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#1 gearspwnflopzon
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I totally agree with this review and this is how i thought. http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/quake4/index.html?tag=result;title;0 Quake 4 The single-player is great fun, but the uninspired multiplayer leaves a lot to be desired. Im not just using his opinion as mine, i thought quake 4 singleplayer was alright could of been better, but the multiplayer just sucked the level design was trash compared to quake 1,2,3.
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why do so many care about this jellofatbastard? Jeff was average and people need to stop boosting his ego. Slambo86
I grew up using this site, and jeff's one of the people i grew up reading reviews from. seeing him=reminds me of gamespot lol he wasnt all that bad, some reviews i dont agree on, but hit nail on head on some.
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#4 Little_B0y_BLUE
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why do so many care about this jellofatbastard? Jeff was average and people need to stop boosting his ego. Slambo86
He was a major Xbox and GTA fanboy also
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The only editor who I kind of cared for was greg kasavin. Jeff could jump in a lake for all I care.

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[QUOTE="Slambo86"]why do so many care about this jellofatbastard? Jeff was average and people need to stop boosting his ego. Little_B0y_BLUE
He was a major Xbox and GTA fanboy also

He reviewed a lot of multiplats and exclusives alike. I think it was him who gave GeoW a 9.6., quite deserving though imo.

Jeff + GregK = the golden ages of gamespot

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#7 gearspwnflopzon
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Quake 4's multiplayer left me disappointed i mean really badly, the level design is simply crap, i mean the maps are so plain and boring holy crap whoever did quake 4 level design needs to be fired, jeff was right. i dunno jeff is one of the reviewers growing up i remember seeing on videos and reviewing games. Hey's it's that gamespot dude! LOL he's like the mascot LOL
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#8 Animal-Mother
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The only editor who I kind of cared for was greg kasavin. Jeff could jump in a lake for all I care.

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Ahh good ol greg, he was a ood one
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#9 SpinoRaptor24
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Didn't care much for him.

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#10 I_Am_Lem
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Me neither,Seems pretty goofy and annoying
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#11 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

The only editor who I kind of cared for was greg kasavin. Jeff could jump in a lake for all I care.

Animal-Mother

Ahh good ol greg, he was a ood one

I noticed that he got most of the huge games that came out around his time.

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#12 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

The only editor who I kind of cared for was greg kasavin. Jeff could jump in a lake for all I care.

finalfantasy94

Ahh good ol greg, he was a ood one

I noticed that he got most of the huge games that came out around his time.

Ya he did some really incredible reviews though. FFX review is just pure awesomness, he was really just a non-biased gamer who really saw games for what they were. Where is he now?
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#13 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Ahh good ol greg, he was a ood oneAnimal-Mother

I noticed that he got most of the huge games that came out around his time.

Ya he did some really incredible reviews though. FFX review is just pure awesomness, he was really just a non-biased gamer who really saw games for what they were. Where is he now?

Making games. He help make the recent red alert. He was even on a ign podcast.

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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Ahh good ol greg, he was a ood oneAnimal-Mother

I noticed that he got most of the huge games that came out around his time.

Ya he did some really incredible reviews though. FFX review is just pure awesomness, he was really just a non-biased gamer who really saw games for what they were. Where is he now?

He works for EA, he helped developed Red Alert 3.
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

I noticed that he got most of the huge games that came out around his time.

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Ya he did some really incredible reviews though. FFX review is just pure awesomness, he was really just a non-biased gamer who really saw games for what they were. Where is he now?

Making games. He help make the recent red alert. He was even on a ign podcast.

Nice good for him. I mean from video reviews you could tell that the man was smart

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#16 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="senses_fail_06"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Ya he did some really incredible reviews though. FFX review is just pure awesomness, he was really just a non-biased gamer who really saw games for what they were. Where is he now?Animal-Mother

Making games. He help make the recent red alert. He was even on a ign podcast.

Nice good for him. I mean from video reviews you could tell that the man was smart

It was just something about his voice. It seemed to montoned and unbias most of the time.

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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

I noticed that he got most of the huge games that came out around his time.

senses_fail_06

Ya he did some really incredible reviews though. FFX review is just pure awesomness, he was really just a non-biased gamer who really saw games for what they were. Where is he now?

He works for EA, he helped developed Red Alert 3.

Game critic? Worked on Red Alert 3? Then why isn't it good?

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[QUOTE="Little_B0y_BLUE"][QUOTE="Slambo86"]why do so many care about this jellofatbastard? Jeff was average and people need to stop boosting his ego. PSdual_wielder

He was a major Xbox and GTA fanboy also

He reviewed a lot of multiplats and exclusives alike. I think it was him who gave GeoW a 9.6., quite deserving though imo.

Jeff + GregK = the golden ages of gamespot

lol golden age? it wasnt that long ago
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[QUOTE="PSdual_wielder"]

[QUOTE="Little_B0y_BLUE"] He was a major Xbox and GTA fanboy alsoMetallicaKings

He reviewed a lot of multiplats and exclusives alike. I think it was him who gave GeoW a 9.6., quite deserving though imo.

Jeff + GregK = the golden ages of gamespot

lol golden age? it wasnt that long ago

Two-four years ago, better than now. :|
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#20 Archaic8
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Jeff was a pretty cool guy. So it was a shame he had to let his Xbox bias get in the way of his profession. If you take a look at Giant Bomb its clear which console they favour.

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#21 Grinning_Demon
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Jeff was awfull, and now we have to put up with that idiot in GiantBomb. He just wont go away
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#22 yoyo462001
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Jeff was a pretty cool guy. So it was a shame he had to let his Xbox bias get in the way of his profession. If you take a look at Giant Bomb its clear which console they favour.

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How? there reviews are alot better than GS imo, i see no bias in jeffs old reviews at all could someone show me a Ps3 he scored low because this is bias.
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[QUOTE="Grinning_Demon"]Jeff was awfull, and now we have to put up with that idiot in GiantBomb. He just wont go away

other reviewers lack a personality greg.k is one of them and the guy who reviewed gears2 lacks personality also
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#24 Arjdagr8
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giant bomb reviews, podcasts, videos > gamespots reviews, podcasts, videos. Only redeeming feature of gamespot is the forums.

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#25 gearspwnflopzon
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I mean they talk boring^^ in their video reviews, jeffs kinda funny.
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#26 Grinning_Demon
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Say what you want about IGN, but atleast they have Bozon...and Cassamassassamassina, when he isnt pushing his stupid agenda. Best talking reviews are from Gametrailers though (IMO).
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He gave Twilight Princess the score it deserves. Seriously, that game sucks. CNET only fired him because he was too 'honest' about the games he reviewed. They wanted it 'sugar-coated,' but Jeff only came in 'plain.' Apparently, 'integrity' is out of style.
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he make 50 cent blood on the sand seem decent. This review > any other blood on the sand review :lol:

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[QUOTE="true-satanist"]He gave Twilight Princess the score it deserves. Seriously, that game sucks.

8.8 games suck now? [QUOTE="true-satanist"] CNET only fired him because he was too 'honest' about the games he reviewed. They wanted it 'sugar-coated,' but Jeff only came in 'plain.' Apparently, 'integrity' is out of style.

Wait, but if TP sucked then Jeff the Hut should've given it a 5.0. Therefore your argument is invalid, Jeff has no integrity and he should be friyng chips at Mcdonalds.
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#30 yoyo462001
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giant bomb reviews, podcasts, videos > gamespots reviews, podcasts, videos. Only redeeming feature of gamespot is the forums.

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Very true, once GB gets bigger as in forums i doubt ill be here much.
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#32 Arjdagr8
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[QUOTE="Arjdagr8"]

giant bomb reviews, podcasts, videos > gamespots reviews, podcasts, videos. Only redeeming feature of gamespot is the forums.

yoyo462001
Very true, once GB gets bigger as in forums i doubt ill be here much.

same. have you seen TANG? where they review video game movies. They even have that question of the week thing where users submit there own answers and then they make a montage of all the answers at the end of the week. The podcasts are hilarious, their reviews are a lot better (not just relying on some score) and the videos they make are hilarious.
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he failed at his job so he got fired.

its so simple :roll:

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[QUOTE="Little_B0y_BLUE"][QUOTE="Slambo86"]why do so many care about this jellofatbastard? Jeff was average and people need to stop boosting his ego. PSdual_wielder

He was a major Xbox and GTA fanboy also

He reviewed a lot of multiplats and exclusives alike. I think it was him who gave GeoW a 9.6., quite deserving though imo.

Jeff + GregK = the golden ages of gamespot

Hah, You thought Gears deserved a 9.6. Very funny. Bare-bones multiplayer and glitches? No, thanks. Most it should have gotten was a 9.
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[QUOTE="Grinning_Demon"][QUOTE="true-satanist"]He gave Twilight Princess the score it deserves. Seriously, that game sucks.

8.8 games suck now? [QUOTE="true-satanist"] CNET only fired him because he was too 'honest' about the games he reviewed. They wanted it 'sugar-coated,' but Jeff only came in 'plain.' Apparently, 'integrity' is out of style.

Wait, but if TP sucked then Jeff the Hut should've given it a 5.0. Therefore your argument is invalid, Jeff has no integrity and he should be friyng chips at Mcdonalds.

For a Zelda game, 8.8 is a bad score. We expect Zelda games to be really good, especially the main title ones released for the console. Games like Zelda and Mario and Final Fantasy are the reason we buy the consoles in the first place, so we can play absolutely awesome killer games. Decent games get released and kind of 'fill the void' when a really good game isn't out until that awesome game gets out and then we play it. It's not just that a game got an 8.8, it's that a 'Zelda' game got an 8.8 A Zelda game shouldn't get that low, and I personally think 8.8 is somewhat of a merciful score, that game probably deserves 8.4, maybe 8.5 Have you even 'played' Twilight Princess? There are so many things wrong with that game.
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What about Alex Navarro? He's not here anymore right? He was awesome, especially the Big Rigs review lol.
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#37 St_muscat
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Jeff Gerstmann was a great reviewer, why because he always told you actually what he thought about the game, LOZ: Twilight Princess and Kane and Lynch where good example, TP he saw didn't deserve an AAA score, so he gave it 8.8 instead and didn't care about the up roar it created because that's what he really thought it deserved. Same with Kane and Lynch, even though its not wise to bag a game your advertising (which in end you saw what happens when do that) but he did anyway and told the truth, its an average game.

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What about Alex Navarro? He's not here anymore right? He was awesome, especially the Big Rigs review lol.Faber_Fighter
works at harmonix, but sometimes visits giant bomb on their podcasts, as well as greg kasavin.
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#39 mo0ksi
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I mostly only cared for only Kasavin and Ocampo. They were the two best reviewers of the past GS staff.
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In my opinion he was an awful reviewer and full of himself. My favorite reviewer was GregK.
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[QUOTE="true-satanist"][QUOTE="Grinning_Demon"][QUOTE="true-satanist"] 8.8 games suck now? [QUOTE="true-satanist"] CNET only fired him because he was too 'honest' about the games he reviewed. They wanted it 'sugar-coated,' but Jeff only came in 'plain.' Apparently, 'integrity' is out of style.

Wait, but if TP sucked then Jeff the Hut should've given it a 5.0. Therefore your argument is invalid, Jeff has no integrity and he should be friyng chips at Mcdonalds.

For a Zelda game, 8.8 is a bad score. We expect Zelda games to be really good, especially the main title ones released for the console. Games like Zelda and Mario and Final Fantasy are the reason we buy the consoles in the first place, so we can play absolutely awesome killer games. Decent games get released and kind of 'fill the void' when a really good game isn't out until that awesome game gets out and then we play it. It's not just that a game got an 8.8, it's that a 'Zelda' game got an 8.8 A Zelda game shouldn't get that low, and I personally think 8.8 is somewhat of a merciful score, that game probably deserves 8.4, maybe 8.5 Have you even 'played' Twilight Princess? There are so many things wrong with that game.

Yes, i have Twilight Princess, and its far better than 95% of games that kids hype these days. I personaly think its atleast a 9.0 game. Zelda games have insanely high standards. If it didnt have Zelda on the title it would be scoring 9.5/10s across the board.
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Jeff Gerstmann one of the few (and maybe the most) reviewers I respect. Reviewers like he, Greg Kasavin or Dan Hsu were that kind of reviewers that tried to make gaming journalism something respectable. Of course, I disagreed with a lot of their scores, but a good reviewer is not the one that always says what I want to hear.
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#43 _LiquidFlame_
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I think he was a good reviewer. :)

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[QUOTE="Archaic8"]

Jeff was a pretty cool guy. So it was a shame he had to let his Xbox bias get in the way of his profession. If you take a look at Giant Bomb its clear which console they favour.

yoyo462001

How? there reviews are alot better than GS imo, i see no bias in jeffs old reviews at all could someone show me a Ps3 he scored low because this is bias.

Its more to do with the content than the reviews. Look at their video reviews, all multi-plats and 360 exclusives with the odd exceptions. Plus on their podcast its clear all they play is the 360. They have no corporate restraints so they can do whatever they want. The problem is that they have shot themselves in the foot by what they have done. PS3 owners wont give a toss about their site, only 360 owners.

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#45 yoyo462001
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[QUOTE="yoyo462001"][QUOTE="Archaic8"]

Jeff was a pretty cool guy. So it was a shame he had to let his Xbox bias get in the way of his profession. If you take a look at Giant Bomb its clear which console they favour.

Archaic8

How? there reviews are alot better than GS imo, i see no bias in jeffs old reviews at all could someone show me a Ps3 he scored low because this is bias.

Its more to do with the content than the reviews. Look at their video reviews, all multi-plats and 360 exclusives with the odd exceptions. Plus on their podcast its clear all they play is the 360. They have no corporate restraints so they can do whatever they want. The problem is that they have shot themselves in the foot by what they have done. PS3 owners wont give a toss about their site, only 360 owners.

Did you not hear there Game of the year edition podcast where the final games to decide was MGS 4 and GTA, and it was pretty split down with brad and ryan for it. Yeah they do seem to play the 360 more however i dont understand how that shows there bias, a reviewer does not need to play all 3 systems equally to not be considered bias, i understand they may like the 360 more however in their reviews there is very little bias i think.
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#46 Archaic8
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[QUOTE="Archaic8"]

[QUOTE="yoyo462001"]How? there reviews are alot better than GS imo, i see no bias in jeffs old reviews at all could someone show me a Ps3 he scored low because this is bias.yoyo462001

Its more to do with the content than the reviews. Look at their video reviews, all multi-plats and 360 exclusives with the odd exceptions. Plus on their podcast its clear all they play is the 360. They have no corporate restraints so they can do whatever they want. The problem is that they have shot themselves in the foot by what they have done. PS3 owners wont give a toss about their site, only 360 owners.

Did you not hear there Game of the year edition podcast where the final games to decide was MGS 4 and GTA, and it was pretty split down with brad and ryan for it. Yeah they do seem to play the 360 more however i dont understand how that shows there bias, a reviewer does not need to play all 3 systems equally to not be considered bias, i understand they may like the 360 more however in their reviews there is very little bias i think.

Maybe bias is the wrong word but they are definitely geared towards the 360. They did a video review of Banjo Nuts and Bolts and not one for either littlebigplanet or Resistance 2. Come on.

Oh and this has nothing to do with 360 bias, but they spend way too much time talking about Guitar Hero and Rock Band on their podcast. A track pack warrants a 20 minute discussion apparantly.

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[QUOTE="Slambo86"]why do so many care about this jellofatbastard? Jeff was average and people need to stop boosting his ego. Little_B0y_BLUE
He was a major Xbox and GTA fanboy also

no he wasnt, he was unbiased on most of his revies, and his honest opinion got him fired
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#48 heretrix
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why do so many care about this ********? Jeff was average and people need to stop boosting his ego. Slambo86
Was there any need for you to insult the guy?

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#49 heretrix
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Jeff Gerstmann one of the few (and maybe the most) reviewers I respect. Reviewers like he, Greg Kasavin or Dan Hsu were that kind of reviewers that tried to make gaming journalism something respectable. Of course, I disagreed with a lot of their scores, but a good reviewer is not the one that always says what I want to hear.IronBass
Getting fired was the best thing to happen to him. He runs a great site now and their podcast is fun to listen to.

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[QUOTE="IronBass"]Jeff Gerstmann one of the few (and maybe the most) reviewers I respect. Reviewers like he, Greg Kasavin or Dan Hsu were that kind of reviewers that tried to make gaming journalism something respectable. Of course, I disagreed with a lot of their scores, but a good reviewer is not the one that always says what I want to hear.heretrix

Getting fired was the best thing to happen to him. He runs a great site now and their podcast is fun to listen to.

Besides, in the process he became one of the most respected reviewers ever (not that he wasn't respected before). If you ask me, I'm glad to see some people take gaming journalism that seriously, especially in these days that it has became practically a joke.