revealed.

Poor souls.

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#17 DarkLink77
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Most of them seemed pretty happy about it, or indifferent. Misleading thread title is misleading.

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#18 whiskeystrike
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You'd make a good journalist TC

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#19 black_chamber99
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You'd make a good journalist TC

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its my major :)

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That moment when the TC doesnt read his own OP or sources

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#21 Mrmedia01
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So like they are happy with the PS4. Maybe not over hyped about it but not mad. OP What? How not impressed?

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#22 nextgenjoke
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ps4 has the most powerful apu ever created at this point.

custom apu.

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#23 AznbkdX
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Or maybe he did read it and he expected us to fall for it! :shock:

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#24 JohnF111
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positive negative it does not matter , the price is going to be expensive

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I agree it won't be cheap, it will be cheaper than PS3 but not Wii U cheap, possibly £350 which is kinda at the top end of my set budget, if it costs more than I'll wait.. I don't mind waiting.
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#25 JohnF111
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[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"]

You'd make a good journalist TC

black_chamber99

 

its my major :)

Yeah the title does bring in the traffic and then the post itself is completely the opposite, purely a traffic magnet post where most readers go "Ugh.. money grabbing websites just wanted me to click". So yeah go join the thousands of other journalists that do the same thing, hope you succeed.
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#26 GulliversTravel
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many of these comments were actually really positive. So if anything you should change the thread tittle to "opinions are mixed"

rilpas
Thats what I was thinking:?
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#27 deactivated-5acbb9993d0bd
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The first number 3 is a prime example of how different and irrelevant their opinions are to most of us. Steaming and recording games is a VERY popular thing,and funnily enough poeple LIKE to watch games... shocking I know.
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#28 rjdofu
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[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"]

You'd make a good journalist TC

black_chamber99

 

its my major :)

God no....
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#29 Yangire
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[QUOTE="black_chamber99"]

[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"]

You'd make a good journalist TC

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its my major :)

God no....

Titles that deceive people and try to grab their attention? Sounds like he's learning well.

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#30 campzor
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do you even read before you post TC?
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#31 gamefan67
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Most of those are either positive (towards the networking capabilities) or neutral.
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#32 Lotus-Edge
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yea...everyone was saying its just a gimped PC...and nothing special...

all the positive comments were about the stupid share button LOL

KBFloYd
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#33 Heil68
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TC, did you even read the comments?

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Butt hurt blinds.

positive negative it does not matter , the price is going to be expensive

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Doesn't matter, day fvcking 1.
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#35 Wickerman777
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Hmm, the bulk of those comments didn't seem negative to me. Although there were a few that seemed to be saying that if there isn't something weird in there like Cell then it isn't exciting. And well, that seems like a strange thing to say to me.

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#36 nervmeister
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That's quite the spin on the thread title.

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/this
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#37 rjdofu
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yea...everyone was saying its just a gimped PC...and nothing special...

all the positive comments were about the stupid share button LOL

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It's gonna be better than your sh!tty Wii U that's for sure.
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#38 Psychatog786
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yea...everyone was saying its just a gimped PC...and nothing special...

all the positive comments were about the stupid share button LOL

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Sigh...ALL consoles are gimped PCs. Some more than others.
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#39 Sagem28
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Did you even read the article, OP ?

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"How few limitations there were. As a developer, the fewer limitations a console, the easier it is to develop for, so that helps a lot. On the other hand, without limitations, it may be harder to create a 'selling point.'"

Good job TC..

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#41 dobzilian
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most sounded postive. Suppose it is your perspective in which way to take it.
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#42 g0ddyX
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Japanese Dev's praising the PS4 as well as making games for the PS4.

Troll topic?