John Carmack:Ps3 has the least avalible amount of memory.

This isn't breaking news, y'know.

but does it have teh jump button? ;)

Breaking news, Grand Theft Auto 4 was anounced today.

So stop saying ps3 is more powerful than xbox360. Because it's not. ps3 more powerful cpu xbox360 more ram and more powerful gpu. XBOX360 WINS.SCOOBYJDOOBIEDO

WUT? Tr3y has Split RAM??? Does that mean the memory blocks are cut in half?

In other newz: Worst way to play RAGE is from DVD on 360, according to Carmack ;)

So stop saying ps3 is more powerful than xbox360. Because it's not. ps3 more powerful cpu xbox360 more ram and more powerful gpu. XBOX360 WINS.SCOOBYJDOOBIEDO

lol.

The cell makes up for both the weaker gpu and less ram in the ps3. The 2 consoles are EVEN.

xbox360 has two advantage's over ps3 more ram and gpu. ps3 has one advantage cpu. 2>>1 xbox360>ps3SCOOBYJDOOBIEDO

PS3 has 256 main, and 256 video. This has been known since launch.

The difference the RAM and GPU is smaller than the difference between the two CPUs.

You'd be amazed at what you can do on those 7 SPUs. But, there's a difference between theory and practice. Theoretically, the PS3 pushes out the most raw flops (as stated by Carmack in another interview) and you can get a higher graphical fidelty because of this...but it takes a **** load of work to get done.

And that's the line between theory and practice. You can get similar results on the 360 relatively easily cause it ain't a **** to work with.

blu ray honestly isnt advantage xbox360 could have 200 gb digital downloadable games.SCOOBYJDOOBIEDO

So stop saying ps3 is more powerful than xbox360. Because it's not. ps3 more powerful cpu xbox360 more ram and more powerful gpu. XBOX360 WINS.SCOOBYJDOOBIEDO

and why is it that all these 360>ps3 threads being made this past few weeks are all from lvl 1 posters

[QUOTE="SCOOBYJDOOBIEDO"]So stop saying ps3 is more powerful than xbox360. Because it's not. ps3 more powerful cpu xbox360 more ram and more powerful gpu. XBOX360 WINS.Diviniuz

and why is it that all these 360>ps3 threads being made this past few weeks are all from lvl 1 posters

[QUOTE="SCOOBYJDOOBIEDO"]xbox360 has two advantage's over ps3 more ram and gpu. ps3 has one advantage cpu. 2>>1 xbox360>ps3BigBoss154

PS3 has 256 main, and 256 video. This has been known since launch.

The difference the RAM and GPU is smaller than the difference between the two CPUs.

You'd be amazed at what you can do on those 7 SPUs. But, there's a difference between theory and practice. Theoretically, the PS3 pushes out the most raw flops (as stated by Carmack in another interview) and you can get a higher graphical fidelty because of this...but it takes a **** load of work to get done.

And that's the line between theory and practice. You can get similar results on the 360 relatively easily cause it ain't a **** to work with.

FLOPS aren't everything. Ultimately, the two consoles are so close in nearly every respect that it doesn't even matter which one has a greater "theoretical" peak because once you account for all the bottlenecks and other performance considerations, neither console can legitimately accomplish anything that would be impossible on the other console(in one form or another)... It is literally all down to implementation and developer choice...

Both of you are wrong, and this thread is a pointless trolling attempt.

Oh come on guys, quit the arguing whether the 360 or ps3 is more powerful. We all know the Wii outclasses both.ferret-gamer

Dude sersiously!!! Like it has 88mb of total RAM & thats closer to the number 1 so OBVIOUSLY....... :P

[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

[QUOTE="SCOOBYJDOOBIEDO"]xbox360 has two advantage's over ps3 more ram and gpu. ps3 has one advantage cpu. 2>>1 xbox360>ps3KingsMessenger

PS3 has 256 main, and 256 video. This has been known since launch.

The difference the RAM and GPU is smaller than the difference between the two CPUs.

You'd be amazed at what you can do on those 7 SPUs. But, there's a difference between theory and practice. Theoretically, the PS3 pushes out the most raw flops (as stated by Carmack in another interview) and you can get a higher graphical fidelty because of this...but it takes a **** load of work to get done.

And that's the line between theory and practice. You can get similar results on the 360 relatively easily cause it ain't a **** to work with.

FLOPS aren't everything. Ultimately, the two consoles are so close in nearly every respect that it doesn't even matter which one has a greater "theoretical" peak because once you account for all the bottlenecks and other performance considerations, neither console can legitimately accomplish anything that would be impossible on the other console(in one form or another)... It is literally all down to implementation and developer choice...

Both of you are wrong, and this thread is a pointless trolling attempt.

Actually, I'm not wrong because I just copied and pasted what Carmack said in an interview a few years ago.

I never said flops were everything either. This was just one part where he talks about CPUs and the graphics rendering you can do on the SPU's

From all the reports I'm hearing rage 360 looks better than the ps3. At quakecon, I think I heard of the 20 demo machines. 16 were 360s and 4 were PCs.

WUT? Tr3y has Split RAM??? Does that mean the memory blocks are cut in half?

In other newz: Worst way to play RAGE is from DVD on 360, according to Carmack ;)

Filthybastrd

don't feed the troll

[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

WUT? Tr3y has Split RAM??? Does that mean the memory blocks are cut in half?

In other newz: Worst way to play RAGE is from DVD on 360, according to Carmack ;)

SaltyMeatballs

mandatory partial install. Sony doesn't let them install the whole game. Also, I don't know if the preview builds were installed or not... Preview builds don't necessarily behave the same way that retail builds do.

[QUOTE="gpuking"][QUOTE="Diviniuz"] just to show you how flawed that argument is by example John has 3 apples, Jim has 2 John > Jim John has 3 oranges, Jim has 2 John >Jim John has 2 pineapples, Jim has 6 Jim> John Who has more fruit? Another example would be averages on tests John did better on two tests than Jim, but Jim beat John on the 3rd test. Who has the better average in the class?SCOOBYJDOOBIEDO

That is completely ignore the fact that the RAM in the PS3 is faster than the RAM in the Xbox 360.... And the only difference in "amount of RAM" comes from the OS, which accounts for like 15MB difference between the two consoles. They are equal. The PS3 is just a bigger pain to optimize for.

[QUOTE="gpuking"][QUOTE="Diviniuz"] just to show you how flawed that argument is by example John has 3 apples, Jim has 2 John > Jim John has 3 oranges, Jim has 2 John >Jim John has 2 pineapples, Jim has 6 Jim> John Who has more fruit? Another example would be averages on tests John did better on two tests than Jim, but Jim beat John on the 3rd test. Who has the better average in the class?SCOOBYJDOOBIEDO

you have also assumed that the amount of ram is the sole determinant of RAM A > RAM B. If I had 1 gb of DDR2 and 1 gb of DDR4, which ram should I use? By what you have been saying you are suggesting all ram is the same and that memory is the sole factor.

I still dont see why LVL1 posters are allowed to make threads,

This is the flamebait BS we get

And the alt-account has awaken from his slumber. Anyway this is old news.

[QUOTE="SCOOBYJDOOBIEDO"][QUOTE="gpuking"] Well done, you have swiftly schooled that noob. Diviniuz

you have also assumed that the amount of ram is the sole determinant of RAM A > RAM B. If I had 1 gb of DDR2 and 1 gb of DDR4, which ram should I use? By what you have been saying you are suggesting all ram is the same and that memory is the sole factor.

[QUOTE="gpuking"][QUOTE="SCOOBYJDOOBIEDO"]gamecube=48 mb total ram ps2=36 mb total ram xbox=64 mb total ram multiplat's superior on xbox? BECAUSE OF MORE RAM SCOOBYJDOOBIEDO

Well damn.

May as well have put 16 gigs of ram in current consoles, and just use pentium 3's and a voodo graphics chip for the Cpu and Gpu right?

Why did no one think of this before?!