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#1 DouglasBuffone
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We've heard an unsettling rumor today from an anonymous tipster that longtime game reviewer Jeff Gerstmann from Gamespot has been let go. That wouldn't necessarily be newsworthy, but the conditions under which he was allegedly dismissed were. According to the source, Gerstmann was fired "on the spot" due to advertiser pressure for his review of Eidos' Kane & Lynch: Dead Men. A visit to Gamespot shows that the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 game has taken over the site very prominently, with backgrounds and multiple banner ads all pitching Kane & Lynch. Allegedly, publisher Eidos "took issue with the review and threatened to pull its ad campaign."

Jeff's review was certainly less than glowing. He assigned the game a 6.0, otherwise known as "Fair" on the Gamespot scale. The game is currently enjoying a Metacritic score in the 65 to 69 range, which the site describes as "mixed or average reviews." According to our tipster, it wasn't necessarily the score that was reason for Gerstmann's rumored axing, but the "tone" of the review.

Gerstmann has been no stranger to controversial reviews, as his scores of 10 for Tony Hawk's Pro Skater and 8.8 for The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess had sensitive internet users up in arms. It's now possible that many bitter fanboys may have had their wishes for his firing granted.

As our tipster points out, if the rumor is true, it could point to a distressing precedent at Gamespot and parent company CNet. "As writers of what is supposed to be objective content, this is our worst nightmare coming to life," wrote the tipster.

Our efforts to confirm the story with Gamespot hasn't proved successful. Our current requests with PR, Gerstmann and other CNet contacts have either gone unanswered or yielded a "no comment."

Source: Kotaku

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#2 Haee
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The rumor = Jeff is or was fired

Source =
http://kotaku.com/gaming/rumor/gamespot-editor-fired-over-kane--lynch-review-328244.php

Denial?
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26072231|

Truth?
http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?p=3689682#post3689682
Gabe : "The comic is true. You should see the news breaking soon."

Further Evidence
1-Cnet has not responded yet

2-No on the spot today

3-Jeff wasnt on the last hotspot..nor did they mention his absence.

In fact why else would the Kane and Lynch's video review be taken off?

Finally
Yeah it's true Jeff is fired.
Dont blame Gamespot, this is Cnet's doing.

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#3 SavageBananaMan
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I propose we use these forums and IGN scores...wow under a year ago i hated IGN...gamespot you have fallen so far in so little time...
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#4 majadamus
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Who do we trust? It's not like any other video game source can be fully trusted.
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#5 killzowned24
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who is jeff, pic please.
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#6 wok7
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It wouldn't hurt to replace all of GameSpot's crappy reviewers.
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#7 Benevolentbob
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Wow, I hope tihs doesn't happen because if they start firing peole because they give games bad scores we can no longer even put the slightest trust in GS reviews.
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#8 Snowboarder99
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I dont get it, he was fired for reviewing the game honestly?
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#9 Taiko88
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Here is a link to the official post. This will be locked soon.

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26072117&page=29

Come join, many are rebelling and canceling their subscriptions. Even the mods are pissed. We are trying to start a petition.

I dont get it, he was fired for reviewing the game honestly?Snowboarder99

Yes.

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#10 MikeE21286
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You beat me to it......SW IS DEAD....sorry guys.

It was fun....Gamerankings = the new standard.

Rules must be re-written. THere is no way you can trust it here anymore.

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#11 beast667
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locked in 3..2..1..
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#12 Taiko88
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You beat me to it......SW IS DEAD....sorry guys.

It was fun....Gamerankings = the new standard.

Rules must be re-written. THere is no way you can trust it here anymore.

MikeE21286

Mike support us, cancel your subscription. At least temporarily :)

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#13 MikeE21286
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who is jeff, pic please.killzowned24

Jeff Gertsman was the Editor-in-Chief here at GS.

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#14 Snowboarder99
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Here is a link to the official post. This will be locked soon.

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26072117&page=29

Come join, many are rebelling and canceling their subscriptions. Even the mods are pissed. We are trying to start a petition.

[QUOTE="Snowboarder99"]I dont get it, he was fired for reviewing the game honestly?Taiko88

Yes.

Thats really messed up. What is the world coming to...

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#15 DrinkDuff
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This is very disappointing, to say the least. I liked Jeff. I really appreciated his reviews. They were often harsh but I found them to be fair and honest most of the time.
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#16 USSJAndrew
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wait, I don't get the problem. When has Eidios ever made a good game? Ever? I haven't played one.

Jeff was a really good reviewer too.

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#17 GunSmith1_basic
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wow I hope he doesn't get fired over that review. I just read it and he never really rips into the game. The review is almost boring

hey, do you think this is because the game is a high profile game? Makes me wonder if GS had a gun to their head when they reviewed Halo3 because that game is great but not 9.5

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#18 Heil68
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Here is a link to the official post. This will be locked soon.

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26072117&page=29

Come join, many are rebelling and canceling their subscriptions. Even the mods are pissed. We are trying to start a petition.

Taiko88
Petition? You serious? :lol:
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#19 -RPGamer-
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It wouldn't hurt to replace all of GameSpot's crappy reviewers.wok7

With what people who speak from their wallet and not their mind? :|

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#20 Taiko88
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[QUOTE="Taiko88"]

Here is a link to the official post. This will be locked soon.

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26072117&page=29

Come join, many are rebelling and canceling their subscriptions. Even the mods are pissed. We are trying to start a petition.

Heil68

Petition? You serious? :lol:

Dead Serious. :|

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#21 MikeE21286
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[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]

You beat me to it......SW IS DEAD....sorry guys.

It was fun....Gamerankings = the new standard.

Rules must be re-written. THere is no way you can trust it here anymore.

Taiko88

Mike support us, cancel your subscription. At least temporarily :)

I did (not based off this) but I don't pay here anymore. I was once a paying member but I cancelled it.

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#22 USSJAndrew
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[QUOTE="Taiko88"]

Here is a link to the official post. This will be locked soon.

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26072117&page=29

Come join, many are rebelling and canceling their subscriptions. Even the mods are pissed. We are trying to start a petition.

Heil68

Petition? You serious? :lol:

Yea, Petition? sorry buddy, but corperate America wins every time ;)

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#23 DaysAirlines
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I actually like Jeff, he's really damn funny.
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#24 darklord888
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I'll never listen to a GS review again if they're being forced into giving crap games good scores.
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#25 Heil68
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Well thats is corporate America, sad but true. As always, we wish Jeff and his family the best of luck in his new endeavors.
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#26 killzowned24
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this should happen to the 1up guys,they trash games the most.
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#27 Blank1921
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Wow, that's pretty big. Gamespot's credibility for reviews = flushed down the toilet.

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#28 kozzy1234
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Poor Jeff....

Is there anyway gamespot can please offer Greg a 6 figure contract to come review here again? please? :D

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#29 Fortier
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For people defending GS because it was CNET's decision...don't. GS submitted to this, and the point remains that they're no longer credible whatsoever. GS could've stood it's ground, but folded and fired Jeff. I'd rather have no site at all than a now-useless site.
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#30 Homesrfan
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wait, I don't get the problem. When has Eidios ever made a good game? Ever? I haven't played one.

Jeff was a really good reviewer too.

USSJAndrew

Tomb Raider...

please play it.

This is so sad though...

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#31 DrinkDuff
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You beat me to it......SW IS DEAD....sorry guys.

It was fun....Gamerankings = the new standard.

Rules must be re-written. THere is no way you can trust it here anymore.

MikeE21286
The forums aren't dead, just GS's credibility.
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#32 USSJAndrew
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Wait, isn't this all speculation as of now? Why are people already getting so serious over it?
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#33 SaintBlaze
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I'll miss Jeff. :(:cry:
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#34 Tactis
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the reason kinda sucks if he got fired for kane and lynch

now zelda yeah totally could see that..

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#35 SmashBrosLegend
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I'm disgusted, but not surprised. I guess that's what happens when you try to show some integrity.
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#36 DaysAirlines
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I don't want Jeff to be fired. He is a great reviewer.
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#37 Blackfriend8
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the hot spot today wasnt the same without jeff he makes the hotspot without him there is nothing.gregk is gone and if jeff really got fired then i wont come here for game reviews anymore. its not even that he got fired its why he got fired the game got pretty low scores everywhere it even got a low score on ign and they had heavy advertising for Kane and lynch to and no one there got fired. cnet and gamespot just lost all credibility if this is true
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#38 DrinkDuff
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I actually like Jeff, he's really damn funny.DaysAirlines
Yeah, his reviews are so harsh but yet so true.
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#39 USSJAndrew
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[QUOTE="USSJAndrew"]

wait, I don't get the problem. When has Eidios ever made a good game? Ever? I haven't played one.

Jeff was a really good reviewer too.

Homesrfan

Tomb Raider...

please play it.

This is so sad though...

How About after the year 2000?

lol that was so long ago I was too young to have an idea who made it. Was a great game though, I really enjoyed it. In fact I was just talking about it today.